Coachella To Forced Birth Pipeline, The US Is One Big Murderhouse 07.27.22

In episode 1296, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and host of Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Ridiculous History, Ben Bowlin, to discuss… Coachella owners LOVE funding right wing extremist bullsh-t…, The Georgia Guidestones and more!

1. Coachella owners LOVE funding right wing extremist bullsh-t…
2. Just 27 Billionaires Have Spent $90 Million to Buy GOP Congress: Report
3. The Georgia Guidestones

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty seven,
episode three of Yeah Yeah production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we're taking deep to have
into America's share consciousness. And it's Wednesday, July, which of
course means Miles. You know, I feel like this is

(00:21):
the first day where I'm remembering the days that it's
been like from like maybe doing this a year now.
I'm like, dude, it's National Creme Brulette Day again. In
my I thought we had said this before. It could
be totally off also national again. This is the other
reason I remember New Jersey Day enjoys and you will

(00:42):
be hearing me get into character as Jersey Jack over
the course of the spending next week and Joysey so
you know, cinder block Jack because they call me back
in Jersey on the boards. You know that's right. Anyways, Uh,
Creme Brule the rust of rock candy that gets created

(01:03):
when they flame that ship at the top from the brulee. Yeah,
just like candy glass. It is handy glass. Anyways, my
name is Jack O'Brien a k if I only could
I drink a dude with God and about ask how
I get too Lambbo be drinking flaming hot, be drinking

(01:24):
Baha gold, be drinking sparking maw we burst. That is
courtesy of Fighter of the Night Man on the discord
and uh that gang for bringing it from the discord,
bubbling it up to the surface. Appreciate both y'all appreciate
the great cape bush and mountain dew. Somebody hit me

(01:46):
and was like, thanks for building up Baha blast. I
finally had it. It's not good, and it's like, yeah, man, like,
I'm not proud of my affinity for Baja blast or
mountain dew. It's just a flavor of mountain dew that
is the right amount of rounded and pleasing. It's not
going to pure cancer. It will give you cancer alleged. Actually,

(02:11):
you can't seem to hit the magic number of the
amount of Aja blash. You have to drinking it. Also,
while I'm getting resentments out against listeners and somebody hit
me up and was like, I finally did the water
in scrambled eggs thing trick that Jack was talking about.
It just tasted like water. I was like, motherfucker, did
you think that I was telling you to use water

(02:33):
as a seasoning. It is, It's for it's for the
texture and then pepper if you want seasoning. My friend,
your joysy showing. All right, anyways, I'm thrilled to be
joined as always by my co host Mr Miles Grab
I tell you how are you? How are really really you?

(02:56):
So tell me how are you? How are really really you?
I'll tell you how are you? How are really really? Youth?
So tell me how are you? How are really really you?
I wanda, how I wonder, how I want to, how
I want to how I want to really really really hey?
How are you get to Lambeau? If you If, how
are you get to Lambeau? You gotta get way more friends,
make it last forever, content never end. If how are

(03:17):
you get to Lambeau? You have got to give too easy?
But that's the wainies. So you want to Lambo? How
are you get to Lambeau? Anyway? Shut out? You know
so much about how are you get to Lambeau? That's
pretty much the That's what youth hustle culture has told

(03:40):
me over and over as I look at TikTok Guru's YouTube,
Guru's influencers, it all ends, All paths end at Lambeau.
There it is is the thesis statement that I got
my doctorate in in the school of hustle, the grind, grindology.
Where's that Ted talk where someone's got their hands classed
in front of but the true question I set out

(04:03):
to answer. And they're like, they used a little clicker
to put the new image up. How are you get
to bambo? Yeah? I mean you just remind me of
someone who I really like but just got some Steve
jobs Rims on their glasses and they are and it's
like taking over their whole persona like yeah, and I
really like them, and like I don't I don't mind

(04:25):
it actually because it's working for them and they're like
an interesting person. But I don't know, like it's a
it's a bold move. Try some Steve Steve jobs Rims
and see if it suits your personality. When you said
Steve job Rims, I thought that was for your car.
At first, I was like, yo, what are I'm like,
it's very sleek design. Yeah, yeah, and just it was

(04:47):
developed by screaming at a bunch of developers to say,
if you can fucking figure it out, I'll find the
fuckers who can. For last months al right, well, Miles,
we are thrilled speaking of the fuckers who can we
are thrilled to be joined once again by a writer
who's one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers
doing it. You know, I'm from stuff they don't want

(05:08):
you to know, ridiculous history, among many others. Please welcome, too,
brilliant and talented Ben Bow. Yes, uh back your baby.
Oh man. Well, summer in Atlanta, guys, which is you
know where I'm based, which also means that you know me.

(05:30):
You see you see my pale, pale face there on
the zoom. It's vampire rules for me until autumn, man,
So catch me after sunset. I don't care. Yeah, we're
just talking yesterday about how our our last guest was
getting anxiety from seeing people try and battle the sun
and I like to go, no, I've I'm learned, and
I choose to do battle with a different on it.

(05:53):
I love that I was listening actually earlier today. I
want to check in mainly so I uh so, I
was aware. So I had my finger on the pulse
or does that? Guys whatever, they're not all gonna lance,
but but but I was. I was thinking about that too.
Summer is Summer is kind of brutal here. I almost
want to say it's overrated, but I don't want to

(06:16):
seize and shame people. So the big, the big news
on our end. Now I'm like required by our corporate
over lords to say this, we wrote a book. Hell, yes,
coming out. Damn. You just brought that in like a
magic trick from the side of your thing. Now granted
it was not a good magic trick, but it was
enough for me to be like, whoa, he had that
outside of the frame the whole time. When you prefaced

(06:38):
the corporate over lords demanded, I was like, oh, ship,
we're getting canceled on the air. Guys, welcome to bagel Fest. Yeah,
if everybody have a bagel? Okay, call back to yesterday's
episode from the guests. Has that happened before? Yes, it's
happened like twice. I think everything from Ben, who is

(07:01):
a fucking professional. Oh well, you guys, uh, you know,
after you've had me on a certain amount of times,
I need to help my game. I need to do
a little homework, right, that's very impressively. We even have
a show, a story on the show that you pitched,
which we're gonna get to in a moment. But real
quick stuff they don't want you to know. Tell us
about the book. That's what it's called, right stuff, I

(07:23):
don't want you to know. Yeah. Yeah, we took our
awkwardly overly long name of our podcast and made it
the awkwardly overly long name of a book, mainly because
we thought when we first started that show, we thought
we get fired in like two weeks, you know. Yeah,
so right, so that show stuff they don't want you
to know applies critical thinking to allegations of the paranormal,

(07:47):
to government cover ups too, things that are called conspiracy theories,
which is often a dirty word nowadays, especially with the
way it's being used right in media and what we
immediately so associate with it, which is our right wing
nuts and cartoons, right, just clowns out there. But this
this book is one of several coming out and it

(08:11):
looks at it looks at conspiracies in terms of how
they evolve, and then it also looks at the very true,
very disturbing stories of government cover ups in the past,
Like on a previous episode of Daily Zeitgeist where we
talked about nuclear experiments or nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands,
which is an ongoing tragedy. So if I disappear you guys,

