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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Part three of our exclusive sit down with James Comer
about the financial crimes that have been committed by the
Biden crime family. And this part, Part three is really
interesting because we get into where the money was coming
from and the questions that the president may be forced
to answer. Finally, here is that Part three, and don't
(00:21):
forget if you miss part one or part two. Makes
you go back and listen to that and share this
on social media wherever you are.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So let me ask you something. When Usupoene and Hunter,
he came back and said he was willing to testify,
but only only in an open hearing, not in a
closed door deposition. Tell us from your perspective, what the
advantages are of doing a closed door deposition first before
open public testimony.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We have tens of thousands of pages of documents, bank statements, emails,
sworn testimony. We have hundreds and hundreds of questions. You know,
probably close to a thousand questions. In a deposition, you
have one hour. The Republicans have an hour, than the
Democrats have an hour. Then you come back and have
another hour. The Democrats have another hour. So you know,
(01:07):
easily you can get an eight hour deposition in in
a day, whereas we would have four hours, the staff
would generally be the ones that would which I have.
You know, my lead deposer was the lead deposer at
the Department of Justice in the in the Trump administration
under Bill bark So we've got the you know, really
good people that are really good at this, and Judiciary
(01:29):
does too.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Jim has good people there. They were both going to
be in there.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We were going to ask them specific questions, hundreds of questions.
If you have a committee hearing where you have twenty
five Republicans and twenty one Democrats going back and forth, yelling.
The Democrats at the last year and they filed three
motions to adjourn during the committee here in trying to
disrupt it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You get five minutes each back and forth.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
We might get forty forty five questions in So it's
a difference of forty or forty five have questions in
a complete chaotic pop scene versus a sit down, substantive
deposition where we could easily ask eight hundred questions.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
This is too important.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This is an investigation of public corruption at the highest levels.
This has been a substantive, credible investigation that we've accumulated
mountains of evidence through bank records and emails. We have
lots of questions. You just can't get that into a
public hearing. But I want to have a public hearing
with Hunter Biden, and we will have a hearing with
Hunter Biden after he gets deposed.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
For what it's worth, James, and this is something that
I've talked about on Verdict recently. Look, you're in the
middle of the fight. You're working your tail off with
a lot of complicated stuff. I understand everything you said there,
and I agree there's a lot of force to the
argument you're putting forward to the extent I can share
some unsolicited advice, which I did in our last podcast,
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and you know I'm a lawyer and a senator, so
I'm in the business to give it unsolicited advice. But
I would encourage y'all to go ahead and have him
in a public hearing anyway. And I understand why it
would be better to depose him, but from their perspective,
they can litigate and fight this contempt for the rest
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of the year and run out the clock, and that's
what they want to do. And I know you know
this very directly, but just I want to remind our listeners.
This is ultimately about Joe Biden, not about Hunter Biden.
And although the questions won't be as detailed, there won't
be as much time in a public hearing getting Hunter publicly.
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He claims he will do it, and I would also
encourage and I don't know the House rules the mechanics
for doing this, but to the extent you can, I
would encourage you if you do a public hearing with
Hunter instead of doing five minute rounds, do ten minute
Roundsate in the Senate and the Judiciary Committee, we often
do seven minute rounds or ten minute rounds. For a
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Supreme Court nominee, we do thirty minute rounds. The difference
is as examiner, of what you can get in a
ten minute round versus a five minute round is night
and day, and so so I would just I think
the value if we could get Hunter to testify in January,
and if your team could work with your down DIAS
(04:20):
members to have all, right, here are all the questions
we need to get. Can you take this module? You
take this module? So you know, sometimes you and I
both know their hearings where you have members, they all
do their own thing, and they're all running around like
crazy for something like this, to the extent the down
Dias Republicans each can take a particular issue and say,
all right, I'm going to take my five or even
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better ten minutes and ask the questions. Would it be
as good as a deposition? No, but I think the
value of doing that publicly if Hunter would answer those questions,
the legal jeopardy for Joe would be massive from that,
and I think that outweighs the strategic benefit of waiting
(05:03):
for the closed door deposition. So consider that I don't
need an answer from you now, but that you know, look,
I've litigated a lot of cases, and that would be
my pretty emphatic advice is that don't let the perfect
be the enemy of the good, because getting Hunter on
the record in public on all the questions that we've
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been talking about, that is enormously valuable. And I don't
want to see the clock run out, particularly if look,
you and I are both hoping there's a good election
in November, but it could be a bad election. And
if in November the speaker is a Keem Jeffries, your
committee's going away and they're in the deposition, they're into
public hearing, and it's all over, so we can hope
(05:48):
we have a good election. But I think it's it's
wise to assume that your clock may be at most
eleven months.
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want to play Hunter Biden. Yeah, and I want to
play what he said because I don't know, if you know,
a lot of people thought the White House is probably
give me advice. I think there seems to be a
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little bit of a riff now between the White House.
