Marc Sanchez: Powerlifting, Strongman, and Building the Next Generation | Angry Dad Podcast - Angry Dad Podcast

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good fucking ship. And I have a guest today, Mark

(01:06):
motherfucking Sanchez. This guy, what hey, veteran powerlifter, strong man,
someone who's fucking popping off in the market, and it's like, uh,
we you know, we've got to meet at what I
think it was Official strong Man Games the first time,
and yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. We we

(01:27):
just constantly cross paths. You know, he's a good follow
on Instagram, so make sure you checking the fuck out.
I'll put the link in the notes, you know what
I'm saying. But uh, it was the last competition was
the Santa Monica, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You have the Santa Monica Classic coasted by Martine Leasi's Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, yeah, right off, Oh yeah, no, it's all good.
We both are just like a little bit of out
of sync today, just on the scheduling part because when
you're working different time zones, you know how it fucking goes.
Oh yeah, well with Martine was that because I believe
that was Martine's like that was his first Santa Monica
pro and and everything he's doing out there. And when

(02:04):
we were talking, actually you were saying how well it
was set up and how easy everything was, and also
how accommodating they are for you guys, because typically you know,
a strong man competitions, it's all about the strong man
just you know, backstage is backstage.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, No, that was. I've done a lot of competitions.
I've done a lot of powerlifting meets stuff like that,
and that was by far the smoothest on times and
very accommodating competitions I've ever been a part of. It
was it was probably one of my favorite shows I've
ever done. Well, I would actually say it was my
favorite show that I've ever done, just being the fact
that being a strong man like trying to perform in

(02:41):
front of an organic crowd. I don't really think you
get that very often, right, Like, most of the time
people you have to you have to promote the show,
you got to have to, you know, sell tickets. You
kind of have an expectation of what the crowd is
going to be like. And man, that was on real.
We got to perform right next to the roller coaster
out the Santa Monica Pear. It was free admission, and

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so you just had people who were like, Oh, I'm
going to go to the Santamonic Computer today, Oh that
guy's deadlifting a car. Let's go check this out. And
it just turned into one of the best experiences I've
had in my life. I represent the Philippines and strong
Man and the Philippine population, the Filipino population in Los
Angeles in general, it's just massive and so literally, like

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I would, they show up, and they show up in crowds,
and literally every single time I'd finish an event, and
I loved it. I loved it so much. But like
every time I'd finish an event, I'd walk back to
the athlete area and it was pretty much open. It
was basically like a security gate that separated the athletes
from the spectators and everybody just coming up to me

(03:42):
wanting to take pictures, trying to get to know me
and stuff like that, like you're the biggest Filipino We've
ever seen this and that, and so it was. It
was a phenomenon, which is, yes, I am. I am
like the smallest athlete in most of the shows that
I do, being six feet tall three twenty and I
am one of the largest Filipinos that I've personally met.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
So hey, that's the same here because like I said,
there's the you know, like I said, there are stereotypes
on the size and god damn it, bro what even
when you tell me he was Filipino, I.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Was like, there's no way, yeah, in no way.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You know what I'm saying. It's that American food, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, you had you had Austin Andrade on your podcast
recently and it was funny. We were hanging out at
the Strongest Span on Earth and he looked at me.
He stared at me for like five minutes, and finally
because that's what he goes, Man, I thought you were
Mexican this whole time. I thought you were Mexican.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Hey. And that's the thing too, that Mexicans and Filipinos
get along quite well. The language is is very airy,
so it's like I can see that how that happens?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, especially to like a lot of people ask like, oh,
your last name was Sanchez, how that happen? And it
urmsto an entire history class, but yeah, exact, a lot
of very similar a lot of similarities between us two.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh yeah, no, it's it's crazy. And and that's the
thing too, is like being your size still, which is
a large man, You're still on the smaller end of
the strong man scale. And like I said, that's one
of those you know, it's an advantage, but it's also
a disadvantage on certain on certain events. But that's the
thing though, too, is you you got to make that
work towards your towards you know, work as hard as

(05:19):
you can to get it towards your advantage for everything.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, Like size definitely plays plays a key factor when
it comes to strong Man, But I would still say
as long as an athlete is like in tune with
their leverages and tune with how their body works, you know,
and you really lean on lead into things that you're
good at, right like for me, believe it or not,
Like I have a sprinting background and so like trying
to be faster than other athletes in my moving events.

(05:43):
You know, I have a really elite level powerlifting background,
trying to be super strong in my static events, so
trying to really lead into those, really being honest with
myself about like my weaknesses and stuff like that, and
then trying to really work on those type of things.
But ultimately, yeah, I mean there are a lot of
giant slayers in a strong man And I really liked

(06:04):
the fact that when I was first getting into strong Man,
I was like, man, I'm too small for this, There's
no way. And you learn really quick as long as
you work really hard at it. You focus on your weaknesses.
It don't matter if you're four hundred plus pounds or
it don't matter if you're three hundred early two seventy
five or something like that. Like you can easily get
into the sport, do really well exactly, and you.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Know, just mentioning that you you know as an elite powerlifter,
you know what I'm saying, Could you just let the
people know like some of your actual static lifts in powerlifting,
because like I said, it's swat, bench and deadlift, So
just in that alone to be able to say you're
an elite powerlifting numbers.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, So for the for the powerlifting fans, I had
a five hundred and thirty one dot score. I was
a two seventy five pound powerlifter for the majority of
my career. My last powerlifting competition was in Miami, Florida.
It was called the Ghost Clash. I had a eight
hundred and forty I'm kind of rounding because it's kilos,
but I'd about an eight hundred and forty pound squat,

(07:01):
a four hundred and twenty pound bench, and an eight
to fifteen deadlift. My current, like Jim Prs, I guess
or prs in general. Since then the Rainier Classic that's
a strongman PRORAM show up in Seattle. I scored. One
of the events was a max squat on day two
of that competition, and I squatted. I squatted a four

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hundred kilos eight hundred and eighty one pounds uh. And
then recently I pulled nine to twenty six in a
deadlift suit twice. So those are some of the big
things I've been working towards recently.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh yeah, well, you know, nowadays almost everybody in strama
and you have to pull a thousand, you know what
I'm saying. It's like, yeah, we're talking about deadli exactly exactly.
It's like, you know what it'm saying. It's like you
got to have this number, and Austin just pulled you know,
speaking of him over Yeah, and it's like everybody has
to do this and like even to like the new

