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November 13, 2025 38 mins
On today’s Good Day Health Show - ON DEMAND…

Dr. Jack Stockwell, a NUCCA Chiropractor and GAPS Practitioner in SLC, UT (866.867.5070 | ForbiddenDoctor.com | JackStockwell.com), covers the the biggest news in the health and wellness space from a holistic, naturopath perspective. 

Dr. Jack just returned from a several-day conference seminar in Minneapolis where he was speaking 10 150+ doctors on two separate mornings, and one of the things he was speaking on and wanted to share on the Good Day Health Program is heart health. With all of the technology we have today, and miraculous surgeries, heart disease is still the number 1 killer in America. So what’s missing? Why are deadly cardiac events still killing people at an alarming rate, making it the number 1 way to die for Americans. 

Additionally, the whole nutritional complex works best with heart disease problems, when the reality is that good food choices lead to better health. 

Then, Doug joins Dr. Jack to address listener questions, including the mind-body connection between what’s manifested physically from stress and psychosomatic symptoms.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
I am doctor Jack Stockwell at Jackstockwell dot com and
at Forbidden dot com. I just returned from a several
day conference seminar in Minneapolis where I was speaking to
one hundred and fifty or so doctors, might have been

(00:36):
more on two separate occasions, two separate mornings, for a
couple of hours each time on presentations. And one of
the things I was speaking about that I wanted to discuss,
or at least talk to you about, was again the heart.
I am so concerned with the overall cardiac condition of

(01:01):
my patients because it still ranks number one as the
biggest killer in America. And with all our technology and
the miraculous surgeries that exist, the miraculous surgery that saved
my brother's life with his heart attack, and the technology,

(01:21):
the instrumentation, the testing, the cardiac lab and what they
can do with all the incredible technology, it's still the
number one killer in America.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
So what is missing?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know, what is missing in what we are taught
by the American Heart Association. What is missing from as
I look through various peer reviewed journals high pertension cardiology today,
the different kinds of medical publications, what is missing in

(01:54):
all of this that I think an average detective, just
stepping back doing some forensic work would look at this
thing and say, something's missing here, that we could have
this tremendous potential for a breakthrough in the greatest moments
of medicine, in stopping the greatest killer of Americans.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
What's missing? Well, that's what I.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was talking about to this group of doctors, because you
should never, never embark on medical intervention or treatment of
cardiovascular disease without some kind of an ancillary nutritional protocol
aimed at least at the basics and at best at

(02:43):
your specific individual need. And I mean it's kind of
scary that Americans have been hoodwinked into believing all they
have to do is check into Stanford or check into
Johns Hopkins, or check in to Cleveland Clinic or something
like that or some other heart center low Melnda, and

(03:06):
their cardiovascular problems are going to be cured. I mean,
actually the opposite is the norm, and it's not unusual
for people with cardiovascular disease to leave these centers with
their original problem right along with a bunch of others.

(03:29):
I mean, even the medical people themselves recognize that once
you have cardiovascular disease, they can do very little. And
according to the editor of the journal of the American
Medical Association, Medical Treatment for Cardiovascular Disease, and if I
can remember it correctly, I don't have it here in

(03:50):
front of me. But with something like it's too late,
it's defensive, it's reactive, it's time consuming, there's all kinds
of side effects, it's very costly and usually only partially
successful and eventually endless. And so we have drugs right
now for every heart condition and surgeries with bypasses and

(04:13):
stints when the arteries clogged, But we don't have any
recommendations out there about preventing clogged arteries except low fat diets.
And I mean there's no mention ever made about blood
vessel inflammation, very little about using whole nutritional complexes to

(04:35):
maintain good blood vessel tone and health. Rather, the newest
techniques include irradiating stents that are stuffed with drugs to
prevent their natural closing up because the underlying nutritional cause
of the problem still goes on being ignored. And when
we put stints in the heart, yeah, it opens up

(04:58):
a closed down coordinary artery and it lets more blood
flow through and you start feeling better. But that stent
doesn't put and your body, regardless of how much it's
going to make you feel better, in the short run,
your body knows it doesn't belong there, and it's going
to start making attempts to get rid of it, which

