Final Fantasy XVI Rising Tide New Info, Larian Drops Baldur's Gate Franchise # 390

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You are listening to Video Games tothe Max. Hello, and welcome to
another edition of Video Games to theMax. I'm your host Sean Garman here
with me as usual mister Mark MorrisonHoday, and this is episode three hundred
and ninety of the show, gettingclose to that four hundred and Well,
we have plenty to talk about becausethis is a big week in gaming.

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Unfortunately, we won't be talking aboutthe three new releases that came out today,
but we'll get to those, hopefullyat least Princess Peach. I'm still
mulling it over, so might havethat to talk about. I don't know
if Mark's gonna get some surprise orU Coffy for one of the two games
or something. Yes, there isother stuff going on. There was Pax
East going on, which in fact, just before we started recording, they

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just did the fum Fintay sixteen tiedDLC panels, So I'll talk about some
of the stuff that they showed inthat, which looks pretty cool. They
released a couple of trailers too,and you got GDC that happened this week
as all. Well, so youhad the GDC Awards and some point of
comments made by Spendvenky again from youknow, Larry and Studios, and also

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Larry and Studios is not going tobe doing anything else with Balder's Gate.
They're going to be doing their ownthing, so we'll get into that.
Lots more news happening on this show, so we'll have plenty to talk about
here, so if we can fitit all into the timeframe, but we'll
get into all that and more,all right, so let's quickly get this

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So let's do something a little bitdifferent here. We've been doing our
games and I did finish from onFantasy seven Reaver, but we talked about

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that a lot last week. Idon't really know how much more I have
to say. I finished it again. Yeah you have. You had to
finish it again? Yeah, becauseyou uh, just to Sorry, I
don't mean to interview with this,but just in case for people that are
watching this and don't know, ifyou beat the game, make sure you
do a manual save. Do notjust get to the ending and shut it

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off, or you'll get like whathappened to Mark, where it will not
save your progress and you will haveto redo the ending again the all the
ten battles, So make sure youdo say but what I'll give my thoughts,
I guess without trying to spoil withthe ending, because we are going
to do a spoiler cast with somefolks, so plus I know people are

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there's a lot of people that aren'teven any close to where we were or
we are in the game. I'mabout halfway through my review. I'm not
sure where you are with yours.Mark, You're submitted, okay. I've
been like sitting there click and everyday to see if he roach yours or
not. Oh yeah, I wroteit, but yeah, it's just waiting.
But all right, let's get goingwith some news here. I'll leave

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the Rising Tide stuff for in ain a little bit, just because I
know that's gonna bug Mark because heis not a big fan of Fall Fantasy
sixteen. In fact, he toldme before we started recording that he just
sold his copy, so he willnot be playing the new dellc you on
that. It'll just be me talkingabout it, I guess. Uh.
So let's start with something else here, just because I've had a whole day

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to mow on this, so myraw reactionary thoughts. I'm glad we didn't
do the We aren't recording an episodeat eleven o'clock at night on a Thursday.
So you know, one of thebiggest games of that's gonna come out
this year, Dragon's Takamba two releasedtoday for people you're probably not even watching
this because you're playing the game.So with that said, you know,

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it's getting a lot of glowing praise. People are talking about it about the
you know, being just as greatas Elder Ring even you know, one
of the the the game of theyear for the year release, and yeah
that's hyperbole because well, you knowwhatever scores are lower, so well,
yeah, sure, but I'm talkingabout just it seems like it is getting

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that type of praise, like whatit does for you know, the open
world environments and how fighting battling iswhere it seems like dynamically you'll just be
fighting one thing and another thing justswoops in and decides to make itself known
and then you have to deal withthat. And the pawn system, which
yeah, a lot of that stuffwas in the original game. That's I

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can't believe we're talking about what teneleven year old, twelve year old game
at this point. So, butthey basically kind of did a I saw
someone in the review compared to likeEvil Dead two. I'm sure there's a
game that does the same thing thatI can't think about right now, where
they basically took thus a lot ofthe stuff from the first game and then

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just put it into this game,and even though it's called Dragon's Dogma two,
it really feels like it's just Dragon'sDogma but the best version of it.
Yeah, I guess you could dothat. But yeah, the main
part is that dot Com, Iguess, to avoid causing friction with the
reviews coming out and everything else,and obviously molding the whole launch of the

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game from what they know is goingto draw attention, right, Uh,
They they dropped microtransaction, which Capcomhas in every single game that they release,
especially the newer ones. You know, all the Resident Evals, Monster
Hunters, all that stuff. Theyall have micro transactions to if you want
to make the game easier for yourself, you can decide to pay right.

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A lot was made of the Theywanted to make this known that that fast
travel was not going to be veryeasily accessible for you. You were going
to have to walk everywhere. Theywanted you to explore the world right so
you can engage with its elements.One of the things that kind of came
under fire, and I was upsetabout this at first until I was able

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to read more on it and getmore research, is that there's these crystals
that you can get that you canbuy or there's about like six or seven
that will show up at some pointin the world. They're not like something
so this it's not meant to makeit to where. Oh like, let's
say the example of Rebirth right,where they have fast travel. It's one

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of the most user friendly fast travelthings, like everything is there for you
to fast travel on. This gameis a complete opposite. Uh well,
I don't know how much interest youhave in this game, Mark, but
where do you stand on this wholemixed I guess. I mean, if
I got it, i'd play it, but not like behind it, I
don't know they can. I mean, look at like Forestart Horizon. That's

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what I brought up last night.It is like they have fast travel they
have to pay for in game right, it can buy the stupid map.
I mean they have the system whereyou can like hunt down all the billboards
and every billboardy smash that like lowersthe cost by one percent. But I
don't think it gets I don't thinkit out and gets you to free anymore.
And we only get to fifty percentright where it can just buy the

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stupid map or buy the ability tofast travel without consequence like for like five
bucks or something or two I don'tknow what the price is. So it's
just I mean, it's annoying.I think there is a way. I
don't think you can like grind itout, but I think you can get
like a few of the jewels oryou know, whatever item you need to
fast travel. But it's like youget like by like three or four.

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You know, it's not like somehuge amount, right, mainly because they
don't at the end of the day, they don't want you to turn this
into one of the other open worldgames where you can fast travel everywhere,
And even then you still have totravel to the town by foot or whatever
to actually put the crystal there.So it's not like you're just not even

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having to engage with what it wantsyou to do. You're still having to
perform some of the actions that youdon't want to do to be able to
use the crystal. So it almostkind of in some of us, is
you not to buy it in away, right. Also you have to
wonder, like I wonder, likeis the quest design of the game,
like does it need fast travel?It's it seems like it's not. It's

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meant for you to like your marketing, your path through and you're in counter
things. Well, no, it'smore like okay, like I think about,
oh, what is that game BladesVomb or Kingdom to vomor Yes,
not Blaze, but yeah, likethat game had a really wonky quest system,
like you got like a quest prettyearly on, or it's like go
collect these twelve books in the world. It's like one of these books is

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like right near the end game castleor you know, like the boss castle
at the end of the game.It's like that's nuts. Like, but
if all the quests and like Dragon'sDogma two are like, oh it's in
this like you go to a townand you got like four side quest or
four quest to do, and it'sall like local lives around this town area.

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It's not like, oh, yougot a quest in this one town
you have to go you have togo across the continent to actually complete it.
It's like, no, that's screwedup then. But if it's all
these quests are in a fairly localenvironment, like go at it, You're
like all right, fine, ye, Like can you imagine during the fact.
Can you imagine like in Rebirth ifyou had to do Queen's Blood to

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that fast travel. It's like,okay, the first four or five towns,
like they all have like the youknow, the Queen's Blood players there
pretty much. But I'm like,oh, no, go back now.
It's go back to the grasslands orgo back to gold Saucer because I got
to you know, face this otherguy there or something like that. You're
like, I wouldn't do that atall. Technically, isn't seamless open world

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like Capcum like dragons, so soyou tendically couldn't even if they did.
But yeah, I get what youmean, Like, yeah, oh man,
if I'm all the way on theother side of the map and then
I have to go to where youstart the game, basically all the way
over there and I have no wayto fast shovel, Yeah, I could

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see how that's annoying for people.And I see the point that people are
making right of. There's a lotof people that are going to buy this
game that have no you know,weren't around, did not play games when
the first one came out, haveno idea there was a first one,
even though it says two. Yeah, but like they're not going to go

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and buy the first one because ofthis game, right, Like it's not
it's not a it's not a storybased thing like remake to Rebirth, which
we'll talk about. Like why I'msaying that because of you know, the
Circono report came out and it reallyshows that that story stuff kind of matters
for people. But what I'm sayingis like you're really doing this for the

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gameplay, the set, those kindof things, right, the that medieval
setting, that kind of thing isgoing to draw people in, right,
So you're gonna get people that areused to playing open world games where oh
I am locked a tower, it'snow a fast travel point. I can
now go over here. Oh thequest is over here. Let me let
me go over here. Like youcan't do that. You literally have to

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walk wherever you go. They don'thave like these vehicles you can use and
all that stuff. Either. It'sit's really meant for you to traverse the
world and feel like you're on thisjourney. If that's it, fine,
Like I think people who are expecting, like you know, expecting fast travel
or you know, domain like you'resoft or it's like okay, yeah we

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go return the game, or youknow, you don't have to play.
Yeah, like you don't like Yeah, and the people that are attacking people
that you know, did stuff forthe game or did reviews. Uh,
it seems kind of stupid, right, Like they have nothing to do with
why Capcom decided to do this stuff, So don't go right. Yeah,

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to be fair, cav found didtell reviewers that this was going to be
in there. The problem is thatthey kind of also put it in there
at the same time. Yeah.Well, not only that, it's the
thing is, like they it wasn'tin the stuff. That's folly. Like
you know a lot of times youwon't look at a review guy because it
spoils you. But you know,the thing is, hey, some people

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knew about it, some people didn't. They didn't talk about it when it
has to do with the review becausemaybe they don't care. They're never going
to buy any of the micro transactions. They didn't need it to progress.
They wasn't there when they were reviewingthe game. They made this available the
day the game launched, right,So yeah, customers, consumers, gamers,
you're going to notice this stuff,right because it's there when you first

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start the game. If you're playingit on the twenty second but this happens
a lot when you get early reviewcops and stuff. You're not going to
see things. There's things that arenot going to happen right when you're playing
it and you're one of like let'ssay, one hundred people playing or fifty
people playing. It's different when everybodystarts playing and you start noticing more things.