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world record, which was just reset. You know what I'm
saying for thor was fucking you know, five five hundred
and ten kilos, which which is like a yeah movie, yeh,
super well, super well.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I saw I saw so. I think it was Evan
Singleton who was talking about how no matter what video
you watched online, it did not do the speed of
that justice. In person, it looked like he had at
least three more of the take. That was crazy. Yeah,
it looked super easy for him. I think on that
day he probably at least at five thirty.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh yeah. But and that's one of those things too,
is like, you know, uh, just in my background of
working with Nick and a few other strong men, you know,
like when you're pulling like that, you and especially when
you're setting records, you don't break the record astronomically. You
break it a little at a time to build it up.
But the thing even too is like with four came

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down in size and improved this technique, completely changed his
deadlift to put it on a whole there. So it's
just impressive just to watch that. And Thor is a
fucking big dude. I'm six five and I'm still looking up.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah. Thor is actually the very first like strong man
I ever met in person in his home gym in Iceland,
And I remember I think I was like I was like,
I was like two hundred and twenty pounds. I was
getting ready for like ipl worlds A little power after
me and I walk in. I got to his gym first,
so his dad let me in. Thor showed up a
little bit later. He was getting ready for like World's

(09:27):
Ultimate strong Man like Dubai or something like that, and
I remember him walking in. He was like he was
he was his old self of six nine, only four forty,
and I was like, jeezus, like I had never seen
he's in that large before.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy because like when you see him,
you see bride you just like you know, and and
that just reminds you of like, God, damn it, you
know say this for yeah, literally flex monsters.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, it's nuts.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh you know with even with that too. The one
thing I love about strong Man since I've been in
it is the camaraderie amongst the everybody competitors. You could
be going head to head to somebody you know they
turn it on, they turned on. But once you're in
that backstage area, everyone's doing the thing, but also do
everyone's having a good time.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's like it's a party. Like I remember when I
first got into powerlifting, I was like, wow, this community
is really nice and supportive, like and they weren't like
usually every time I go to a powerlifting competition. Everybody's
kind of like in their own space, but everybody's kind
of supportive and this and that. Like I remember when
I signed up for my very first strong Man show,
I was like what do I need? How do I
do it? And everybody was like, just sign up, show up,

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and if you're missing something, like we'll give you equipment.
We'll give you like sleeves, belts, whatever you need, Like
if you need tachi, we got tacky plenty of that
will help you clean the tacky off, et cetera. Like
it was super well, super supportive. I remember like my
first show, specifically, you'd come off an event and I
was like gassed, and the guy that would like that
literally went before me. Is didn't even leave the competition floor.

(10:55):
It's just turned around and started cheering me on. And
that was like a whole other level of coma. Recently,
I put on my very first Strongman show, so I'm
officially a Strongman promoter now and I put on my
very first I've put on my very first novice level show,
and even for novice level athletes, it was crazy. So
people who have never done strongman competitions before are just

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screaming at up their lungs, cheering each other on. It's
one of those things where I remember hearing it early
in my strongman career, where nobody wants to win while
you're down. We all want everybody at their absolute best.
And that really is is on display in the Stroman community.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yes it is, Yes it is. It's one of those things.
Like I said, it's one of the things I love
about strama too because like you know, I've never competed
in stra man and you know, at no level ever
any kind of competition. But the thing is is I'm
in the world, immersed in it, and it's this is
something that like it's very uncommon, like when you when
you have a team. Of course there's Camarrie, of course,

(11:59):
there's fun core jokes, but when you actually go head
to head with somebody and that person still cheering you
want they don't wish you ill, and they want you
to beat them at your best because that's the only
that's the only acceptable thing to them, you know what
I'm saying. And that's just one of those things that
I love the most about it. But yeah, what I
really want to know is is the background that you're

(12:21):
putting on for your shows. I'm talking about how hard
is it, what's coming out of pocket, fucking the headaches,
and the just competitors, dealing with somebody on that back end,
because that's more what I'm interested in, because, like I said,
I've the fun part is always the fun part, but
I want to hear what it takes to put on

(12:42):
these shows.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, So honestly, I was pretty surprising. My biggest concern
was one the athletes were going to have fun. Like
I wanted to make sure that it was a fun environment.
Because the whole reason why I put on that show
was I kind of noticed as I had gone and
supported more local shows, we're kind of I don't know
about the rest of the states, but here in Colorado,

(13:03):
I've noticed we're kind of slowly missing this next generation
of athletes. And so like I remember, I coach a
buddy of mine and he did that show, and he
just recently did his first open show and he was like,
I remember when we used to go and want shows together.
He'd be like, man, I got to compete against this guy.
I got to compete against this guy. And then he
showed up to the show and he's like, oh, none

(13:25):
of these guys are here anymore, and and that kind
of like sparked that bug where I was like, we
need something to get more athletes to just just try
the sport. And so I decided to make it an
unsanctioned show, just to kind of eliminate the overhead, right,
because I think one of the big deterrens for new
athletes is signing up for like federation fees and stuff

(13:47):
like that. Like what if you want to do a show,
it's your first drum man show and you end up
hating it. I don't. I would hate for an athlete
to pay for like an annual membership, do one competition,
and then they waste all that money and they never
compete again, which I hope never is the case. So
we started out with that, then picking out the events.
Picking out the events, I wanted to obviously pick all

(14:07):
of my favorite events, but then you got to start
teet the logistics. How are the athletes gonna warm up,
how are we gonna have you know, Like I remember
picking the events. Finally and I was like, cool, we
have enough. We have enough equipment to do head to
head lanes and actually do the show. And then then
as the show kind of got closer. I was like,
we don't have enough equipment for athletes to warm up

(14:29):
with because we have we have enough to do the show,
and so that became like a logistical issue. But all
in all, it went really well. I use, obviously, my
internal network to start reaching out. I got a lot
of sponsors for the show, a lot of them primarily
whether it was like Jim equipment or trying to provide
like goodie bags and stuff like that for the athletes.

