March 22, 2024 • 61 mins
In episode 1646, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, producer, and co-host of Yo, Is This Racist?, Andrew Ti, to discuss… Trump’s Lawyer Doesn’t Rule Out Taking Foreign Payments For Legal Bills, How To Fix America’s Corpse Problem and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty, episode
five of der Daily's Guys Yaay.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Production of iHeart Radio? Did you just call? Did you
just go? But ah no, that was just my dean screen.
That was yeah, oh there it is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
into America shared consciousness. Come on in the water is worn, yeah,
like feverishly worn, Like the brain is has a fever.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's a lot of fever dreams. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's hard to tell the difference between the fever dreams
and the reality. It is Friday, March twenty second, called
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, sorry, I was just thinking of that line from
The Matrix And he's like, do you ever know like
you can't tell the difference between a dream and reality,
And he goes, yeah, it's called mescal. That's a line
from the Matrix before right before you follow the White
Rabbit to the Techno Club. Anyway, it's March twenty second, Jack,
get up out the collar because it's National West Virginia Day.
(00:58):
It's also National Bavarian Crapes Day, a national goof Off Day.
You're freaking goof off.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Not me, man, I'm never goofing off work, especially in
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh yeah, that's happening right now. To my bracket might
be an absolutely mess. I just like vibrations, I had
no idea who the favorite was, and my bracket shows it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, you can just look at like the number one.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I'm more in on the women's tournament, to be honest,
I know I wish I had gotten a women's bracket.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Then that's the one I'm most into. I feel like
the women's bracket's gonna get real, real exciting like men's bracket.
I just want to see the best team lose every
time for no reason.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm just like, yeah, are you always picking this? Are
you always picking the sixteen over the one? Every single time?
The twelve over the five? One of these years, one
of these years, it's going to be all I always chalk.
I always got to pick a couple of twelves over
the five, you know, to start off, don't have any
sixteen ones quite yet, but hey, you know, yeah there's twelve,
isn't hasn't Has that still happened every single year? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Like non basketball fans, this is just gibberish, But yeah,
shout out to people.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Who are enjoying the tournament.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Shout out to my dad who used to take me
out of school for the tournament. Yeah, just to chill
watch some games, watch some hoops.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It like like a school that your dad worked at
Dayton is in the tournament and the school that my
dad worked out Long Beach Date got them. I got
them with the upset just for the vibes.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah yeah, I would have to pick any anybody I
have like any relation to.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, they're taking it all the way, dating going.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So far because I'm like, I don't know, dude, I
just want Jack to kind of heard of you. Yeah yeah,
they Oh ship, Sorry what happened?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I missed a text from my wife earlier this morning
and then and it was like a timely text, and
so I turned my ringer back on. So that's what
you are hearing. Oh, and you're trying to say, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Going to keep it on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't I don't care. I'm just gonna you're gonna
hear how many texts I get. It's not gonna be many.
My name is JACKO Ryan AKA all these almonds and
all these crows out here. Somebody's getting fucked talking at
squawking at spitting at crows, hoping this plate of nuts
eaten by crows. Fuck this, I'm spitting mad, I'm hitting
at crows. Got one dodging sticks, one calling oh no
(03:16):
at his courtesy at christi Yamagucci Mane on the Discord.
I didn't hit the crows, Christy Almagucci Mane. I just
got disappointed in them. I just looked at them and
showed them my disappointment that they tore my backyard umbrella
to shit just because I missed one day of their feeding. Yeah,
(03:38):
told you, I'm not hitting not hitting crows.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm not like an ancient Mariner in some poem. I'm
not fucking not tempting the fates.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Don't do that. Don't do that anyways.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles Grass aka.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It's my friend Joe. He he got geeze or brain?
It's my friend Joe, he got geeze or brain? Beep beep?
Who got come for the veep that Cleo universe on
the discord. Took me a second to figure out what
(04:17):
exactly the cadence was, but when I figured it out,
it's my phrase. Yeah, anyway, thank you for that, and
thank you to missy Elliott. I couldn't figure that one out,
so great work everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Also shout out to Hannah Sultas on the Discord who
just puts the aks in and doesn't tell us what
song it's for, just like.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Figure out what do you mean it's in there?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Which was sometimes I've noticed panoramic view. We'll just put
it without the without the song.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
All right, Well look look, look you know I'm not
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's like artistry. That's like, yeah, I don't give a funk.
