November 2, 2023 • 2 mins
Join us on November 9th for new stories of resilience, memory, and the way in which long-held family secrets so often need out.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Nobody thinks they're joining a cult. People in cults don't
know they're in cults. And my parents thought they were
in a nonviolent drug rehabilitation society, which is kind of
how it started. It was just trying to get addicts clean,
and it did a pretty good job of doing that,
saved a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
First, that's Michael jo Lay reflecting on his unique and
complicated childhood.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But then you isolate people and you start getting group
think going, and then there's kind of like this quirk
of human psychology that they tend to line up behind,
very often a narcissistic and abusive man, and that's what
happened in our case.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm Danny Shapiro and welcome to the new season of
Family Secrets. I can't wait to share ten astonishing new
stories with you, stories of resilience, memory, and the way
in which long held family secrets so often need.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
To come out.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Welcome to season nine, which drops on Thursday, November ninth.
Here's Susan ko Itto recalling the risks she took to
crack the code of her identity.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I said to the receptionist, I just need to get
something from my car, I'll be right back, and I
race walked out to my car and threw it in
the seat and just drove off as fast as I could.
And that was how I got those records which had
my birth mother's name. I was like, I am like
breaking the law? What am I doing here? Is this
(01:28):
a crime? Am I going to jail for this?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
What did I do?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was terrified. My heart was pounding so hard.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And Daniel Wallace, whose role model shaped and surprised him.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
And on the edge of that roof, looking down twenty
five feet or so to the pool below, was William.
He was cut off, jeans, nothing else, spotlighted in the sun,
his long golden hair draping over his shoulders. He dove
off the roof into the pool and lived. It was
(02:01):
clear to me whether that was going to be how
this all turned out, but he did it. He got
out of the pool, climbed the house again, which was
no easy feet, walked across the hot tar to my parents' bedroom,
and jumped off again.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for
this new season of Family Secrets, coming Thursday, November ninth,
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you'll get
your podcasts
Nobody thinks they're joining a cult. People in cults don't
know they're in cults. And my parents thought they were
in a nonviolent drug rehabilitation society, which is kind of
how it started. It was just trying to get addicts clean,
and it did a pretty good job of doing that,
saved a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
First, that's Michael jo Lay reflecting on his unique and
complicated childhood.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But then you isolate people and you start getting group
think going, and then there's kind of like this quirk
of human psychology that they tend to line up behind,
very often a narcissistic and abusive man, and that's what
happened in our case.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm Danny Shapiro and welcome to the new season of
Family Secrets. I can't wait to share ten astonishing new
stories with you, stories of resilience, memory, and the way
in which long held family secrets so often need.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
To come out.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Welcome to season nine, which drops on Thursday, November ninth.
Here's Susan ko Itto recalling the risks she took to
crack the code of her identity.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I said to the receptionist, I just need to get
something from my car, I'll be right back, and I
race walked out to my car and threw it in
the seat and just drove off as fast as I could.
And that was how I got those records which had
my birth mother's name. I was like, I am like
breaking the law? What am I doing here? Is this
(01:28):
a crime? Am I going to jail for this?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
What did I do?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was terrified. My heart was pounding so hard.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And Daniel Wallace, whose role model shaped and surprised him.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
And on the edge of that roof, looking down twenty
five feet or so to the pool below, was William.
He was cut off, jeans, nothing else, spotlighted in the sun,
his long golden hair draping over his shoulders. He dove
off the roof into the pool and lived. It was
(02:01):
clear to me whether that was going to be how
this all turned out, but he did it. He got
out of the pool, climbed the house again, which was
no easy feet, walked across the hot tar to my parents' bedroom,
and jumped off again.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for
this new season of Family Secrets, coming Thursday, November ninth,
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you'll get
your podcasts
Family Secrets News
Host
Dani Shapiro
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations.
The Nikki Glaser Podcast
Every week comedian and infamous roaster Nikki Glaser provides a fun, fast-paced, and brutally honest look into current pop-culture and her own personal life.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.