We're seeing some weeks coming out. They didn't like what
Hunter Biden did at this press conference, and that means
he's kind of a rogue actor in this scenario. Right now,
I want to get your reaction to just as demeanor
and what he said.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Take a look.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Let me state as clearly as I can, my father
was not financially involved in my business, not as a
practicing lawyer, not as a board member of Barisma, not
in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman, not in
my investments at home, nor abroad, and certainly not as
an artist. During my battle with addiction, my parents were
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there for me. They literally saved my life. They helped
me in ways that I will never be able to repay,
and of course they would never expect me to. And
in the depths of my addiction, I was extremely irresponsible
with my finances, but to suggest that as grounds for
an impeacement inquiry is beyond the absurd.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
It's shameless.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
There is no evidence to support the allegations that my
father was financially involved in my business because it did
not happen. James Comer, Jim Jordan, Jason Smith, and their
colleagues have distorted the facts by cherry picking lines from
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a bank statement, manipulating texts I sent, editing the testimony
of my friends and former business partners, and misstating personal
information that was stolen from me.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He accuses you of manipulating text messages without any evidence
and says that you guys are cherry picking lines.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I gotta get your response to that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I've never seen such a display of arrogance and entitlement
in my life, but I'm not surprised because look, he's
gotten away with this for years.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Because he's a Biden. The rules don't apply to the Bidens.
But I don't know how you manipulate a text.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Was his father beside him when he was extorting that
Chinese national or not?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's a simple question. The media should have asked the
in and there.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And they stopped the GPS, right, they stopped the GPS.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
You and I have talked about this here. We could
have answered that.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Question, okay, And it's important. Look, this is there's a
reason people hate lawyers. I listened to that as a lawyer.
When they say manipulating a text, what they mean is
one of the copies that was released of the WhatsApp
text from one of the House members, they put a
Chinese flag next to the Chinese person speaking to identify them,
(10:21):
So like, aha, you manipulated it, because in the real
one there's not a Chinese flag, so it's true. For
purposes of display, they added a Chinese flag to demonstrate
that that was a Chinese person. When they say manipulated,
what they don't mean. What Hunter has never said, what
his lawyers have never said, is that one word of
that text is inaccurate. What they have never said is
(10:43):
I did not send that and we talked about on Verdict.
One possible defense he could have is Nope, that text
is fake. I never sent it. Now that's a defense
you can make, but then you've got to prove it.
The fact that they haven't said that much like like
Sherlock Holmes and the dog that didn't bark, The fact
that they didn't say that tells you that they are
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implicitly admitting it is accurate. We also know that DOJ
prevented any search of GPS data would be very easy
to determine where was Hunter's cell phone at the moment
that text was being sent, Where was Joe's cell phone?
Were they in the same room where they sitting next
to each other. The Biden Department of Justice does not
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want anyone to know the answer to that, and so
they blocked that. But by the way, that text is
direct evidence. So and next time you hear a Democrat
or their shills in the media saying there's no direct
evidence of Joe Biden's involvement, understand that WhatsApp text is
direct evidence. It's not circumstantial. It is written testimony from
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Hunter about Joe's involvement in the shakedown. And I got
to say by the way Ben I noticed something, So James.
In our last podcast, we held the New York Times
to task because they took Hunter Biden's quote at the
press conference that my father was not financially involved with
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my business and they misquoted it to say my father
was not involved in my business. They deleted the word
financially and that was I believe, a very deliberate deletion.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, what's interesting, I just discovered something again. Let me
ask the team put up the very last shot from
the Hunter Biden video that we were watching, if we
can put it on the screen now. If you notice
CN end did the same damn thing. Yeah, look at
the chiron in the bottom. Hunter Biden, my father was
not involved in any of my businesses. What he said
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was my father was not financially involved in any of
my businesses. CNN and New York Times both deleted the
same word. By the way, they know how to quote
what he said. Often a chiron will be Hunter Biden
quote quote my father was not financially involved in any
of my businesses. But understand, CNN is on team Biden,
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they're on team Hunter, they're on team Joe. And it
reminds me of the famous CNN chirron of the reporter
saying fiery but peaceful protest as a building is on
fire with a Black Lives Matter an ANTIFA protest going on,
CNN is happily editing out Hunter's comments to benefit the
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White House.
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you one other question about this that I think is
also very important, and that is to remind people financially. Now,
how many countries was the Biden crime family getting money from.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
We haven't even mentioned in the last hour. Romania. That's
a country that has to be brought up.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But you guys are finding more money in more places
with more people, and even Hunter Biden there in what
he said, he said with my foreign business dealings plural,
he was admitting, Yeah, I'm getting money from everywhere in
the world.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, we know I got money from China, Romania, Ukraine, Russia, Uzbekistan.
We know that he was paid through China for stuff
he did in the Congo. We know that Jim Biden
operated primarily in the Middle East, so pretty much every
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bad country in the world is where the Bidens would
target their influence peddling schemes.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Do you expect to get anything new about James Biden's money.