(05:18):
is why many people get stents have to go in
and have them redone or reopened, because your body sees
it as a foreign element and wants to get rid
of it. So this new experiment with that includes treating
stints in arteries with any cancer drugs. And then after
six months, all the patients that were using this technique,

(05:41):
you know, had had enjoyable success. But after a year
more than half of the same people had to go
do a reblock. It had to be reopened. So another
medical advance is stimied and shelved, and there's going to
be more because, as stated in the Journal of American
Medical Association, medical treatment of cardiovascular disease is endless.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I just had a conversation with my brother, my younger brother,
my youngest brother.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
He's only three years younger than I am.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And he just had and I think I've related the
story in past shows where he drops dead on the
ninth green in a golf tournament, and it's only because
of the skill of the person he's playing against, who's
an expert in CPR and teaches CPR that he was

(06:36):
able to keep my brother alive until the EMT showed up.
Now my brother's back on the golf course again, but
he has a pacemaker defibrillator in his chest. And so
I was speaking to him just yesterday and I said,
what drugs are you on? And oh my goodness, they're
more than half a dozen of them, just one after

(06:56):
another and another. But he's I've you know, he grew
up together, so he knows me as a kid, he
knows me as a teenager, he knows me as a
young adult before I went to school to learn this stuff.
And so I'm just another voice and yeah, yeah, Jack, yeah,
yeah yeah. And I can't get him to understand drugs

(07:17):
are not going to rebuild that damaged heart. It'll keep
it pumping for a while, but it won't rebuild it.
You need good sound, cardiac oriented nutrition to rebuild that
heart muscle. And so I you know, it's just right
now it's falling on deaf ears, but I think eventually
he'll start to listen. But the point I'm trying to

(07:41):
make is that basic care for cardiovascular disease now is
just one drug after another or one surgery after another,
until eventually the heart finally even with the greatest, bestest
drugs out there, it's like beating it horse. It finally quits.

(08:02):
And then there's dozens of drugs. I mean, Cumidin is
now dished out like candy, and it's being slowly replaced
by Eloquist, a very powerful blood thinner turns your blood
into water, and there's no antidote for it. In fact,
I've got some patience who I take care of for

(08:24):
nervous system issues that are on cardiovascular drugs that are
now on Eloquist, And I said, what did your doctor
tell you about eloquest? Oh, just be careful, don't bleed
a small laceration or injury. If you can't get to
the er in time for them to staunch it, you

(08:46):
could bleed to death. And cumidin. But the good thing
about Eloquist I know I'm getting a little into the
weeds here is that usually your body will clear it
within three to four days, but you're taking it. You're
taking it constantly anyway. So people with heart valves replacements,
people with pacemakers, arrhythmias, and the more powerful these blood

(09:13):
thinners are used. Its side effects, as I said, is
turning blood into water. And as of late, the researchers
are finding that some people metabolize these drugs differently than
others do, putting them extreme risk of bleeding to death.
So your liver, almost every last drop of blood in

(09:37):
your body goes through the liver about every ninety seconds.
And the liver is the great oil filter of your
automobile body. It is constantly filtering what you're eating and
drinking and breathing in that gets into the bloodstream like
a perpetual filter that you can't just every three thousand

(10:00):
miles or five thousand miles or ten thousand with synthetic oil,
go in there and change it and then have a
brand new filter. And the more we give the human
body ingredients that are not oriented for our body to utilize,
the more these things kind of back up in the

(10:20):
system until the liver can figure out a.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Way to metabolize it, to break it.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Down, get it into the blood stream through the kidneys
and out of the body, or through the bile and
out through the colon. As the liver is constantly trying
to keep your blood clean, your body will beg borrow
and steal and do everything it possibly can to keep
your blood clean as possible. And so some of the

(10:45):
side effects of these drugs is the build up, the
toxic build up in the liver as well as muscle
tissue as well as the kidneys of these chemicals, it
has a very hard time dealing with because it hasn't
figured it out.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
You take something more.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Organic, you say, do you take something like morphine or
opium or heroin, things that came from the poppy that
Mother nature made the poppy. Now, she didn't make heroin,
and she didn't make crack cocaine that comes from the
coca leave. She didn't make any of those things we do. However,