(08:35):
if I get epsteins, hopefully it's because of this book,
that will mean a good job. I thought you were
using disappear as a verb and saying if you disappear us,
which right, I'm tek a fan. You can't threaten us
technically legally on we just checked with Heart legal and
I can't. I mean, I would love to say that,

(08:56):
but I just have to do it. I see Miles
frantically texting like, hey, this is taking a weird turn.
I will say. We started the Daily Zigeist more in
a like in around those probably closer to mainstream news
than it is today, and we have slowly like the

(09:19):
longer we've been doing it, the longer I've had, you know,
just a ivy drip of what is actually happening in
this country in my arm five years now, the more
it's gotten close to stuff they don't want you to know.
It's just it's the homer Bush, the homer Bush gift
where you you emerge like yeah, yeah, man, it's a

(09:45):
it's a weird time. I don't think anybody saw it's coming.
And completely the way that this stuff has worked out
our pal, a good friend of all three of us,
Robert Evans, called it a while back. He's right, we
got no chumps in the squad really when it comes
to this kind of stuff. So I want to thank
you guys for uh for not not shying away from

(10:08):
saying the Piot parts out loud, talking about some of
the big problems and still still being so brilliant and funny.
I'm not blowing smoke. I was actually the US just
cut on this. Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, then moving on.
That was on little compulsion to never be able to

(10:32):
take a compliment, not suck you, fuck you, fuck you.
Wait wait, wait to move on pop culture he's talking about.
I'd be like, I'm all right, I'll hear you out,
but he's like, likes our show. I'm like, shut the
funk up. Then moving on, tell us about the beltfure No,
I'm just saying before before we move on, I want

(10:54):
to I want to shout out one of the most
beautiful moments I had today as I popped on where
we're record on a zoom and we all had these
sharp looking hats that, as as you guys pointed out,
are representing our cities Justin had one as well, and
is the Chicago he had the Bulls hat on. M hmmm,

(11:14):
I got it. I got you guys are rock in
l a. I've gotten the Atlanta hat. And I felt like, first,
I love being able to curse on the show. I
don't do that a lot of other shows. I felt
like we were at a fucking Lids meeting and like
the executive commission of the Executive Board of Lids Convenience
for for the thanks for meeting. Does anyone is that

(11:34):
getting work for LIDS Corporate? Please tell me? Do you
have zoom or team's calls and everybody has to have
what they call a lid on? Because that's my That
was where my imagination where they're like wearing a hit
on the call. Yeah, where's your lid? Man? Oh? I
got the Dodgers had at a Dodgers game like a
real chump a couple of months ago, and it has

(11:56):
not left my head for like more than a couple
of hours. I just I like it. I like having
it on, and it gives me an option that is
not my Sixers hat, which is cursed, as we've talked about.
So alright, Ben, we're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
We're gonna talk about the owners of Coachella, how they

(12:19):
like funding right wing extremeist bullshit, and just generally how
money moves in this version of America that is fueled
by hyper wealthy billionaires. We're gonna talk about the Georgia guidestones.
This is the pitch. This is the story that Ben
brought to our attention that I just wanted to use
as a jumping off point to discuss the kind of

(12:42):
the some of the spookiest I think of America as like,
what a a giant haunted house that we all live in.
I think it's a you know, carnival of horrors both
present and past, and inherently any colonized land is a
haunted Yeah, it's just kind of the trade off for it.
They're like, oh, this wasn't yours? Okay, Well, spooky and haunted, yeah,

(13:04):
all of that plenty more. But first then we do
like to ask our guest, what is something from your
search history? Yeah, so a lot of a lot due
to the nature of my my job, my search history
is trash, you know what I mean. The n s
A is probably like this fucking guy again. So I
used duck duck go with your first of all, what's

(13:25):
your search engine? Not something I usually ask people, but
because you are on everyvery watch list watch list, No,
I like duck duck Go. There are a couple of
things that require you to use Chrome, so I have
kind of a made up Chrome persona. But it's such
an unnecessary song and dance because any any expert in
the world of security will be like, Okay, sure, Dave

(13:49):
Davidson or whatever. You know, I'm not fool in anybody,
but duck dot go. I like your favorite website is
Baseball dot com, Okaya dot com every day, you know,
I just love America's past time. Yeah, uh search history.
So recently I revisited the idea that's that's been making

(14:11):
the rounds a while about banks buying up not just
houses but neighborhoods. It's a it's a real problem, and
it's kind of complicated because there are like, if you
look at the u s all of it, there are
about one and forty million of what we would call
housing units, and that could be anything from an opulent

(14:32):
mansion to uh, multi family apartment building to like what
you think of as a starter house for people, you know,
three bedrooms to baths, whatever of those banks that turns
out are actually these institutional investors are buying a pretty
small slice of the pie, but they're targeting very specific

(14:52):
neighborhoods and that's where the danger is. And this is
huge in Atlanta, this is huge in some surprising places.
One example would be an entire town in Texas got
purchased by an institutional investor and that made the Wall
Street Journal. But the more I look at it, and
you know, very self centered person here, I was like, oh,

(15:12):
maybe I can buy a house, not to profit off
human misery, but things are kind of going into the tank,
so maybe I can afford one, you know, just riding
the coat tails of catastrophe. And uh, I was very
wrong because there is a huge housing bubble and I
wanted to figure out what other players were in the game.
And for years, you know, there's been this I think
kind of dangerous narrative, this partial that's based in fact

(15:36):
about like, oh, foreign foreign investors are parking cash and
real estate in the US and Canada as a way
of keeping their wealth right, making their little dragon hoard
of coins and playing monopoly. Yeah it's Wolverine is that
was that the name of the movie where they and
the Wolverines were the team name. But yeah, it's all

(15:59):
just they are invading via real estate purchases much less cool.
But you know, the Russians are coming for you. The Chinese,
it's always communist nation. Yeah, it gets xenophobic really quickly
because it's the kind of argument that that people who
are like, show me a racist without saying your racist,

(16:20):
love to get really involved in and they'll start with
the agreeing points, which are you know, quantitative and improvable,
and then they'll they'll you can always hear switch in
the tone where they start to say and you know
the Chinese, And I'm like, do I do? I know?
All one point three billion fucking people in that country

(16:40):
were free, So I think that's I mean, I think
that that is a problem. I don't know what you
guys see out in California. I don't have a lot
of on the ground experience there. Anytime I'm in l A,
I'm just like asking you, guys, eyes or someone in

(17:01):
that crew for a starter home, A good start. Can
you take me around to some places that might be
a nice starter home for Yeah, um yeah. I actually
just had a friend of mine from way back who
now you know, works for one of these companies that's

(17:22):
like buying everything up, and he was just like, yeah, man,
like this is you know, he he does, he does
the job. It's probably like not something he's like super
happy about, but he's like, this is everything is going away,
like home ownership is going away because they are using
like they have access to wealth that individuals don't like.