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More people are around to notice things, right, We like a lot
of the time that like, ah, there's a Day one patch and then
that's when they had all the microtransactions again like Foresta did that, so
so so I don't know, peopleare getting like upset over essentially nonsense.
Look at like the Tails games likethey're shot full of crap. Yeah,

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just just wanted to like, yeah, the Tail stuff is like even more
more worse because it's like all singleuse stuff. Oh no, yeah for
sure, Like that stuff is justit's insane to me that we're sitting here
having this combo about people getting madabout something that's been in every single one
of Capcon's games, Like I getit again their predatory and well what this

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could do for people that aren't usedto these kind of games and they buy
it and then they see that oh, I can buy this fast travel thing.
Yeah, I couldn't get people intobuy and buying these things that necessarily
if they knew about it or knewmore about the series and how it operates,
may not fall for it. Maybe, But people also have access to

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the same Internet that everybody else does. Right, You can research the game
before you buy it, and youcan figure out what's there and what's not.
If you decide to blindly buy agame and then you don't realize that
it doesn't have the fast travel you'reaccustomed to in other open world games,
you know, then oh well that'son you. That's on you at the

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end of the day. Like it'sagain, the YouTuber can only do or
the reviewer can only deal with thestuff that they have, right, So
don't don't go after them for nothaving that available to them when they were
reviewing the game. It comes outafter the reviews over, they all see
they don't have they're not getting paidby Capcom, they have no was it.

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They don't owe you anything to redotheir video, which takes a ton
of time to put in one littlething about oh yeah, there's micro transaction
in the game. It's not aseasy as somebody redoing their review that they
wrote and put in at the top. Oh yeah, there's micro transactions.
It's a whole different, whole differentthing. So I think, you know,
we shouldn't be sitting here getting allpissy about that stuff. But anyway,

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there's other other news to discuss herealong with that. Also, Catcom
was a Metacritics' best reviewed publisher ofall last year, So take that for
what you will. You can complainall you want, but people are obviously
playing Catcom's games regardless of whether thisthere's micro transactions or not. Well,

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I think the reason is, likeCapcom still puts out It's not a huge
amount compared to like previous you know, generations, but they still put pretty
decent clip of games. They putout decent clip They don't put out as
many as some other people, likeyou know, Nintendo puts out a lot
more, and they are actually kindof lower on the list, even though
they have some of the greatest gamesthat came out last year, like Zelda.

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So you know, it's about likequality. They put out quality stuff
for the stuff that they do putout, and they've even said it themselves,
like they care more about making sureyou get good medic critics store more
than they care about getting other kindsof plaudits or whatever. So it depends

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on how you design your games andpeople going out and buy them, so
that's good for them. Uh justI guess to talk about this because we
talked about Sony's PlayStation stuff with thePS five pro last week. They have
now given more details from Digital Foundry. By the way, also that the

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DRE their own version of like Nvidia'sDLSS, is going to be able to
take ten ADP games and upscale themto convincing looking four K. It won't
be the same thing like what Microsoftdoes with their old games, where the
Xbox literally you put in any oldgame and automatically looks better, but developers

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will have a way they don't haveto do. They still have to do
a patch, but it's not likethis, oh my god, I gotta
spend a bunch of time updating theentire game. They can do a smaller
patch that adds in the DSS sothat the game can look better yea,
automatically without having to really really doa big update for it. For the

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PS five pro peature, So itkind of gives you an incentive if you
really like for all your games tolook better, and you have again,
like I said last week, theTV for it. It is a good
incentive to get people to the system. Yeah, yeah, we talked about
this, so I don't know thatwe need to like go over it again.

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I swear I thought I've had aquestion that I said I was going
to ask and then I completely forgotabout it again when we were going to
talk about this. But hey,it's good. It's good that they're adding
this, and it is backwards compatibleas well, so like potentially they could
just drop this in for the PlayStationsix as what good you know in there,

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so it's something that you'll kind ofget used to seeing and then maybe
even with PlayStation six, it'll makeit look even better when we get to
that part of it too. Sohey, good that they keep adding incentives
to the PlayStation five pro. Doyou think that the I've seen a lot

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of rumors saying that they may notuprice this as much as as much as
you think. Do you think theycould actually have this come out at like
five point fifty or something like that. No, it'll be at least if
it comes out, it'll be atleast six hundred. Yeah, that's what
I would think too, But Iwouldn't be surprise because they've kind of said
they're not gonna do these price dipsthat lack a permanent price dip anyway,

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They'll do sales, right, butthey're not gonna do this. Have the
base PlayStation five four hundred dollars andthen all of a sudden, the PS
five pro is gonna be five hundred. Yeah, I mean maybe they would,
but it feels like what they're basingthis off is like, okay,
we we did one hundred dollars incrementsright the the the digital was four hundred.

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This one's five hundred. Maybe theycould take off some of the price
if say they have a skew whereyou have to get the disk drive separate,
so they could drop it to theycould drop it to five fifty that
way, where oh, this onedoesn't have to disk drive, right.
But we'll see us when when itcomes to that. Obviously, it's supposed

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it's gonna release this year, butthey still have a lot of times to
really give the details. And obviouslynone of this has been done by Sony
itself. This is all rumors andstuff that comes out from people that have
like dev kids and things like that. So the I guess more, I
guess the newer news that's out therefrom this week is that Position VR two

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has halted production. Basically their claimingit is due to overstock, right that
they have they have units that arenot selling at stores, so they're not
gonna keep producing stuff if they can'tget the ones that are out there to
sell. What do you think thisis? They're making a big deal about
the first farty support, but whatdo you think is the the reason it's
not selling. I don't think it'sactually still I don't. I don't think

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it's in stores to sell, likethey're whole weird. We're alwa saying this
online and the like for the firsttwo months and then we're gonna slowly trickle
out the store. I think thatwas a bad business decision, right,
But not every store is gonna stockthis thing, right, Like you know,
I could see like a stop orthe big store, like the Big

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I mean, okay, Walmart mightnot, even though they actually just stock
Oculus stuff, but like Best Buyand game Stock. Danner Ganner sure would
especially was like, Okay, we'renot gonna stock We're not gonna stock p
S five. We're not gonna solconsoles. It's okay, we'll take the
stupid VR headset then, you know. Right. The other problem is like,

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you know, okay, yeah,their first party lineup is garbage,
but yo, dog, the VRlandscape is also a garbage at the moment.
So well, a lot of peopleare still buying the med Quest two
and three right at the ease ofuse the not no, not really like
it's not like, I mean,I think didn't Oculus lay up a bunch

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of people like last year because ofwell, they're not as selling as much
as they were at one point,but they're still selling way more than what
the psc R two is selling.Yeah, that's a consequence of the Oculus
is actually in stores. And it'salso you know, self or self design.

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You don't need to own a PSfive, right, it's all self
contained in the headset, so right, And it's also cheaper. Yeah that's
the thing. This thing is fivehundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, you
have to own a PS five tohave it. Even if they I don't
know how they're going to make thiswork a PC, I guess you don't.
The PC will be the conduit insteadof the PS five. But this

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is not I don't know how muchmore life is going that's going to give
that other than people that already ownother VR. Yeah, you know,
yeah, it's a great I canload up you know, beat Saber on
skim VR. You know. Yeah, it's something that VR definitely has its
niche, right, could it grow? Maybe that's the problem is it's like

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it's still a I think VR,you know, five years ago was way
bigger than it is now, right, So yeah, like I think at
a certain point I was on theprecipice of becoming mainstream, but now it's
way more of a niche thing thanit ever was, or you know,
since it came came about. Reallyyeah, I mean I've seen a lot

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of a lot of parents are buyingthat for their kids because it let some
kind of be in in that worldand you don't have to buy a console
and you're not uh stuck having thiscontroller that you're you're you're having the controller,
but there's stuff that moves around withyour hands and and things like that.
Like I just saw, you know, I just talked about him,

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Buddy Mark Rathi's playing with his sonone of the VR things, you know,
So like I think it's one ofthose things where it definitely has an
audience, but it's not going tobe the PlayStation one. It's also still
connected by a wire like that matters, the fact that I still have to
have this thing pulling me when ourcontrollers are wireless. Now, like there's

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so many things that are wireless thatit just I get it. They would
have cost more to have perhaps awireless unit or whatever. But it's like
you're behind the times already. Whenthis thing comes out. It may have
the amazing specs or whatever, butthat that hurts it. And then also
it's great that third party is producinga lot of stuff, but it matters
that you've only released like three thirdparty things. Call them out and is

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fine as a launch title whatever.I don't know how many people that really
hooked in, but fine, grandUrismo V are having its own mode.
That's cool whatever, and ybody youcould get it with Grand Turismo okay,
cool. The other one is whatFirewall Ultra, and that thing got a
bad you know, the critic ratingsfor that is are terrible. So like,
somebody's not releasing a bunch of stufffor this system and people just aren't

