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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty one,
Episode three of Dirtdilly's I guyst Day production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, March twenty seventh,
twenty twenty four. My name is Jack O'Brien aka exercisings overrated.

(00:24):
My body is old ass. Fuck Danna only stretching, Dannan
no plunges. I don't give a fuck now. I agree
with Trump. Nana no no, no, no, no, no no no, Internet.
We have limited heartbeats. That is a last resort. Poppa
Roach aka from East Eager Full twelve, twenty nine. In

(00:45):
reference to some advice I shared that I recently got
from my personal trainer, Donald J. Trump, that maybe maybe
exercise is bad, but once you get old, exercise hurts.
And maybe we do have a limited number of heart beats.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Bro, you guys reps for muscle be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, that's it. You'll only got ten reps. That's them.
I got ten curls per bicep for my lifetime. That's
what I've been given. Anyways, that voice you asked, that voice,
that lovely voice coming all the way from party. Well,
we are thrilled to be joined in our second seat

(01:25):
by very special guest co host, talented writer, stand up comedian,
advice columns podcast host. Please welcome to this show, the
brilliant and talented Sophia Alexandra.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Thank you, thank you so much, so excited, thank you,
thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't have any ka.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's no problem. You're coming to us all the way
from so.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Much motherfucking cheese. You are not ready.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You could I could tell by the way you the
that you've just been walking through clouds of cigarette smoke
for the past couple of days. And that's how you
know you're doing it right.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, delicious man baguettes with cigarettes in the middle.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
That's what breakfast every morning here.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yes, well we are thrilled, Sophia, You and I are
thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a
very talented writer, stand up comedian, podcast host of The
Bechdel Cast, taking down the patriarchy one movie at a time.
They also happen to have a master's degree in film.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Ever heard of it film, specifically screenwriting, but.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I thought it was pronounced hilm Hale wants yeah oh,
I mean I am familiar.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Have how you say cinema. Also, the most anagrammable name
in the English language it is Caitlin Doronte. I'm not
in tula Ak Latin answer ut, I sorry. I do
have to add that just so people know when we

(03:11):
say your name is anagrammable, we're not fucking around here,
all right, Lauren d Titanic Titanic, and we do have
a Titanic story.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Crazy because I know the story of Kaylen and Titanic
has just been It's one line. It's a single line.
It's not event diagram.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's just a line exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So the fact that the name is anagrammable, so I'll
kill myself tonight, I don't care.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
We can all rest.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Know this.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, this is the apex so we could reach as
a society.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Is that Yeah, no it is. It doesn't make sense
how inagrammable your name is, but it is perfect, perfect?

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
How are you doing, Kaylen?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I'm just fine the end.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
What super classy European city are you in right now?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Well, I am in the classicly beautiful European city of
Los Angeles, California, but I actually will be in Europe
not to blow all my plugs at the very top here.
But I will be in Europe in Paris, okay, doing
stand up comedy and seeing Hans Zimmer in concert. Thank

(04:26):
you so much and wow. After that, I'm going to
Berlin and Copenhagen and Dublin and then the UK for
a Bechdel Cast tour, so everyone should come and see me.
I'm doing stand up and or Bechdel cast shows in
these places.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that's amazing. Caitlin, When are you going to be
in Paris? Just in case any Paris listeners are listening,
that's your.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
So right to ask me that I will be this
podcast by the way, are oh my gosh, cross.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I will be in Paris in early May. The dates
are I'm gonna say like May sixth through the ninth,
or fifth through the eighth or something like that. I
have all of the dates for all the shows I'm
doing on my website, Caitlin Durante dot com slash shows,
so all the info is there.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Thank you so much for sharing. I hope everybody comes
to see Caitlin, Thank you, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
And Berlin, Berlin.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Have either of you done comedy in France or Germany?
How you say Germany?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I've done comedy in Paris and I've done comedy in Luxembourg.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I recently learned that the movie from the podcast blank
Check that the movie green Book, the Academy Award winner
green Book, is a massive hit in France.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Interesting, so is Jerry Lewis.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I know this is my question. I'm nervous for you
both going into the French comedy scene armed with like
your vibes are not very green Bookian. I would say, I.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Take that are a major compliment, and I appreciate that
I had. This will be my third time doing comedy
in Paris, huge brag for me.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I mean, goddamn, the first time I did it.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Actually it might be the fourth. I don't know. I've
done it a bunch of times. One of the times
I did it it was on a boat that I
swear the boat was called Savage Garden, which it is
the name of amazing, incredible band that we all know
and love, and I did that.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
It was actually that band is named after the boat.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, all the songs were recorded on that boat.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Just like how I'm starting a band called Titanics, Lauren
d Titanics family time band named after.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's amazing. Well, uh, I, I do not fear for
either of you. I fear for the city of Paris
because they are going to catch some sharp comedy. You know,
I don't know. I don't know what the fuck I'm
talking about. All Right, Caitlin, We're gonna get to know
you a little bit better in a moment.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
My grandfather, Joe Biden sharp cock my comedy.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Sharp jokes that are gonna catch anyways, I know, help
me put the razor blades in the rain jar. Anyways,
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, a couple of things. We're talking
about major upsetting news out of Baltimore early this morning.
The Franciscott Key Bridge fucking just collapsed, So we'll just

