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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jim paff is with us right now the Conservative Caucus,
and welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Never a dull moment. We've had a big week so far.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We had the debate, which I we'll talk about that
here in a little bit and what if anything difference
it will make in the days ahead. We have the
anniversary of September eleventh, and an interesting moment again with
President Trump meeting Kamala Harris. At one point they shake hands.
(00:29):
Biden's next to her, Bloomberg is in the middle, Schumer's
down the line, Jade vances with him.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Eric Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's a really interesting scene there and what all that
means and more. But there has never been a more
critical election. We're right in the middle of this, Jim,
I think, I know we say it every time it
rolls around, the most important election of our life, but
I think this really is. And it might even be
Talking to President Trump himself, he said, maybe even in
(00:57):
the history.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Of the nation. Well, if you want to know how
serious that is.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
And I've tried, in thirty years of handicapping politics, while
I work in campaigns and do the various things I've done,
I've tried to really resist. This is the most important
election and history thing. I really do believe it applies.
Just look at what's going on down in Brazil. They've
shut down x just by the order of some judge,
(01:23):
and they've been and of course Facebook and googling them,
they're complying. We are very close to that point. Why
do I say that, because it's already happening to a
certain degree. It's already growing here.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Because we know that from the Twitter files. We know
that from the Missouri v.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Biden case, which showed a bunch of subpoena information related
to Facebook that was saying the same things we learned
in the Twitter files.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The federal government has been.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Attempting to stop free speech in this country, utilizing willing
actors in our social media companies based here in the
United States for probably a full decade by now, and
you've got radical censorship happening with those organizations as well.
My friend Peter Schweitzer documented in a movie back in
(02:15):
twenty fourteen called The Creepy Line, where he showed specifically
how this is happening. So this has been building for
a long time. We're on the cusp of it. And
if Kamala Harris as president, she's absolutely shutting us all
down to the every extent that she can and as
aggressively as aggressively as she'll be allowed.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So let me ask you. I mean, because these are
very serious times, of very serious issues. And I will say, though,
even though they are right, the polling and some of
the things we've seen recently indicates that some people, at
least it feels like people are waking up. Mark Zuckerberg
coming out at metting that he was a part of
all this and didn't like that to me, says well,
(02:58):
maybe Mark knows something. Why would he come out and
say these things? If not, is there is there a
bit of are we hitting that tipping point? Are we
getting to that moment.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
In terms of the outcome of the election? I think so.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And even though the debate, the debate performance which we'll
talk about, wasn't the most exciting thing that I ever watched,
but except for his closing statement, which was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But what we are noticing through the polls is.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That people don't trust Kamala Harris. They don't trust her
on the changes that she's made in policy. For example,
the fracking his issue is maybe the most notable that
she said she was going to shut down all fracking.
She said it repeatedly and clearly in the past, and
now suddenly she says that she's not on board with that,
(03:51):
but she hasn't changed her values.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
People don't trust her. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Donald Trump's got to go close the deal. But there's
no doubt that even after the debate moment, miss still
and Donald Trump's favor if he can just keep the
message of the economy and the struggles that people are
going through directly because of Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden in
the forefront of his discussion.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, we talked about this the other day. But a
fantastic point with the closing I'll get into some of
the things that I noticed and maybe some of the
things that you noticed here in a second. But this
closing message, if people see anything from this debate, hopefully
it is this.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, he just started by saying, she's going to do this,
She's going to do that, She's going to do all
these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it. She's been
there for three and a half years. They've had three
and a half years to fix the border. They've had
three and a half years to create jobs, and all
the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That is a fantastic question. And you know, I'm watching
I'll know about you, Jim, but I'm watching some of
the uh, the panels that they've done CBSCNN did when
doctor phil of all people did, when they're talking to
these voters who have watched the debate and their reaction,
and I'm seeing a lot of these people independence undecided
that that that really that resonated with them. Not only that,
(05:16):
but they came to this debate looking for answers about
her policies and what she was going to do to
make things better. They're obviously feeling the pain she's gaslighting
them and uh and and I think there's a big
disconnect there with them.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What did what did you make about that? I agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What the only thing that democrats have to run on
the really the only thing that Kamala Harris has to
run on that even gets anywhere with voters is this
visceral issue about abortion. And she attempted to repeat it
last night, and it is a very visceral issue. And
to be candid and sadly, in my opinion, the pro
(05:58):
life causes is in the dec sendency in recent years
rather than the aceennidency, even with the Dobbs decision. In
terms of the minds of the general American public, the
polls show that people are not as pro life as
they used to be. Now that can easily change over time.