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buying it. They're just not releasingit. So no, not helping itself.
It's it's their like playbook. Likelook at the Vita almost to an
extent, look at PSVR one.Yeah well VR one at least sold.
Yeah, well I'd hope that theyhad that Black Friday cell which got both
of us to buy it. Andyeah, I had bundles, but it

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had like much more of a softwarelike library, or at least software library
than this thing. So yeah,I keep saying if that you know,
astrobot might help if that that doescome out. But if the astrobat comes
out and it's like some amazing likemy six to four level platform or you
know, like as far as likegenerational Leap or something, that'd be cool,

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but it ain't gonna sell you know, two million more of these things
or anything like that. You know, right, it's probably not you know,
I think what they're they're probably thinkingis, you know, we'll quietly
support the VR two for like thenext two or three more years. We're
not gonna make any games for it. But you know, if someone else
wants to go ahead, but Ithink you should just support the whatever the

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hell that like their streaming console thingis because they can't keep that thing on
shelves. So the well that likethat like android thing they got. Okay,
yeah, I understand what you're saying. Yeah, it's just it's one
of these things where just I thinkwe need to realize that. I think

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even Sony realize that it's just alot of market things are not coming together
for this. A lot of peoplebought the portal. Yeah, yeah,
like they can't keep that thing onshelves or if they do, because it
makes sense, it makes sense,like people want portable gaming things. The
switches still selling, even though everybodyknows that basically this is the last year

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now this Nintendo has basically done everythingbut say it themselves, and they're still
selling and and people are selling buyingthe portal because it's great to allow you
to not be stuck in the room, but I can still play my games,
and that's what people want. Theywant ease abuse, they want convenience
VR without having the wireless thing,and then also making you have to buy

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a PS five to have it.Is it's different to pay for a two
hundred dollars thing that it's an accessrate to my PS five. That makes
it the record. You have PSfive games, They tell me I got
to pay the same price that justpay for this PS five actually more to
buy a game for it and haveit, and then it's stuck to the
freaking TV. No, Like ifI could sit on the couch next to

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somebody watching TV and play and nothave to be stuck in the room,
maybe it makes a difference, right, But it's like I don't know.
Yeah, I think, yeah,go ahead, I think that. Yeah,
they expected be to be like obviouslydo better than it is, but
I still like you are. TheP S g R T is on the

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level of like the second Saturn releasingway back in the day. Like I'm
just going up on stage and go, it's out now. It's like,
what like any coming about in KBToys. It's like that's the thing that
doomed that system from the get go. Well not so much. The Kboy
KB Toys and all the other retoursare pissed because they all of a sudden
had to be selling that, yeah, you know, and they had a

(30:30):
marketing, they had a marketing,release date and everything for it, and
it's like, wait a minute,you're gonna have all these people run to
the fucking mall right now and tryto buy this thing, Like that's insane.
What do you do with it?You know? Yeah, but yeah,
it it's just it's just something thatI think people just got to realize
that, I don't know, thisis not going to help Sony wanting to

(30:52):
do more with it, and infact, they're probably gonna do less.
If they had any plans to dometing with it, they might they might
have just really shut those down,right, Yeah, like without What would
be cool to me somehow is thatthey could do like a I wouldn't say
combat, but if they could dolike a VR mode for Spider Man two.
Yeah, you know, that'd belike a very cool with the same

(31:17):
graphical fidelity Spider Man two. Butlike you know, having that type of
like freedom, like that'd be avery cool experience to me. Yeah,
I mean I think they definitely haveto figure out the whole. I don't
know, people get nauseous or whatever, but yeah, figure that out.
But then going like hey there's Mossthree, it's like great, Yeah,
like you know, I mean that'sthe thing too, is like Moss was

(31:40):
cool the first time. Yeah,right after that, it's kind of like
Okay, cool, I really likeMoss or whatever, but I don't know
if that's like the only I thinkit's the only big VR franchise, and
it's not even theirs, it's it'sa third party, you know. Yeah,
yeah, come up to like Oculistand the Vibe and stuff like that.
So yeah yeah, so yeah,moving on from that there. So

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Sony they released, and I meanthat that's why there's rumors more of them
making another portable type thing than thereis anything to do with VR, because
again, like that portable stuff iswhat's in right now, especially for Japan,
Like they just released the sales numbersfor everything from February, and a

(32:28):
lot of the stuff that because it'snot on switch isn't selling that well because
they don't do a lot of stuffwith consoles. So a way to get
that market is to try to dosomething with portable and it's definitely not going
to be with VR. So right, well, speaking of somebody they used
to work with Sony, Amy Henningis she's you know there at this sky

(32:52):
Dance New Media now working on thatCaptain America Black Panther game, which they
actually showed off off as part ofthe Unreal Engine showcase of GDC, and
my god, did the graphics onthis thing look amazing. There's a trailer
which I don't know if I wantto show because sometimes Marble stuff gets us,

(33:14):
get you copyright strength, but theyhave an insane looking even though Captain
America kind of looks like the fakeCaptain America from the Falcon and Winter Soldier
show on that thing. Yeah,I'm not I'm not knocking that. I'm
saying that's what he looks like becauseit's not Chris Evans, so it just

(33:37):
kind of he looks like that.The Black Panther looks awesome, but obviously
mc Black Panther and still like thegraphic fidelity in that looks amazing, you
know. Yea, So it's justkind of incredible that people complain about,
oh man, games are costed toomuch, but here's this basically like movie

(34:00):
studio company making a game and itlooks freaking amazing. H So, you
know, and and it looks likethe story is going to be interesting,
so I would say, I hopethis is good. Yeah, I mean,
most Marvel stuff, at least whenit comes to games, has been
getting better. So yeah, they'reputting more money. You know. I

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mean they put a lot of money. I mean, I think Avengers as
a single player game or a multiplayerlike a you know, co op multiplayer
game is fine, but as theirwhole like live service thing was a disaster.
Yeah, I mean, and AmyHenning is happy that she can be
doing Marvel as one of the firstfames for the studio. You know,
Amy Hennigg is happy she can finallyfinish a game. Yeah, from under

(34:47):
her a few times unfortunately exactly.And you know that's the thing is he
has that amazing pedigree from doing theCharged games and all that. Like,
it's cool to get to see herfinally get through this, right, she
didn't get to do it with StarWars, so hopefully with this Marvel thing
she can. And it does likeit's going to be an interesting game,
so hope it finally actually is.Yeah, while we go from one former

(35:14):
Sony person to another, Connie Booth, who you know, we talked about,
you know, getting fired or laidoff or whatever the term is for
what happened to her last year fromSony Interactive Entertainment. She's not going to
be the group general manager of ActionRPGs at EA, so you know,

(35:36):
the big games that we know thatthey're working on, Dragon Age Mass Effect,
the Black Black Panther game, theIron Man EA Motive game, and
even if they continue with dead Space, like doing a dead Space to remake.
She's gonna be involved with all ofthose. She's gonna be kind of
overseeing those studios and everything. Andwe know she has a hand in basically

(35:57):
all of the outside of God ofWar, I think out of all all
of the other major Sony games thathave come out in the last what ten
or so more years, uh,you name it, she's been involved with
it in some capacity. Do youthink this is gonna be something that Look,
I think sometimes we make too muchof getting figureheads get put into something

(36:22):
and then giving them all the credit. Right, how much do you think
this helps maybe get like a DragonAge Dreadwolf closer to being out the door
or the Iron Man of Black Panther, things like this. How much does
this help? You think it allhelp with some because I think a big

(36:43):
part of EA problems right now orthey can't finish games, like it's almost
like they have too many cooks inthe kitchen, right, I think that's
problems Like a lot of triple adevelopment these days, but like especially like
I mean they're talking about you know, Dragon Age for the past five years
or you know, like and it'slike, yo, dog, you barely
even trying to trailer that thing,So what's going on? Yeah, you're

(37:05):
shown hardly anything. And we knowMassive Effect is even further away, right
right, you know, they justannounced they're going to stop doing a lot
of license stuff. They do havethat whenever that Jedi three is gonna come
out or whatever, but a lotof their stuff is sports games. So
we know they have that EA collegefootball thing coming uh pretty also like months,

(37:28):
but yeah, you know, Imean to you it does to an
extent. But like their sports stuffis so cypical that it can't like it's
big, but it's not. Itdoesn't go anywhere. It's not like,
oh, it's just new, newrevolutionary friends. The college football one is
different because they haven't had it inten years, right, and most of

(37:49):
them, Yeah, but it's notyou can like, you know, the
Madden Engine and I'm sure you know, I'm sure from like a functionality standpoint,
it'll probably be at least eighty percentof that game. You know,
obviously, like the skatings will bedifferent. Yeah, it's football at the
end of the day, they're engine, right, Yeah, she does,
like the Blitz the league engine youknow from Midway. I don't think.