(11:21):
it has an organic origin from mother Nature, and so
the liver better recognizes that than some of the other
drugs that we put in there, and so it's easier
for the liver to create enzymes that break down these
drugs that people use recreationally so that you end up

(11:43):
having to take stronger and stronger doses all the time
to get the same effect. But with heart drugs it's
completely different. Now we're going to go to break here
very shortly, and I want to get into the basics
of these nutritional complexes that are absolutely designed to rebuild
the heart. It takes a while to do the valves,

(12:03):
but the muscles can respond quickly. I'm doctor Jack Stockwell
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I'm doctor Jack stock Will at Forbidden doctor dot com
and just just please to punch that Doug will trust
me with this time on his program, to share the
experience the clinical experiences that I've had with more than
twenty thousand patients in the last thirty plus years for

(13:36):
a variety of problems, but more and more heart issues,
especially younger people. We have a device that we use
in the clinic called the Heart's Sound Recorder. It is
a little it's ouscultation. It's listening. It's like an electronic stethoscope,
and it sits over top of the four valves of

(13:58):
the heart and it registers in real time the efficiency
of the heartbeat as well as the efficiency of the valves,
in a sense that it can see weaknesses that an
EKG or an ECG can't see, electric cardiogram won't see.
And it's surprising to me when we do these scans

(14:20):
on teenagers that they're already showing signs of my cardio weakness.
So anyway, what I'm trying to do is to get
at the cause of these problems, and that you know,
try to turn a lifelong medical treatment into some temporary therapy.

(14:41):
I mean, after three to six months on good nutritional therapy,
most of the people we take care of are able
to start weaning off and eventually eliminating those heart medications that,
if you're on them long enough, will turn you into
what I call a cardiac invalid. If you only do
the basics, you can usually look forward to this kind

(15:04):
of phenomenon that good food choices will lead to better health.
I know that's mysterious, but it's true. Now the whole
nutritional complexes always work best with heart disease problems, and
these kinds of nutritional complexes are the only ones I've

(15:25):
ever found that really get the job done. I mean,
I've tested everything, I've been courted by every product manufacturer
in the world, and I could become very wealthy if
I were to recommend the junk that's available out there,
and it's produced for pennies and it's sold for megabucks.
And when it comes to cardiovascular disease, these basics are

(15:49):
indispensable and they have to be used by all patients
if they're planning to actually get better.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
These products are produced from whole, raw or organic foods
and plants, as well as some glandulars and organ extracts
which are extremely rich in nutrients. It's interesting when when
you look at the human body, well you look at
you look at the lions and the leopards of the serengetti,

(16:19):
and when they take down their prey, what do they eat.
They don't waste their time eating meat. They eat the organs.
They eat the heart, they eat the liver, they eat
the kidneys, they eat the adrenals, they eat the brains.
The meat, the muscle, meat that makes those their prey
run away from them is left for the hyenas, the baboons,

(16:44):
the scavengers, that's.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
What they eat.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
But the and why do they go after the organs,
Because that's where the nutrition is. When you consider how
much nutrition exists inside the heart muscle, or exists inside
the kit me as opposed to the your calf muscle
in your leg. Your calf muscle has an awful lot
of glycogen stored up in it, so that if you

(17:09):
have to run for your life, you've got plenty of
instant energy to make your muscles work. But it's the
organs that are full of nutrition. That's where the nutritionally
dense material is, especially the liver. Now we're going to
be going to break here shortly in a few moments,
and when I get back, I'm going to run through
some of the main things I tell my heart patience

(17:32):
and that I take even though I don't have heart problems.
I'm doctor Jack Stockwell at Forbidden Doctor dot com.