(17:43):
The deck. The deck is so stacked in favor of
corporations that like that's yeah, we're all just going to
be paying rent like very soon. Yeah, well that's there.
The whole built to rent market is like it's the
whole thing where it's like no, no, no, we're not
here for ownership. We're here for repeat customers till they die.
And it's interesting too because I think Georgia actually has

(18:03):
the like the highest concentration of like homes that are
owned by institutional investors. California less so, but I think overall,
like depending on where you live, it's like could be
Black Rock buying up all the fucking the homes and
ship or I think the bigger thing is that we
don't have enough actual like support from the municipalities and

(18:23):
zoning laws to build affordable housing, which is the funked
up part two, where there is certainly a lot of
the proper existing properties being brought up, but we're also
not doing anything to spur the you know, the production
of affordable housing. Either. It's like, oh, you want to
build a behemoth skyscraper, fun face tour, right, that's yeah, yeah, yeah,

(18:44):
well we'll go with that. Oh you want to buy
some like single family homes that are like they're going
to be affordable for like regular people less. So sounds
like peasant talk. Yeah. Anywhere you were in a financial
transaction with a corporation in America, you are losing because
they have so much more capital to work with and

(19:05):
legal expertise, and so it's just, you know, a stacked
deck that is going to get more stacked. Start. Yeah,
so that's what like, you're exactly right, it's nail on
the head. Structural advantages. Those are a big thing, and
they create a positive feedback loop in a very negative way,

(19:25):
I would say, positive feedback loops for them. Yeah, exactly
and it's weird because I was also trying to talk
to I wanted not really both cider at these this
point in civilization, but I wanted to get you know,
news right from the source. Say nobody thinks they're a
bad guy in that situation. So what do what do

(19:47):
these uh? What are these black rocks or these uh
homes for sale? It's number four. They saved a little
on the ink. They passed the yeah, right, So I
like people love numbers. People love numbers, so they What
I found from those sources was that they they said

(20:09):
they offer a better service through renting because they it's
such a corporate where they professionalize it, but it ends
up being worse for the people because think about it.
You are and so many folks in the audience today
have experienced this. You are a would be homeowner, right,
you want to stop throwing your money down the whole
of rent, and so you go to a neighborhood to

(20:31):
fit your specifications. Right, homes are a little lower priced.
This may not be the postious neighborhood in town, but
it has a good school district. Those are the same
things those institutional investors are looking for. So you go
to a house. You say, is this available? And someone says,
you know him, Dave Davidson from from Black Rock. This

(20:53):
guy's everywhere and he says uh, and he says, uh,
we would love for you to rent this home. He said, no,
we'd like to buy it. And they go, oh, okay, alright,
get out. And then you go to the next house
and it's another it's another guy and he's like, oh,
Yavis Davidson, and you're just Dave Davidson with your hat

(21:14):
on backwards. And you go to the next house. Hime,
I'm Mr baseball dot Com. Yes, yes, what you're just
Dave Davidson of your hat sideways. And that's why we
brought Ben in here to tell you. I mean, that
doesn't sound too good, doesn't folks, But that's why we
brought Ben here to tell you about a really exciting
opportunity to invest in a time share that we have

(21:35):
available to you. And and I think also just to
kind of take your both sides take just slightly sincere out,
it is not all companies like Black Rocket, Like, for example,
I just closed on my fifth rental income property I
just bought, and I'm seeing some pretty great returns. And
what's funny is I really started not making money ntil

(21:55):
I had three rental properties. It's just something to keep
in mind. Got stack up my downstream, so I have
sixteen and then that's I mean, that's honestly, that is
a valid point because there are a lot of people
who have like they have day jobs, they have like
maybe they had a house in their family or something,

(22:16):
or maybe they bought a new house they held onto it,
and now they are they are what you will call
mom and pop landlords. Yeah, but they're not the same
thing by any means. These people, the these folks, those
kind of landlords are not the ones going in and
saying I will take both of these mobile home parks,

(22:36):
I will buy this. Yeah exactly. Mobile home parks are
fucking getting absolutely thrashed right now by institutional investors. And
I mean I can there's already like they're already squeezing
people who are already like being like, I don't know
where else I can live it's more affordable than this,
And they're like, we don't know, man, are market research
shows we can squeeze you guys for a little bit more. Alright,

(22:59):
then let's take a quick break and then we'll come
back and get your under it and over it. It
will be right back and we're back and ben bole.
And we like to ask our guests, what is something
that you think is underrated? M okay underrated? And this

(23:23):
is inspired in part by you miles underrated. Making your
own national day or making your own micro nation. The
rules for both of these are super lax and way
more approachable than I ever dream. Yeah, all, all you
have to do this is easier than it sounds. I

(23:44):
swear to God. All you have to do to get like,
what's something you want to have a national day for anything?
Blunts blunts, National Blood Day? Love it so so all
you have to do is get a local representative to
bring it up right in that. Yeah, you know, legislative body.
You can do it at the state level too, I think,

(24:05):
and you guys have, Yeah, we need to take down
a golf court. We we need to do a takedown
the golf course this day. Oh yeah, nationally the state level,
if you think you can state legislature, someone to say legislature,
I think you can pull it at the state level. Um. So,
like obviously you know the big deal would be federal level,

(24:30):
but you can you can get I think the state
Congress to pass something, and really all that means is
you just have to have everybody distracted enough to say, yeah,
fine whatever, right, Like that's great because I mean, just
like renewing the Patriot Act, national national Mr Govitchev tear

(24:52):
down this wall, but then it'll actually be about the
walls around golf courses in Los Angeles and they didn't
know or tear off my balls. But that's okay. I
like this. I like that we can get a national
day going. And then so I'm now, I'm really now,

(25:12):
I'm really starting to strategize what the best way is
to get the okay, micro nation though, what are we
talking to? Micronation my microa? Oh what one example? For
holidays a state versus federal level. Only eighteen states I
think as of last month, have made June teenth a
state holiday. So you can you can make something a

(25:32):
state holiday. I leave it to you. This is you, guys,
because I have compromat on Ted lou and Adam Schiff.
So yeah, we could we could get them there we
getting right into me. We can. We'll present them with
a few ideas. Yeah, give the pitch, let me go
how it goes and when you get bored of that,
then you can do something I always want to do.

(25:52):
You guys know what micro nations are. They're basically they're
like micro states, except they're not fully recognized by other
countries or the United Nations. One of the most famous
is the Principality of Zealand, which is right there off
the coast of the UK. It's an old military fort
and this guy just had a mood about him, moved
there and said, I am you know, it's very European

(26:15):
pop a flag. I'm in charge of this now, right
and uh and so I was wondering how you get
to do that, like, how do you Hutzbah's side? How
do you make that actually work? And the true story is,
it's so ridiculous. It's dumb. Okay, I rarely say that.
I try to be optimistic. It's dumb. Yeah, you have

(26:36):
to step one, raise a small army. Step to arm
yourselves with small nuclear weapons. Oh yeah, that one works.
But the the thing with micro nations, or really any
state geo politically is you just have to get enough
other countries to say, yeah, fine, okay, you know jack Landia,

(26:59):
all right, that works. We didn't like order though, like
what I got, like holler at the queen or some
shi like yeah, like I checked with Mexico. They're good. Yeah, guys,
I have a doctor's note from Mexico and it's it
says been Bolivania is a real place and we're working live.