I mean, we obviously know a lot about Hunters, but
are you guys finding more and more of James, Because
before Hunter Biden was of age, James was the bat,
was the bag man, and then it kind of turned into, oh, hey,
we've got a kid here that we can get to
be the bag man, and we have an excuse for
his actions that he's a drug addict, which is exactly
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what Hunter Biden said in that video. I was in
the depths of addiction. You should feel sorry for me.
I had just seen the money from anybody. James Biden
seems to be smarter and have done this for decades,
while Hunter's kind of the pupil under him.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, we have a lot of questions for for James Biden. Again,
the reason no one knows much about him is he
didn't leave a laptop lying around, but having looked at
his bank records from his LLC and from his personal
bank records. I have a lot of questions for James Biden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He's then appear that that James, Joe's brother, was as
involved in this family business as Hunter was, or would
you say they're they're equally complicit.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I wouldn't say he's as involved.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But a lot of transactions in and out of James
Biden's LLC were with the Biden shell companies, and then
obviously the two hundred and forty thousand dollars that came
from Hunter's shell companies went through James Biden's personal account
and had him write the money to Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I think at the end of the day, when.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Joe Biden was saying, oh, there's not a shred of evidence,
not shred of evidence, they thought that we would try
to get their taxes. And I never wanted their taxes.
I wanted their bank records. I've looked at enough tax returns.
As the director of a bank, you want to look
at the bank statements. Bank statements don't lie, and you
would have never seen that money to Joe.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You would never.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
See any of these these millions of dollars they're labeling
as loans.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
If you had just subpoena the tax records. You had
to get the bank.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And to be clear, the two hundred thousand dollars payment
that went from from Jim to Joe that they claim
was a loan repayment, there is zero evidence, or to
use Joe's phrase, not a scentilla of evidence, that that
was actually a loan that had ever gone from Joe
to Jim in the first place. In other words, there
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has to be a loan in order for a loan
to be repaid. Is there any evidence at all that
that loan existed.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
No, it's not hard to prove alone. If you paid
me back one hundred thousand dollars, then I should have
a check to you for one hundred thousand dollars at
some point before you paid me back one hundred thous dollars.
That's pretty simple, and I think every American, even the
financially illiterate ones, understand that.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
All Right, two more questions I want to get to,
what do you make of the fact that the countries
that are doing business with Hunter and Jim Biden are
all countries that are shady, that have corrupt oligarchs that
are to various degrees enemies of America that they don't
They don't do business with any of our close allies.
You don't see them doing business with England. You don't
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see them doing business with France or Germany. You don't
see them doing business with Japan. You don't see them
doing business with Canada. I mean, there are lots of
countries where people can do business with them, where it's
not necessarily shady. You go out of your way to
find places like Russia and China. That says something. What
do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think that was their business model. We know they
sold the Biden brand, but where did you sell the
Biden brand? You sold the Biden brand in shady countries.
You revolved the business model around people who were in trouble. Barisma,
the Romanian foreign national, the Russian oligarch.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
China was always.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
In trouble because no one wants them in the United States.
We don't want China buying farmland. We don't want China
buying our energy companies. But they use the Bidens to
try to get their foot in the door everywhere they operated.
We're in countries where we have problems with bad people
from bad countries.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
All right, Last question something Hunter mentions at the end
of that press conference that's kind of gratuitously tossed on there.
He says, Dad wasn't involved in Bearisma and my legal
practice such as it was, and my businesses, and then
he says or with me as an artist, and it
kind of pops out of nowhere there. What do you
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make of that and what is your take on quote
Hunter as an artist?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well, Hunter was never an artist until Joe became president.
And it looks like their business model changed. From twenty
fourteen to twenty eighteen. They were taking wires directly through
those show companies. Then the ir ashrals in on them.
Then they start trying to say this money they were
taken in from influence pending, we're loans. Then once Joe
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become president, they stopped all of that and Hunter started
selling art. So I believe the influence pedling may still
be going on. It's going on through the art sales.
We need to know who's purchasing this artwork.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
That's why do we know that.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Do we know who's purchasing the artwork and how much
they're paying.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
We think we know of two people and they're part
of the people we're trying to bring in to ask
questions or to the post. So that's something every American
should want to know.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Who's behind this artwork.
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to us, let's change the way that we're operating our business.
We found out, for example, that the first American hostage
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that was released from Hamas was had a family member
who had bought artwork from Hunter Biden is another example
of still now this is going on in real time.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So do we have evidence, do we know how many
paintings Hunter has sold to whom and for how much?
Those are basic questions. Since Joe became president, do we
know whether he sold one painting, fifty paintings, or one
hundred paintings.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We know he sold several. They bragged about it. The
art director, George Burgess, he's one.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Of the people we expected to pose. Hopefully in January,
we'll ask those questions.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And has any of Hunter Biden's art ever hung in
any government buildings or the White House? That would, in theory,
raise the price of that artwork, the value of that artwork,
because we know that artwork where it hangs can increase
us to value significantly.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't know that that'll be a great question. We
can ask George purchase.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But the point you made that there's no evidence Hunter
was an artist until daddy became president is rather amazing.