(14:49):
I got a lot of support from my community from
people that I'm familiar with, so a lot of help there,
and then the strongman community in general, they just showed
up in numbers. I literally had to people that I
don't need any more help. I ended up having like
twenty volunteers, and I even had so many volunteers that
I was kind of like, Hey, if you're coming anyways,

(15:10):
can you know, just be available if I need help.
And literally just people just came to enjoy the show.
We had forty athletes. We opened registration I want to say,
back in April of this year, and it sold out
by June, and then the show was in early August,
so we sold out that show and then every single

(15:31):
time an athlete dropped, whether it's an injury or maybe
something came up. Colorado is a huge military state and
so sometimes people like come down on orders or something
like that. So we unfortunately had some athletes dropped, but
literally no more than a day would that slot fill
back up. So that was really cool talking about the
back end of putting on a show. I mean, for me,

(15:51):
I'm a I'm such an OCD like perfectionist type of
person with things like this, and so some of the
big things that I think really helped out my st
my volunteers was like things like weightloading matrixes. So like say,
for example, one of the events was a max or
a log clean and press. For reps for each weight class,
I literally drew as chromatic of like this is a log,

(16:14):
these are twenty fives. This is what this weight class
is doing. This is a log with three twenty fives.
This is what this weight class is doing. So like
not to say people are incompetent, but I literally made
it like dummy proof for everybody to just do things seamlessly.
So that helped out. I created like a responsibility matrix,
like hey, you guys are responsible for this, this, and this.

(16:34):
Here's your backups in case you need a break or
anything like that. That helped out. Fortunately, we were able
to use the gym that I train out Spartan String
Systems here in Colorado Springs, so we use the facility.
That was pretty easy. But all in all, everything everything
kind of flowed super seamless. Anything that was stressful was
basically self induced. Like anything that was stressful like it

(16:58):
was pretty much out of my hands regardless, I was
just stressed about it. I think some of the big
oopsis was like, oh, I probably should have rented a
porta potty, which I did the week of the show.
At first I told spectators to just bring lawn chairs,
and then I was kind of like this, stupid, It's
gonna take up way too much room. So then I
ended up renting chairs. But yeah, I for one, am

(17:20):
very for transparency because I think also if you don't
have experience putting on a show, it really changes your
perspective once you finally do, especially if you're an athlete
competitor yourself. Right, I think it's so easy to be
an athlete show up to a show and hope things
go seamless. But if you've never had the experience of
working on the back end. It's so easy to complain
about things. So like for me, I'll even give you

(17:42):
somewhat rough numbers just because I don't know the top
of my head. But I think I made about with
forty submissions. Even some of the athletes that dropped were like,
you could take it, take my submission, Like, I don't
need a refund. I want to support your show. So
I think all in all, I came in with twenty
two hundred or something like that. I didn't really need
to I didn't really need to buy anything. The only

(18:02):
thing I needed to buy things were like sandbags and
stuff like that. So a lot of my expenses were
one I wanted to even though it was an unsancious,
unsanctioned novice level show, I wanted to give the novice
athletes experience of you know, like a pro am or
like an open level show, like a like a real like.
I put a lot of effort into it, and so

(18:23):
I decided to use the majority of the funds that
I got and got everybody custom athlete shirts. I got
the you know, the competition logo on the front. I
even put their last names on the back. You know,
I put all of our sponsors on the back, and
that was like one of the biggest positive feedbacks that
are like, I've done this, this and this, and I've
never even gotten a shirt, let alone a shirt with
my name on the back, so that was super cool.

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So I did a lot of that. A lot of
the money that I did have leftover after shirts went
into equipment that I basically provided to our gym afterwards,
so our gym kind of benefited off of that as well.
And then anything left either came out of pocket for
things like things I didn't expect, like whistles, clipboards, you know, timers,

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stuff like that, cones, even duct tape for lanes and
all kinds of miscellaneous stuff you don't really think about
it as an athlete. And then any funds I had
after that, basically I paid for all of my volunteers lunches.
So that's pretty much where all that went. Planning for
the show is pretty easy, I would say the hardest

(19:25):
thing for me was not being biased on the weights,
because I literally had to consult like eight or nine
people because things that seemed way too heavy for novice
level athletes seemed good enough for me as a pro
heavyweight strong ban So I was kind of like, this

(19:46):
is probably okay, but you know, I think there also
comes to a balance where like you also kind of
have to stick to your guns a little bit. Because
my very first weight matrix, I had a handful of
athletes like, hey, I don't know if I could do
your show because this is really heavy. And one of
the really good things that I think benefited the community

(20:07):
in general was leading up to the show, I dedicated
my saturdays to host Strongman Saturdays for the novice athletes.
They got free admission to our gym if they were
at members, and I basically gave every single person that
showed up one on one time it was here's my
tips and tricks on this event. You know we are
strong man, here's ways to cheat the event, stuff like that,

(20:29):
and so yeah, I wanted to give them a welcoming
community to be like, hey, this is you know, this
is what our sport is like, and here here's you know,
how you can do really well on the show.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Well, that's exactly how you should be putting on a
show for anybody out there listening and also understanding how
much it takes. But man, just that aspect of actually
sticking to your guns and being like, hey, I will
show you how to get this done. And that's one
of those things too, is like in strong Man, people
do have their secrets, but the general knowledge is always given.

(21:00):
You know what I'm saying, let me show you, let
me tell you. Look at this. You constantly see it
in the back of like, hey, next time, maybe just
try this, or if you're feeling this, you know, that's
one of those things. And just off of you putting
off that show and everyone out there understand that's how
much work it took for him to put on a
non sanctioned show, So you can only imagine how much

(21:21):
extra work and how much extra time it would be
to do that. So it's please understand how hard this is.
That's why I'm interested in that part, because that's the thing,
is like it's a whole other side of straw Man
that only a handful of people really know, because the
majority people who are putting on shows have been putting
on shows, so you know, and you do plan on

(21:41):
continuing to promote and put on more shows.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, so I'm already planning. So I've got a lot
of positive feedback right because it was a novice level show. Obviously,
I got it pretty much from everybody that podium to
their like, oh, we can't do this show anymore because
we're technically not novice athletes anymore. I got a ton
of athletes who didn't pudium and they're like, I can't
wait to do this again next year. So we have
started planning for the same exact format, a novice level,

(22:08):
entry level show that's happening again, probably early August next year.
And then I got a lot of a lot of hey,
you should do this kind of nudge is to put
on an open show, and so won't get into too
many details right now, but basically getting sanctioned, becoming an
official director and putting on an open level show here
in our city. That's kind of also in the works too.