(38:13):
I don't think the college players problem. But yeah, it's just you know
a lot of the stuff just it'sthe same, like you're in out,
So getting stuff out that's new orperceived, you know, getting like maybe
a Dead Space two remake going oryou know, the mass effect thing and

(38:35):
uh, Dragon Agency coming out wouldbe good, right, Yeah, that
that stuff does. It would benice if she does help in that realm
of bringing experience to a situation,being able to tell them like, okay,
you can you can do this,you can't do this. I don't
know if you talked about if it'sin this thing or not, but you
do you see like the Blitzer thingabout Overwatch too. Yes, that they

(39:00):
they're going to add in the charactersfor free now you don't have to like
unlock them or well that's a goodthing, but the bad thing is and
if you canceling the single player completelybrother or like that game, even scaling
it down even further than that theytalked about if you know, and apparently
it's a problem of like they don'thave like anyone kind of like leading the

(39:22):
team or you know, it's justlike management waffling on every decision, and
it's like, wow, okay,yeah they really I don't know what it
takes for Microsoft to whoever is upto doing that like to you know,
I know, Mikey Barrow is justleft. So now you're putting in somebody

(39:42):
new and that makes time for themto get accustomed to all of that.
But man, right, it's soI mean it's not good. Yeah,
and it's all it's all like it'slike weird. I think there was a
problem. Well it was a problemof the the team was chasing this like
weird maybe this concept of Blizzard qualityand it's and it's like, I know

(40:06):
what you're trying to get. Youknow, Blizzard used to be, you
know, the the top studio oryou know, one of the best studios
releasing games. But check out theirlineup for the past ten years and yeah,
no, like you can't chase thislike Blizzard's feel of quality when at
least releasing crap for the past fiveor ten years. Yeah, and even
the four has a bad oh yeahto it. You know, so they

(40:31):
really outside of Wow, which theyseemingly, I guess, kind of are
trying to improve with all this stuffthey announced and everything. Yeah, they
announced like this like weird uh likeBattle Royal Milo. It seems interesting,
but yeah, I mean like lookat the look at Overwatch went down as
soon as they released over Watched toright, Diablo four has had nothing but

(40:54):
bad for us, And it feelslike maybe coming out the game pass and
in next week is going to helpwith getting new players and get more people
talking about it. But again,when you have players of fraternity to still
out there, Last is taking alot of its thunder. They are going

(41:15):
to be doing some adding new stuffto it, but again I don't know
if that's going to help at all. And then you know, you've got
what their other franchises are kind oflike just not Doing're not going to make
a new Warcraft game. Yeah,well they screwed that up. That StarCraft.

(41:35):
They could make StarCraft three, youknow eventually, but right they canceled
the game they've been working on inthe survival game. So Lizard's kind of
in a really bad like flux whynow and again, changing leadership and all
that stuff is not helping. Hopefully, it improves for them. You don't
want to you don't want to seethis for any studio. But but still

(42:00):
it's just not great when it comesto that. And yeah, speaking of
not great things, look, Iknow we're probably going to get people that
that absolutely probably just decide to stopwatching now because I'm about to talk about
this. But I know it's onthe bottom rung of what people care about.
But to me and you know,to Mark, I guess in some

(42:22):
way both of us right about gamesreview games. When stuff happens to outlets,
it matters in a way because itaffects all of us. It affects
everybody that writes about games. SoKataku's e I see resigning, you know,
deciding to resign because basically Kataku's ownerover at Geomedia, who's done this

(42:47):
a bunch of times Jim Spanfeller.Yeah, I've seen people say that it's
apparently like a tactic that he doesto get people to like fight for their
job and then he'll kind of likeback off. But still, the fact
that you go from taking Kataku oneof the leading investigative reporting news sites that

(43:08):
exist still for gaming, this iswhat Kataku is known for. That's what
people come to Kataku for. Evenif you don't like their clickbait articles that
they write. You're going for thosearticles. You're not going for for them
to be the fiftieth website or probablyZillient website that writes guides. Uh,

(43:29):
they're already, you know, it'salready you know, game one on one
or whenever they hell their game aidor I think whatever. Yeah, like
they already did really cool you know, they were one of the first ones
to do the whole this is whatyou need to know article. Yeah,
they kind of gave you your previewwithout spoiling too much about like things that
could help you if you're kind ofjust getting started right. And then of

(43:53):
course, like everybody else, theystarted having to do some guides or whatever.
But I really noticed it with Rebirth, Like this is when I first
really noticed. Yeah, like Katakoexactly when you used to come up look
at guides, Kataku would hardly evercome up right. And all of a
sudden, when I was searching forSteph at Rebert because like I think both

(44:15):
of us have talked about there there'sthe mini games and and and some of
the traversal for you know, GungGod Cosmo Canyon. It gets frustrating,
and I was like, look,I'm not going to sit here for five
hours going in circles. I'm justgonna go find a guide freaking figure this
out and move on to the nextthing. And Kataku kept coming up,

(44:36):
and I was like, Wow,this is just weird, like I've never
seen Kataku come up this often fora guide before. And then all of
this makes sense now. Of course, after mathis the one doing the reporting
on this, that they received acopy of MSS Glennon's resignation letter, and
she basically kind of told them like, you know, I'm not I didn't
sign up for this. None ofmy writers signed up for this, and

(44:58):
I'm not going to basically kill myselfto right guides that and not only right
guys, they're requiring the writers.I don't know if it's cumulative. I
think it's cumulative between all the sevenriders. They have to write fifty guides
a week. Now. Supposedly,this is not like, oh, you
have to write original guide. Youcan take guys that olverady exist and basically

(45:20):
turn them into your own thing.That doesn't help anything. It's the same
shit, here's a problem, andI talked, I mentioned this on Twitter.
Is okay there are big games comingout now, or big games out
now like Rebirth, Dragons, Dogmatwo. What happens when it's a week
or even a month when there's nobig games? Yeah, like after April,
it looks like right now there's notgonna be big games. It's going

(45:43):
to be the smaller game. Yeah, it's gonna be like yo, go
review or go make a guide onyou know mad in nineteen ninety nine or
you know, like some old assgames. Yeah, like oh, are
you gonna make a guy for thisindie game that's not going to draw on
much traffic? Like yeah, it'slike he go, here's how to open
the Star Road and you know suMario World in case you can't figure that

(46:04):
out. It's like yeah, it'sit's just like, look, I know
there's different guides, right, there'sguides that are the everything you need to
know. Thing is also technically aguide, but like it's just it's it's
so stupid and and and unnerving andjust like you're taking what Kataku writers know
how to do, which is rightnews and write articles and editorials and then

(46:27):
telling them oh, you got towrite this task type stuff, which is
guides, which I think a problemalso. I mean this is an issue,
but I think Kataku for a lotof its era has has had a
somewhat political bent. Yeah, that'sbeen way more political over the past few
years. Uh, that's an issue. I think like it could have he

(46:50):
could have the Jim Spanfeller guy couldhave phrased this better, like get the
editorializing out of here, or youknow, get your agenda out of here,
or and either report on the newsor make like I wouldn't say color
colorless, but you know, makemore of a neutral view and editorializing than

(47:12):
what you have been doing. Yeah, but I mean like they kind of
need that though, like they neededsomething to set them apart, because you
can't just be another I mean yeah, but like I think having like such
a political agenda is certain I wouldn'tsay, well certain topics or certain you
know, writers or whatever. Thatthat can be a problem because it can

(47:34):
turn out the huge amount of peopleand it leads to people like cheering the
death of Kotaku for this crap.Yeah, exactly. And that's the worst
part too, Like these writers thathave no saying what's happening, They're just
getting harassed and people making fun ofthem and stuff for this. I don't
know. Do you get the emailfrom moviesoft? I do, yeah,

(47:57):
the pr emails, And I thinkat these and I'm like, what the
fuck I supposed to do with this? You know, like well like reposted
on that's what they But it's likeI wouldn't. Hey, I that's not
like my job. I mean right, but they don't know that. They
just send it to whoever decides toget their press emails. I guess,
yeah, there are people that stilldo this. They they that's their news

(48:19):
they write. I'm not like,I think Jeremy does it a lot on
for one, and I'm not likefaulting him or anything like That's it's actually
kind of important because it doesn't like, you know, it doesn't form it
out. They don't like post itthemselves. They just look at everyone else
to post it. Yeah, butit's just like weird, and you know,
I thought it was a poster likethat, I do editorializing on it.

(48:42):
I'd be like when I get thepress email for Skull and Bones season
two, but like, for allfour of you still play in this game,
you know, here's season two orsomething like that. Yeah, I
just gotta be careful because then ifsomebody actually wants to like get a review
copy of that game, they're gonnabe like, all right, you talk
junk about the game and a damnnews postfely not sending it to eat right.
Uh So that's so that's a problemby itself that if we don't need

(49:05):
to get into here. But youknow, also companies can do whatever the
hell they want. They don't haveto send uh So, like but like,
look, just like we talked aboutthe cap on thing, like this
thing sucks. Hopefully it's a tacticthat like he quickly figures out that there's
no way his writers are going tobe able to beat this goal and he

(49:27):
dropped backs off. But it reallysucks. Like gaming journalism as a whole
sucks right now. Gaming media asa whole sucks for you can't find jobs,
and if you can, you getstuff like this, And it's like,
dude, guide runing is a skillthen not everybody has. It's also
a huge ass time investment. Yeah, It's like if I was many need
to try to guide, I meanI can I can maybe write something like

(49:51):
if I had to do something likerebirth but forget it because I couldn't.
I couldn't do it at all,probably, or if I need to be
extremely like half assed and based,yeah, it'd be like the stuff you
you know, That's the thing islike this is why even video guides are
even easier people to use sometimes becausethe writing guide is great, like it

(50:12):
shows you a picture on the mapand you kind of try to get there,
but when you have somebody that literallywalks you through how to go to
where you are, Like I hadthe same issue with gon Gaga where I
literally realized that I was walking bythe same stupid tree that has the thing
where you slide through, yeah,like five times and I was like,
are you kidding me? All Ihad to do was turn sharp left instead

(50:36):
of going around, and I wouldhave seen the damn fucking tree and you
know that's developer's fault. But like, still, the point is you have
way too many people doing these.It's not going to help them get traffic
like that. In fact, peoplethat are avoiding goodtaku are going to avoid
them even more and be like,well, I'm definitely not clicking your GUIDs