Every artist I've ever known, they've been an artist their
whole life. They've been painting. Usually people have been painting
since they were kids. If you want to be a
commercial artist, most people don't start off saying I'm gonna
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paint something and sell it for half million dollars. Is
the Biden family blocking your committee getting the information on
how many paintings have been sold to whom and for
how much?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, somebody's blocking it again, that's the question.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
We're going to ask the art gallery owner.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
And we're going to ask Kevin Morris, who's the Hollywood
attorney and we believe he has a lot of inside
knowledge over this artwork and who's purchasing the artwork.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
This would be the Hollywood attorney that paid off Hunter's
back taxes.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, the media reports that he's paid hundred two and
a half million dollars, but it's five million dollars. It's
five million dollars from this Hollywood attorney he never met
until Joe was the nominee to be president.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
He never met the guy.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Never met the guy we had the picture when the
first time they met.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
It was at a political fundraiser.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So this guy didn't grow up with, wasn't friends with
like Devon arger Boba, Linzcury, these.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Guys, and he met this guy.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Now this guy has loaned him five million dollars.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
At least don't have to put that on your taxes.
I guess that's the purpose.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I tell you this. This is James, thank you. This
has been very helpful and I want us to close.
We've heard mountains and mountains of evidence of corruption, mountains
of evidence of corruption of Hunter Biden, mountains of evidence
of corruption of Jim Biden, mountains of evidence of corruption
of Joe Biden. I want us to close with Kareeine
(25:55):
John Pierre claiming there is no evidence. So just give
a listen to what the White House House is saying,
and then we're going to look at the newspaper headlines
that have followed.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
What we're seeing from House Republican is wasted time and
it is certainly, you know, baseless political stunt. That's what
we're seeing. And they're leaving. House Republicans are leaving this
week to go, you know, enjoy a nice holiday, right
as most Americans should. But what happened to the funding
to Ukraine? Just asked me about Ukraine. They haven't been
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able to get that done. They haven't been able to
fix help let's fix what's going on at the border.
They haven't been able to get that done. They haven't
been able to start a conversation on how we're going
to avert a shutdown in January. They haven't been able
to do that. And so look, you know, there's been
zero evidence, zero evidence. You can ask me about engagement
and what the president has done with his family and conversation,
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but there's no evidence. There's wait, wait, but there's no evidence.
There is no evidence that the president has done wrongdoing.
There's none, absolutely none, none, And that is just a fact.
You've heard it from Republicans themselves. So they're wasting their
time instead of doing the work on behalf of the
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American people, they go after the president's family. But that's a.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Waste of time.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Every time she says no evidence, no evidence, no evidence,
it's a lie. But here take a look at how
Reuter's reported the House vote on impeachment Biden impeachment inquiry
authorized by House Republicans COMMA despite lack of evidence. Mind you,
this is news. Next headline, New York Times. House approves
Biden impeachment inquiry as GOP hunts foreign offense. Republicans are
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pushing forward with a former investigation even though their year
long scrutiny of the president and his family has turned
up no evidence of high crimes or misdemeanors. That is
complete bs by the way. Washington Post next headline, Washington
Post still lacking evidence. House GOP votes to formalize biden
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impeachment inquiry. Lawmakers have said the step will put them
on a stronger legal footing for any court challenges related
to their investigations. Understand Reuters, The New York Times, The
Washington Post, and Karine Jean Pierre on behalf of the
president are lying, and James, thank you for joining us,
because you have laid out an enormous amount of evidence
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that apparently you don't exist. The House doesn't exist, the
investigation doesn't exist, the bank records don't exist, the WhatsApp
doesn't exist, Barisma doesn't exist. Twenty four million dollars doesn't exist.
Two hundred and forty thousand dollars to Joe Biden doesn't exist.
None of that exists because we're told there's no evidence.
These are lying shills, but the truth will out. Thank
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you for all you're doing, and James, have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Congressman again, thank you so much for joining us. Senator.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
This is such an important conversation, obviously, and I will
say to everyone that's listening or if you're watching, if
you miss part one or part two of this three
part series, would you, James Comer, make sure you go
back and listen, but also make sure that you help
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And when you share it on social media you bring
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hear the facts of what the mainstream media is not covering.
I'll say it again, thank you to James Comer and
Jim Jordan for all their hard work and we hope
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you enjoyed everything that we talked about the Senator and
I will see you back here in a couple of days.