(22:30):
I plan on hosting that in Colorado Springs, probably around
some time between March and May. It's just kind of
tough with our weather here in Colorado Springs. I don't
really know if it's going to be a good idea
because March, I mean honestly, all the way up to
May it's snows in Colorado Springs, and I'd hate for
athletes to do something like a yoke carry in the snow,

(22:51):
you know what I mean. So, yeah, so I gotta strategize. Man,
that is strong man. You never know what kind of variables. Wait,
throw it at you. One show I did was up
in Cheyenne, Wyoming. In the last event, they are rushing
because there was a huge storm coming in and they
said that it was coming in exactly at one o'clock
and we got to like twelve thirty on the last

(23:11):
event it was Atlas Stones, and so I was winning,
I was leading in points, so obviously I was one
of the last athletes to do it. So me and
the guy that I was going head to head with
had to do Atlas Stones in the pouring rain. Uts.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is strong man. And this is
just from a conversation that we had while we were
helping with Nick in the backstage during Power of Thing.
But someone had asked you if you were gonna be
putting on a show, and they had you had told
him yes, And I do remember you telling them, oh,
it'll be in August. He's like August, and he's yeah,

(23:49):
because we know the strong man's season is at much
starts season.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yep. Yes, even for me, right, like I had the
Novice show. I had the Novice Show of the first
week of August. The second weekend of August, I don't
remember if it was Strongman related, but I know I
had something going on. I think I went out of
town for a wedding. The third week was the Strongest
Man on Earth. The fourth week I was a judge

(24:13):
in a fundraiser strongman show called The Sunday Paper Classic.
It's a fundraiser strongman show for Saint Jude. And then
what we had, what else happened? There's another I mean, yeah,
essentially what you're getting at is yes, like kind of
like end of summer ish all the way up to
like basically leave the Arnold and world strongest Man is
like strong Man, Strongman, Sharman, Sharan sharm Man. So yeah.

(24:37):
But when I said August, yeah, so the like I said,
the Novice level show will be ideally August, maybe even
early June or later later July or something like that.
It just kind of depends kind of on scheduling and
stuff like that. And then I want to host an
open show. In the early part part of the year.
We did really well as a Colorado Strongman community and

(24:58):
sinking and getting together collaboratively to make sure we're not
stepping on each other's toes. Yeah, just because we want
to be able to put on shows and get enough
athletes to sign up essentially, and so that's kind of
one of the big things where we've done really well
on the back end in our state, even collaboratively with
like Wyoming for example, because Wyoming from from where I'm

(25:19):
at in Colorado, Cheyenne, Wyoming is like a two hour drive,
and so yeah, you want to make sure like we're
not stepping on each other's toes because Cheyenne or Colorado
and Wyoming are pretty in sync. Whether it's powerlifting or
star Man, we're pretty in sync with each other.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh yeah, well, it definitely helps out, you know I'm saying,
knowing the schedule and working these things around because there's
so many shows, so many areas. And also too, it's
always good that when you're working in the community, because
like I said, when you're getting those things set up
and you're doing these things, it really helps out and
also to its further promotes the show because just like

(25:55):
you said earlier, you know, you're getting generations happening where
you get the get people that are not being able
to compete no more, or people that are going pro
and then now you got to bring them up. You
know what I'm saying. It's one of those things, you know,
even with some of the shows, Yeah, you gotta, you
got to you know what I'm saying, You gotta help inspire,
help push, like even out here. Uh you know, Geanie,

(26:18):
she's always here in Sacramento, which is supposed to me,
and I've gone to her Winter Warriors show twice already,
and one of the things that she always says is like, no, Mike,
I promote this open. I have this open. But the
thing is is these weights are to prepare you for
what you're going to get if you make it to
a national show, if you make it to a championship,

(26:38):
Because you know what I'm saying, like, you gotta, you gotta,
you gotta prepare people for what's actually gonna happen, because
god damn it, even at OSG. You know what I'm saying,
You do a deadlift, ladders, you're doing max reps, you
know what I'm saying. Trying to figure that out and
you never know what to expect.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Things can change on the Fly. I remember we did
I did the the Arnolds earlier this year, and I
won't get into too many details about what happened there,
but basically, like we nixed the event as as time
started getting later and later in the day, they started
changing their rules and you know, one of the events broke,

(27:13):
so we had to change the event with nobody's you know,
we got maybe like a five hour notice, Hey, this
event is changing because the thing that we were supposed
to use broke. So stuff like that like that that
that is, that is that is things that are normal,
whether you're at the local level or whether you get
up to those international level stages. You kind of talked

(27:34):
about a little bit earlier when you're like, you know,
what were some of the headaches and you know some
of the athlete cries and this and that about putting
on the show. I mean, I would say, looking back
on it, they're pretty small. The only like big one
was for an example, right, like, I was working with
a company and they wanted to sponsor the show with
equipment and they basically kind of left me uncommunicated with

(27:58):
for a couple of weeks and then like two weeks
before the show, they reached out finally and they're like,
I'm sorry, but we're out of stock of the things
we were going to send you. So then that was
like a huge stressor because I was like, crap, we
were like relying on that, this and that and so
stuff like that. Like I said, you'll never know. You
never know what to expect, right, Like I was a

(28:20):
judge at that Sunday Paper Classic show I was talking about,
and in the middle of the event, there was a
sandbag over bar and it was like a rising bar
and as it kind of got a little bit taller,
one of the athletes just spearheaded the sandbag with the
yoke with like the loading pin on the yoke, and
so we were out of a sandbag, and so we
kind of just had to tell the athletes, well, sorry,

(28:42):
use this heavier one. And so you just you never know.
And that's why I like to I mentor a lot
of athletes. I'm starting to I'm even starting to coach,
and like, you just kind of have to adapt. You
can't be you can't be you can't like the weights
that you're doing at a competition can't be your maxes anymore.
Like you can't just peak for those weights. You have

(29:04):
to be able to do those weights any day of
the week to be successful in the sport. In my opinion.
I remember before, like my opinion has changed before, Like
when I first got to Sean Man, I was like, okay, cool,
I could peak for some of these things. But like say,
for example, if you have an eight hundred pound deadlift
for reps and you're one re at max is, you
know eight hundred, how well are you gonna do now?