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I'm doctor jackstock Will at Forbidden doctor dot com. I'm
not a heart doctor. I'm not a cardiologist, not a
cardiac therapist. I'm not a cardiac lab lab technician. But
you don't have to be to study the heart. You
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(19:21):
then deeper and then more technical. And how do I
know that? Because I have patients who've done this. I
have patients who I will consult with on their first
visit and they're concerned about some aspect of their physiology
and they'll start talking about stuff I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Now, where did you get this?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Oh, you know what, the Cleveland Clinic or this website,
or we started reading these research journals. And I sit
there and I think, man, I never heard that twenty
years ago, but I hear it all the time now
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and the intricacies of what's involved, and they know that
needs something besides drugs. So that's why they come to

(20:03):
our clinic. Now, if you are driving this show you
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are sitting still listening to this, I would suggest you
grab a piece of paper and something to write down,

(20:24):
because I've got a list of a few products. This
is what I put by cardiac patients on in conjunction
with their cardiac medication from their cardiologists. We don't stop
anybody's medication. That's between my patient and their cardiac or
their heart dogner. But I've got a few things here

(20:45):
that are just you know, it's made by standard process.
They're available at forbiddendoctor dot com my website at a
cheaper price, mind you. But ever since their original formulation
in some cases this is eighty ninety almost one hundred
years ago. I mean, it's possible that they are the

(21:06):
only company to produce these kinds of products. There are
some knockoffs out there that have tried to duplicate them,
but they miss them by a mile. So the basics
for the heart is something called cardio plus, just like
it sounds c r dio plus. And then there's cataplex

(21:27):
c A t a plix, cataplex B core c O
r E B core, and then there's cyruteplus with a
C C y r U t A plus, syruteplus, cataplex
e two, something called Mintran mineral tranquilizer, Mintran and organically

(21:50):
bound minerals.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Now, the cardio plus.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Is the is the product that is supreme for most
people with cardiac fatigue or high blood pressure or heart
muscle weakness or muscle atrophy, or angina or congestive heart failure,
heart arrhythmias, heart spasms, heart valve problems, clogged arteries, and

(22:14):
for anyone who has had a heart attack. It's derived
from heart as well as several other things that are
known to feed the heart. When I tell a new patient,
the heart problems that you're having right now is not
because you didn't have enough metropolo or some calcium channel

(22:36):
blocker or some beta adrenergic drug or some potassium based
material in your bloodstream since you were born. You're having
heart problems now because simply of your heart starving of
the vital nutrition it has needed your whole life to

(22:57):
feed it and make it strong. Your heart isn't weak
because you're old. Your heart is weak because it's starving
to death. And what we're going to do is we're
going to feed it feeded vital nutritional materials so it
can rebuild itself, because if it's still beating, it can heal.

(23:18):
So that's what cardioplus is for now. It's made from
I mean, it contains really high selenium yeast, it whole food,
vitamin E and E synergists. It comes from what's called
beef chromatin, beetroot, raw raw sprouted grain, heart extract, phospholipids,

(23:43):
raw bone, buckwheat, alfalfa, mushroom, liver, rice brand, and just
several other things that are in there as well as
trace mineral activators, and virtually all heart patients should be
taking this. The only exception is if you are suffering
from severely low blood pressure. That would be the only

(24:05):
person who would not be benefited by taking cardioplus and
then the Cataplex B core. I mean, it's almost as
critical as cardioplus for most heart patients, and it's for
people who have arrhythmias and congestive heart failure and murmurs
and fibrillation, tacocardia, breyd acardia, low blood pressure, weak heart,

(24:28):
poor heart muscle tone, edema of the fluid collection around
the heart, fatigue, mental emotional problems like depression, anxiety, various neuropathies,
neuritous neuralgia. Because what is known as the vitamin for
the nervous system is the B vitamin family, and Cataplex

(24:49):
BCHRE does this. Its main ingredients are liver and yeast
and wheat, germ and beat juice, and adrenal extract and carrot.
You know, find any of this in heart medication, which
is why heart medication doesn't rebuild a heart. It stimulates
it to keep it going. But there's only so many

(25:11):
times you can beat that horse. Then there's syrutaplus C
y r U t A. It's for people with blood
vessel problems. It's clogged arteries, very easy bruising, ginger of
ittis just bleeding of the gums, viral infections, elevated sea