Some are so spot on though, you're like, already know
what this is exactly. Yeah, Like I just I respect it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Every everything so perfect that they don't need to put
it in Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in
our third seat. We're hitting for the cycle with faces
on Mount Zeitemore. Three in a row. A hilarious and
brilliant producer and TV writer you know him from the
Yo is This Racist podcast?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It is Andrew and.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't have a musical AKA because and this will
I'll reveal the onion of this later, but my AKA
is going to be Gotham's spookiest baker. This is the
only thing I've accomplished in the last two weeks. It
honestly could have been all of my items, So.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
All of your overrated, underrated search history, search history.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, piece of Internet content. I'll explain it, Okay, intrigue,
You don't understand intrigue?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Is there a culinary Batman villain? I feel like it
should be, right. I tried everything. If I have my way,
there's about to be one.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
There's about to be there's about to be a new
I guess joker sidekick.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I don't. I don't really know entirely what's happening here.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But delicious begnets.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, yeah, I guess, like Alfred is the only one
who's like flexes any kind of culinary muscle sometimes you see.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But yeah, I think I think it is because it's
so like Batman billionaire centric. They don't like, no one can.
He doesn't care who makes the food, right, he doesn't know.
He's so removed from that process. Yeah, he's never even
seen a kitchen. Yeah no, no, where does the food
come from? That's so interesting. That's such an interesting question.
(06:38):
I never even thought about.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He probably like ezy, he'd probably freak out seeing a
kitchen for the first time. Yeah, Like in that scene
in ace Ventura two when he goes in that room
with all the taxi der meat animals, He's like like,
just like what the tools of labor? No, no, wow,
super producers Victor justin.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Just both time being like condiment King, you're you're missing
condiment king'. That's exactly like what I would expect. I mean,
they have like a calendar bad guy like they they
will do.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Thank you for that, King, Yeah, thanks so much for
pulling that up.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's kind of.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
That's funny though.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
They're just like, I don't know, kids don't give a
fuck about baking. Let's just the only food thing they know,
ketch up and mustard.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's so funny that the people like the comic book
company that brought you Condiment King when they switched to
cinema decided the only creative viewpoint we could have is
what if all this was deadly serious?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Right right? That's right, play it real, play it real.
I would like to see them pull off like a
serious Condiment King sort of bit, because I mean now
that I remember I remember from the animated series, he
was goofy as hell. Didn't you have like just sport
guns with mustard and ship? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Doesn't do you have a like like It's like it's
like he looks like kind of like a mega man villain. Yeah,
if I'm recalling correctly, a catchup squirter and a mustard squirre.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, mustard gas Like, I mean, mustard mustard doesn't always
have the most pleasant connotations.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's true of World War One era. So, oh my god,
I didn't know his origin story. He was later revealed
to be stand up comedian Buddy Sandler.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But the one thing that DC consistently got right is
how many, like of the worst people on Earth are
failed stand up comedian That's truly.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, there's some wisdom here.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's just the unifying theory. The one thing that's consistent
across is like, yeah, the Joker was a failed standard
comic and conomic king. Well he got a failed stand
up comic. Listen, even I failed online comic strip. So
we buried it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Technically you could like, technically he's not a stand up,
but you could tell the Riddler a couple of.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, oh, the Riddler failed out of
u uh UCB, Like, yeah, lowest level. They were just
like this guy's just going for punchlines.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Every you could always retake the class.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The only one who failed out of that. All right,
Andrew T, it's it's truly wonderful to have you here.