(29:24):
So I definitely think that you should just be ready
to go. I remember watching the World Championship deadlift right
that just happened this weekend, and a lot of them were,
like a lot of the athlete interviews, they're like, yeah,
I competed four weeks ago at Strongest Man on Earth,
and then I did this, and I have another competition

(29:45):
in four weeks, and then after that another one in
four weeks, and it's just like you just kind of
have to you just kind of have to go through
the grinder.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's it. That's it, that's what you think. Like I said,
it's murders Row with some of the heaviest, biggest shows,
and they're all pretty much within months of each other,
and it's like, how do you you know, like the
recovery and the progression you have to make in between
each shows Like it's insane to me, and I always
think about it.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I'm like, god, damn, yeah, that's why too. Like I
think there's actually like coming from being a powerlifter and
not going into a strong man. I wouldn't say it's
a large you know, controversy or debate, but it's kind
of like you have some of these powerlifters who are
you know, two twenty two, two seventy five whatever they
mean maybe and statically they're freaks, right, squatting eight hundreds,

(30:36):
you know, deadlifting nine hundred, stuff like that. But when
you talk about, oh, you know, I'm a powerlifter, I'm
super strong compared to you know, someone who's four hundred
pounds deadlifting like nine hundred. Right, So if you're like
two seventy five dead lift nine hundred versus a four
hundred pound guy deadlifting nine hundred, I think the biggest
difference between being the strongest well, you know, being a

(30:58):
strong man and just being a power is like, yes,
you deadlifted nine hundred pounds as a powerlifter, that's phenomenal.
That's outstanding. But this guy's gonna do that every other week,
like essentially, right, Like, if if he wants to stay competitive,
if he wants to stay in the pro circuit, that
guy's gonna have to do that every couple of weeks,
you know what I mean. And so when you talk

(31:18):
about like rest and recovery, you could be like you
could be a powerlifter be like, yeah, I'm just not
going to do that competition. But like some of these guys,
that's our livelihood. They've they've got to do these shows
back to back to back, yes, you.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Know, and even with you to say that, you know,
there are differences in powerlifting and in strauma where it's
like straw men use you know, like like you're gonna
have competitions where they're using a deadlift bar, but they're
also have a competition where's using an axle. You know
what I'm saying, You're using equipment that doesn't bend or
give you any advantage as in some of the powerlifting stuff,

(31:54):
like like even squatting an axle is insane, you know
what I'm saying, Yes, jerking a fucking you know an
axle is insane. Trying to fucking get it overhead, you know. Yeah,
it's like the equipment to use makes just so much
of a tremendous difference in just some of the lifts.
And you know, even with the people who are powerlifting,

(32:16):
you know what I'm saying, Like I said, all respect
and all that stuff too, yeah, of course, yeah, but
when you go to strong Man, it's a deadlift is
completely different.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah. And it's also it's a funny thing too, because
you never know the thing you're lifting could easily have been,
you know, something made in some person's garage randomly. You know, yeah,
I'm a crack I'm gonna crack a beer and build
a timber frame or something like that. Right, it's just yeah, oh, now,
all of a sudden, it's this thing that people are
using in competitions. Obviously at the big level shows, you know,

(32:46):
like Worlds, you know, the strongest men and art et cetera.
Like they're gonna they're gonna do what they can to
master those crafts. But like, you never know what you
could walk into a strong Man show.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Oh yeah, some of the yolks I've seen at just
some of these smaller shows and just some of the equation, Oh,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that was welded together there.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, and that does not look very secure. I've been
to plenty of shows where things have broken in the
middle of the competition. So that's just life sometimes.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, that that is strong Man right there. As it comes.
You got to roll with the punches and still compete,
you know what I'm saying. So that's one of the
things I love about it because it's almost and I'm
not comparing it to UFC, but what I'm saying is UFC,
it's that day. You know what I'm saying, What is
happening at this moment, you know what I'm saying, Because
like everyone can prep, everyone could be ready, everyone can

(33:35):
you know, everything can go smooth during training. But the
back and forth that you get with strong Man because
of that, that's that's like one of the biggest thrills
that I love. I love watching that aspect, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
How, yes, these athletes are strong, but how resilient can
they be to adapt? And that is a big difference
in setting yourself apart.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, it's a huge difference trying to get yourself set
apart and just pushing through, Like because the amount of
adversity that pops up at these shows for people that
you know, and that could be internal external, you know
what I'm saying, Because you could see somebody who could
like I should be able to get this, but they don't,
and then now you've got to see them try to
regroup and bring it back together because you know, I'm

(34:17):
pretty sure you've had plenty of those struggles, you know,
starting out in strong Man and coming up. You know
what I'm saying, Like, what are the things that you
always try to focus on on? Just that mental attitude
that you have to have towards these events and doing
these shows.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of one of those
things where like if I'm not prepping for a competition,
I'm genuinely just focusing on conditioning and just staying strong
and staying healthy. I think one of the big things is,
like I think it definitely changed when, especially when I
became a father. But like strong Man, I've accepted will
always be there whether you've got FOMO or not, right

(34:51):
like that should will always be there. There's always gonna
be a competition lined up, you know. Rold Givitation is
big enough where you know they'll probably have it every year.
If they don't, other company will likely step up and
have a show, just as Big World Strongest Man been
around since what nineteen seventy seven or something like that,
it's been It's been around every year since. And so

(35:11):
I think one of the biggest things focusing on is
always always prioritizing your health, right, Like I see so
many athletes who aren't even at a Big four level yet, right,
and they're just jumping right back in. You know, they're
just trying to compete as often as frequent as possible.
But like if you tear like a hamstring or like
a bicep, if you go back in at eighty percent,

(35:33):
would you rather go into a competition eighty percent healthy
and potentially hurt yourself again, or would you rather just
wait till your one hundred percent and then just go
back to the fight healthy. I think it's a hard
balance though, because right because like I said, I think
it's it's definitely changed as I became a father. But
like help, yes, I think there's a degree of how

(35:53):
bad do you want it? But at the same time too,
like there's so many other factors in your day to
day life, like if you can't even get out of bed,
is is risking your recovery that much more important? You
know what I mean? And so I think for me
when I'm not you know how I keep my mental
like fortitude and stuff like that. Like I think it's

(36:15):
just genuinely listening to my body understanding where I can
focus on recovery and stuff like that. And I spend
way more money on recovery aspects or products or whatever,
then I will on the next newest nie sleeve or
whatever it may be, like supplements, et cetera. Right, Like

(36:36):
I would say, top down, it would go nutrition, recovery,
and then gym things like for me, for example, I
do you know I pay for mobility. I have somebody
who stretches me out and helps me with my mobility
every week. I do deep tissue work pretty much every
other week, depending if I'm in prep. If I'm not