(07:54):
talk about that briefly, and also check in with Cable
News because they are having a literal field day. They're
just Yeah, the Fox News has some theories about this
bridge collapse, so we'll we'll check in with that, and
we'll also talk about the fact that we don't understand
the universe and.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Never have question work and never will.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
And maybe ever will that Like, according to the Jim
Web telescope, you might notice the James Web. But we're
pretty tight at this point.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You're like headline, all of us on the universe saying
what do.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, literally, the entire astro community all got together and
said do what when looking through the gym web telescope
and discovering that it's not it's not telling us what
we thought it should be. Things are expanding at irregular rates.

(08:59):
Might be no Big Bang is the basic is the gist?
The Big Bang might be a thing somebody just made
up and like, this is not not.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
A television show on CBS.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, bunk off, Okay, Young Sheldon, are so mad right now?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
It was Big Sheldon that put this conspiracy out there,
and that's it was all to for that sitcom. We'll
talk about the Diddy raids. Maybe maybe we won't. I
don't know. We'll talk about the Titanic door that Kate
Winslet floated to safety on me.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
With the premiere expert on Titanic on.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
The pot, do you believe it? This might be the
only story we talked about, to be honest with everybody,
But it sold for over seven hundred thousand dollars at
auction along with other movie Yeah, so it was flex
all of that plenty more. But first, Caitlin Dorante, we

(10:01):
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history?

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Okay, well, obviously I'm looking at Shrek stuff and I
found out Slash. I think someone told me someone damned
me on Instagram and told me about something called Shrek's Adventure,
which is like a I don't think it's quite a
theme park, but it's like some sort of attraction in London.

(10:30):
And I will be going to London on said Bechdelcast
tour and we're doing the Shrek Tannic Tour AKA, we're
covering Shrek and Titanic on this tour, so I have
to be going to Shrek's Adventure. And then that sent
me down a rabbit hole and I discovered that there's
a whole section of Universal Studios in Singapore called Far

(10:54):
Far Away, so there's a whole Shrek theme park basically,
and so I just have to go to all of
these places. So I was just googling and doing some research,
looking at the photos, and so that's my recent urch history.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm wondering if Shrek is popular in France, is it.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
In any way comparable to the other live experience that
has been getting a lot of press recently, and that
the man who put on said it quote unquote ruined
his life.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh, I thought you were doing around about the plug
of Caitlin's live show again.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
No, I was talking about that Willy Wonka man. That
that truly, that truly.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, the fire the firefest of of exact.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Media, I mean not according to the website, it is
not similar because these families in the photographs look very
happy taking a picture next to a man in a
Shrek rubber mask in front of that's actually Shrek. Oh yeah, sorry,
my bad. Next to Shrek himself in front of Big Bend,

(12:08):
just looking and waving at somebody in the sky off
in the distance.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
So I'm going to that and I'm gonna have the
best time.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Will you wave to the sky for me when you go?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Of course?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, yes, sk I feel like mileage may vary based
on what country you're in, but Shrek is universal and international.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Literally a property of Universal.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
More universal. Did you get right?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Actually just went to Universal Studios with my kids for
the first time on Saturday morning?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Pretty did you go to them? Ride?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
We know? They we just we hit the like it
was poor and rain out. Highly recommend that go while
it's poor and because then the lines are very short
and we hit the Simpsons.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right, did you go to water World the show?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
No, we had to like leave right before everybody. I know.
But the theme, the concept of water World I mentioned.
I was explaining it because I thought we were gonna
have time to do it because to my kids, going yeah,
My six year old like two days later was like,

(13:29):
what was that movie? What was that world you were
talking about where everything's like there's no land. I was like, son,
you're talking about water World, And I can tell you
are of me and mine kind, because yes, that I
remember when that ship came out. Man like, oh my god,

(13:52):
I was so excited, so bad that the world is water.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Water World. It is wild that you're bringing this up
because this is very relevant to my overrated.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oh no, let's go right to your overrated.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I've already promised to kill myself once, not make me go.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
There again, which is you're reaching your You're almost halfway
to your average for appearances on this daily.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
It is not water World. The it's not even a ride.
It's a show. It's an experience, and therefore, well actually Okay,
this is not my overrated, but I do kind of
think it's overrated because I don't want to watch a show.
I want to be a part of it. Put me
on a water World ride, you know, but you will get.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Splashed, Caitlin, and then you're a part of it.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, okay, I guess my actual overrated is Kevin Costner.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I hate him so much. I deaply hate that man.
I don't know how he is as a person. I
don't know what his politics are in real life, but
him as an actor, I can't stand him. Sorry, everybody
who's obsessed with Field of Dreams, I think that movie's overrated.
Everyone's going to come for me and slaughter me probably,