(27:22):
But but so that's what I think is underrated. I mean, yes, obviously,
getting a state level holiday or a national day is
much more approachable than building your own building your own country.
I acknowledge one of those is more ambitious. But I
think I think it's surprising. At least I was surprised
that you could just if you catch you know, if

(27:44):
you catch a local rep on the right day, they
might say, yeah, you know, why not? Okay, I like this.
What's something you think is over it? I don't really
like to do this one, but I feel like performance
and sling that's what I thought you were gone with performance. Yeah,

(28:06):
I've got a little crog in my throat French rapped
hare or whatever. Yeah, okay, yeah I know that that. Sorry, Billy,
not your best friendated sling blade references in you've made
fun of me before for that, I gotta invited actual genius. Yeah,

(28:26):
I'm always like, don't do a sling blade. Stop it
sling good. Okay, you're you're gonna you you're shoeing for
that sling blade reboot. Man. Everybody knows it. You know,
I know that for our next image, someone's getting photoshop
and so you actually won't even be able to tell

(28:48):
that it's been blended. It's just gonna be the magic
of acting. Yes, uh, overrated. Sometimes it feels like a
beating a dead horse. But scoutis man Supreme Court explaining
that to people who aren't in the US and having
to go, yeah, we're a democracy, like, oh well, who
who's the final authority? Well, remember Lord of the Rings.

(29:09):
We got these like kind of like ring races and
they're there forever and you can't really stop him. It's
just it's weird, and I think it's a it's a
bummer to talk about for a lot of people. I
know we're probably gonna get to some of this today,
but I would make I would rate that even worse
than Summer in Atlanta, which is also incredible. Yeah, holy cow,

(29:31):
I mean that's what is so fast? Yeah, Miles has
access to an app that blends blend's faces. That's what
I do is I just think of things Jack like movies.
He like, I'm like, hey, what about this, And he's like, dude,
it's three in the morning. But you're a rocky and
I'm creed um. So for everybody who actually you as

(29:56):
Ivan Dragon was, man, it's crazy. It's my face on
a white like with white skin, and I end up
looking like Elon Musk or anyways. I know you're trying
to make a serious point, but yeah, no, no, no,
let's stay on. Let's stay Yeah, it's absolutely Yeah. The

(30:17):
Supreme Court has been for the past six years just
just a force for business. Like what we're about to
talk about actually, like the fact this new world order
that's not that new, but it is now completely unbridled
and just running free of you know, billionaires are now

(30:38):
the designers of of our world, and like that's where
that's where we're getting stuff like yeah, what if like
corporations owned by billionaires owned all the houses instead of
people and you know, all all of this ship we're
talking about and they're doing it behind closed doors and
it's it's not benefiting anyone except for you know, extremely

(30:59):
wealthy people. I can't even get away with a late
fee of the library. You know what I mean? Right?
And I said, what better time to plug my appearance
on Behind the Bastards with Robert Evans, where part one
of the Clarence Thomas story featuring truly just dropped. If
you want to fucking scream inside your body, listen to this.

(31:20):
This is a four part fucking dive into somebody. So
and the first three are just like his life and
you're like, oh no, he's real, like a fucking weird
Fanos like person who's just dealing with a lot of ship.
Fanos actually was probably a little bit better, more more convincing,
had something I believe done. But well, yeah, all right,

(31:44):
let's move on to a story. The the hook is Coachella.
The thing hanging on that hook is the entirety of
our crumbling system. Yeah. Yeah, So the Coachella Owners, which
a e G. Is the company that most people are
probably familiar with. But they are owned by the Antialts Corporation,

(32:05):
which is not, as you pointed out, mild the made
up Nazi company from the Man in the High Tower.
But it doesn't corporation. I'm like, yeah, yeah, they own everything.
You're an a e G that actually stands for the
anxiouts Entertainment group if you were aware, or a excess
dot com where you buy tickets like they they they're

(32:29):
behind Coachella there, behind Stagecoach. They own a ton of
sports venues, like they're they have their hands on fucking
everything like in the in terms of like live entertainment.
And we talked recently just just some context about how
Coachella is like this marketing event that was created by
people who are like, yeah, man, people really liked the
like Woodstock and like those idealistic things. What if we

(32:51):
took that but made it completely just marketing and devoid
of any value other than like cultural signifiers. What what then? Right?
So Chella like all the way down is you know,
it feels very it starts to feel more gross when
we get through this story where you figure out it's
like is it a collection. Yeah, it's like a donation
gathering event to put more right wing wackles in office.

(33:15):
So not to say that the line is that clear,
but when you start digging in popular information, if you
follow that newsletter of the work of Judd Legum reported
along with the Rolling along with the Rolling Stones journalistic
and fucking all right, Yeah, exactly. They're they're doing their thing.

(33:36):
They reported that, you know, the company, the parent company,
the Acts Corporation, made a pretty sizable donation to r
a g A, which is Republican Attorneys General Association. Just
days after the Row decision, the jobs decision that overturned
ROW came down the r a g A. Like the
day Row was overturned, they blasted out to their supporters said,

(33:57):
hey man, we could really use some cash, man, and
because we're gonna need to put in more attorneys general
that are gonna fucking lay this fucked up human rights
violating hammer down. Are you in? Can we count on you?
And clearly the on Shot Corporation was like, yes, you
can just give us a few days to get that
money together and we'll get it right to you. And
this isn't the first time this company or their owner

(34:19):
has given to right wing causes either. Like in March,
his company donated a combined like seven fifty thousand dollars
to the GOP Leadership Funds, f are like focused on
getting majorities in the House and Senate. They're you know,
like they're called like the leadership Funds or whatever. And
he also seems to have a knack for giving to
anti lgbt Q groups as well, like the Alliance for

(34:40):
Defending Freedom, the National Christian Foundation, and the Family Research Council.
When he pressed about it on Shoots, Defense was called
it fake news that he but they're like, these are
these are fucking tax that you have? This this is
document you talking about and added quote I unequivocally support
the rights of all people without regard to sexual orientation

(35:02):
end quote. Okay um. And then at time he's like, look,
I can't see sexual orientation, like right, everyone looks the
same When I never had sex, it's really not relevant
to me. I don't really want to have an opinion
on that. Right, you know, I give to a lot
of people. And that's the thing. I want to take
a side note here, because you're you're pointing out something

(35:23):
that I wish more people acknowledged, especially in this field.
The more innocuous the name of an organization is, the
more fuccory they tend to be up to, right, like
like the the Family Research Council, right, Alliance Defending Freedom.
It's like back when the CIA had Air America. And
that's yeah, that's that sounds dope. That's fine, But now

(35:47):
it's like a knee jerk reaction for me. Man, every
time I hear a really innocuous sounding name for a
political organization, I'm like, the clean sounds because they're Yeah,
when those groups are getting together, all the founders like,
what if we called it the Gay People Shouldn't Exist Alliance?
And then people like no, no, no, They're like, why

(36:09):
that's what we're here for. You got to say something
like the Family Research Council. Do you have any idea
how many Harvard and Yale graduates we have working to
come up with a beautiful name that sounds perfect and
hits people's brains exactly right? Yeah, we don't call it
Gay People Shouldn't Exist, you dumb funk. Even if we have,
we have all the money in America to spend on

(36:31):
coming up with the right name for them. So when
he was pressed about it, they then found it's like, okay,
you know what, I'm gonna stop funding any groups it
turns out that are involved with any anti l g
b t Q anything. But then Pitchfork, like a year
or two later, looked into it again and he was
just giving a smaller organization to have a history of
anti lgbt Q like activity, and so again, you know,