We're going to get to know you a little bit
better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our
listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We're going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Trump's lawyer, who so we speculated like that Trump will
secretly take money from foreign governments to get out of
this four and fifty four million dollar hole, and then
that will like buy those governments various things later when
it's present, such as the country. I don't know, but
(09:55):
his lawyer was straight up asked the question on news
and the answer was pretty pretty stagger and killed it
with pop. We'll talk about that. I might even talk
about America's corpse problem all of that plenty more. But first,
Andrew TI, we do like to ask our guest, what
is something from your search history?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
You knew it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This is the one that was going to kick off
the whole thing. My search history, the most recent, not
most recent, the most revealing thing I searched recently was
is there such a thing as savory fondant? And that
is because and I'm just going to do this whole
story because I, again, as I said earlier, could not
be more proud of myself.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The quickest version of this is my friend, writer and
showrunner Zie Chun used to be a writer on the
television show Gotham, and I am just out of friendship
embargo because he posted all this recent yesterday on social media,
so I feel like I can tell the story. Yeah, nice,
he and this has all been on the internet.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So he basically tweeted about a failed pitch he had
at Gotham, wherein the most psychologically devastating thing that could
happen is Bruce Wayne gets baked a cake, but when
he cuts into the cake, it's a lasagna inside. So mildly,
(11:22):
I'll say, this motherfucker would fuck you way up like that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't care who you are. That would be a
real problem.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
This motherfucker has been talking about this for seven years.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I think we worked out. Literally, he brings it up
all the time. And this is this is a side note.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I realized every TV writer has a pitch that they
are so bitter that they got that got rejected, that
they will never let go. Yeah, I remembered mine. It's
about it was at Robot Chicken. It was a bit
that almost made it through the process that onto TV
but then got killed about a predator that had asthma.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Anyway, that's actually the whole joke.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So like invisible but you just hear him everywhere? Does
the wheezing have like the little like digital whistles and
stuff mixed in with this?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I was prepared to let the director work all that out.
Is that for me, my pitch is basically from the
predator's perspective. The events of every Predator movie are just
like a sort of deliferent style worst hunting trip you've
ever been on. And anyway, see it's cold, but so
(12:38):
Zi has been pitching or been talking about lasagna with
inside a birthday cake. But when you cut into lasagna
and so last week for his birthday, me and our
friend Portsac Pichette showt made him.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The Loasanya cake. And that's why I had to google
is there such thing as safe refonded and there is not?
Fond of primary ingredient is sugar Just to get it
to even be like that sort of sticky, hard surface.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, sugar, Yeah, I wonder something. I mean, I guess
the thing that would have the closest consistency is lasagna.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Everyone is everyone when I tell them this does exactly
what you just did, which is it starts the it
starts the brainstorm going.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Right, Yeah, what's the what's the replacement ingredient? Because I really,
I really listen.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
We went down there like, okay, if you mix like
ricotta with cream cheese at the right proportions, and just
like all kinds of options there was there was a
hearty debate about palmda puree with like gelatine.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh wow, you guys are We were really trying to
make this happen, mostly because.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I was like, I'll do the prank, but I'm not
gonna waste food. Yeah, because because that's so fucked up.
So ultimately, what we did so the barrier where we
hit upon those like any version of something savory was
going to give away the surprise via smell. So we
made a lasagna in a back of lazagia and then
(14:11):
froze them, took them out of the freezer, and then
for the sake of the prank because this is the
real world. We wrapped them in foil, covered the foil
in regular fondent, and then iced and decorated that Wow,
and it was it worked. We actually like fooled into it,
(14:32):
and I have a video he cuts into it. He
was like, oh, it's an ice cream cake. And you
could hear me just too fast going yep and ice
cream cake.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yep, ice cream cake.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's right, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
All for you.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But I also I had to I got a knife
sharpener and like got my like my knife sharp to
the sharpest it could possibly be, so it's it could