(36:57):
in prep, probably like once a month, so probably twice
a month, depending on you know, finances. I owe a
chiropractor regularly. You know, I do my blood work regularly.
I'm always trying to think of things that can help
me perform better in the gym because you'll hear it
a lot of obviously in the strength community. But the
gym is the easy part. It's all of the maintenance

(37:18):
things afterwards. It keeps you in the gym.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
It's the hard part exactly, trying to keep your body
together and all that. Yes, that's like one of the
hardest things, you know, especially in the sport, because you
get guys that come in hot, fast and strong, but
they're redlining and not worried about recovery, which you know,
like I said, I'm not trying to speak on you
know how you know people are, but I always see
people come in really hot, do really good, then you

(37:41):
don't see them again and.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Don't see yet. It sucks. I say that all the time.
I think if it's not like not necessarily like it's
like a pr or anything like that. But I would say,
like my goal in strong man would be to be
someone like Mark Felix, right, Like you know, you don't. Well,
while Mark Felix is a phenomenal athlete, phenomenal strong man,
I don't aspire to be, you know, the greatest of

(38:04):
all time. Obviously I don't. I don't have that, but
I want to be able to be enjoying this sport
for that many years, right, Like I want to be
I want to be Mark Felix's age, Like, what is
I think he's like in his sixties?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I think right, No, I believe he's fifty yeah, a
fifty six or fifty seven years old. Yeah, And he
just and he retired what two years ago from strongest
man on world and we're worlds Strongest Man, so he
doesn't compete World Strongest Man no more. But he's still
he's OSG yeah, and you know, giant slides and his

(38:37):
age and is still holding Oh you're still doing it,
still breaking records and it's insane at his age, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Exactly, And so like that for me is a big
goal of mine. Is like, you know, as long as
the conditions are right, and I still love it obviously,
as long as I do, but like, I would rather
be on that stage for twenty plus years than to
come in, go to World Strongest Man like three times
and then just kill my body off. I would rather

(39:07):
be doing this for a long time.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
And that's a good strategy to do to keep you
know what I'm saying that that's something everyone should be
striving for. Is like, hey, understanding what it takes understanding
what it what you gotta do, because this it takes this,
you know what I'm saying, Like doing the recovery, doing
the nutrition, doing the blood work. You know what I'm saying.
There are so many aspects of strong because like these
high elite people are doing things that no one's considering

(39:32):
because everyone's I need them. Just like I said, I
need the newest sleeve, I need the newest bar, I
need the like I need a suit, I need all
these things. I'm like a lot of these guys don't
start with any of that ship. They start with fucking
building that strength, building that body, and building that that
that that form, you know what I'm saying, before they
even get to touch any.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Of that stuff. Yeah, exactly. It's just like I think
it's so it's so easy to spend money on the
next latest and great this invention, but at the end
of the day, if your form is trash, the next
the world's next new knee sleeves are not going to
fix your squad. You know, Buying seven different pairs of
elbow sleeves isn't gonna make you overhead press four hundred pounds.

(40:14):
The work in the gym that you put in is
gonna be able to? Is gonna be what does that right?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Like?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Right now? For me, I've getting ready for OSG in November,
and I suck at Circus Dumbell. I'm not going to
go out and buy multiply elbow sleeves and hope that
all of a sudden I can hit that fourth Circus
Dumbell at OSG. I'm going to work on my weakness
and understanding, well, being honest with myself. Why do I
suck at Circus Dumbell? Is it a strength issue? Is

(40:40):
it a form issue, you know, technique, whatever it may be.
And then and then really being honest with myself. I
think going back to kind of what we were talking about,
where like athletes come in super hot, always wanting to compete.
It's it's hard though, you know what I mean. I
do want to go back and circle back. It is
it is hard because like for me, for example, I
competed like six times last year, and I remember the

(41:02):
last show I did was The Arnold and I remember
walking into that show just feeling foggy. I felt like
I was dragging. I felt super fatigued. I don't even
I don't even remember I'll be honest, I don't even
remember most of the event. I just remember I was
tired the entire time. And you know, it puts it
puts a harsh toll on your body competing that many times,

(41:25):
and while there's benefit to it, you know, there's also
you know, some cons as well. But like for me
last year, when I decided to compete as many times
as I did, I did it with the intent of
I wanted to learn as much as I could from
the individuals I compete with, the events that I had
to do, how the show was ran, et cetera. And

(41:46):
so like, I wanted to grab as much data points
as I can from those competitions. And then now I'm
kind of in a phase where I'm picking and choosing.
Obviously my son kind of you know, I have an
eleven month I have an eleven month old son. He
takes priority in my life, and you know, and so
that kind of also has a factor too. But also

(42:06):
realistically stepping back and being like, I'm my goal as
a pro heav you wight strong man is to go
to World Strongest Man is to go to Giants Life,
and right now the clear cut path to do so
is the Official Strongman Games, and so I'm gonna I'm
going to essentially empty my tank into that show and
do everything I can to podium. But it's hard. Going

(42:30):
back to what I was saying, it's hard. I've gotten
invites to a lot of shows, especially after the Santa
Monica Classic, and it's it's hard. It's hard watching them
come to Fruition. It's hard watching all the promotion come up.
You know. I recently turned down the invite to sc
l USA and they have been promoting that show super

(42:51):
heavy and I see it and it is punching me
in the gut. But at the end of the day, too,
I think it's really important for a lot of athletes
to remember what is your long term and right now
that's going to the world shruggs man.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
And that's the thing too. It's just like you said,
it's being focused and understanding, you know what I'm saying.
Also too, you know, it's not putting all your eggs
in a basket, but what it is is lining yourself
up for that success, you know what I'm saying. That's
one of those things, you know, like working with the
people that I've worked with and just being in the conversation,
hearing the background. You know, one of the things you

(43:25):
always hear is, look, people can compete repeatedly and put
themselves in that position, but you've got to make a
statement when you make to these shows where it's like, hey,
I'm prepared, I'm conditioned, and I can perform. And when
you perform and you hit that podium, you know what
I'm saying. And even if you're not hitting the podium
and you're still fucking presenting something, that's a package and

(43:46):
that's that that is phenomenal, you know what I'm saying,
Because if you're setting records in these shows, that gets
that puts that flag up, you know what I'm saying,
And that's what will help you do these things and
understanding you know what I'm saying. Like, like I said,
you can't. You can only compete as much as you
can and be as healthy as you can because guess what,
you have a goal, you have a plan. Some people