(25:32):
reactive protein in the blood, people who've had a stroke.
And it's made from buckwheat and buckwheat really isn't a
wheat product. We just call it buckwheat. It is the
premiere vitamin P and vitamin P are bioflavonoids. It's the
premiere vitamin P product, and it has whole food vitamin

(25:54):
C complex and adrenal extracts in it. And every patient
who's had a heart attack or a stroke or prone
to strokes should be using syrutaplus. Then there's cataplectx E
two and that's for people with angina of heart disease, cramps,
high blood pressure, restless leg syndrome, high blood fats. It's

(26:17):
made from Tlanzia a. It's an extract of a plant
that grows in cypress trees in the American South that
our pioneers and the medical people for the last two
to three hundred years and the American South know the

(26:38):
tea made from the Tlanzia root has a wonderful calming
effect on the heart.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
And it's for people with it's, as I said, for.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Especially heart cramps, angina, and it's made with adrenal spleen,
various different kinds of extracts. And it's interesting that scientists
are discovering that selenium deficiencies can turn infections deadly, including
blood vessel problems, even the flu. And the only selenium

(27:13):
that works is natural selenium that comes from yeast, and
that's the kind of selenium that's in this cataplexy too.
It actually reduces the hearts the need for oxygen. It's
the food equivalent of nitroglycerin. So I have my heart
patients carrying a little bottle of Cataplexy two in their

(27:33):
purse or their bag, so that if they ever start
to feel anything coming across their chest, they will pop
a few of these and then you don't get the
headache you get with nitroglycerin. But again I tell them
that only in light of your medical doctor being aware
of this, show them the ingredients he's not going to

(27:54):
have any problem with. And then both mentran and organically
bound minerals are proud of are just rich in calcium
and magnesium, and therefore people who have tachycardia with the
racing of their heart, arrhythmias, fibrillation, tremors, muscle fatigue, even
thybroid problems, insomnia, muscle cramps, menstrual cramps. Me Mintran is

(28:18):
made from calcium lactate which is which is a non
dairy product, and magnesium citrate and pacific seak help and
alfalfa just loaded with minerals and it's rich in calcium, magnesium, potassium.
Trace minerals contains more than forty trace elements on assay,

(28:38):
and organically bound minerals are similar to mentran, with a
lot of trace minerals and less calcium and magnesium, but
both of them have this broad array of minerals and
trace minerals, including calcium, magnesium, potassium, boron, beryllium, bismuth, cobalt, chromium, copper, lithium, manganese, molybdenum, phosphorus, sulfur, antimony, solem, silicon, thallium, vanadium, zinc.

(29:12):
Interestingly enough, your heart will not function correctly without selenium,
But all the selenium your body would need in an
entire lifetime would not fill a teaspoon. And that's why
it's a trace mineral because only the tiniest little bits

(29:33):
of these things are necessary to get the job done
inside the body because the body recycles this stuff. But
you're not going to find what I just read to
you in heart medication because that's not the design of
cardiology today to rebuild the heart. The design of cardiology

(29:54):
is to keep the heart beating with synthetic stimulation from
drugs now while they keep people alive who would otherwise
be dead. I mean, I'm very well aware of that.
What I try to get my heart patients to understand
is you don't have to stay on this because it's endless.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Otherwise.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
If we will put together a protocol or regimen to
start to rebuild the heart in time, when you do
your stress test or your echo cardiogram or whatever else
it is your heart doctor wants you to do, the
results will be better and better, necessitating less and less medication.

(30:40):
And I've got patients who get that, they finally understand that.
And then finally, with anybody with heart or blood vessel disease,
you should be getting at least a tablespoon of raw
flax oil or cod liver oil a day because it
will give the hearts the daily needs of vitamin F.

(31:00):
And this simple indispensable aid can work wonders even with
people with severe heart disease. Yet in today's hopelessly outdated
world of high tech medical heartcare, this remarkable nutrient is
rather rarely, if ever prescribed. Rather, it's often denied because

(31:25):
it's too high in fat and calories. In fact, without
this stuff, your heart would simply beat its last beat
and quit. So I'm going to be joining Doug here
in a few moments, and I invite you to listen
to the Doug Stefan Good Day Health Show podcasts, where
we are able to encapitulate a lot of the problem

(31:45):
or the things that we talk about on the health shows,
as well as mine at forbiddendoctor dot com under podcasts,
I'm doctor Jack Stockwell at forbiddendoctor dot com. I'll be
joining Doug in just a moment, don't go away.