But I'm making that point to say that's all she
got to run on killing babies.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mean, that's it. We just want to be able
to kill babies.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The Routh Northam, governor of former governor of Virginia quote
where he was literally talking about the doctor and the
mother need to make their decision even after the baby's born,
whether they're going to keep it or not.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's infanticide. It's crazy. And she had no credible answer
to that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But this is what they believe they can use to
win because they believe it happened in twenty twenty two.
Other than that, there's nothing that she can discuss that
resonates with people.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And the January sixth thing that she brought up last
night that ain't gonna fly.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What Donald Trump said in his closing argument, especially right
there at the beginning, if he would just repeat it
over and over again, you said you were you said
you're going to do something. Let's just look at what
you did and you could never and you're going to
do the same thing and just keep that message pounding
over and over again. And it's a winning message.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If he can do it, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
We're going to watch polls, We're going to see how
things swing.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I watched it last night.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I thought she did well enough they may not ask
for another debate, that there may not be another debate.
But then they asked for one right out of the gate,
and Trump kind of said, like, well, I feel like
I won. I don't know that I really want another debate.
I'm going to have to consider that. Of course he'll
he'll probably do it. He can't back down from a fight.
But one of the things that we speak with a
(07:42):
guy that from Michigan here writes for the New York
Post and has his own podcast, and he made the
point he said, last the debate was more than anything,
another assassination, he said, a political assassination attempt. He said
they all came together, but he said they failed. They
brought everything they had and they only nicked his ear.
(08:04):
And I thought it was interesting. There's a very good
way to put it. He said, you know what, we
watched last night was him surviving. It's not that could
he win or did she win? But he survived. In boy,
that was really something. And more so, Jim, what do
you think about the mainstream media and ABC and the
moderators exposing themselves in ways that will be I just
(08:27):
disastrous to them in the future.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The American people see those obvious attempts to twist the
debate in a certain direction, and they do recognize that
ABC last night was attempting to set Kamala Harris up.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Listen, I tweeted out, I posted out on.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
X a statement that says they just went to abortion,
climate change, all these things and not even the economy.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Someone pointed out the very well, what are you talking about?
The very first question was the economy? Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It was on inflation, and they quickly moved the debate
in the direction that Kamala attempted to move it, and
they just went with her the rest of the way.
That was the design. But there's an interesting pole that
is out there. And just to give you a sense
of effect, CNN did a post debate pole even them,
where they showed that, oh, yeah, Kamala won, but they
(09:21):
had the numbers they have on the back end of
what the American people really think, at least based upon
their pole are this. Who do you think is going
to be able to handle something better? On the economy
Kamala Harris thirty five percent, Trump fifty five percent. On immigration,
Kamala Harris thirty three percent, Trump fifty six percent. On
protecting democracy whatever in the world that means. Okay, so
(09:44):
she hasn't edged forty nine to fifty, but being commander
in chief forty three percent Kamala Harris forty nine percent
Donald Trump, it's not penetrating. And so I would agree
with the analysis. They nickedhim in the I mean, yeah,
he did survive this. He didn't do himself any favors
(10:04):
because he did take the bait with her a few times,
and I was very disappointed by that personally. But the
reality is that the American people are not dumb. They
see when they're being played. They're slowing the uptakes sometimes
because they're just outliving their lives.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
They're not thinking about this all day long like you
and me.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But they do get it at the end of the day,
and they don't like it when people try to manipulate them.