(50:57):
now, because you know why Iwanted to support you. I didn't want
to support your other stuff. Sobut still moving on from this, but
I just wanted to point this out. It sucks, like I hate that
this is happening, but something thatuh, I guess just as controversial but
may not be as you know,may not suck because it's good for this
developer. So I guess I shouldhave prefaced by saying that Balterer's Game three

(51:21):
one Game of the Year. Atthe GDC Awards that took place yesterday or
a couple of days ago, theywon other awards like Best Design I guess
Audience Award, which is like thePlayer's Choice Award or something, and they
won Best Narrative. Vemba also wonawards, which awesome. Love the fact
that Venba won like Best Indie andand stuff like that, and Zelda won

(51:45):
some awards and Yokushiman War got theLifetime Achievement Awards, which definitely deserved.
Also, you should go watch thatif you you care about you know,
gaming music at all. Right,she had a you know, kind of
touching moment. There, go ahead. She's quite good. Yeah, she's
a maid. She's working on Mart'sfor music right now. So that being

(52:06):
said, you know, Larry andBig Boss Ben Venki talked about again he's
he's done this several times when theywon awards where he talks about, you
know, corporate greed is basically ruininggaming. They're they're focusing on quarterly profits,
they're focusing on the big thing,the big picture or and they're not
like looking at what makes games great. And so you know the thing is,

(52:34):
uh, he kind of proves thisand and and shows this by the
decision that they have made and thatwe're not going to just follow what the
corporations want us to do or whatpeople think that we should do. We're
going to do our own thing.And so they have decided that they are
not going to do anything else.So Ballerskate three or Ballersgate itself period,
they actually tried to make Balderskate threeDLC and then stop doing it because they

(52:58):
just weren't feeling it. And nowthey're going to do their own thing.
And so of course it's the scentshock waves for people that really wanted bull
Gate, Bullsgate three DC and allthat stuff. How are you feeling about
this? Do you think it's awesomethat they're moving away from this and letting
Wizards of the Coats have it,or you think this is bad, you're
worried about it. I mean it'sprobably good for them because I mean both

(53:20):
Here's the thing. Boulder's Gate isa licensed game, so they got to
pay Wizards of the Coach money toplay, you know, make stuff for
or you know, it's probably youknow, they don't have to pay money
obviously, but you know it's likea give and take or like a profit
sharing thing or something like that.So and it's not like, uh,
I mean, I think, whatis it, uh the other game?

(53:44):
Yeah, I think that's the originalthat's like their own I p R.
So a lot of vemories about it, Divisional Original Send three now right.
I imagine it'll be something like thator I don't know, I actually see
them to try to take a cracklike a cyberpunk game or a sci fi
game, because yeah, it wouldbe cool if they they kind of got

(54:05):
out of the medieval. Yeah,all their games are essentially the same you
know, fantasy, high fantasy oryou know fantasy stuff, So having them
try something like actually new would becool. Yeah, it would. You
can have the same gameplay. ButI just mean, like it's you know,
it's setting exchange or you know,everything like that. But also here's
the thing is, you know,Larrying is a private company, so that's

(54:28):
why they are allowed the freedom orthey have the freedom to do this.
But when you have a publicly ownedcompany with shareholder who want the most profit
you can generate, that's why youhave corporate creed. Yeah, exactly.
You know, I'm sure it's notlike Larrying is like, oh, are
making games for the betterment of people, like they want money to They just
have a better way of disguising thator you know, like interfacing with like

(54:53):
their their customers, so they don'tit doesn't see that they're screwing them over.
Well, but the also like theycan do this or like you just
said, I think it's what he'strying to prove is saying we have the
ability to do this. We're goingto show you why being private and having
this money, We're gonna show youthat we can uh so that we're not

(55:15):
just speaking words, Yeah, we'redoing action. How many other com like,
okay, they have the ability todo that, but how many other
companies have the know how to makebasically a triple A game like you know,
Baller to Gate three and the financialrunway to do that. It's because
its not like you know, BallersGet three. Also, like launch an

(55:36):
early access, they'd spent years,you know, making the game like most
cane companies. It's like if EAtry to like launch Dragon Age or Dreadwolf
in early access, like the Internetwould explode because they'd just be like condemnation
about like how dare this big companyrelates a triple email a game in early

(55:58):
access? It's like, hey,like it might not be a success,
like and considering how badly the DragonAge name and buyer has been through over
the past two years, Like it'sprobably is a big risk to them try
to make another one. Same withmass Effect. Like I'm sure if you
want if if I thought they couldget away with it, they did.

(56:20):
All they do is sports games.Yeah, like they had they they said
it they want to do their ownoriginal stuff and focused on the sports games.
But I think they know that theyhave to in some way have something
that brings people outside of those,right they have to have like there like
a few of their like legacy franchises. Yeah, you know, well,

(56:40):
I mean also you have buy whetherthey got to be doing something yeah,
you know, but so yeah,I agree. I agree with him with
the Lanyring guy in principle, likeyeah, it'd be nice if you know,
every studio could have our amount offreedom financial and creative to do whatever
they wanted, right, but thatit's in such there's such a specific you

(57:05):
know. The only other game companyI can think of that like has that
type of like freedom would be likesuper Massive Games, you know, like
the Hades, the Hades guys,you know, super Giant, super Giant.
Sorry, and they're a small team. It's not like there's some two
hundred people you know game company oranything like. They got like thirty people
probably there. You know, it'sbecause it's not the same scale at all.

(57:30):
So yeah, or like maybe CDProject Red, Yeah, they're they're
probably good analog or maybe maybe remedy. But they also get like funding from
the from yeah yeah right, likeyeah, because yeah, almost no gun
game company is our game uh developmentstudio is just kind of owned outright by

(57:52):
one guy or you know this,you know, the employees maybe or yeah,
it's always like funding from well,not embrace her anymore. It used
to be, but or the Chinesecompany or Epic or whoever. You know,
right. So I think overall thisis this is good for Larian to

(58:15):
do their own thing. I thinkI must rather them do their own thing
than them slaving away at Father's Gatethree DLC. That they don't they don't
particularly care for, or are notenthusiab out, just to do it to
make money. And if they wereowned by a by Words of the Coast,
let's say they would be doing that. That would be their job and

(58:38):
it'd be hard working Fathers Gate fourand a whole bunch of other craft exactly.
So that's good that they can dothis and they are, like you
said, it's it's very small theamount of people that can do these kinds
of things. But again it isimportant that they take the action to say,
we are moving away from the thingthat we know will make us money

(59:00):
to do something that we are passionateabout. And that's good and creative to
do something that you're passionate about whenyou can do it. So another good
analog would be the collective from youknow, the Gears of War studio,
like they were found to make Gearsof War or you know, keep that
franchise going. They made two gamesthat were fine, but they didn't set

(59:22):
the world on fire, and thenthey were trying to go that Y're trying
to make something new and creative that'sflamed out and now they're kind of stuck
in a lurch. Yeah, andit sucks because the one studio that we
kind of haven't had to talk aboutlayoffs the last couple of weeks at least
in a big way. Yeah,I mean the gn thing that sucks too.

(59:47):
I should have mentioned that when wetalked Aboutkataky, But that just sucks
because they circumvented the union thing thatthey they they addressed and they notified and
they you know, supported, andthen they went around did to fire three
people that and it sucks, likethat's just pathetic and stupid. But whatever,
these corporations are gonna do what they'regonna do. But you do see

(01:00:08):
what happens when a company has oneof their projects canceled on them, like
we saw with Embraco Group Hoop wherethey lost money and now they had to
do all this stuff. This ison a smaller scale but still valin studio,
which are the people that did MartykKRT Live Home Circuit. They didn't
knock out City Hot Wheels, RiffRally. They might have to lose almost

(01:00:32):
like half their employee base. Fortysix out of their one hundred and twenty
one employees may be laid off becausethey had a project, a major project
get canceled on them. They don'tsay what it is, but yeah,
I mean Hot Wheels Riff Rally,which had like, you know, a
mix of reality racing with gaming.It came out last year around this time,

(01:00:54):
so they they kind of just releasedthe game. They're gonna be working
on something else, and then thishappen, and and it sucks to see
as well. Yeah, you know, so yeah, the Knockout City,
which you know, that was bigfor a while, so unfortunate for them

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for sure. Something that kind offeels like it's been in the water for
a long time, but obviously helpsa lot. That the EU has really
been talking about this for a while, especially with them making Apple have to
open up their store. Well,the US Department of Justice is decided that
they're going to go after Apple forvirtually the same thing, and they focused

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on five key areas, one ofthem being cloud streaming, cloud gaming.
The others are super apps, messaging, smart watches, and digital wallets that
they are basically using to be amonopoly. We know that. You know,
the EU had to force them toopen up the store, but then
they added their own stuff in thereto make it almost possible for those companies

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to make money on the store unlessyou just like don't grow very big and
you know whatever. But like Epicand Microsoft who want to have their own
stores, they could do it,but it makes it really hard for them
to monetize, right, And theyhave been blocking cloud gaming apps on the

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store. They've been blocking apps.You know, they have to be involved
in every form of creation of anapp that goes on the store, which,
okay, have moderation understandable in away, because so there's some stuff
on the Google Play Store that,dude, if you've download that into your
phone, you're gonna get yourself avirus. So in a way, that
is good, right, But that'snot what they're This is not what the

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US is alleging. They're basically sayingthat they're being a monopoly by not allowing
other third party apps to exist andalso make money on their store. And
we know the EU won in away, but again, apples try to
circumvent that. You think this isgoing to be similar for the US side
of things, or I just don'tunderstand. I mean I understand. I