Part three of our exclusive sit down with James Comer
about the financial crimes that have been committed by the
Biden crime family. And this part, Part three is really
interesting because we get into where the money was coming
from and the questions that the president may be forced
to answer. Finally, here is that Part three, and don't
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forget if you miss part one or part two. Makes
you go back and listen to that and share this
on social media wherever you are.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So let me ask you something. When Usupoene and Hunter,
he came back and said he was willing to testify,
but only only in an open hearing, not in a
closed door deposition. Tell us from your perspective, what the
advantages are of doing a closed door deposition first before
open public testimony.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We have tens of thousands of pages of documents, bank statements, emails,
sworn testimony. We have hundreds and hundreds of questions. You know,
probably close to a thousand questions. In a deposition, you
have one hour. The Republicans have an hour, than the
Democrats have an hour. Then you come back and have
another hour. The Democrats have another hour. So you know,
(01:07):
easily you can get an eight hour deposition in in
a day, whereas we would have four hours, the staff
would generally be the ones that would which I have.
You know, my lead deposer was the lead deposer at
the Department of Justice in the in the Trump administration
under Bill bark So we've got the you know, really
good people that are really good at this, and Judiciary
(01:29):
does too.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Jim has good people there. They were both going to
be in there.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We were going to ask them specific questions, hundreds of questions.
If you have a committee hearing where you have twenty
five Republicans and twenty one Democrats going back and forth, yelling.
The Democrats at the last year and they filed three
motions to adjourn during the committee here in trying to
disrupt it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You get five minutes each back and forth.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
We might get forty forty five questions in So it's
a difference of forty or forty five have questions in
a complete chaotic pop scene versus a sit down, substantive
deposition where we could easily ask eight hundred questions.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
This is too important.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This is an investigation of public corruption at the highest levels.
This has been a substantive, credible investigation that we've accumulated
mountains of evidence through bank records and emails. We have
lots of questions. You just can't get that into a
public hearing. But I want to have a public hearing
with Hunter Biden, and we will have a hearing with
Hunter Biden after he gets deposed.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
For what it's worth, James, and this is something that
I've talked about on Verdict recently. Look, you're in the
middle of the fight. You're working your tail off with
a lot of complicated stuff. I understand everything you said there,
and I agree there's a lot of force to the
argument you're putting forward to the extent I can share
some unsolicited advice, which I did in our last podcast,
(02:53):
and you know I'm a lawyer and a senator, so
I'm in the business to give it unsolicited advice. But
I would encourage y'all to go ahead and have him
in a public hearing anyway. And I understand why it
would be better to depose him, but from their perspective,
they can litigate and fight this contempt for the rest
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of the year and run out the clock, and that's
what they want to do. And I know you know
this very directly, but just I want to remind our listeners.
This is ultimately about Joe Biden, not about Hunter Biden.
And although the questions won't be as detailed, there won't
be as much time in a public hearing getting Hunter publicly.
(03:34):
He claims he will do it, and I would also
encourage and I don't know the House rules the mechanics
for doing this, but to the extent you can, I
would encourage you if you do a public hearing with
Hunter instead of doing five minute rounds, do ten minute
Roundsate in the Senate and the Judiciary Committee, we often
do seven minute rounds or ten minute rounds. For a
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Supreme Court nominee, we do thirty minute rounds. The difference
is as examiner, of what you can get in a
ten minute round versus a five minute round is night
and day, and so so I would just I think
the value if we could get Hunter to testify in January,
and if your team could work with your down DIAS
(04:20):
members to have all, right, here are all the questions
we need to get. Can you take this module? You
take this module? So you know, sometimes you and I
both know their hearings where you have members, they all
do their own thing, and they're all running around like
crazy for something like this, to the extent the down
Dias Republicans each can take a particular issue and say,
all right, I'm going to take my five or even
(04:42):
better ten minutes and ask the questions. Would it be
as good as a deposition? No, but I think the
value of doing that publicly if Hunter would answer those questions,
the legal jeopardy for Joe would be massive from that,
and I think that outweighs the strategic benefit of waiting
(05:03):
for the closed door deposition. So consider that I don't
need an answer from you now, but that you know, look,
I've litigated a lot of cases, and that would be
my pretty emphatic advice is that don't let the perfect
be the enemy of the good, because getting Hunter on
the record in public on all the questions that we've
(05:23):
been talking about, that is enormously valuable. And I don't
want to see the clock run out, particularly if look,
you and I are both hoping there's a good election
in November, but it could be a bad election. And
if in November the speaker is a Keem Jeffries, your
committee's going away and they're in the deposition, they're into
public hearing, and it's all over, so we can hope
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we have a good election. But I think it's it's
wise to assume that your clock may be at most
eleven months.
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want to play Hunter Biden. Yeah, and I want to
play what he said because I don't know, if you know,
a lot of people thought the White House is probably
give me advice. I think there seems to be a
(07:40):
little bit of a riff now between the White House.