(44:06):
blindly just rush into this thinking that it's gonna it's
just gonna work.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Out, right exactly, There's there's got to be a strategy,
especially like not to undermine the fact that a lot
of athletes do compete a lot like there there are
a lot of top level athletes that compete a lot too. Well. Yeah,
like right like half thorn Bjornson pulled five oh five
like how many weeks ago and then came in pulled
five to ten and then still won the show. There
is a degree to it. But I think there's a

(44:32):
strategy to it. And yeah, I think one of the
things that isn't talked a lot about in our sport
is there is also kind of a business behind the
behind the scenes, So you gotta and that's exactly why
I think you've got to start strategizing well, most importantly
obviously still having fun and enjoying the sport.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yes, yes, And and that's the thing too, is like
there is a business that's behind strong Man. There's a
lot of companies out there that depend on trump Man
for their companies to be successful. And that's why you
get these sponsors. That's why you have these athletes you know, repping.
You know that they're they're they're such a huge thing
on the back end. And like I said, I'm gonna

(45:12):
just all want to go into this conversation with you
because like I said, as an athlete, as a pro athlete,
and with sponsorships you wanted things you always hear from
everybody who's not not and I'm just saying and not
a pro that are coming up. I just need to
get a sponsor. I just need to get this. And
it's like one of those goals. I'm like, you should
that shouldn't be your goal.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
No, if you're if your goal is sponsorships, I think
you're gonna be blinded by the actual mission. And what
I mean by that is is if you just do
the work and don't chase the money, the money will
just come to you. And I think that's just that
doesn't even have to be strongly and that's that's just
every aspect in life in general, right, Like if you

(45:53):
want a new job, if you focus on your salary
every single time that you try and find a new job,
you're just going to be stuck. Oh, I don't want
this job because you know it doesn't pay very well.
But say, for example, for me, like outside of Storman,
I work in cybersecurity. So it's like, if you're so
focused on this one aspect of oh, I'll only make

(46:16):
X amount of money here, but you gain so much
value and experience you might be shooting yourself in the
foot from just sling shotting forward, right, And so yeah,
there are there are a lot a lot of athletes
that I would even say, go to stuff like World
Strongest Man and you know, the Big four shows, and

(46:38):
they might not even have any big name sponsors. The
more that I've been in the community, the more I've
kind of learned about how some athlete contracts work and
sponsorships and stuff like that go, and like there is
that kind of weird bubble of like affiliate and you know,
like you know, sponsored athlete, et cetera. Right, And so

(46:59):
like there's that, and it's like, are you chasing Strongman
to have as many brands on your T shirt as possible?
Or are you trying to be the actual billboard that
companies want to put their logos on. And I think
that's that's what the focus needs to be is is Hey,

(47:19):
if I go to Official Strongman Games and get first,
I can already think about the companies. You're gonna be like, ooh,
this guy just won Official strong Man Games. He's the
first Filipino to ever go to Giants Live. He might
also be the first Filipino to go to World strongest man.
We would love to work with this guy. And so

(47:39):
exactly when you chase the ultimate mission, which is just
bettering yourself as an athlete or you know, whatever it
may be, depending on the context of your of your life.
But if you just focus on the actual goal of
just bettering yourself in general the sponsor, you won't even
have to chase sponsors the higher level I got and

(48:00):
powerlifting and then now crossing over to storm Man that actually,
I would say the more times I've found companies who
are you know, wanted to be like affiliates or whatever
whatever the definition may be, and I've turned them down
just because of the sense of not wanting to work
with them. But it's not about not wanting to work
with them. But it's kind of like I don't think
the athletes chasing sponsorships and affiliations truly understand the work

(48:24):
that goes into it for an actual return on investment. Yes,
there is, there is a lot of back end work
that thankfully for me, I have you know, I have
a background in like videography and graphic design and stuff
like that, so like making content is easy, but like
I remember, there's been numerous times where like I've tried

(48:45):
to film a YouTube video and my workouts would go
from two to like four plus hours just because you know,
we got to film stuff or whatever. So like, there
is so much work that it's cool to say that,
you know, oh I'm I'm with this company, I'm with
that company. But like when that company is like, hey,
can you make a product video for this and you

(49:06):
just finished like a three hour training session of strongman
events or whatever it may be, is the first thing
on your mind going to be, hey, check out this
new product that my sponsored company sent me, right, Like
it's It's it not to say that, you know, I
don't appreciate it or anything like that, or any of
the companies that I work with, but there is a

(49:26):
there's a lot more work than just going around and
being like I work with these people, you know what
I mean? So exactly, there's a lot more behind the
scenes work.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Oh yeah, now there's a lot more scenes behind the
work because like, and here's the thing. I come from
a podcasting background, and that's what I've been doing for
a big portion of my life. And the amount of
sponsorships that I've had and I've been the here's the
list of my sponsorships down to like, I only take
what actually works for me, you know what I'm saying,

(49:57):
because I've had to definitely understand it because podcasting world
is the same world, not the same world as drama,
but in the same concept of like, oh, if I
have a sponsorship, it'll make me legit. It doesn't make you.
I legit your show, you make you legit. You know
what I'm saying. It's like, you know, of course I
do have people that pay me, and I take it,

(50:18):
thank you. I appreciate my sponsors. But at the same time,
I've had the biggest names and the smallest names, and
it's something that at a moment, I was like, I
can't do this over because it's taking away from my show,
you know what I'm saying. And also too, like really
working with somebody who will work for you and work
with you. It is more the understanding, at least coming

(50:38):
from my background of what I've had to deal with
all my affiliations and sponsorships and all that stuff. Yeah,
it's just so crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, especially too, if like you get right, like we're
on the subject of it, if an athlete's chasing an
affiliation or sponsorship, like that you also kind of want
to make sure you like working with these people, right,
Like I know plenty of times where I've seen people
who are like, oh, I finally got picked up by
this company and they're like they're super iresponsive and they
make me pay for all these things and YadA, YadA, YadA,

(51:08):
whatever it may be. Well, it's like, if you're coming
out of pocket to represent something and you're not even
enjoying it, then maybe it's just best for you to
break ties like you're you're not if you're not able
to perform at what you do because you're spending time
doing this, this and this, and now you're kind of