(01:03:06):
think I understand like what they're tryingto say, but like it's such a
weird train of logic, like yeah, I under starting a yeah, sorry,
Apple doesn't own this, this likecell phone network or like the copyright
on cell phones, right, theydon't. You know, if you want
an Android phone, you can goout and buy one. If you want

(01:03:27):
some other weird like the you know, a Windows phone. I don't know
if there's all around or not oneof those just because but it isn't just
similar to the Microsoft and the InternetExplorer thing where Microsoft doesn't own the PC,
but they are basically making to wherealmost every PC comes with Windows,
and so they had to make itto where okay, yeah, but like
the difference between that is like Idon't know about you. When I get

(01:03:52):
like a new effectually like greenstall Windowsor get a new PC, the first
thing I do is, yeah,I went up Edge, and the first
thing I do is go to Google. It had been Google Chrome, and
I hit install, you know,and then I never think about Edge ever
again. Right, Yeah, butthat's that wasn't that part of an uh
legislation that they had to make itavailable for you to have you know,

(01:04:15):
other I mean, well no,because it's not like I mean, hell
like when then our Explore was firstout, like they had Netscape Navigator and
whole bunch of other gear browsers.I just don't understand, like if if
I created a marketplace, even iflike think about like Valve, like like
they had the defect of monopoly onPC gaming Pie to a fairly large degree

(01:04:40):
compared to Dog and Epic and whateverother weird and trying to fight that for
a long time as well. Butalso like, okay, it's a defective
monopoly, but it's not a youknow, it's set in store monopoly.
It's not like, oh, youcan only put games on Valve or put
put games on Steam, rather likeyou can put game wherever you want.
The one thing I will agree withthem on is I don't like the fact

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that and this is one of thereasons why I've never bought an Apple phone
outside for the fact that I don'tlike Apple products and I'm just used to
Android and Microsoft and stuff whatever,is I don't like the fact that at
some point it doesn't matter when myold phone is going to stop working because
they purposely will make it to wherethat phone will no longer update you need

(01:05:26):
for iPhones or right iPhones exactly.That's one of the things they're alleging here,
is that they make it to whereyou have to buy a new phone
at some point because your old phoneis going to stop working with most of
the apps on the store. Youknow, it's the same thing like my
my daughter had an old tablet thenall of a sudden could not play most
of the apps because it couldn't getto iOS version ten or whatever it was

(01:05:51):
that you needed to have. Okay, yeah, but like you know,
Android has that problem also to anextent, but nowhere near as extravagantly as
the Windows. But Windows have thatproblem as well, but Windows, you
have to it goes a long timebefore, like how long did it take

(01:06:11):
to go from Windows seven no longerworks or won't update anymore where they can.
I guess it canute like a timelimit or you know, you have
to you have to support this thingfor four years or whatever. But I
don't know, Like, hey,if you don't like you made the choice,
you don't like it, don't doit. You know you're on an

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Android phone, and I'm I'm noton an Android phone because my old ass
I had my flip phone until likethree years ago, you know, and
you wouldn't have been able to dothat with Apple. Yeah, but I
also would never buy a nine hundreddollars phone. Right. But I'm gonna
say, Okay, most people goand buy the Apple products because they like

(01:06:53):
them, right, Yeah. Theydon't care about well, they don't care
about like this whole issue of sustainabilityor like no, but that's because the
cell phone market itself has been transformedbecause of this, like the way Apple
institutes this where you know that atsome point, whether it's three or four

(01:07:17):
years down the line, that phoneis going to stop working at some point.
Sure. Yeah, but also Applefans are so conditioned that I have
a friend, like the day thenew iPhone comes out, he buys it
regardless of whether his old iPhone isstill working or not, or he just
trades it in. Oh well,also because a lot I mean this happens

(01:07:38):
on Android too. There are alot of phones. Even Samsung does this
to an extent where after like twoor three years, your phone starts,
yeah, sting in security updates andyeah, like it starts being really slow,
it starts like it runs out ofmemory and you can't put a memory
card in it, or you know, they the cell phone mark itself is

(01:08:00):
made to where they want you toupgrade every two years by offering you a
free upgrade so you never have toworry about it other than oh, okay,
I'll pay one hundred and fifty bucksor two hundred bucks and I get
the new phone, and I'll payit monthly, and then in two years
it'll be it'll be paid off,and then oh I'm ready for the new
phone again. Right, most peopledon't buy the phone outright, Like that's

(01:08:21):
the the two to three percent richpeople that have the money to just go
outright by the new fifteen hundred dollarsphone. Most people are subsidizing that.
Yeah, So I don't know.I think this is one of those things
where they could do some kind ofpartial judgment. I feel like where they
could get Apple on some things,but maybe not on all the things.

(01:08:42):
They're right, they don't have to, Like I don't see the thing with
like why do they have to allowGoogle to allow to have Google's wallet on
there when it's their rival? LikeI don't understand what that'd be, like
Nintendo having to allow Xbox to havegame Pass on yeah, or like you
know having to have Epic Games oryou know, published game on on on

(01:09:05):
Steam, Like they're not gonna ifthey want to put allen Wick too and
Steam, they'd probably be fine withit, but like having some forcing it
or you know forcing like the Epicyou know, payments system or whatever,
like fuck off, right, Yeah, I mean they would still get money
because they published the game, butin other instances, you know, if
Steve's gonna get everything and they gethardly nothing, then you know that I

(01:09:28):
can I can see the point ofthem not wanting to put that on there.
But like again, I think theUS Department of Justice has some claims
here, but I think a lotof the claims are that same thing that
everybody's been fighting with Apple about howwell Apple shouldn't be able to take the
thirty percent, Apples shouldn't be ableto have this stranglehold on the market with

(01:09:49):
with games. I do agree withthe whole cloud gaming thing, if they
should allow these cloud gaming apps onthere, because of course they want you
to buy the thing on their store, so you get they get the money.
They don't want you to play thegame on the cloud gaming and you
don't have to have their new Applephone or whatever the hell. So yes,
I think I can see points thatare made here. But will they

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went out in the end, Idon't know. That's a it's up man.
Apple is not one of those companiesyou really want to mess with because
they're not gonna let this go downwithout a huge, huge fight. So
I don't know. It's it's surprisingyet not surprising. I don't know that
they've been having this crusade against bigtech for a while now. We saw

(01:10:33):
the Lacrostoft in the Act Division thing, We've seen it with Facebook and Amazon
and all that stuff. So yeah, can you I'd like to imagine,
just for a second, if,if if Apple is just all right,
fuck it and they on the iPhonein America just for like a day,
like it would like lead them likemass panic or you know, like,
yeah, the amount of people thatwould go nuts because of that, Yeah,

(01:10:56):
instantly, you know, everyone justyou know, get on the start
playing politicians and be like Okay,we're going to quickly reverse this, and
you know, not for sure itwould happen. I'm pretty sure it probably
would. Speaking of Epic just fora second, because we we talked about
you know, you mentioned Allen wiktoo, uh Remedy says that they are
going to do more stuff with Controland Alan wif we do. You know

(01:11:20):
what they're working on control to andthat control like condor thing already and they
got the Max pain win in tworemakes which are all part of their multi
verse thing. Hey, I'm alldown for that. I love those games,
So go for it if you wantto do. What about Quantum break

(01:11:40):
M if they own the I wonderif they will. I wonder if they
would, if Microsoft would ever toywith selling them that IP or if they
care that's problem. Yeah, likethey they did slessly buy out the the
from I think that's a lot morenear and dear to their hearts exactly.

(01:12:04):
Yea, because now the way cancontrol are tied together, so they have
to they need to have Yeah,that own to themselves, you know,
And thankfully rock Star is letting themwork together to do their remakes of one
and two, so we'll see ifthey put any tie in stuff in there.
I believe I wouldn't want Rocks todo that because I've played No,

(01:12:27):
definitely, so, but yeah,that that's a good thing. That that's
that's happening for sure. I'm gladto see where we're doing more with those
games. I don't know how quickthey're all going to come out or whatever,
but hey, take your time,make those games great the way you
have been. Uh, and that'swhat uh you know matters in the end.
Uh. Just really quick before weget into like the Fall Fantasy talk,

(01:12:51):
just get get done with these couplemore stories we did mention Valve.
Valve is now doing a like biggerSteam Family Sharing and Steam Family View thing.
So you and I did this fora while where you know, you
would share your games with me andthen I could play, but you didn't

(01:13:11):
have to go offline to play yourgame so that I could play a game
that you had on my on mylaptop. Well, now you don't have
to do that. You have afamily share thing and as long as you're
not trying to play the same gameunless you know, Mark had multiple copies
of the game, you can marka new playing a game and I can
be playing a game at the sametime, which that's cool. Yeah,

(01:13:34):
surprise they took so long to introducethat honestly, right, the old system
is kind of bad with that typeof stuff, Like you had to be
off you know, you had tobe not offline, but not playing a
game with someone else is trying toplay a game, Yeah, but it
makes difficult. Like the whole pointof this should have been to where you
could have multiple people playing your game, and hey, one of the people
in the family bought it, sohey, you have license to use it

(01:13:56):
as well. That's cool. Also, they added more pronal controls, which
you know whatever for that if youhave a child that plays on your Steam
stuff, that's good that you cansee what they're playing and you have options
to buy what's in their Steam cardif they ask, and things like that.
That's cool. Yeah. So that'sgood that up to six people can