We're seeing some weeks coming out. They didn't like what
Hunter Biden did at this press conference, and that means
he's kind of a rogue actor in this scenario. Right now,
I want to get your reaction to just as demeanor
and what he said.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Take a look.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Let me state as clearly as I can, my father
was not financially involved in my business, not as a
practicing lawyer, not as a board member of Barisma, not
in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman, not in
my investments at home, nor abroad, and certainly not as
an artist. During my battle with addiction, my parents were
(08:19):
there for me. They literally saved my life. They helped
me in ways that I will never be able to repay,
and of course they would never expect me to. And
in the depths of my addiction, I was extremely irresponsible
with my finances, but to suggest that as grounds for
an impeacement inquiry is beyond the absurd.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
It's shameless.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
There is no evidence to support the allegations that my
father was financially involved in my business because it did
not happen. James Comer, Jim Jordan, Jason Smith, and their
colleagues have distorted the facts by cherry picking lines from
(09:07):
a bank statement, manipulating texts I sent, editing the testimony
of my friends and former business partners, and misstating personal
information that was stolen from me.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He accuses you of manipulating text messages without any evidence
and says that you guys are cherry picking lines.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I gotta get your response to that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I've never seen such a display of arrogance and entitlement
in my life, but I'm not surprised because look, he's
gotten away with this for years.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Because he's a Biden. The rules don't apply to the Bidens.
But I don't know how you manipulate a text.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Was his father beside him when he was extorting that
Chinese national or not?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's a simple question. The media should have asked the
in and there.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And they stopped the GPS, right, they stopped the GPS.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
You and I have talked about this here. We could
have answered that.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Question, okay, And it's important. Look, this is there's a
reason people hate lawyers. I listened to that as a lawyer.
When they say manipulating a text, what they mean is
one of the copies that was released of the WhatsApp
text from one of the House members, they put a
Chinese flag next to the Chinese person speaking to identify them,
(10:21):
So like, aha, you manipulated it, because in the real
one there's not a Chinese flag, so it's true. For
purposes of display, they added a Chinese flag to demonstrate
that that was a Chinese person. When they say manipulated,
what they don't mean. What Hunter has never said, what
his lawyers have never said, is that one word of
that text is inaccurate. What they have never said is
(10:43):
I did not send that and we talked about on Verdict.
One possible defense he could have is Nope, that text
is fake. I never sent it. Now that's a defense
you can make, but then you've got to prove it.
The fact that they haven't said that much like like
Sherlock Holmes and the dog that didn't bark, The fact
that they didn't say that tells you that they are
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implicitly admitting it is accurate. We also know that DOJ
prevented any search of GPS data would be very easy
to determine where was Hunter's cell phone at the moment
that text was being sent, Where was Joe's cell phone?
Were they in the same room where they sitting next
to each other. The Biden Department of Justice does not
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want anyone to know the answer to that, and so
they blocked that. But by the way, that text is
direct evidence. So and next time you hear a Democrat
or their shills in the media saying there's no direct
evidence of Joe Biden's involvement, understand that WhatsApp text is
direct evidence. It's not circumstantial. It is written testimony from
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Hunter about Joe's involvement in the shakedown. And I got
to say by the way Ben I noticed something, So James.
In our last podcast, we held the New York Times
to task because they took Hunter Biden's quote at the
press conference that my father was not financially involved with
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my business and they misquoted it to say my father
was not involved in my business. They deleted the word
financially and that was I believe, a very deliberate deletion.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, what's interesting, I just discovered something again. Let me
ask the team put up the very last shot from
the Hunter Biden video that we were watching, if we
can put it on the screen now. If you notice
CN end did the same damn thing. Yeah, look at
the chiron in the bottom. Hunter Biden, my father was
not involved in any of my businesses. What he said
(12:45):
was my father was not financially involved in any of
my businesses. CNN and New York Times both deleted the
same word. By the way, they know how to quote
what he said. Often a chiron will be Hunter Biden
quote quote my father was not financially involved in any
of my businesses. But understand, CNN is on team Biden,
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they're on team Hunter, they're on team Joe. And it
reminds me of the famous CNN chirron of the reporter
saying fiery but peaceful protest as a building is on
fire with a Black Lives Matter an ANTIFA protest going on,
CNN is happily editing out Hunter's comments to benefit the
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White House.
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you one other question about this that I think is
also very important, and that is to remind people financially. Now,
how many countries was the Biden crime family getting money from.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
We haven't even mentioned in the last hour. Romania. That's
a country that has to be brought up.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But you guys are finding more money in more places
with more people, and even Hunter Biden there in what
he said, he said with my foreign business dealings plural,
he was admitting, Yeah, I'm getting money from everywhere in
the world.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, we know I got money from China, Romania, Ukraine, Russia, Uzbekistan.
We know that he was paid through China for stuff
he did in the Congo. We know that Jim Biden
operated primarily in the Middle East, so pretty much every
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bad country in the world is where the Bidens would
target their influence peddling schemes.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Do you expect to get anything new about James Biden's money.