with minimum effort.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Anyway, I know that's the long version of how this
question usually goes, but I cannot stress this is the like,
this is the most flawlessly any project I've ever been
involved with full stop has ever gone like we We
gave out every possibility. I like, I had like a
(15:19):
hero angle and like some candle positions to make sure
some of the blasagna lumps didn't show through.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'm so proud of this. It's on.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's on my Twitter, It's probably off my Instagram stories
by the time this comes out, but it's on. It's
on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's amazing. Writers are so weird.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I love it great, but like, just for reference, like
this bit is older than his child and he's still
and I'm not clear who he loves more.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Shit, that's so great.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
What is something you think is underrated movies?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You can understand I watched a bunch of the Oscar
movies or not understand.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
But like I think I am, I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Have moved to the point where like any debate, like
I hate, I just don't think film debate is good
anytime anything is ambiguous. I mean the let's just say
that the two sides of this coin to me are
of your very clear done two and zone of interest. Really,
(16:24):
like every type of discussion about this, I'm just like,
oh my gosh, just fucking make it. Your filmmakers put
it on the screen. I know you think, I know
you think that, like your audience is better than this
or it should be better than this, but the reality
is they're not.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, so vaguely show, don't tell. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
We've moved into a new era where people are too
stupid to like be trusted with film debate.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That's my yeah, that's my take to just like have
a scroll at the end.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, it was like, here's what we'd like you to
take away from this.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think I think.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Every movie now should be required to do like a
eighties movie montage type thing where you just see like
a two second like still or not still, like a
like a little like frame of each like a close
up of each character, and just underneath it should say
director thinks this is a good guy, director thinks this.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Was the good guy.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
He wanted you to root for this person. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I think I just think that is what Evidently the
Internet has revealed to me that that is what we
as a society require, right, and I think we should.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We should inact that, I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Like much lower stakes. But I still remember like the
end of Inception and people just arguing endlessly like no,
it definitely is a dream, like he meant it for
it to be a dream, and it's like, wait, what
did you think he was doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
With that last Did you think you didn't show whether
it fell or not? No?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, like you can kind of tell that it wobbled,
So it's definitely he's not in a dream.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Dude. It's so weird, you know what it is? I
think it's it's the advent.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Of four K like things that you can pause flawlessly,
that let people analyze pixels right this way.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's just like yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, like even the amount I've worked in just normalizsed television,
I could just tell you no one even like you know,
the freaks who write shows like Gotham has thinking like
that subtly right right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So the Lasagna ca by the way, I do like
that you came up with the exact opposite of is
it cake? Yes, yeah, the reverse of that.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
This is the reverse of is it cake.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I am fully prepared to pitch a show just about
like it's like the Bear, but it takes place in Gotham,
and it's just all the unreasonable, fucked up requests that
these people work for the Joker.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, just like below the line employees for the Jokers,
like back at back of House for but like back
of House at both Wayne Manor and then in the
Jokers like organization and like the the day is won
by like them being able to like pull various things
together or not.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
They all hang out. I think they all go to
the same about their bosses like everybody does.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Like bro I turnover. It's like between you know, fucking
IBM and Apple and Microsoft like it's yeah, they're they're
just all cycling back and forth. They're like, actually, this
guy was a real riser over in the Jokers, like
Henchman infrastructure, actually bring them in. Yeah, I'd actually be
pretty good here. He's like, yeah, he actually QC seventy
(19:57):
baby dolls that emitted nerve gas out of the bus.