(01:14:20):
can use this at a time,and and again more people can play games
at the same time. So that'sgreat. Right now, it's only in
beta. Not sure when it's goingto come out or if there's going to
be a cost of this or something, but that's good. Doesn't really do
that at all, Yeah, sothat's that's great. It's not like the
Xbox One where they they're basically chargingyou for each portion of game Pass that

(01:14:43):
you're buying. You're just getting itall together instead of uh, separately.
But that's the school that Steam isdoing that. Speaking of game Pass or
Microsoft, they are redoing the rewardsprogram for Xbox. So right now all
the rewards stuff for Xboxes kind ofall segmented. You have that Microsoft Rewards
website, which that's where you technicallygo to get all of the rewards now,

(01:15:06):
and then they have the stuff onthe console, which they've been nuking
slowly but surely. Now it's gettingharder and harder to be able to like,
let's say, if you wanted toplay enough games to buy you another
month of game Pass. You usedto be able to do that really easily.
Now they've really made it the smallpotatoes which you get every time you

(01:15:26):
log in or play a game orall that stuff. They're supposedly improving the
app that's going to be on console, and it's all going to be kind
of together between the SBOS console,the mobile XBOS console app, and the
Windows app, so you can earnreward points and I guess buy the thing,
get the things that you want offof there instead of having to go

(01:15:47):
to like Microsoft Rewards website, whicha lot of times I have awarwards ones
that doesn't even work, and sothat's good. Just hope that they don't
nuke things even further and make iteven more difficult to use things at the
rewards program. So yeah, justit's cool that they're doing this. Hope

(01:16:09):
it's actually a good thing and notjust oh, we're making this easier to
use, but it's still going tobe kind of crappy, right. Also,
there's a SIMS movie in development.I think they announced this before,
but it's being worked on by LuckyChaff that's Margot Robbie's professional company that also
worked on the Barbie movie and Saltburnas well. Hey, that's cool,

(01:16:31):
you got some experience people working onthis. SIMS has such creativity to it
that you can literally make this anythingyou want and still say it's a SIMS
movie. Do you think this couldactually be good? I imagine it'll follow
the same type of formula as likethe Barber movie or Lego movie, where

(01:16:54):
some fictional, fictional town or youknow, fictional environment where the SIMS are
and then it'll be either someone fromthe real world goes into the SIMS or
someone from the STEMS will go intothe real world and you know it'll be
hijinkson too. Yeah, I wouldnot be surprised if that's something like that.

(01:17:15):
Make it look like you're gonna bedoing like a Sims kind of story
and then oh, it's actually realpeople, and you know, right,
it could have some good interesting stuffthere. And I hope the Similish language
keeps going to the movie it's allbeing Similars. Yeah, they'll be easter
eggs where they Oh we started withthe Sims and sim language and all of

(01:17:41):
a sudden, oh, we havea way to translate into English. So
yeah, ah, oh god.I hope this rain doesn't get worse.
Aboadys seen lightning a good thing.We're close to the end here, so
I guess we'll just scroup all thisfile fantasy stuff together. Look, I'm
sure there's more announcements, some packsand more announces from GDC, and there'll
be way more news coming over theweekend, which that's always fun great to

(01:18:05):
see. There's already been uh sixto one INDI Showcase. Kind of funny
that a showcase with the mixed people, the future games people that are showcase.
So there's a lot of showcase outthere. I'm probably gonna spending my
time like this week watching some ofthose because they're always interesting to like know
what games are coming kind of things. So I haven't watched any of those,

(01:18:29):
so I can't really speak on them, but I did watch this Fan
Fantasy sixteen panel that Yoship and folkshad on here, and they gave details
on the Rising Tide DLC, whichyou know, I know, mom,
Fans sixteen is not your thing atall, Mark, but hey, it's

(01:18:49):
it's there, and it's new,and it's actually gonna come out April eighteen,
so it's coming pretty soon here,left in a month. Actually.
They they showed off, you know, uh, some of the fight with
Levithan and e Frey. Uh.They show that what the powers are gonna
be. So if you have interestin knowing what those Leviathan powers are,

(01:19:13):
they kind of look like across betweenlike what Odin's powers are and Bahama to
kind of give you an idea.They're also gonna Apparently the story is more
about like so Echoes of the Fallenwas the last kind of story with Clive,
whereas this one is supposed to belike the last story for e Free

(01:19:35):
you know, have the big lasticon Icon Battle, that kind of thing.
They are also going to bring instuff to like people that are getting
through the base game still or havinginterest and now that all the DC is
out, like pick it all uptogether. Yeah. Yeah, they're going
to announce that they're gonna they're gonnahave load outs finally that you can have,

(01:20:00):
uh something that I wish they wouldhave had it, you know in
the base game itself. Right,They're going to have stuff that that makes
it easier for I can't ever exactlyrun, but it it definitely makes it
easier for you to get around themap as well. They added the like
make it easier to know which questsare important if you want to unlock all

(01:20:25):
of the Clive stuff for his room, so they they got to have the
marker on that instead of trophy caseexactly. They also had a ben Star
come out and like asked questions fromthe the audience as well, which was
funny. There's also a actual personthat is the one that had is she's

(01:20:49):
the I forgot what they call thosein this game, the dominant of Leviathan.
She's she's the one in trouble thattells you that there's something wrong and
Clive needs to go fix it.But they're not really changing a whole lot
other than it seems like they're makingthe Leviathan fight and the other fights that
you're doing in that game harder.So that's something that you know, pay

(01:21:14):
attention to at least or whatever thatshe said, you know, you might
have to get good as far asget ready, it's going to be a
step up, kind of like thatEchoes the Fallen was where there was definitely
a step up and difficulty there.They added a different mode that has like
stages you can fight in that arcadething. I forgot what they call that

(01:21:36):
thing, the r treat Wall orsomething that you have to like go in,
and they kind of made it looklike the old like eight bit Found
Fantasy thing in the menus, whichis kind of neat. So it's kind
of like the Chadley thing from Rebirth, but you know, you don't have
the party. It's just Clive andyou can do like things where you give

(01:21:58):
yourself boosts and stuff like that,and you get points for going through the
different stages, and if you gothrough all the stages on fall Fantasy mode,
there's a secret boss that you canfight at the end that they didn't
want to reveal, and they showedoff a picture of Colyde with wings that
they immediately said, this is notseparate or whatever. But I wonder what

(01:22:18):
that's going to be. But yeah, well we'll see. They they introduced
some cool stuff that should be interestingfor everybody that's kind of interested in that.
I showed the trailer on video,but you can go watch the e
tailer. It's like two minutes.So yeah, April eighteenth. Man,
if you didn't get the first DLC, that one was really short. It's

(01:22:38):
like three hours. This one wassupposed to be like eight to ten hours.
So between the two you get liketwelve hours of goodness there. So
go check it out. For twentyfive bucks, get both of them,
and you know it's a good deal. Unless you're like Mark, you don't
like the game spine, one ofthe correct thinking people in the world.
So, speaking of other poun flantsstuff, Rebirth got that long awaited PATS

(01:23:03):
that unfortunately does not do a quickfixed performance mode that everybody wanted it to
do. It kind of just Theyadded a second performance mode mode called Shark,
which makes like things around the characterslook better but not necessarily the characters
themselves, as from what I couldgather from looking at it, I couldn't

(01:23:25):
really tell. Honestly, I couldnot tell much the difference. I didn't
play the game in performance that much. I switched between it quite a few
times, especially towards the beginning,just to be able to see what people
were talking about. You. Youcould clearly see the blurriness. But they
made the quality mode even better also, so it's like they improve performance,

(01:23:46):
but then they made it to wherelike, damn, I just want to
play in quality mode again because thecharacters look so good when you're traveling through
the world and all that stuff.So again, I think nothing's changed.
Just played the game game in qualitymode. And if your performance mode nut,
then I guess once you've already beatenthe game, you want to play
it again and you don't care aboutwhat the graphics look like at that point,

(01:24:06):
then I guess go ahead. Yeah, but yeah, I mean,
I guess I'll go ahead. AndI finished the game the main story anyway,
I still have a bunch of pidequeststuff to do. I have to
figure out jump a bunch of regretat the end. Uh. Yeah,
I have to go do that yogamess thing, and probably after I write

(01:24:28):
the review, Like, once Iwrite the review, I'll go back and
try to see if I can beatsome of that stuff and maybe try on
hard Move and things like that,because I really, I really love the
combat in that game. But yeah, the temples of the Agents goes on
a little lot. I'm not gonnanot gonna even words about that. Yeah,
I don't mind the eras stuff particularly, It's just it feels like I

(01:24:50):
don't remember this being that long inthe original game, and it feels like
they over extended it. Like inthe original game, it was like four
screens, just like you know,I think in the Arena game, wasn't
it It didn't have it was almostlike an empty thing. Yeah, you're
coming out from a different angles,but it seemed like fairly easy to get

(01:25:10):
around, and it has the puzzlesyou know that are in there. Yeah,
but honestly, yeah, like thisthing is like five hours. And
then also you're fighting a lot ofthe same monsters over and over and over.
Yeah. Thankfully they don't make anyof the weapons, like the final
weapons hard to get. They're alllike right there in front of your face.