(15:17):
But there I said. I think he sucks.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, say more. I want to hear more.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I don't think his politics are great, so I think
you can feel okay about that.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think he I mean, he looks like his politics
are not good. Yeah, we're not like shocked about it.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
He actually, like really tried to be a leftist and
like his like every time he looked in the marror,
he's like, no, this doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
This is He's like, no one is going to accept
me everything.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Like I could just like you could plant me in
a field and a fucking country club would sprout up
around me. You know, like I just look like that.
I look so Republican.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
You can't get around that Republican. No, it's just it's
it's overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, it's not even.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Given moderate face, you know what I mean. That's like
Bruce Willis, That's like, okay, he's a moderate.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, he seems pissed off enough about certain things.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Kem. Cosser is just straight repub pase.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no, piece of shit. Kind of knows
it at some level that like gives him gastro intestinal distress,
but ultimately his conscious mind is not aware that he's
a complete piece of shit, and his politics are really
constructed to prop up some idea that he's not a
piece of shit.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Wait, I need to know, though, Caitlin, other than Field
of Dreams, least favorite Kevin Coster movies.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I mean, I also don't like the movie water World.
I think, sure, he's not the experience. It's right, the
experience is actually better than the movie.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It really is. When you take when you take a
like spectacle movie and like spend so much money on
it and it doesn't work, and then you take the
main actor out of it and like put a bunch
of stunt people on a live stage to do it
in front of you, and like that stands the test
of time. There might be something with your there might

(17:12):
be a problem with your casting on that first Yeah,
you know, they're just like what if like the you know,
Kevin what if water World except no Kevin Costner.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, what if he wasn't there?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yeah, I honestly would maybe like it better.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Then.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
I don't buy him at all as a romantic lead
in the Bodyguard. I don't like the whole narrative around
dances with wolves. I've never seen Yellowstone, but I'm sure
i'd hate it.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh it's his Robin Hood.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Okay, no, give me Robin Hood, Meden tights anything. I
don't want this like serious.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
There's something there's something about him that is really convincing
as an athlete, and like that's why I do like
him when he's playing an athlete, including in the Robin
Hood movie, because he's just like a guy who's really
good at shooting arrows, Like that's all he really is.

(18:11):
But I think like his charisma is the same as
a great athlete, which is like not there's not much there,
Like they've just been never had to like develop a personality.
So that's why he's so convincing as that is, like
he just has. It's like if you had an athlete
act in a movie like that kind of feel like

(18:34):
you always feel like you're kind of getting an interview
with a baseball player after a baseball game, and like.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Just it's like if Travis Kelsey had like an extra
minute after.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
This, Yeah, if Travis Kelsey was like slightly more boring,
you know.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, he did this like he presented some award at
a couple oscars ago. It might even been like the
twenty twenty three A Screwed anyway, he it was like drivel.
I don't know what he was saying. He had no charisma.
He was I think it might have been for Best Picture.
I don't know. It was something and it was awful,

(19:12):
and he's not good at talking and I hate his
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
What I think is underrated.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Okay, I'm really scraping at the bottom of a barrel
here because I've just been on this show so many
times and I'm running out of things. But I do
think this is true. I think that Cris Picks cereal
is very underrated. That's right. X.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
They are the little hexagons.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yes, I was gonna say octagon, but there's no way
they're octagons. They don't have they got to Yeah, they
have to have six.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Honestly, Caitlin, what not a fair?

Speaker 4 (19:54):
They're good.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Counterpoint, very good. Correct.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
You need to spice them up with some you know,
sugar and milk.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
They're not sugar enough, but they have a very unique consistency,
very unique milk they do.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
And sometimes I'll just like eat them as a snack
instead of like eating chips. I just want something dry
and they're very good in like a party mix. So
everyone's all about that Checks mix. No way, no how,
it's about Chris Picks Mixchris Mix.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yes, Christmas Chris Picks mix.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
And I always make it at Christmas time.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
So there you go. Mm hm, Caitlin special Chris Picks
st Chris Picks Chris Mix. Yeah, I agree, uh And
I really do like it with milk too. They stay
crispy longer than most cereal.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
It's in the name Chris.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Round.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
They really deliver on that name.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
No, but like it's it's how there's like, okay, So
oat squares also do this thing where like they stay
crispy on the outside, but they get like just the
right amount of moshey on the inside. And I feel
like the number one thing in your cereals you have
to find out that right like consistency for you when
it gets milk on it. And I always want there
to still be some crispies left, So I don't know,

(21:23):
I might fuck around.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I'll throw some berries in that bitch.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, they're versatile.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Oat squares are a bit heavy, a bit dense for me.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
It can't up too many.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
You could do not overdo it with the oat squares quick.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Girl, think you can handle two cups.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
They got a nice subtle sweetness. I'm a fan, but yeah,
don't don't bite off more than you can shoot with that.
Where's Chris picks? Chris picks also like they turn into
these little like milk gushers, you know, like the milk
all over. Yeah, it's really nice. I really like this
under right, thank you. This is all very gross sounding.