(36:55):
this is just sort of when the parent company was
asked about this whole you know, their support for four birth,
they were like, oh, took a very similar path of
Like one of these spokespeople for the company said that,
you know, did the company and the owner, Philip Ancios,
does you know he believes and he totally in the
right to choose and did not support the reversal of row,

(37:18):
And either the company or the individuals himself received, saw
or was aware of a Republican Attorneys General Association fundraising
solicitation based on the reversal of Roe v. Wade. Uh
t a C has contributed to r A g A
since at least, no contribution to r A g A
by the Anciens Corporation or mr ass has been based upon,

(37:38):
informed by, or motivated by any R A g A
position on ROW or abortion. Mr Asos makes contributions to
numerous organizations, usually for specific reasons. He does not review
or support each of the positions taken by such organizations. Okay,
I gotta go fuck just a straight up run on
word blast to be like, yikes, that's how that? How

(38:00):
is that any different from someone saying, Okay, did did
I donate to the Nazi Party? Yes, but it's because
I liked the uniforms. I did not do much other research.
I think the arm bands are cool. It's like their
stance on vegetarianism and not smoking. Okay, so get off
my back. Like if you if you do you think

(38:20):
everybody should smoke, you want to animals, then who's the
real monster. I'm just a single issue donator. Hey, look,
I met him in a reddit above subreddit group where
it was people who had a beef against art schools
that they didn't get into. That's what we bonded over first.
I didn't know that's what he was up to. That's
not fair, Like I just only know him from Reddit.

(38:41):
That's the same energy that all these people have. But
this is just again another example of how the billionaire
class has a public facing company that's aligned with a
festival like Coachella, yet in private, the owners and even
in public the company itself are actually a bunch of
sick fox who are hell bent on ding democracy and
just I just wanted there's a there's an interesting report

(39:04):
that came on the last week from Common Dreams and
a few other groups that just showed just how much
billionaires contribute to the two parties. So the Congressional Leadership
Fund and the Senate Leadership Funds, these are both funds
that and shoulds direct donated to directly raised it combined
on eight point three million in the first sixteen months
of the two campaign cycle. Nearly half about ninety million,

(39:28):
or forty percent, came from just twenty seven billionaires. And
On Shoots is one of these twenty seven billionaires. A
whopping eighty six percent of the GOPS billionaire money comes
from quote Wall Street tycoons, which are the people who
benefit most from our shitty tax laws and loopholes, so
that they have a vested interest to stay in the
game of influencing politics. And then on the Democratic side,

(39:51):
you look, they raised about a hundred fifty four million
in that period. About twenty five point eight million, or
seventeen percent, only came from nine teen billionaires from Democrat Democrats,
so they're only holding to nineteen Democrats aren't giving as
much but still outsized donations, and a majority of those
billionaire contributions again comes from the investment sector. I mean,

(40:12):
you know, the Clinton administration is the one who let
Wall Street become a total fucking casino. So it's been
a good it's been a nice relationship since then. And
in the shape of the government like Wall Street logic,
like we're we're not you know, allocating funds for like
projects to help the public. We are investing in these things.
And then we use Wall Street logic and like investor

(40:34):
call logic when we're like talking to the press about
fucking like well we're means testing everything, Like everything has
to be like framed as this like financial thing that's
like paying back to which Americans especially it needs a pension,
get a four oh one K. That's the new rule,
right right exactly. I mean this story just I feel

(40:55):
like we could just cover this story every day from now,
like this is the whole thing. They like that is
so much money that is being put in by these
billionaires and they're not doing it out of kindness or
the because they don't like pay attention what happens their money.
Billionaires pay way more attention to what happens to their

(41:18):
money than you and I do. Like they love their money.
They are absolutely they're doing it because they expect something
in return and will make sure they get it, or
they will destroy the person who doesn't give it to them.
Like that is the mentality of a billionaire. That is
how you become a billionaire's by like liking your money

(41:39):
and making it work for you at like you know,
two degrees that are just completely absent of any like
morality or anything like that. But so this is what,
like the the Supreme Court has made possible, is that
we have an entire system that is just designed by billionaires.
Like when you look at the founding of Coachella, like

(42:01):
the two people who founded it were just like people
in punk bands who are like the sort of people
who maybe in the past generation like start like creating
like a community, like you know, build, build something cool.
They're like cool people who like you know, rocket stars
like to hang out with like there it like plugged
into the artistry. And instead, you know, they are fed

(42:25):
into this system that is controlled by billionaires. And the
results of that is that like Coachella, a cool idea
becomes a funding mechanism for right wing like politics and
for ideals that just end up protecting rich people's money.

(42:46):
That is that is what the entire American project is
at this point, for for all intents and purposes, and
it's all happening behind closed doors like the public. Yeah,
well the right, but it's not not behind closed doors.
It's just not the part that the media pays attention to.
And that is because the media is also like the

(43:07):
amount of money that they're investing. They're creating so many jobs,
like the people who like created coach hell like that
every like New York Times, fucking you know writer, they're
making like a good living. They these people's money is
putting people's children through college, and like those people now

(43:28):
take their marching orders from billionaires and like that is
how you get to a system that that we're in
right now. That it's just it's completely fucked. Yeah, I
mean that that Upton Sinclair quote couldn't be true or
true or where it's difficult to get a man to
understand something when a salary depends on not understanding it,

(43:49):
And that's been true since fucking Upton Sinclair. Also looking
at this be like whoa, I feel like we get
angry at the New York Times. We get angry at
and like I feel like they they're not making the
mistakes because they want to be Necessarily, there are billions
of dollars that are sending thousands of people's kids through

(44:12):
college that are buying that bias, and like yeah, and
same with the people who found at Coachella, And now
like are you know working these like swanky giant things
and have like a million dollar mansions and ship like that,
and you know, like that is this is the system.
It's like billionaire money just buying a friendly you know,

(44:33):
a friendly to billionaire atmosphere. Yeah, and all this focus
on their maintaining their wealth has just led to just
complete destruction of social safety nets in this country and
then crimes and I can't be because no one has
options or supported because they're none of ring cameras to
hack or whatever fucking logic they're trying to. But like

(44:54):
but since like you know, they can buy votes, we've
just been sliding the scale the other way. And we're
just like you're saying, Jack, we don't live in a
place that considers the needs of a working person. We
live in a place that always centers what the desires
of the billionaire classes. And then this can dress it
up as policy or these other things, but the gist

(45:15):
is always gonna be if this ship takes a bite
out of the billionaire classes fucking bank account. You can
pretty much bet that this ship will not pass because
they have too much influence with the people who have
the votes to make things a reality. And I just
want to say, those twenty seven billionaires that were bankrolling
the GOP super PACs alone, their wealth increased by eighty

(45:39):
two point four billion during the fucking pandemic, meaning that
the fucking barely ninety million that they gave is less
than one tenth of one one percent of their overall
pandemic era gains. That's all the costs. That's like, that's
an investment that the average person would salivate for, you know,

(46:02):
like you would do dirt for that. I would, I
would commit crime for that. But the other thing that
I think is part and parcel of this we're talking
about the complicity of this system at a structural level,
is that there's no real insider trading law for Congress,
And it's it's an a political point and people sometimes
don't like to hear it, especially if they consider themselves