(51:29):
coming out of pocket for it. It's kind of like,
do you care more about representing the brand to sound
legit or do you care more about being a billboard
for brands to slap their logos on.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And that's exactly right there. It's so crazy. Like I said,
I you know, when I was young, in the podcast
game I had, I had to learn that lesson and
I didn't learn it very fast, but I did learn it. Yeah,
But that's you know, for for those out there who
train strong men, who are strong man and basically in
any endeavor that you know you can have, I have
a sponsorship, is just understand that, like you know, you

(52:03):
the value you have should not be going towards trying
to promote something else. You should be one hundred percent
pushing yourself, pushing your goal, pushing your agenda of what
you're trying to achieve in whatever facet you guys are chasing.
You know what I'm saying, It's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, Like I said, there's a lot of work to it, right,
Like sometimes you'll have in your contract like you have
to wear this during this event, or you know, make
sure you say something about this, or like hey, after
you finish this event and they do an interview, if
you make sure you say our name and stuff like that.
So it's just like even remembering some of those things

(52:38):
can get you forgetting something, could even get you to
lose your sponsorship and stuff. So it's like, I don't know.
At the end of the day, I want to make
a point that it's very important to continue to be
the billboard that logos want to slap on. It's it's
not important to chase them as soon as you become
that billboard right there on that know, on that freeway

(53:01):
driving into Las Vegas. You know, you become that Yeah,
every then companies will want to slap their logos on you,
and then you won't even have to reach out to companies.
Companies will be reaching out to you. And not to
say that it's an egocentric thing or you know you
should be you know, arrogant about it. But it's like
if you just focus on the goal at hand, whether
it's going to World Strungness man or being a pro

(53:21):
tennis player or you know, being a fighter or whatever
it may be, focus on your craft and the money,
the sponsorships, all of those nice little goodie bags start
coming for you versus you trying to chase it exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
And that's exactly like the one of the things I
always want, like with a lot of people because you
know you I hear it amongst people, you know, training,
going to the gym, being around the thing, and it's
just always like I don't worry about that part, you
know what I'm saying, And with with people understanding and
hearing it, it's like it'll push you in the right direction. Man.
It Like I said, it took me a long time
to learn that lesson just a Miam. But I'm glad

(53:57):
I learned it, and I'm glad we can always talk
about it because that's one of those things is that
I want people to be successful. I want people to win,
and I want people to get what they want. But
at the same time, it's just like you said, you
got to be the billboard, you got to be the person,
you got to be the representative you. And when you
look good, feel good, and do good, the right things

(54:17):
will come right to you.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Hell yeah, man, I love doing these podcasts because sometimes
I just fucking lose track of fucking time. Man, It's
almost an hour, and it's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
You know, Yeah, it's happened to be a couple of times.
I just love talking to people. I love sharing my experiences.
I love talking about the things that I've been through.
You know, I think, especially when you get into strong Man,
everybody's journey to wherever they go is so different, right,
you know, Like some people pick the OSG path, some
people go, you know, towards like SCL some people don't

(54:49):
do either and they end up on World Strongest Man.
It's just like it's so fascinating talking to people talking
about their experiences and you know what might work for you,
I might what might what what might work for you
might not work for me, and so under but having
that having that knowledge is still essential in my opinion.
Just because hey, that worked for you, that doesn't mean

(55:09):
it'll work for me. But I know that that's you know,
a potential exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
You know what I'm saying. It's it's understanding. You know,
straw man is strategy in every way, whether it's a show,
whether it's an event, whether it's getting to the goals
that you want. You gotta you gotta have your head
on that swill and understand how the points work, how
the events work, and how everything will play out. You
know what I'm saying. It's almost like you it's chess,

(55:35):
you know what I'm saying, And most people don't even
think it. I was just big guys picking up rocks.
I'm like, that's that's not that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
That's not the case. And but yeah, I mean, like
like we talked about, right, like, while there's a strategy,
while there's you know, a business to the back end,
you know, there's so many other aspects to being and
competing as a strong man. I think the number one
thing I want to tell everybody who listens to this
is make sure you're still having fun, because there's really,

(56:04):
there's really no point. I said this on another podcast recently,
but without the fans, we're just dudes picking up rocks.
And while I would, while I will always love the
sport of strongmen no matter whether I compete or not,
you know, you got to make sure that you enjoy
it because if you're not enjoying this sport, you're just
breaking your body off. You're not having fun anymore, and

(56:27):
for what you know. So I think that's one of
the biggest things that I kind of want to throw
out there is like I see so many people who
go to competitions. You know, I've I've had experiences where
I do shows and stuff like that and people are
just pouting, like, oh, I didn't do well at this event.
Santa Monica the same Monchaolassack was a perfect example where
I won't necessarily call anybody out, but like sometimes people

(56:47):
would zero an event or maybe not get as many
reps as other competitors, and they kind of go to
the back and they'd pout, throw a towel over their
head and cry about it or something like that. But
it's like, look, how sick this is. We all won,
we all paid, but we all paid to be here
to compete on the Santa Monica Peer in front of

(57:07):
a crowd who didn't pay to be here. They are
just here screaming and cheering for you because they thought
what you were doing was cool. And I guarantee you
that this is probably the first time a lot of
the crowd has seen somebody pick up a car, press
a log, lift a circus dumbbell, carry one thousand pounds

(57:27):
on their back. This is something where people are people
are entertained by you. So just live in the moment
and enjoy it. It doesn't matter if you have a
bad event, move on, go to the next one and
do better. But make sure you're always having fun because
I think we talked about recovery, we talked about nutrition, etc.
And stuff like that, but I think what'll keep you
in this game the longest is making sure you still

(57:49):
enjoy why you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Hell yah, hell yeah, you know. And let's end on
that right there, because that that was fucking beautiful. Because
let everyone knows where they can find you, so I
can put your information in the bottom and so everyone
you know Instagram, all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah yeah, So my name, like I said, if you
didn't catch the beginning, my name is Mark Sanchez. That's
Mark with a C. You can find me on Instagram
at Legend of Mark. You can find me on YouTube
Legend of Mark Underscore, and if you find me anywhere else,
that's not me.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
You heard that all right, and uh this is the
motherfucking Dad. Thank you guys for tuning in. I appreciate it.
Make sure you like, share, subscribe, all that fucking bullshit.
It really helps me to fuck out. I'm also part
of the Inner Circle Podcast Network, a group of powerful
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