(22:06):
You get a nice milk gusher in there. But anyways, great,
overrated and underrated from one of the greats to ever
do it. Let's take a quick break and we'll come
back and talk about a fucking bridge collapse. For Jakes,
Jesus Christ, We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Fucking seamless, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
And as the former guest said, the trademark of the
show hurdling changes of pace and tone, we're going into
just a horrible tragedy in Baltimore early this morning. The
Francis Scott Key Bridge, the one from season two of
The Wire. I remember them sitting there looking at it.

(22:59):
I believe from Frank Sabaka. Is fucking beautiful. It's f
fucking picturesque, is what it is. But anyways, that bridge
collapsed after it was hit by a container ship, which
sent several vehicles plunging into the water below. An unknown
number of workers were also on the bridge repairing concrete
ducts at the time of the crash. It's truly like

(23:22):
the video is. I mean, if you turn on CNN
right now, when you're listening to this on Wednesday, it
will be playing like they are just playing the shit
out of this thing. But it is really staggering, just
the violence and speed with which it collapses. There is
a detail from the story. Two people were rescued from

(23:42):
the water after the ship hit a pillar supporting the bridge,
and like two of the people survived, like we're found
rescued from the water after the ship hit a pillar.
So one was in good condition and refused treatment and
the other was seriously injured and was being treated a
trauma center. But like the person who was on that

(24:03):
bridge and landed in the water and was just in
good condition and refused treatment. Is one of the craziest
things that I've ever just like incidentally come across.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
In this especially the water has to be so cold.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, you know who it had to have been?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Because I was trying to like play in my head
like when I read this news, like who couldn't have been.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Rose from Titanic as well?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Isn't unbreakable?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yes? And yes?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
So yeah, I was thinking my grandfather, because this motherfucker
hates hospitals, hates doctors, Like, I mean, he's dead now
I'm talking about him, like he's still here. Well he is,
but what I'm saying is like, you couldn't have paid
him if you survived falling off a bridge. He's like, Okay,
I already had something terrible happened to me once today yeah,

(24:54):
now you're gonna take me to the hospital. That's the
second terrible thing. No fucking thank you. So I think
that's it's the only kind of person that we're reading
streaming at that point, someone that is so anti like
going to the hospital for whom it's such a that's
to know for me that they're like, I don't know,
I'll brave hypothermia.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Let's fucking yeah, let's roll the dice on this.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know, refuse treatment really does give like they do
not want their bodies studied by science vibes to me.
But yeah, it's a horrifying story. Obviously, something that we've
been noting of late is just whenever there is a
piece of news that is getting a lot of people's attention,

(25:37):
it immediately just starts being flooded with conspiracy theories. And
it's not just the Internet at this point. Obviously, we
talked about Kate Middleton, like the Shoheo Tani thing, the
best baseball player in the world. His translator was fired
for gambling. It's like, you know, I can see where
there would be some suspicion, but people immediately were like, oh, yeah, no,

(26:00):
this person has a massive like gambling problem and like
it's over for them, and like in the case of
this bridge collapse. On Fox News, first of all, Maria
Barbaromo was asking the important questions, like will this disaster
that people are still being rescued from, mak inflation worse?
She raised that question and then asked if it was

(26:25):
somehow caused by migrants and Biden Biden's wide open border,
and then.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
On okay, Jack, is that now what you thought?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Right? Okay, that wasn't your first thought.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Okay, okay, way, don't lie about it. Well, no bridge collapsing,
that is migrants.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
That's migrants. Okay, obviously they need a bridge to get here.
And yeah, Matt Schlapp did the other thing. Those obviously
all on our mind and blamed COVID lockdowns for Yeah,
that just makes sense.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
First things, the virus attacks the lip tard. Second thing
it attacks is the pillars of a bridge.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Thank you, prove me wrong, science, But there is like
you see the lights on the boat go out and
people and apparently there was a it issued a may
day just before the collision, and that allowed bridge operators
to halt traffic and potentially save lives. But people online
are like and that's proof that it was a cyber attack,

(27:27):
probably from China. So we don't know, but people are
wildly speculating, as we are wont to do these days
because bad bad universe. Hey, speaking of bad universe. We
don't understand the universe and never have speak for.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yourself, Jack, Yeah, we understand it perfectly, Okaylyn.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
And I were just like taking notes because we were like,
this is too easy before.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Too too easy. So there are a handful of things
that I thought I knew about theoretical astrophysics, like so
you got your gravity right, got your light, got your speed?
Theory of relativity I don't totally have a grasp on,
but like I know that like maybe time and space