If they feel that they're being manipulated, they will react
and in a negative.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Way against those making that attempt.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Jim Path The Conservative Caucus coming up. You guys have
a big, big anniversary. In fact, yeah, you knowvative.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The Conservative Caucus is the oldest conservative grassroots organization in
the country, founded by Howard Phillips in nineteen seventy four.
We're celebrating that in Northern Virginia and Leesburg, Virginia area
on October thirteenth, and Rudy Giuliani's.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Come to speak.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I actually have a lot of friends related to this
Brazil thing, and I may bring them to give people
an update on that.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Also. I'm still working that out.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't know yet, but people can go to Theconservative
Caucus dot org slash fifty gala to sign up, or
they can just go to the front page of the
website Theconservative Caucus dot org to find out more. If
that happened to be in the Northern Virginia area or
want to get there. It's going to be a hugely
excellent event and I think people would enjoy it if
(11:30):
they're interested in coming.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
We might have to have you back on and talk
about Brazil because what's happening there is Canary and the
coal mine and love to dig into that a little
bit more for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, I've got friends in the National Congress there. Through
my private efforts and also our efforts through the Conservative Caucus,
we've tried to put some light on that. We've had
a couple press conferences with members of their National Congress
who were up here talking to folks in DC.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And then I have.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Two very close friends is how I got involved in this.
Two very close friends, Alan Do Santos and Palo Figureedo
who had huge audiences and were literally just shut down
by the Supreme Court justice down there that shut down
X recently. This is a big issue. I got involved
in it very deeply. So I think it's an important
(12:22):
discussion we need to have because it's where we're going
if we don't stop it in its tracks right now.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, serious stuff. Jim path the Conservative Caucus and find
out more at the Conservativecaucus dot org. We'll put the
links up in the stack as well.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Thanks for taking the time to be here with us today, Jim,
great to be with you justin Thanks
Jim paff is with us right now the Conservative Caucus,
and welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Never a dull moment. We've had a big week so far.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We had the debate, which I we'll talk about that
here in a little bit and what if anything difference
it will make in the days ahead. We have the
anniversary of September eleventh, and an interesting moment again with
President Trump meeting Kamala Harris. At one point they shake hands.
(00:29):
Biden's next to her, Bloomberg is in the middle, Schumer's
down the line, Jade vances with him.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Eric Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's a really interesting scene there and what all that
means and more. But there has never been a more
critical election. We're right in the middle of this, Jim,
I think, I know we say it every time it
rolls around, the most important election of our life, but
I think this really is. And it might even be
Talking to President Trump himself, he said, maybe even in
(00:57):
the history.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Of the nation. Well, if you want to know how
serious that is.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
And I've tried, in thirty years of handicapping politics, while
I work in campaigns and do the various things I've done,
I've tried to really resist. This is the most important
election and history thing. I really do believe it applies.
Just look at what's going on down in Brazil. They've
shut down x just by the order of some judge,
(01:23):
and they've been and of course Facebook and googling them,
they're complying. We are very close to that point. Why
do I say that, because it's already happening to a
certain degree. It's already growing here.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Because we know that from the Twitter files. We know
that from the Missouri v.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Biden case, which showed a bunch of subpoena information related
to Facebook that was saying the same things we learned
in the Twitter files.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The federal government has been.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Attempting to stop free speech in this country, utilizing willing
actors in our social media companies based here in the
United States for probably a full decade by now, and
you've got radical censorship happening with those organizations as well.