I mean, we obviously know a lot about Hunters, but
are you guys finding more and more of James, Because
before Hunter Biden was of age, James was the bat,
was the bag man, and then it kind of turned into, oh, hey,
we've got a kid here that we can get to
be the bag man, and we have an excuse for
his actions that he's a drug addict, which is exactly
(16:19):
what Hunter Biden said in that video. I was in
the depths of addiction. You should feel sorry for me.
I had just seen the money from anybody. James Biden
seems to be smarter and have done this for decades,
while Hunter's kind of the pupil under him.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, we have a lot of questions for for James Biden. Again,
the reason no one knows much about him is he
didn't leave a laptop lying around, but having looked at
his bank records from his LLC and from his personal
bank records. I have a lot of questions for James Biden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He's then appear that that James, Joe's brother, was as
involved in this family business as Hunter was, or would
you say they're they're equally complicit.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I wouldn't say he's as involved.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But a lot of transactions in and out of James
Biden's LLC were with the Biden shell companies, and then
obviously the two hundred and forty thousand dollars that came
from Hunter's shell companies went through James Biden's personal account
and had him write the money to Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I think at the end of the day, when.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Joe Biden was saying, oh, there's not a shred of evidence,
not shred of evidence, they thought that we would try
to get their taxes. And I never wanted their taxes.
I wanted their bank records. I've looked at enough tax returns.
As the director of a bank, you want to look
at the bank statements. Bank statements don't lie, and you
would have never seen that money to Joe.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You would never.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
See any of these these millions of dollars they're labeling
as loans.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
If you had just subpoena the tax records. You had
to get the bank.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And to be clear, the two hundred thousand dollars payment
that went from from Jim to Joe that they claim
was a loan repayment, there is zero evidence, or to
use Joe's phrase, not a scentilla of evidence, that that
was actually a loan that had ever gone from Joe
to Jim in the first place. In other words, there
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has to be a loan in order for a loan
to be repaid. Is there any evidence at all that
that loan existed.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
No, it's not hard to prove alone. If you paid
me back one hundred thousand dollars, then I should have
a check to you for one hundred thousand dollars at
some point before you paid me back one hundred thous dollars.
That's pretty simple, and I think every American, even the
financially illiterate ones, understand that.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
All Right, two more questions I want to get to,
what do you make of the fact that the countries
that are doing business with Hunter and Jim Biden are
all countries that are shady, that have corrupt oligarchs that
are to various degrees enemies of America that they don't
They don't do business with any of our close allies.
You don't see them doing business with England. You don't
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see them doing business with France or Germany. You don't
see them doing business with Japan. You don't see them
doing business with Canada. I mean, there are lots of
countries where people can do business with them, where it's
not necessarily shady. You go out of your way to
find places like Russia and China. That says something. What
do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think that was their business model. We know they
sold the Biden brand, but where did you sell the
Biden brand? You sold the Biden brand in shady countries.
You revolved the business model around people who were in trouble. Barisma,
the Romanian foreign national, the Russian oligarch.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
China was always.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
In trouble because no one wants them in the United States.
We don't want China buying farmland. We don't want China
buying our energy companies. But they use the Bidens to
try to get their foot in the door everywhere they operated.
We're in countries where we have problems with bad people
from bad countries.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
All right, Last question something Hunter mentions at the end
of that press conference that's kind of gratuitously tossed on there.
He says, Dad wasn't involved in Bearisma and my legal
practice such as it was, and my businesses, and then
he says or with me as an artist, and it
kind of pops out of nowhere there. What do you
(20:29):
make of that and what is your take on quote
Hunter as an artist?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well, Hunter was never an artist until Joe became president.
And it looks like their business model changed. From twenty
fourteen to twenty eighteen. They were taking wires directly through
those show companies. Then the ir ashrals in on them.
Then they start trying to say this money they were
taken in from influence pending, we're loans. Then once Joe
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become president, they stopped all of that and Hunter started
selling art. So I believe the influence pedling may still
be going on. It's going on through the art sales.
We need to know who's purchasing this artwork.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
That's why do we know that.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Do we know who's purchasing the artwork and how much
they're paying.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
We think we know of two people and they're part
of the people we're trying to bring in to ask
questions or to the post. So that's something every American
should want to know.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Who's behind this artwork.
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to believe that the Biden said okay, they're onto us,
let's shut it down. They just said, okay, they're on
to us, let's change the way that we're operating our business.
We found out, for example, that the first American hostage
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that was released from Hamas was had a family member
who had bought artwork from Hunter Biden is another example
of still now this is going on in real time.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So do we have evidence, do we know how many
paintings Hunter has sold to whom and for how much?
Those are basic questions. Since Joe became president, do we
know whether he sold one painting, fifty paintings, or one
hundred paintings.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We know he sold several. They bragged about it. The
art director, George Burgess, he's one.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Of the people we expected to pose. Hopefully in January,
we'll ask those questions.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And has any of Hunter Biden's art ever hung in
any government buildings or the White House? That would, in theory,
raise the price of that artwork, the value of that artwork,
because we know that artwork where it hangs can increase
us to value significantly.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't know that that'll be a great question. We
can ask George purchase.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But the point you made that there's no evidence Hunter
was an artist until daddy became president is rather amazing.