(46:24):
very partisan, right, and they're saying, oh, you know, but
my side or this one is the good one. For
some reason, like Pelosi, I believe is all is cyclically
in hot water that somehow mysteriously goes away when people
learn about the profiteering that occurs on a routine, regular
I would say normalized and systemic basis there. I know

(46:48):
for a lot of us listening today, this is maybe
we're preaching the choir. Maybe the statistics and specifics are new,
and maybe it's really disheartening, But it's the ruth. It's
a lot of conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy on the
part of get measurable. You can, yeah, you can tie

(47:09):
the amount of their proximity to an industry to begin
to understand why they vote a certain way or why
certain legislative ideas are injected into bills and things like that.
It's pretty clear. But again, if the if the mechanism
that people used to understand it is going to be
pushed through like a fun house mayor of corporate interests,

(47:31):
the ship that they're going to see is not going
to be that. It's gonna be Ah Joe Mention, Christian Cinema.
It's all them. It's like, no, it's all of you.
But you're lucky that these two were particularly lacking moral
scruples that they're like visibly just going to be like
the centerpiece for it for it all. But really these

(47:52):
are just these are just like a zip on the
gigantic ass of our fucked up political system where it's
like they need to zoom out look at the whole nasty.
But because it's the rules sound like you guys were
talking about kids before in some previous episodes, you know,
and I hope everybody's kids well listening to this, but
if you have ever caught your very young child trying

(48:15):
to cheat at a game, it sounds like that's the
kid who wrote a lot of these laws, especially around
super past. It's like, don't know, it's not directly you know,
contributing right now, I get to have the power. You
don't have. You don't get to have the superpower like
I have the Yeah, well, hold on, what kind of
control are you using the wait, that's not fair. You

(48:36):
can put you can set the buttons to turbo. That's
why you sucking me up with Chuen Lee. That is
an argument that Miles got into with my six year
old recently. By the way, Miles is always pushing to
uh pull the focus out on the whole nasty But
I will say exactly stop zooming in on those zip man.

(48:56):
But I mean this is oh my god, this is
this directly ties to the national mood of like people
just being like what like what like we the surreal
phenomenon of having the president that we elected being in
office and not being able to do anything he wants

(49:16):
to do, and the fact that this isn't given as
the explanation is like, well, he can't do it because
the billionaires don't want him to do it. Like that
that should be eighty point font on the front page
of the New York Times, like every time something fails.
But instead it's like, yeah, cinemon mansion got in his

(49:37):
way again, and you know that's instead of like, yeah,
this should be all we're talking about it. But you know,
those same billionaires own or invested they own the you know,
Washington Post, or they own the corporations that advertise on
the New York Times, and so you have to like,

(49:57):
you know, listen to a podcast story about Coachella to
hear somebody talk about it. I mean, this is it's
just a it is frustrating, and when really every time
if there was like I don't know, some shred of
journalistic integrity. You could just say, here's the bill that's
being proposed. Here who here's who stands to make less

(50:21):
money as an industry because of these changes, right, Because
like even with something like Build Back Better, we're talking
about clean energy and we're talking about moving towards renewables,
So that sounds like the money is going to be
moving away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy. Now,
when you say the money is moving away from fossil fuels,

(50:42):
you're damn sure that the fossil fuel industry is going
to be giving as much fucking money as they can
and getting in the ears as many legislators as possible
to make sure that money doesn't go towards renewables because
they probably most companies were probably more invested in trying
to kneecap renewables then seeing the future and being like,

(51:02):
you know, we should probably get it on this ship too,
because that's that's kind of where it's at, and now
we're the ones paying for it because a group of wealthy,
fucking people are saying, you know what, in this instance,
I can't stand to make less money, and guess what
I can spend fucking less than one percent of what
I made in the pandemic and make this ship disappear

(51:23):
neo feudalism. That's them shaking my fist in the air.
And I think that's the hard part, I think for
just in general, Jack, like you're talking about how like
you've had an evolution from starting the show right where
there's a part where we really do want to believe
that the way that we've been raised or taught of
how the political system works is actually centering the the

(51:47):
American you know, And that's like the first lie that
I think most people have to Like. I think again,
many people are still reeling with the fact that, like,
is that not true? And then because if that's not true,
and it's like, well, then what do I have to do?
And I think that's scary too. What does that mean
I have to do? Then? If no one's looking out
for me? And I think being outraged and getting you know,

(52:10):
more aware of what's happening around you is is the
key to that. At least that's moving to our micronation. Yeah,
we're going to be micronation of my one my address.
I think I think we should open it in the
dilapidated water park river Country in Disney World. You know,

(52:31):
just that they're already used to like having a micro
nation down there. Yeah, old theme parks and malls. They
have kind of infrastructure like plumbing and ship like that, ventilation. Yeah,
I don't know, right, I just got like my any
any micronation I've involved in is going to involve water parks.

(52:52):
Colonize the water parks. Thank you. The time has come.
Colonize abandoned malls and water parks. It's time to colonize them.
All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back.
We'll talk about Spooky America. And we're back. And so, Ben,

(53:17):
you brought this through you you said this over. And
I did not know about the Georgian Guide Stones. I
think I had maybe heard about them years ago, maybe
on your podcast, But I think they've been called like
the American Stonehenge, like which appropriately they are very white
supremacist in origin, so as any American monument should be.

(53:38):
I guess, oh there, Oh they have a white supremacy
origin story the Guide Stones. Yeah, I think so, yeah, right,
like that. We don't have definitive proof who built them,
but we right because I have the USA today because
the idea of what the guide stones are of like
stone slabs with like instructions written to about in a

(53:59):
camp used as a calendar and the fucking clock. And
I was like, okay, that seems innocuous enough, but yeah,
and the the instructions are like how to repopular, how
to exist, how to govern the planet Earth after a
nuclear holocaust definitely you gen or some sort of global
near extinction level events. So the inscription is in a

(54:23):
number of different languages and they're like a new Ten Commandments,
the more religiously minded would call them. Definitely. No, I
can't officially say the identity of the person has been revealed,
but it's been pretty it's pretty compelling evidence based on
a documentary that arrived at the identity through unethical means.
But if you look at the inscription to get creeped out.

(54:45):
First off, there's nothing else in Alberton, Georgia. It is
far away from Atlanta, as far away from a lot
of stuff. It touts itself as like the granite capital
of the world, because every town has to have something right,
And if you look at the sscription, it is at
the very least pro eugenesis. It says maintain humanity under
five hundred million in perpetual balance with nature Number one.

(55:09):
Number two guide reproduction wisely improving fitness and diversity. Mmmmmm
diversity though, that's good that it'll throw them off the center. Yeah,
but maybe by diversity they were like some Catholics or like, yeah,
a diversity of shades of right exactly. We might have
some Swedes, but never too many, you know how they are.

(55:33):
But the guy who commissioned this was going by a
pseudonym R. C. Christian, which is like so dumb. It's
like when you see Christian. Yeah, it's big soda. That's
that's who made the guidestones because of some kind of
I would say they're insincere, but they might actually be bonkers.