But the Jokers ship, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Actually like kind of artistically done. Yeah, it was crazy,
one of the flawed ones that could have could have
ended everyone's life in the factory if it was for
his you know, sharp Ey.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It's just there's so much manufacturing that that's the that's
the real story of the real untold story of anything
that a Gotham city is this This ship takes a
lot of work, the just the engineering that goes into that,
you know, the manufacturing that goes into any dumb ship
the Joker does. Come on, yeah, come on, those are
(20:34):
the real heroes. These guys too hopped up on drugs
to figure this ship out himself.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
So is the dune to debate that, Like, people are like, no,
Paul was good guy, and that's fucked up that he's
pro like American imperialism is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That of the debate.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I just saw Dune too. I had been avoiding it,
but I did know there was a controversy.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I think it's it's like I would say American, but
the worlds like protagonist problem. Like yeah, like, oh, I
saw a YouTube that made my fucking headspin where I
guess like listen, I know I'm old and like English
is an evolving language, like I understand that pov now
(21:17):
means the opposite of pov as does literally like.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Me.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
However, I did see and part of it was because
this guy was otherwise I don't even remember the YouTube,
but otherwise so like pretentious and like prescriptive about like film,
but insisted on calling villains the antagonist sort of like
without understanding that something can be an antagonist to a
(21:43):
protagonist but not a villain specifically in like I think
it was an analysis of done one or two, but
it was this thing where I was like, oh, they
think they basically it's just a sort of codified like
protagonist is a quote unquote good guy, right, and like
they don't understand and like that's not correct, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That was good guy, that's me. Yeah, which is why why.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'll even give directors a third option. They could just
say mid underneath the character and it doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But that's how you decide Yeah, not supposed to know, Yeah, Mark,
but no, but it's yeah, fu fuck movies that you
can't understand.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I'm I'm all, I'm pure Madam Web. Ye give me.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Dump that exposition about say, your mother being in the
Brazilian wilderness right before?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Did I talk about this on this show? I guess
I must not have. Do you guys know that In
the actual theatrical cut of Madam Web, I assume it's
even better. It's cut in a way that is comedically amazing. Really,
it cuts away from the end, so it is like
it is just like sort of like camp. There's sort
(23:10):
of like a rocky horror picture version of Edging where
they like.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And it's just like it does it. They don't complete
the line, they like cut away, and I'm like, ah,
the whole theater was just freaked down. It was amazing
what we came for. Literally, Yeah, Madam Webb.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Is currently my most enjoyable cinematic experience of twenty twenty four.
I believe, although Lovelight, Love Lies Bleeding was pretty.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Good was Love Lives Bleeding good? That I just watched
Saint Maud that film, yeah movie, and that was really.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yet Love Life's Bleeding.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Is good in a way that yeah, I loved how
just disgusting it was. I'm like, yeah, fucking everything looks
like it's there's a new there's a new filmmaker in
my pantheon of And I'm taking this from someone on Twitter,
but I can't remember who, but who said Dave Eggers and
Yorgo Slanthemos are the top top two of the you know,
(24:07):
it's smelled crazy in their cinematic universe that I think
the director, Oh sorry, let's be rose Glass. Rose Glass
from a new a new entry into you know, you know,
it's crazy, a Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's it just that movie looks like a fucking stinks
Yeah not in yeah that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
That's also one of the only movies that I've ever
when I saw the preview, turned to the person I
was with and was like, that's a great fucking title.
Like I was just like, God, damn man, they like
kind of nailed the poetry of that one. They really Yeah,
all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
back and talk about something you think is over eighty
We'll be right.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Back and we're back.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
We're back, and we do like to also ask our
guest Andrew, as you very what is something you think
is overrated?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I'm realizing as I say this one I'd written it down.
I a thousand percent sure I have done this already,
but it remains true fucking taking care of yourself. I
feel like I've been like like doing like just old
man mobility, stretches in the morning, drinking drinking water a
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lot more and the returns are marginal.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I'm not saying it bad, but the returns are.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And listen, there's true man with your animal effort, you
mean return so much.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It takes. It's a lot more like that I want
to do.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
We'll say, I'm just like, oh my god, I'm going
to follow a fucking Instagram reel of how to stretch
when you're old, right, and I like do it.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And I but here's the thing. I'm not saying it's bad.
I'm saying it's overrated. That's right, it's it's there. Are
there are some returns, but not are you still boxing? No? No?
I mean where the returns better? Boxing? Did you feel better?