(28:18):
and speed like affect one another. And then the universe to.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Watch back to the future a few more times in Interstellar
a couple of times and then you'll get it.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
The important speed barrier is not the speed of light.
It is eighty eight miles per hour, and that is
the point at which you can start warping speed third time.
But the one that I thought I knew was like
kind of a basic one doesn't really make sense to me,
never has. But the universe is expanding, right, we knew
that because it started by a big bang. Right, those

(28:53):
are like two of the core ones that I feel
like I had trusted them on. Well it turns out
they fucking lied to us. You guys, No, they're just
like they So they had this theory everything was kind
of expanding at a constant rate, and then they would

(29:13):
look in the Hubble telescope and they would be like, accept,
it doesn't like when we point it there, it's not
going the same speed as when we pointed over there.
And they were like, well, that's probably wrong. We're just
like not pointing it correctly.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
But now this that's why I could never be inside
scientist because the media I would be like, I'm not
doing it right.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, exactly, I'm not wrong. But that's like they've had
evidence for years that like they weren't. But they were like, no,
we just fucked something up because it's such a sort
of load bearing assumption. Like they the whole thing was
like big bang leads to expanding universe. But for their

(29:55):
previous model to be true, it seems like they needed
everything spanning at the same rate and they got so
now they got the super duper high def kind of
James web telescope picture of deep space, and they that
also said, hey, not expanding at the same rate. They

(30:16):
were like, we're gonna keep keep assuming it is. Finally
they checked James Web against Hubble, like locked the data together,
and it seems like all doubt has been taken out.
It is no longer you can no longer say that
the universe is expanding at a constant rate, but it is.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Still expanding at an inconsistent rate.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, it's expanding at an inconsistent rate. No me, So
this is the thing. It's this paper was published by
the same assholes who did the dark energy thing. Have
you heard about the dark love but you.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Have an agenda and people you hate and you're like,
it's these motherfucking out again.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Energy.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Dark energy is like the mysterious force behind the universe's
accelerating expansion. Like they're like, well no, no, So basically
they like did the math and they were like, none
of this makes sense unless we create this invisible force
that we haven't really found yet. We'll call it dark energy,
and they want a Nobel prize for that. Basically, they

(31:27):
are like geniuses of making me recognize that I know
nothing and you know, I thank them. I'm extremely good
at knowing nothing, so they're really like kind of hitting
my sweet spot. But yeah, so now their paper states,
with measurement errors negated, what remains is the real and
exciting possibility that we have misunderstood the universe.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Motherfucker. That's the possibility and reality I'm living every day. Yeah,
give me something to cling to. Are you serious right now?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Also?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Okay, to expose my own lack of knowledge. How does
this in any way relate or not relate to string theory?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, okay, cool, I don't want to thank you. Okay, No,
we're all stupid. Great, I love that for us.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
But I can't even like, no matter what rate the
universe is expanding or not, and however it's consistent or not,
I can't even wrap my head around that because what
is it expanding into?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Like exactly more universe?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
But what I know? I know it doesn't like there
was nothing and then the universe expanded into it. Like
I don't get that.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I'm noting it, but are constantly like my kids turn.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
A beautiful dummy, I not meant to understand. I smell flowers,
ipet dog.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I rate I make dumb podcasts, We're good, I know.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
The other thing I cannot really wrap my head around
is like, so, because we are here on Earth unless
you've got listeners in Mars, Like.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Am I right?

Speaker 4 (33:14):
These these migrants from Mars collapsing our bridge grins? So
we you know, live on this We're all pulled down
by Earth's gravity, and so like I'm like, oh, I
have to go somewhere it's forward or backward or to

(33:34):
my side. But what I never quite can comprehend is
that like in the universe, like exactly above me, like
however many light years there's like other solar systems, and
then exactly below us is other So like it's just
happening in all directions.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I don't now, not to make me feel bad, but
I totally get it.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Oh okay, no.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Fucking way do I get it.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
The more we talk about how big the universes, they're
like more I want to hyperventilate.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
It hurts my feelings, it really does.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Have you ever had this feeling?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Okay, it's like you're okay, You're at the beach and
you're like looking down into sand and you're like going
really in it, and you're seeing how fucking much of
the sand is made up of how many different things,
and you're seeing all of the different little grains for
what they are, and then you start realizing how much

(34:37):
sand there is, not just the beach that you're at,
but in general, And do you just start feeling sick
because that happens to me.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, it's overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's too much.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
It's like that too beautiful and I'm only looking at
a little bit of sand and I'm like I cannot.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, yeah, I have an existential crisis anytime I really
think of about anything. It's like the end of Men
in Black, when like it pulls out and it pulls
out and it pulls out and you're like, oh wow,
it's the Earth and then we're like pulling out even further.
And then it turns out the Earth is just one
of many, or like even the galaxy is one of
many marbles that these huge aliens are playing with, and