(01:25:30):
So that's why there was like someone or two accessories that roll all
off the beaten path. But yeah, I thought they're like all on that
first like or you just have togo into another room that's there that you
would have gone into any way,right, But yeah, the Temple the
agent stuff was like, wow,Okay, we're really needing to extend this

(01:25:54):
because we have to like make thelast the last two chapters feel like they're
long. And yeah, the uhand look, I said, I don't
mind. Their stuff is fine,I haven't. The only one that I
minded of the times where you youplay as one character is the because that

(01:26:15):
box stuff is like they could havedone that twice and like that stuff was
just like way too much. Andthen but like their stuff was fun for
the most part. And then youknow, they do add some like where
you get extra items things like thatif you want with that, so there
is sort of an incentive to kindof do all of those if you feel

(01:26:39):
like it. But it's just likeagain, it's like you're fighting the same
enemies over and over, especially whenwhen it's not like the troopers, like
when you have those big ones whereyou're finding like a bunch of troopers and
once so are kind of fun,but I don't want to fight the same
like two monsters. Guy that petrifiesyou or turns into a tone, the
big lion looking thing that if youdon't hit them with a big attack when

(01:27:02):
when they're doing the ambush, they'regonna smack you. I did love the
story parts of that, like allthe stuff they do towards the end.
There are some really like trial jerkersin there. They get you kind of
prepared for the final fight. Itmakes you feel a bit more for the
characters. Like the story stuff theydo in there is great. It's just
and the big fights like the onesagainst the Dragon and the demons Gate that

(01:27:25):
are from the original game, likeI enjoyed those. It's just the stuff
you do in between all that kindof feels like it takes forever. I'm
not gonna talk about the ending here, but it is what it is.
You're gonna feel one way or anotherabout it. It's gonna definitely cause everybody
to have I've already watched I don'tknow how many theory videos on what the
heck is actually going on, butwe're definitely gonna have to wait a while

(01:27:47):
to find out who was right orwho was wrong, and all that stuff.
They got to give you stuffing totalk about for the next couple of
years or three years or four years, whatever this is gonna take to do.
So it's not surprised in a waythat they went this route. It
felt like this is the inevitable thing. They were going to do something similar
to this what they decided to do, So I'm not too surprised by it.

(01:28:12):
I think anybody that expected them tohave something definitive when this is the
middle game and you have a wholeother game that they have to do is
kind of I think you're toying withyourself at that point. So yeah,
overall, I already roll with myreview. I already know I'm going to
give it a nine out of ten. It definitely has pacing issues, which
we talked about a bunch on here. The mini games don't all work out.

(01:28:35):
There's some that are downright annoying,like the case of Thing. Some
of the traversal doesn't work in someof the places, like without getting a
guide trying to find all the things. Like, I get it, we
don't have to do all the worldintel, as Randy would tell me,
but as I explained to my review. They find they make a lot of
this stuff feel like it's all interconnected. Yeah, so, and you do

(01:28:59):
get that's the thing. You getthings for doing all of these so you
want to do them. You didn'tget anything for it. I just skip
it and move on. Exactly,get so much different stuff. The Chadley
points to get materia that you can'tget anywhere else. Exactly. The knocking
down the summons matters a lot unlessyou will like to torture yourself in fighting

(01:29:21):
them. If you want to getthe summons, knock them down to the
third one because it makes them easierto defeat. Uh. The live spring
stuff makes it where you can transmuteitems and then you have to go find
them out at the Chokabul. Thatstuff they had unlock that stuff. The
protobolic stuff is that's the most extrastuff in the game. Like that stuff

(01:29:43):
just gives you extra lower and extrastory stuff. Yeah. I had a
friend last night or something on Twitter. He was really complaining about the proto
stuff because like the Wedge storyline islike locked behind the Gungogga one I can
okay, the cosmal canyon that's calledthe Gears and Gambits thing, and it's
like, yeah, I guess,but also like wedges in this game,

(01:30:06):
yeah, it's like that's extra stuff. You don't need to watch it in
order to progress through the main story. So again, it's your decision if
you want to. I get it. The Gears and Gambits things sucks.
I'm not gonna mince ros bout thatfour Condor is better than that, but
not by much. And the fourCondor ones interesting also, like what they

(01:30:29):
hide behind that, Like, allof them have their interesting stuff. Maybe
not the one in Nibelheim that waskind of just that on was fine except
for you get the one secret thingwith that, but uh yeah, just
all the world Intel stuff is connected. So that's the thing is you want
to do it, and then theymake Touarosal difficult, so it's it's annoying.

(01:30:50):
But yeah, just I love thegame. Probably going to go through
and play more of it once Ido the review so I don't have to
feel guilty about I'm saying playing themand not writing. And and also because
I probably won't, I don't knowif I'm gonna get Princess Peach right now.
I'm still thinking about it. Idon't really have another game that I
think I want to play until Iunn' Chronicles the Speak of One and Stellar

(01:31:14):
Blade, and that's not to theend of the month of April, so
I think I'm gonna have another monthwhere I might just be playing Rebirth and
then some other stuff. So it'sweird. You kind of felt the same
way. I tried. I boughtit a few months ago, but I
tried Tactica and I got to likethe first safe point, and it's like,
yeah, I'm not feeling this atall. That's how I felt too.
I was totally done after the firsthour or two with that game.

(01:31:39):
I finally opened up my Grand BluesFantasy relink collectors to that in oh,
so we got ten minutes burn outof start work. So what did you
think about GRANDVW Fantasy. It's cool, you know, so the only problem
with it, like, the combat'sgood. The only problem with the game
is imagine if like they dump youinto it, like the story and they

(01:32:00):
expect you to know all this shit. I mean, there's kind of a
glossary and there is like prologue stufflike later on, but imagine if they
dumped you into like Rebirth, likehalfway in and you had like no concept
or like nothing knew nothing about thestory or characters. That's kind of how
I feel about this thing. Butit kind of also feels like they the
anime and the other stuff is thereto set you up for those carts,

(01:32:20):
but you don't need Do you needthat information to play the No? I
mean like they do try to explainit like later on or it can kind
of see some of the characterizations alreadyand they have like yeah, like I
said, prologs and stuff like that, but it's just like from the get
go is a little off putting,but it's better now. Combat's good.

(01:32:41):
That demo they put out a fewmonths ago is really bad because, like
I said, the Gabler fifteen charactersand it's like I don't know any of
these people or why should care.So the fact that this game always has
to start off with six is alot better. And yeah, I like
it. I mean I keep playingit. H yeah, oh one one
you forgot to mention. Oh,I don't know if you care or not,

(01:33:02):
but the Tales of Character creator that'sa way oh right, betw me
in a model, No I do. It's it's like that whole it really
sucks because it's like that whole thingof the death coming in threes. Yeah,
thing, you have the sweeking increator, you have a cut Yama,
and then you have her right,and it sucks. Like again,

(01:33:25):
too young. She does wonderful artwork. Tales characters have no some of the
most memorable characters in RPGs. Yeah, and what's weird is like, oh,
she was sixty three, but shewas a few years younger than Toriyama,
but like yeah, like mid sixties. Yeah. Uh. Only other
thing I'll mention, well, twothings media related. I watched the Halo

(01:33:49):
season finale. That's all right.They finally got on a Halo. That's
nice. They introduced the flood rightin Winna. Yeah, last or last
episode. Yep. They're actually prettygood. Ah. And did you watch
any of that X Men cartoon?I have not, and I have not
watched the I'm probably going to dothat today. And I have now watched

(01:34:11):
the Star Wars Acolyte thing. I'mgoing to do that today. I'm good
for not watching that. That's whenit was all right. Yeah, I've
heard good things before saying good things, so that's great. I'm glad they
did not ruin that because there's thatwas one of the things that when Disney
announced that like biggest slate of stuffthey were doing, like, that's one
of the ones that I was like, oh my god, I love the
cartoon. I like watching that,but I was like, oh, please

(01:34:35):
don't screw this up. And thankfullyI'm glad they did not, even though
I don't know why. They hadlike the showrunner, yeah, a cloud
of yeah, like right before they'regonna put the things on Disney Plus like
why right. So, the onlything I'll say with the X Men cartoon,

(01:34:57):
I think the art is a littlealmost it'd say, almost too clean
because the other one, yeah looksweird. Yeah, and there some of
the voice acting is a little hither mess and the old cast is so
great, but they had to replacesome of the new characters because well some
of the actress died or so theyreplaced like Jean Gray with Jennifer Hale.

(01:35:20):
And it's like the original voice actressnot only is she's still alive, she's
voicing another character in this goddamn cartoon. Why isn't she voicing I want to
get Jennifer Hale just to have arecognizable voice. Probably, Yeah, But
I found her distracting because it's likeJennifer I don't have I don't have a
problem with her as a person,but I have a problem with her,

(01:35:41):
like I always can pick her out. She's always extremely noticeable to me.
It's a voice actress, so likethe minute she said anything, it's like
I know who that is, Likeokay, yeah, And they replaced the
guy who did Gambit with another guywith uh, another voice actor who's fine,
but like the original guy doing gambut is also going to mean the
show. So it's like, okay, maybe it's some money thing. Maybe,

(01:36:06):
but there were or just the wholethey thought that they had better voices
for like using the newer ones.Maybe the one the one that thinks you
pretty noticeable to me is also bigchef. Because the original guy had a
very distinctive voice. I thought itwas cool and this new guy does not
sound like that. Yeah, butthe new person doing Marph is pretty good

(01:36:28):
and Sideclops is actually a pretty goodstandout. That's good. Yeah, I
will have to watch those. Yeah, good cartoon. You know they're doing
those weekly, right. They didn'tdis drop the whole thing, Yeah,
they did did drop two And thenI think it'll be weekly. Okay,
all right, Well I literally hadto start working like five minutes. So
that's that's pretty much the show today. Hopefully you all enjoyed it. If

(01:36:53):
you did, you can hit subscribelike all that stuff. Let us know
what you think. In the nextit's another weekend gaming. There'll be plenty
of you know, new games totalk about. Again, not sure if
we're going to be playing any ofthe Big three, but there'll be something
to discuss for sure. And untilthen, we'll see you later. Everybody but

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