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about ego. It's about experience, qualifications and what he does
to help people. As indook a chiropractor and a gaps practitioner.
His clinic is in Salt Lake City, Utah. Lots of

(33:27):
people go there from all around the state, all around
the region. I go to see him two or three
times a year as much as I can to have
my natural path of wellness corrected. And so with that
in mind, I'm going to ask you something that is personal,
but yet it is something that I'm betting a lot
of people go through when they have stress and strain.

(33:48):
I am not one who likes disruption, shall we say,
And I don't like confrontations, so it bothers me and
it gets the mind body connection gets to my body.
And I wonder, in fact, if a lot of your
patients are in the same fix, the things that they
that that manifest physically come from what goes on emotionally

(34:14):
or mentally with patients.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, yeah, the psychosomatic connection between the brain and the operation.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Of the body.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
A lot of people who suffer from constant stress have
constant high levels of cortisol and cortisol. While it is
designed to help the body through moments or periods of stress,
it's also immunosuppressive. The presence of cortisol in the bloodstream

(34:45):
higher than it should be, and it's in it's there
and not in there, and not during the day during
normal processes. But when it hangs around too long, it
suppresses your immune response, especially the white blood, your first
line of defense. So people who are under lots of stress,

(35:06):
lots of turmoil, whatever it is that's upsetting the apple
card usually tend towards more upper respiratory infections, sinus problems,
digestive problems, elimination problems, simply because of the cascading effect
of elevated cortisol in the system brought on by constant,

(35:28):
ongoing stress. And it could be emotional stress, stress it works,
stress in a relationship, stress with family, stress with neighbors,
your church, with any other humans, or stress that maybe
you have created in your own mind that may not
necessarily exist in reality. But sometimes we get caught up
in these stories where we get deeper and deeper to

(35:51):
the point and unreality becomes a reality and we're constantly
under this kind of stress. So yes, there's a very
strong relationship between your body trying to deal with it
perceives as reality, and the normal function of your tissues,
leaving you open to sickness.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Well it's something that people, I'm not sure always recognize though,
do you. I mean no, you're right.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, most people have no training in that. So they
start feeling a little ill or off of color or whatever,
and they run off to go get a pill. And
all that pill does is suppress or mitigate the symptom
to some degree, but it doesn't correct the underlying problem.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
So what about taking aspirin and going back to I've
thrown my hip out the window. I don't worry about
what utah. I hope that my experiences will help people.
So what I've been doing is taking aspirin.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I don't like taking aspirin.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
It doesn't hurt my stomach any but and it does
seem to I'm taking a leave and stuff like that,
which seems to calm down the headaches. And I can
remember this happening. I think when I first went to
see you. You probably don't remember that, but I remember
I was having the same sort of thing, and you

(37:06):
know you start worrying, Okay, what's the cause of this?
And it was the anxiety that was brought about by what?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
By the unknown factor?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
And yeah, so you know, all too often it's the
unknown factor. We get so wrapped up. Yeah, you know,
our personal turmoils that sometimes you can't see as they say,
the forest for the tree, orest.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
For the trees.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
But then getting stepping back and getting away from it, how.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Do that say that? See, that's it.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
You step back and you take a few deep breaths,
and you sit there and you figure out where's this
stuff coming from? What keeps showing up in front of
me day after day because I haven't taken care of
it yet? That I can take care of that will
lessen the stress on my nervous system.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Ah, But that's it.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Can you take care of it?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Is your mind able to?

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Who?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Can you flip a switch? Some people can, some absolutely don't.
That's the thing, all right. So there's some helpful information hopefully.
Jack Stockwell always has plenty of great information at forbiddendoctor
dot com.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
This program was produced at Bobksound and Recording.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Please visit Bobksound dot com.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
It's the good Day Health podcast with doctor Jack Stockwell,
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