(35:17):
I'm like that is probably what.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
It is, right.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I'm like literally getting hot, like you can see me
getting pink, because like this is too much and like.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Our little human brains simply cannot comprehend it.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I had that thought when I was younger, Like, what
if we're just like a little bit little like tiny thing,
you know, Like because when you get down to the
quantum level, it's like so chaotic and like you can't look,
you can't really tell what's going on down there. So
what if we're just like down at the quantum level
of something much bigger.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, I think we all deeply do feel inside us
that we are, Yeah, because we what's so unsettling about
like acquiring enough knowledge or brain to actually comprehend even
a little bit of that reality. That's when you're like,
oh now I'm fully like fucked because like this is
too much to comprehend. But I do want to say,

(36:14):
like the sad thing always not always, but a lot
of the time freaked me out to the point where
I'd be like, Okay, this is too much in a
bad way. But like I remember the first time I
actually saw shooting stars when I was in Maine, and
it was during like a meteor shower and I was
like on the dock on my back, like looking up.
There was no you know, light noise, you just could

(36:35):
really see it. And for like my whole life before that,
I had pretended to have seen shooting stars.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know, nobody.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I would always be like, oh did you see that.
I'd be like I did.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
She's like totally did not. It's like those like what
you stare at the painting and you see a thing.
I was like, totally didn't. Like you guy, yes, I
will lie about it. I'm like brain freeze felt it
totally turns out genetically some people can't feel it. I
can't feel brain.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Freeze really like when you eat ice cream, you.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Cannot you cannot feel like wow, I'm like my mouth
is cold.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Is that what you guys mean?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
We're like, no, that's not at all what it is,
and I cannot conceive of it.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
I get brain freeze all the time.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I know, and I have been faking it this whole time.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I know what it feels like. Option.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
It's an option. It's an option.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
So that's how I felt when like I was seeing
shooting stars, or like when I thought I was seeing
shooting stars, like yeah, we all see them, and then
the one time or I actually saw.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Them during that meteor shower.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
It was actually like one of the most like so
shaking experiences in my life in like a good way
where if I could slay there and for like just
a limited amount of time have a window and see
so many things.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Then like that means that it's possible to have a
window and see so many things all the time. And
that made me feel like so glad to be alive.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
It is kind of the opposite of the sand feeling,
even though it's still you are tiny and the world
is big.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, that's a little bit how I felt when I
looked at that first James Webb picture of the universe
where they were like each one of those galaxy, Oh
you thought it was a star galaxy? Motherfucker. That is
we are like one of a trillion in our galaxy.
Each one of those is a galaxy.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
So it really boggles the mind. Also, how do we
even have like telescopic photographic technology to be able that.
I also don't understand that millions.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
And millionlog genius is like building on there that it
is like cool, Like it's like the stuff that we
can do with science like is pretty impressive, and we
tend to right out like the wonder at like that's
amazing that they built that that like just all these

(39:07):
geniuses like working together without like they're they're not James
web you know, but they're like still putting in all
the work to put this thing out there so we
can get this picture, so that we can realize we
don't know shit, which is pretty wild, but it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I appreciate them most beautiful way.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah. But yeah, now, I because children do ask these
questions like they my kids are constantly like, so what
is after the universe? Like what? Go like, you're yeah,
so the last star and then what And I'm just
like I don't fucking know. But at least I had
when they were like what started the universe? I could
be like, big bang, uh, yeah, I know that one,

(39:51):
you know, like and now I don't even we don't
even know that.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Oh my god, you got nothing.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I got nothing for It's always when they're taking a shit,
I think like there's something with the bage old nerve,
Like there's a you know, the digestive nerve system that
is like that. It's like relaxation and digestion and like
all those things are tied together. And it's like the
second my kids sit down on the toilet, they become
like the biggest stoners in the world. They're just like,

(40:20):
what is it all mean? Though, I'm just like what
to think about it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Have you ever Dad,
have you ever looked at the sand on the beach
and been like.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
You're like, no, I'm gonna send you over to Antie
Sophia's house.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
It's been fucking her life up over this for a
long time.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
You talk to her, Yeah, exactly. Actually, the thing they
say about the beach is that it's all parrot shit.
Parrot parrot fish shit, parrot fish shit. That's what sand is.
The thing that breaks up sand is like parrot fish
eating rocks and shitting out. I mean it's not the
only thing, but it is often like white sand is parrotfish.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
It seems like exactly what a Jack's kid would say.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, I know it does sound like something that was
made up by a six year old, but no, it just.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Sounds like Jack O'Brien's kids.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, you're like, surprise, these are just strangers.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
I don't know if parrotfish were a thing, but now
that I'm looking at one, I'm like, oh, they have
a little beak.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
They have a little beak, and they kind of have
little human teeth. I saw one in an aquarium and
I was like, you are a fucking nightmare. My god,
you are.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Fish have teeth in a way that should not be okay.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I'm I'm not okay with it.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Like, if you require a night guard, you can't be
a fish.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
If they do wear nightguards.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
That's fucked up. I have a nightguard. No, Like, we can't.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I can't be looking on my teeth pattern in your
face if you're a fish like that, it's not okay.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Sorry, we gotta cut this short. I've got to take
my parrot fish to the orthodontist. It's because brace is tightened.
His teeth are all jacked up. Yeah, but anyways, the
report concludes sleep tight motherfuckers at the end. It doesn't,
but it might as well. So that's that's that. I