Every artist I've ever known, they've been an artist their
whole life. They've been painting. Usually people have been painting
since they were kids. If you want to be a
commercial artist, most people don't start off saying I'm gonna
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paint something and sell it for half million dollars. Is
the Biden family blocking your committee getting the information on
how many paintings have been sold to whom and for
how much?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, somebody's blocking it again, that's the question.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
We're going to ask the art gallery owner.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
And we're going to ask Kevin Morris, who's the Hollywood
attorney and we believe he has a lot of inside
knowledge over this artwork and who's purchasing the artwork.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
This would be the Hollywood attorney that paid off Hunter's
back taxes.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, the media reports that he's paid hundred two and
a half million dollars, but it's five million dollars. It's
five million dollars from this Hollywood attorney he never met
until Joe was the nominee to be president.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
He never met the guy.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Never met the guy we had the picture when the
first time they met.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
It was at a political fundraiser.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So this guy didn't grow up with, wasn't friends with
like Devon arger Boba, Linzcury, these.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Guys, and he met this guy.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Now this guy has loaned him five million dollars.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
At least don't have to put that on your taxes.
I guess that's the purpose.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I tell you this. This is James, thank you. This
has been very helpful and I want us to close.
We've heard mountains and mountains of evidence of corruption, mountains
of evidence of corruption of Hunter Biden, mountains of evidence
of corruption of Jim Biden, mountains of evidence of corruption
of Joe Biden. I want us to close with Kareeine
(25:55):
John Pierre claiming there is no evidence. So just give
a listen to what the White House House is saying,
and then we're going to look at the newspaper headlines
that have followed.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
What we're seeing from House Republican is wasted time and
it is certainly, you know, baseless political stunt. That's what
we're seeing. And they're leaving. House Republicans are leaving this
week to go, you know, enjoy a nice holiday, right
as most Americans should. But what happened to the funding
to Ukraine? Just asked me about Ukraine. They haven't been
(26:26):
able to get that done. They haven't been able to
fix help let's fix what's going on at the border.
They haven't been able to get that done. They haven't
been able to start a conversation on how we're going
to avert a shutdown in January. They haven't been able
to do that. And so look, you know, there's been
zero evidence, zero evidence. You can ask me about engagement
and what the president has done with his family and conversation,
(26:48):
but there's no evidence. There's wait, wait, but there's no evidence.
There is no evidence that the president has done wrongdoing.
There's none, absolutely none, none, And that is just a fact.
You've heard it from Republicans themselves. So they're wasting their
time instead of doing the work on behalf of the
(27:08):
American people, they go after the president's family. But that's a.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Waste of time.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Every time she says no evidence, no evidence, no evidence,
it's a lie. But here take a look at how
Reuter's reported the House vote on impeachment Biden impeachment inquiry
authorized by House Republicans COMMA despite lack of evidence. Mind you,
this is news. Next headline, New York Times. House approves
Biden impeachment inquiry as GOP hunts foreign offense. Republicans are
(27:39):
pushing forward with a former investigation even though their year
long scrutiny of the president and his family has turned
up no evidence of high crimes or misdemeanors. That is
complete bs by the way. Washington Post next headline, Washington
Post still lacking evidence. House GOP votes to formalize biden
(27:59):
impeachment inquiry. Lawmakers have said the step will put them
on a stronger legal footing for any court challenges related
to their investigations. Understand Reuters, The New York Times, The
Washington Post, and Karine Jean Pierre on behalf of the
president are lying, and James, thank you for joining us,
because you have laid out an enormous amount of evidence
(28:20):
that apparently you don't exist. The House doesn't exist, the
investigation doesn't exist, the bank records don't exist, the WhatsApp
doesn't exist, Barisma doesn't exist. Twenty four million dollars doesn't exist.
Two hundred and forty thousand dollars to Joe Biden doesn't exist.
None of that exists because we're told there's no evidence.
These are lying shills, but the truth will out. Thank
(28:42):
you for all you're doing, and James, have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Congressman again, thank you so much for joining us. Senator.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
This is such an important conversation, obviously, and I will
say to everyone that's listening or if you're watching, if
you miss part one or part two of this three
part series, would you, James Comer, make sure you go
back and listen, but also make sure that you help
us get the word out. Whether you're on Facebook or
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(29:13):
share the podcast links to part one, Part two, part three.
Because without you the Verdict listeners, this show doesn't happen.
And when you share it on social media you bring
so many others into the conversation and allow them to
hear the facts of what the mainstream media is not covering.
I'll say it again, thank you to James Comer and
Jim Jordan for all their hard work and we hope
(29:34):
you enjoyed everything that we talked about the Senator and
I will see you back here in a couple of days.
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