(55:55):
Local politicians in the area the guide stones came under
a lot of heat because they were seen as part
of the Alex Jones style New World Order, and one
political in particular that you guys know of was tent
toes out on destroying the Georgia guidestones was Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah. Yeah,

(56:16):
she was like this is this was I kid you not.
This was one of her platforms running for office. She
was like, first thing I'm gonna do is blow up
those guidestones because funk the New World Order and people
people were like, yes, finally a reasonable voice in politics,
and like one awkward guy who's like, what what if

(56:37):
they what if they agreed with you on a lot
of exactly you nailed at Miles. That's the thing is
so nuts to me. It's because even a cursory amount
of research will show that the current right wing continggent
that was against these things and regularly vandalizing them eventually
leading to their leading to the explosion and they're being demolished,

(57:02):
they would have agreed with everything the builders of the
guide Stone set. So it's really scoring an old goal
on their field. And I'm not above the schaden freud,
you know. I hate that. There's I hate that. I
hate whenever you miss something like unique because as as
we're talking about off air America or the United States

(57:26):
excuse me sorry Canada, Yeah, okay, that one marka like
shoots far above its weight class when it comes to
spooky places, you know, like they're ancient places with like
ancient civilizations that have so much more history than the
United States today, which spent a lot of time erasing

(57:48):
the history of the civilizations that existed before it became
a thing built right on top of it, just moved
right in and started using their dishes. That's a real
thing that happened. In Plymouth. They showed up the plague
that the Europeans that brought with them had wiped out
the entire like a bustling city, and they just moved
into their houses and started using their plates. And then

(58:11):
they were like, man, it's really nice. Have you been
to Ohio? Like the Ohio's got like streets and ships
through the forest. You can just like ride your horse
through its. Yeah, they're like the settlers, Uh, settlers just
came through them. We're like, we're good here. And there's
there's so much That's what I mean. There is such

(58:33):
a proliferation of strange places here in the United States.
And a big part of that, as as you guys
brought up earlier, was that the US is kind of
a haunted house. Yeah, I am of the opinion and
that it's always Halloween in America on many levels. And
the Georgia Guidestones is only one example. In this pretty

(58:56):
recent example. It was built in nineteen eighty, so it
didn't have that long of a track run, not near
as much as some of the other things were going
to discuss, Like you, you guys, are you live much
closer than I do to the infamous Winchester Mansion, Right,
I've been Winchester Mystery. I've never been either. But this

(59:16):
made like, just thinking about this made me be like,
what am I doing with my life if I'm not
visiting the Winchester Mystery House. But that's like, so that's
where the heiress to the Winchester rifles, like, you know,
a death merchant, the heiress to like a death merchant,
lost her tether to reality and just kept building and

(59:38):
rebuilding a mansion like full of like hidden passages and
stairwells that like lead into a wall. I don't lead anywhere.
I don't know. It's just it's a great monument to
what America actually is, which is a bunch of demented,
extremely wealthy people building just wherever the hell they want,

(01:00:00):
whatever the hell they want. And it's not it's not good,
it's creepy. I had heard that part of that was
wrapped up in tourism. I'm not sure. I'm not I'm
not an expert on this, but I'm wondering for you, guys,
how how much of that you see as a true
story of a person going mad and and you know,

(01:00:20):
being surrounded by synco fans and no one being reasonable,
or how much of it kind of accreated over time
and folklore. I mean, if I if I were somehow
an owner of a place like that, I'm just gonna
be honest with you, because I'm not the best person,
I would fucking lean into the hauntings and thank you,
thank you for validating that. Guy. I mean, when like

(01:00:43):
rich people do stuff, I think it's easy to really like,
Oh they've unlust their mind, or they're rich. We don't
live like them at all, and they just live in
a world. Or they're like you know, I've always as
someone who's not had to do much for anything I have,
I've really like secret doors. So I'm just gonna put
a bunch of those around and that helps me give

(01:01:05):
get a sense of satisfaction and achievement. And you were like,
oh my god, who would do that? And you're like,
I don't know, some fucking man child or something like wealthy,
rich people with too much money and too much time
on their hand. No, I'm gonna I really want some
kind of like secret door kind of think in a house,
like but I'd have to build it myself and it

(01:01:27):
would take forever, and I would have Like the thing
is with those you gotta make them look good, you
know what I mean. Take book that you pull has
to look like a real book. I would I would
screw it up. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, it's only a mystery.
Thing that I could imagine doing is like a hole
in the ground with a carpet over it that is
like people fall through if you if you walk over it.

(01:01:49):
But so it's dangerous. So your your house is like
a fucking Kevin McAllister by necessity, just because I'm not
I'm not handy enough to build a secret door like
a light switch the flip and then like the bookcase
spins around. I was I was thinking, like, how are
you living, Jack, Like, what what has happened in your

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life where you thought by necessity, it's time to really
start thinking of trapdoors because these people are coming at you,
well they're coming from me Gold you know, it's a yeah,
I don't know. America is an underrated like spooky place
built on top of the apocalypse of a superior civilization,

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So any anything that kind of further underlines that, and well, yeah, yeah,
I think you know when the sort of like m
O of the country is to bury and not acknowledge
that your worst transgressions. It's like being in a house
or someone has a like a stench coming from another
room and the owners insisting everything's chill. You're like, I'm like,

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what is everything? Well, yeah, it's fine, it's fine. Don't
just don't worry about that door. I didn't then and
sounds coming out of it. I don't know. I'm talking
to the realtorm. I'm supposed to get a refund on
that anyway. But check out this. I got a vertical
spit here so I can do my own outpast store.
That's pretty cool. And you're like, that's the vibe here
is kind of weird. They're just it's not it's fine.
It's fine, it's fine. It's they have five vertical spits

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next to each other, just like they can't they can't
stop themselves from like acquiring vertical spits. Like it's just
the like, so much of it is just the product
of a diseased mind and a diseased culture. I highly
recommend Jerome, Arizona, which I didn't see on any of
these lists, but it's you know, outside Sedona. It's just

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a ghost town that was like a booming town around
the ninet twenties and then the copper mind shut down
because I think they figured out that it was like
poisoning people and so everybody like it turns. They went
from like hundreds or like tens of thousands to like
hundreds of people, like two hundred people and most of
them lived at like the sanitarium and like you can

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just still go. It's all just like left like that.
There's a tourist industry that's like ghost hotel and ship
but it's pretty it's pretty cool. There's a town in
Pennsylvania it's just sucking on fire, Centralia, Pennsylvania. It's just
been on fire. Everybody accepts it. They're like, oh, yeah,
that's the uh oh swinging a miss on our part,
but yeah, that that whole thing is on fire. I

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mean I I always wasn't it. They buried their garbage
and lit it on fire, and it's just been on
fire for like, you know, decades, sixty two years something
like that. But the thing that I always found astonishing
and I don't know, I suspect this is true. But
one of the weird things to me about the US

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is everybody in any state, whatever your neck of the
woods is, everybody has like a creepy place and it's
it's always a seriously creepy place. It's never like, uh
oh yeah, we like the old um, we like the
old band in skate park or something like that. It's like, no,

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this is where, this is where they were wearing the
skins and uh you know one of them was the sheriff.
And everybody's like, oh that, yeah, yeah on Fourth Street.
Yeah no, I remember that. What do you mean drying rack?
Don't worry about it. Don't worry, don't worry about Yeah, boy,
you are great at questions. That's why I love having
you over. What schwarma from the spit over here? Actually,