My friend Peter Schweitzer documented in a movie back in
(02:15):
twenty fourteen called The Creepy Line, where he showed specifically
how this is happening. So this has been building for
a long time. We're on the cusp of it. And
if Kamala Harris as president, she's absolutely shutting us all
down to the every extent that she can and as
aggressively as aggressively as she'll be allowed.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So let me ask you. I mean, because these are
very serious times, of very serious issues. And I will say, though,
even though they are right, the polling and some of
the things we've seen recently indicates that some people, at
least it feels like people are waking up. Mark Zuckerberg
coming out at metting that he was a part of
all this and didn't like that to me, says well,
(02:58):
maybe Mark knows something. Why would he come out and
say these things? If not, is there is there a
bit of are we hitting that tipping point? Are we
getting to that moment.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
In terms of the outcome of the election? I think so.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And even though the debate, the debate performance which we'll
talk about, wasn't the most exciting thing that I ever watched,
but except for his closing statement, which was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
But what we are noticing through the polls is.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That people don't trust Kamala Harris. They don't trust her
on the changes that she's made in policy. For example,
the fracking his issue is maybe the most notable that
she said she was going to shut down all fracking.
She said it repeatedly and clearly in the past, and
now suddenly she says that she's not on board with that,
(03:51):
but she hasn't changed her values.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
People don't trust her. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Donald Trump's got to go close the deal. But there's
no doubt that even after the debate moment, miss still
and Donald Trump's favor if he can just keep the
message of the economy and the struggles that people are
going through directly because of Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden in
the forefront of his discussion.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, we talked about this the other day. But a
fantastic point with the closing I'll get into some of
the things that I noticed and maybe some of the
things that you noticed here in a second. But this
closing message, if people see anything from this debate, hopefully
it is this.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, he just started by saying, she's going to do this,
She's going to do that, She's going to do all
these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it. She's been
there for three and a half years. They've had three
and a half years to fix the border. They've had
three and a half years to create jobs, and all
the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That is a fantastic question. And you know, I'm watching
I'll know about you, Jim, but I'm watching some of
the uh, the panels that they've done CBSCNN did when
doctor phil of all people did, when they're talking to
these voters who have watched the debate and their reaction,
and I'm seeing a lot of these people independence undecided
that that that really that resonated with them. Not only that,
(05:16):
but they came to this debate looking for answers about
her policies and what she was going to do to
make things better. They're obviously feeling the pain she's gaslighting
them and uh and and I think there's a big
disconnect there with them.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What did what did you make about that? I agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What the only thing that democrats have to run on
the really the only thing that Kamala Harris has to
run on that even gets anywhere with voters is this
visceral issue about abortion. And she attempted to repeat it
last night, and it is a very visceral issue. And
to be candid and sadly, in my opinion, the pro
(05:58):
life causes is in the dec sendency in recent years
rather than the aceennidency, even with the Dobbs decision. In
terms of the minds of the general American public, the
polls show that people are not as pro life as
they used to be. Now that can easily change over time.
But I'm making that point to say that's all she
got to run on killing babies.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mean, that's it. We just want to be able
to kill babies.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The Routh Northam, governor of former governor of Virginia quote
where he was literally talking about the doctor and the
mother need to make their decision even after the baby's born,
whether they're going to keep it or not.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's infanticide. It's crazy. And she had no credible answer
to that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But this is what they believe they can use to
win because they believe it happened in twenty twenty two.
Other than that, there's nothing that she can discuss that
resonates with people.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And the January sixth thing that she brought up last
night that ain't gonna fly.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What Donald Trump said in his closing argument, especially right
there at the beginning, if he would just repeat it
over and over again, you said you were you said
you're going to do something. Let's just look at what
you did and you could never and you're going to
do the same thing and just keep that message pounding
over and over again. And it's a winning message.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If he can do it, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
We're going to watch polls, We're going to see how
things swing.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I watched it last night.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I thought she did well enough they may not ask
for another debate, that there may not be another debate.
But then they asked for one right out of the gate,
and Trump kind of said, like, well, I feel like
I won. I don't know that I really want another debate.
I'm going to have to consider that. Of course he'll
he'll probably do it. He can't back down from a fight.