(42:22):
take it as like cool, more mystery in the universe.
So let's me so tiny. That's that's what I take away.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Let's take a let's take a quick break and we'll
be right back. And we're back and all right, it's
that time to uh get a Titanic story in while

(42:53):
we have Caitlyn Durante, Okay, Lauren d Titanic.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yes, I so badly want this dong to swell up
behind this segment.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
But this was beautiful. Thanks. All right, there it is
the dancing by the way listeners, really good stuff from

(43:28):
Auntie Sophia. All right. The big cellar at Heritage Auction's
recent Treasures from Planet Hollywood event was the door that
saved the life of Kate Winslet, Kate Winslet's character Rose
in Titanic. And you know that wasn't heavy enough to
hold Jack Dawson out of the freezing water.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yeah, don't even get on this. It's not about size.
It's not about there wasn't there was enough space, yes,
but it's about boo and c it was.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
It wasn't buoyant enough, yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
And so I'm tired of everyone screaming about it.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
And it would have frozen because they would have been
submerged in the cold water.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Regards that they would wait is so much for that
she bade.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Anyways, she barely made it out like as it is.
You think with his cold ass like up there with
her that it would have been fine. M M.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I think they would have been happy if she just
like ended up like eating his like body on that door.
As it got later, I'm like, just let him die.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Chewing on his ass, his marbled ass also.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Like and then she would have got brain freeze.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Come on, Jack, you were a bit of fun, okay,
you she wasn't going to leave her life behind for you.
Come on, Jack, would you think this way? What if
she had just turned like cold as Kevin Spacey and
was just like what do you think? This is Jack?
Obviously this is you. You can't get on this with me.
You know?

Speaker 4 (45:03):
What do you reference.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
If she had just like been like but Kevin Spacey
and what? Yeah, I don't know, just like I feel
like sometimes he'll like give like an ice. Maybe I'm
thinking of the Iceman Cometh the.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Like just the iciest thing is the Iceman.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Old the coldest hearted? I don't know. Yeah, I guess
Kevin Spacey is not a cool reference anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Foreigner song? Is that right now?

Speaker 4 (45:33):
You think mister Freeze or whatever from.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, I'm thinking I just mean like cold hearted and
calculating and just being like, yes, agent Kuyan, you know,
I don't know. He never says that, and fucking usual suspects.
It's a long day, but all right.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
The coldest thing he does in that movie is just
walk away.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, but he doesn't so cold.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
It's so fucking called ice in his.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Veins, all right, So it sold for seven hundred and
eighteen thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars more than Indiana
Jones's whip Jack Nicholson's Axe from the Shining. But I
don't know. Some of these price tags are making me wonder,
like if any of you remember like when the NFTs

(46:26):
first came out and they were like, this art just
sold for like this art full of JPEGs just sold
for three million dollars, and then I feel like.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
A lot of ape is eighty five dollars, Like Bill
Murray's red Rose bowling ball from Kingpins sold for three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars and the Axe from the
Shining only sold for one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
That feels feels like things are off there. Well.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Also, okay, the door, First of all, where do you
put that? How do you display it? It's huge and
if someone comes over, they're like, what's this random hunk
of wood in your house? I don't think a lot
of people would recognize it for what it is.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
No, it's not iconic, like it's just a shape. Its
visual water. Yeah, yeah, it's super iconic in terms of
like the plot, like architecture. It's very important, but it's
not a thing that I could pick out of a lineup.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
You want to be able to explain it to other
people for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
You're buying a conversation that would never happen otherwise, say.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Chap, what is that?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
What's that? Or that?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
For the rest of your life, and that's what you want.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I guess, Hey, Chap, oh, what's that random piece of
shit leaning up against your wall?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
There is that firewood that you need to chop up
because that's what it looks like. Whoever bought it needs
a swimming pool or some kind of pool, and then
it should just float in the pool. And then they
should just get like dummies of the Titanic characters and
position them. That's what I would do if I bought it,

(48:10):
and I did buy it, because I'm the person who
you are seven hundred nineteen just.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Under a alias of Lauren d. Titan.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
But honestly, that fool idea is kind of the best
idea I've ever heard, Like buying a piece of memorabilia
and like letting it serve if you will like that
door will be serving kunt in that Pool's be honest.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, it's just how you're floating trying to get reactions,
you know.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah. And also you could have people be like, okay,
can you get two people on here?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
You know, Well, do you remember a few years ago
James Cameron did he like hired scientists, the same ones
who just told us probably that the world doesn't make sense,
so we know we won't understand the universe. Ever. He
hired like professional energy darkness, the dark energy. Yeah, and