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funny thing you asked, because that the Mexicans learned how
to do output store from the Lebanese immigrants who brought
the concept of swarma to Mexico. Anyway, So that's my
new vertical grip there too. Yeah, sixth one I bought
this week. Actually, yeah, what the I mean? It's so
funny that we have like Chernobyl is like such a

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like known term and like everybody knows that story and
there's a great HBO show about that. But like America, meanwhile,
has a town, an entire town that was evacuated because
they lit it on the fire underground and there's just
and like it's burning, like it's a hell built out
of like the garbage that they were producing. Like it's

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how I'm assuming in Russia they know the name of
that town and like they have movies about that or
they would. Yeah, I think, you know. It's always it's
fascinating to read travel guides from other countries that are
for people traveling to the United States. It's a real
cold shower. It's a real eye opener. Don't don't don't

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talk about politics that people will be less informed than
you write. I saw that like a German book one time,
and they said, also guns are normal, Yeah, try not
to hang out around them. Yeah, but try to remain calm,
as your reaction may seem suspicious. Yeah, like stuff like

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that the first sentence and all guide books for people
coming from abroad here, it's like, so you believe what
you see on TV? Huh, Well, here's some pointers to
get you actually acclimated for what you might see in
the US. America one giant murder house, which is to
so many people are constantly baffled by the inequality in

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the US too, like from abroad, and you're like, no, man,
like I said at the times, like the US just
has great pr like Visa via the propaganda machine. That's
all it is. That's it. And I get that white
be like, oh my gosh, they were like unhoused people
in Los Angeles, like I thought it was Beverly Hills.
It's like, no, it's like most places in the US.

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There's just only two groups of people, people that are
making it and people that are barely surviving. M because
like gang, I wanna let let us know. To Ben's point,
like everybody has their spooky spooky as local like home
or human slaughter or whatever. It is just spooky, was
the spookiest thing from where you grew up and not

(01:07:58):
like be like national news to like if it's too big,
like fine, but yeah, you hit me with those deep
cuts because I'm I just don't give a shit about
that stuff. It's funny, like when I think about where
kids go, I remember be like, yo, you want to
go to the old Nazi headquarters they built and like, yeah, yeah,
it's the palaceae There is a Nazi summer camp in

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the Palisades, and then it's like out deep in the
Santa Monico Mountains and you can like walk there. My
wife and I walked there while she was nine months
pregnant with our first and she like when we were there,
which is like a forty five minute walk into the woods,
her she thought her water broke. I was like, damn,
oh man, I really got egg on my face. Making

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you come out here for but you go see a
dilapidated what would have been the Nazi headquarters in California
or whatever, because the owners are like the third Reich's coming, y'all. Yeah, exactly.
By the way, it looks like ship not not worth
the like I would say, barely any Nazi stuff, Wow,
way overrated. I'm going on YELP. It'll leave shitty reviews.

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Really yawn fest. We would be like, there are actually
no Nazis here, uh there, these are barely buildings. You
have to walk for almost an hour, three out of
five stars. Yeah, I might see the owners actually for
false advertising. Yeah, then truly a pleasure having you. Where
can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff. Yeah,

(01:09:31):
you can find me at Ben Bulling on Instagram in
a burst of creativity at Ben Bolling b O W
l I N. You can find me on Twitter at
Ben Bolling h s W, where you can get a
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But uh, more importantly, you can also check out shows
I do a number of them. Stuff they don't want
you to know. Got our come in October eleven, I'm
required to say that, I think. And then you can
also find Ridiculous History. One of the coolest things about
Ridiculous History, which is just what it sounds like, is that,

(01:10:12):
in addition to hear in our episode on Nazi Summer Camps,
you can hear a recurring series called Weirdest Flexes in History.
History is Weirdest Flexes, which happens whenever I can persuade
Jack and Miles to come hang out and hopefully that
time a couple of compliments short of us actually uh actually,

(01:10:37):
I hope this doesn't make it a friend break up here,
but had on on recently and we were we were like, hey, sorry,
I love you, but weirdest flexes this kind of a thing,
kind of kind of a thing that we do. But
we talked about a history of reality television, which is

(01:10:59):
a way darker, way, way darker than Yeah. Yes, so,
uh so I'm volunteering you guys for that. So check
out check us out there. Um, that's it. That's those
are those? Yeah, that's it. No, keep the awkward parting,
Keep the awkward party. And then is there a tweet

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or some other work of social media you've been enjoying.
I am a big callback Okay, so I am a
big fan of a sketch comedy group out out your
Way in Los Angeles called Chris and Jack. And for
several years now, one of the guys, Chris, has they
they've made this recurring thing about trying to make a

(01:11:46):
national holiday. It is called July six Park. It is
a terrible pun on Jurassic Park because the guy Chris
love Jurassic Park. I should you not. They are like
super into this and it comes up every year and
if they're listening, I follow, like I tune in in

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early July and then stay through July for the after aftermath,
so check them out next year. Like they actually flew
to Hawaii to where parts of Jurassic Park were filmed.
And the funny thing about it is one guy is
super into it and the other guys just sort of
putting up with his best friend, you know. And I
think we've all had those interactions before. So July six Park,

(01:12:29):
it just it makes my day. Miles, where can people
find you with a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me
on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Checkout Miles
and Jack got mad boosties. If you like ninety day Fiance,
well guess what so the funk do I? And you
should check out for Day Fiance where I get pretty
weird on there with my co host of Alexandra and

(01:12:49):
also Zeke Gang. Please do us a solid I see
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that you can come here and talk about old dilapidated
Nazi structures and the like. And by old dilapidated Nazi structures,

(01:13:12):
I mean this country. So I just want to. I
want to find out yelp dot com. I found a
the worst review I could find for the Nazi compound.
It was a three star. Uh. Most people are pretty
They're like, hey, it's pretty fucking freaking. But one person
was like, the worst is a three stars. Someone said, look,
it's this Nazi compound. Gives you some fucking you know,

(01:13:34):
uh stats on it from how it was built in
the ninety thirties and says once you get down there,
the abandoned buildings are open to look inside. Colorful graffiti
lined the buildings and makes for great photos. Three stars
because a lot of the time you find stoners and
people just getting drunk and ruining it for everyone. What
like what you guys were talking about the smelly cannabis? Yeah,

(01:13:56):
is it reeks of weed? Ship like what smells like weed?
And a lot of people wearing Jordan's on the hike
not great hiking shoes. You're like, what the funk are
you doing here? Um? Anyway, it's not much of a
dog whistle then a scream into the racist abyss. Let
me see some tweets that I also like. This one

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is from Katie Delaney at Katie Delaney tweeted, I had
a dream I was dating a man who lived in
a sewer. But to his credit, he made it really
cool and vibe down there, just like her idea of
like in the dream being like, oh you live in
a sewer, and then were like, you know what, okay,
let's all it's it's kind of okay, you know what.
It's cute. You made a cute down here. You can

(01:14:43):
find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien by the
way that Nazi hike recommended to me by a oh
also yeah, and also check me out on Behind the Bastards.
If that wasn't clear enough, yea, god do it. Let's
see a tweet I've been enjoying. Oh, Bonnie tangi uh
wrote will you marry me on the beach? And she

(01:15:05):
said wrote will you marry me in the sand? Hope
it funks up a couple's holiday. It's just strong, strong
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