But one of the things that we speak with a
(07:42):
guy that from Michigan here writes for the New York
Post and has his own podcast, and he made the
point he said, last the debate was more than anything,
another assassination, he said, a political assassination attempt. He said
they all came together, but he said they failed. They
brought everything they had and they only nicked his ear.
(08:04):
And I thought it was interesting. There's a very good
way to put it. He said, you know what, we
watched last night was him surviving. It's not that could
he win or did she win? But he survived. In boy,
that was really something. And more so, Jim, what do
you think about the mainstream media and ABC and the
moderators exposing themselves in ways that will be I just
(08:27):
disastrous to them in the future.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The American people see those obvious attempts to twist the
debate in a certain direction, and they do recognize that
ABC last night was attempting to set Kamala Harris up.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Listen, I tweeted out, I posted out on.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
X a statement that says they just went to abortion,
climate change, all these things and not even the economy.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Someone pointed out the very well, what are you talking about?
The very first question was the economy? Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It was on inflation, and they quickly moved the debate
in the direction that Kamala attempted to move it, and
they just went with her the rest of the way.
That was the design. But there's an interesting pole that
is out there. And just to give you a sense
of effect, CNN did a post debate pole even them,
where they showed that, oh, yeah, Kamala won, but they
(09:21):
had the numbers they have on the back end of
what the American people really think, at least based upon
their pole are this. Who do you think is going
to be able to handle something better? On the economy
Kamala Harris thirty five percent, Trump fifty five percent. On immigration,
Kamala Harris thirty three percent, Trump fifty six percent. On
protecting democracy whatever in the world that means. Okay, so
(09:44):
she hasn't edged forty nine to fifty, but being commander
in chief forty three percent Kamala Harris forty nine percent
Donald Trump, it's not penetrating. And so I would agree
with the analysis. They nickedhim in the I mean, yeah,
he did survive this. He didn't do himself any favors
(10:04):
because he did take the bait with her a few times,
and I was very disappointed by that personally. But the
reality is that the American people are not dumb. They
see when they're being played. They're slowing the uptakes sometimes
because they're just outliving their lives.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
They're not thinking about this all day long like you
and me.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But they do get it at the end of the day,
and they don't like it when people try to manipulate them.
If they feel that they're being manipulated, they will react
and in a negative.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Way against those making that attempt.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Jim Path The Conservative Caucus coming up. You guys have
a big, big anniversary. In fact, yeah, you knowvative.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The Conservative Caucus is the oldest conservative grassroots organization in
the country, founded by Howard Phillips in nineteen seventy four.
We're celebrating that in Northern Virginia and Leesburg, Virginia area
on October thirteenth, and Rudy Giuliani's.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Come to speak.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I actually have a lot of friends related to this
Brazil thing, and I may bring them to give people
an update on that.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Also. I'm still working that out.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't know yet, but people can go to Theconservative
Caucus dot org slash fifty gala to sign up, or
they can just go to the front page of the
website Theconservative Caucus dot org to find out more. If
that happened to be in the Northern Virginia area or
want to get there. It's going to be a hugely
excellent event and I think people would enjoy it if
(11:30):
they're interested in coming.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
We might have to have you back on and talk
about Brazil because what's happening there is Canary and the
coal mine and love to dig into that a little
bit more for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, I've got friends in the National Congress there. Through
my private efforts and also our efforts through the Conservative Caucus,
we've tried to put some light on that. We've had
a couple press conferences with members of their National Congress
who were up here talking to folks in DC.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And then I have.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Two very close friends is how I got involved in this.
Two very close friends, Alan Do Santos and Palo Figureedo
who had huge audiences and were literally just shut down
by the Supreme Court justice down there that shut down
X recently. This is a big issue. I got involved
in it very deeply. So I think it's an important
(12:22):
discussion we need to have because it's where we're going
if we don't stop it in its tracks right now.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, serious stuff. Jim path the Conservative Caucus and find
out more at the Conservativecaucus dot org. We'll put the
links up in the stack as well.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Thanks for taking the time to be here with us today, Jim,
great to be with you justin Thanks
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