(49:09):
he hired people to conduct to like recreate that because
he was so sick of people being like Roe should
have scooched over and there was room on the door,
and she was so selfish, blah blah blah. He's like, no,
that is not true. So we hired people and proved
that the BOO and C was not there. Yeah, So

(49:30):
that was like a newsworthy story a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
I also couldn't believe it because I'm like, if I
had James Cameron like fuck off money. Mm hmmm, I'm
out here in the streets hiring a scientist to prove
something from a door in a movie I made, like
twenty plus years ago. Yeah, that's what made me be like,
he doesn't have a family or friends that love him, Like,

(49:56):
why would you? Yeah, I you were having a good life.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
He would just think that's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah, and just move on. But he's no, I have
to prove it.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Yeah, at least he would have made an effort to
like get it. But then maybe it's not heroic if
he tries. If like he keeps clambering up onto the
door and it's like she's like, no, no, you're you're
fucking thinking it, like you keep you know, so they
just accept it. Yeah, he just resigned to his fate.
You could also so apparently it's part of a door frame,

(50:31):
which again goes to indicate that everybody thinks it's a
door and it's part of a doorframe should suggest that
like nobody knows what the fuck this thing looks like
at all and might not be worth you're seven hundred
thousand dollars, But I guess you could use it as
part of a doorframe, like that would be and just

(50:52):
be like that doorframe you just walk through. Look at
you so dumb, you don't even know you're part of
a letter. Yeah, you've just walked through the doorframe that
saved Rose's life, my dear.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Right, it's not even a perfect rectangle. Yeah, it's just
like it's like a chunk of.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
A wall chunk. Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Shaped more like a crisp picks than exactly than a rectangle.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
And it's no milk gusher, am I right?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
No milk gusher, not giving me any milk gushing. I'll
tell you what. Yeah, there is a story about a
guy who I think it was like a Texas oil
billionaire who bought the window that Lee Harvey Oswald shot
Kennedy through and like put it up in his house,

(51:45):
like just had it installed in his house. Let's show
them what happens to democrats when they come to cases, but.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Let's show them what happens to people that love theater.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Right. But so that's where I got the idea for
the putting the door using the doorframe as a door frame,
you know, and that genius anyways, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Right, Well, congratulations Caitlyn.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Anyway, congratulations to Laurence d t.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Enjoy that door chunk, door chunk.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
I really will thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I have good plans. Thank you so much for joining
us on the Daily zye Geist as always, Caitlin.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Oh my gosh, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Where can people find you and follow you on all
that good stuff?

Speaker 4 (52:28):
You can follow me on mostly on Instagram these days
at Caitlin Deronte and kind of barely there. And my
shows again are on my website. I'm doing stand up
in various European cities. And then there's also the Bechdel
Cast Shrek Tannic Tour. We are doing shows on either

(52:51):
Shrek or Titanic in cities such as London, Oxford, Manchester, Edinburgh, Dublin.
And all of that information is either on the Bechdel
Cast link tree or my website. So check out all
of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Kaitlyndurante dot com slash shows.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
That's right and link tree slash Bechtel Cast bang.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
And is there a work of media or a tweet
that you've been enjoying.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
I just saw the movie Problemista, starring written and directed
by Julio Torres, and I really liked it, so I
would recommend people watch it if they can.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I can't wait to see that.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, I highly recommend.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Is it film theaters if it's at the AMC Glendale,
freaking Americana.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, Goo Google Glendale. Amazing Sophia. Where can people find
you as their work media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (53:56):
People can find me as always at the Sophia Sofya
on Twitter and Instagram. I'm not posting very much either,
but you know I will be. I don't know that
sounded vaguely threatening for no reason, and a work of
media I have been enjoying lately. This is by Matt Margolis.

(54:18):
It's Matt's Law. You'll hear from my lawyer, boring overplayed,
probably tax attorney.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Trish is going to be fucking livid, intimidating. Who is Trish?
What have we done?

Speaker 1 (54:32):
That's right, Trish is gonna hear about this.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Just just wait.

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Let's see mcdad's stuff. Tweeted. Please stop telling me to
lift with my legs. My legs are also not strong
and leak siggles. Keep tweeted. Imagine if you will, a
town where the boys are back. It's just one of

(55:02):
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(55:23):
we think you might enjoy. Uh, super producer Justin Connor,
is there a song that you think people might enjoy?

Speaker 7 (55:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna keep the Parisian vibes going with this
track called Jane, which means I don't drink much. And
this is a very danceably jazzy track that's got a
good cleaning your house type of energy. As Miles likes
to say, I don't know anything about the musicians, but
they created this nice groove and they just stay in

(55:53):
the pocket with some flourishes here and there. But yeah,
this is Jane by leyatupa Duzer.

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And you can find that in the footnote footnotes.

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I know you were fluent in French, just barely.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
This episode is going to get flagged for being French.
We're going to put it in the French language section
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do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to
tell you what is trending and we will talk to
you out then. Bye bye,

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