From when you're training boxing. Ooh, wonderful question.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I mean, technically speaking, no, and I will say I
will say it's it's clear. It's clear that these are
part and parcel of things that happened whilst boxing are
affecting my need for mobility stretching. But no, I mean
I felt destroyed after boxing, but like not boxing and
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stretching and drinking water, I only feel a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Interesting, as I've gotten older, like a lot of the
things that are supposed to invigorate me, like doing the
plunge or drinking enough water or like working out in
the morning now instead just make me tired. Like I've
like started to be like I don't think Donald Trump
is like right about many things, but his thing about
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like how exercise like wastes the energy and you only
have a certain number of heart beats in your life, right, Like, Yeah,
I see where, I see how he got there, because
exercise is exhausting.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
My body is old as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, long term though,
I'm sure you'll you'll you'll appreciate it. Long term though,
because even the mobility stuff, you're not gonna turn stiff. Andrew,
you're shaking your head. No, vigorously. Here's why you don't
think there's any long term benef Every older person in
my in my life has told me, man, at the
very least, fucking stretch because it will become.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I agree with you, but I here's what I What
I mean, though, is when you don't do it, you
like have some like you know, you have some level
of regret because you see you kind of like imagine
and remember when you were more limber and you feel
yourself being old and stiff now.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But if you do stretch, you.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Still wind up pretty stiff, and all you do, you're
like you're like a little more limber. Of course, again,
I'm not saying it's useless. I'm just saying the the
ROI is not what I'd hoped.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Sure, you feel a little better, but I don't think
you feel enough better to justify it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I also think the answer is just like everybody's body
is so different, you know, like, yeah, the cold plunch
thing really seems to work for some people, and for
me it's like somebody just like fucking shook the ship out.
You kind of are you going to a place to plunge,
do you?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, no, no, no, we just have a pool that
is cold.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Okay, but you're not doing the ship where you're putting
like ice in like a little buck.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I'm not cry like that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, crying, oh fucking myself.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, but it's still just like I feel tired, and
I'm like, yeah, because it just like flooded me with
all this fucking I don't know whatever the blood chemicals
are that when.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Your body's like fuck, fuck, fuck, what the what the
fuck is that?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know, like stop it stop, and then my body's like, yeah,
well that sucked all.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Right, Yeah, good luck having guide. I need to recover
for forty eight hours. Yeah, exactly, I think. But yet
I think it's also revealing that maybe Andrew, you're one
of the like the rare people who doesn't have to
do much to still feel okay all the time. Who
because I am also kind of in that world too,
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where I'm like, Noah, Brian, do a ship. I'm like,
evolutionarily speaking, they're like you had to. I was like,
is laziness an actual positive trait evolutionarily speaking? Yeah, probably?
But I'm a little both, Yeah, because I have friends
who need it and they're like, no, I'm fucked up
like I have. Yeah, and I look at them. I'm like,
you have to do something. I do feel like I
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don't want to. I don't want the listeners and you
miles to misunderstand me. I do feel like shit. I'm
just saying. All I'm saying is the amount that I
feel like shit isn't changing time. I'm here to say
I'm one of the physically exalted few.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You can just dump garbage in your body not do
anything down.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I mean, I don't know what blood work says, but
I don't do blood. Blood work lies.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, that's right, blood work, lies bleeding.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
The follow up full circle.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
All right, speaking of Trump, let's talk about this is
just a quick interview, but I think it's worth noting
because we've mentioned before the possibility that like Trump could
take for money to help pay his mounting legal debts,
which he and his lawyers keep being like, that's impossible,
we will not be able to pay this, and it's
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but you're supposed to be billionaire man. You're supposed to
have all these buildings that you can just sell.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Testified earlier that you had four hundred million dollars cash.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, just like around in a bathtub.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I think, yes, my wallet's in the other room though,
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna pay it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I was gonna pay it. I was in pay it today.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I was, presumably because they thought she'd have a better
answer than this. FOXO has actually questioned his lawyer about this,
like straight up, just were like, so, are you planning
on paying the four hundred and fifty four million dollars
using money from countries like Russia or Saudi Arabia, like
you know, like the woke lib media is saying.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And the response was surprising. Yeah, and I guess shouldn't
because Alena Habba. Yeah, her entire course of representing Donald
Trump has just been like a fucking Hall of fame
of like wacky legal takes and sometimes you're like, does
this person actually know the law or are they just
there to be like a hot take merchant. But anyway,
here's the question and answer a segment.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
There is there any effort on the part of your
team to secure this money through another country Saudi Arabia
or Russia? As Joy Behar seems to think, well, there's.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Rules and regulations that are public. I can't speak about
strategy that require certain things, and we have to follow
those rules, like I said, this is manifest injustice. It
is impossible. It's an impossibility. I believe they knew that.
I think that's why mid trial, frankly, they changed their
ask from two hundred and fifty million to the ridiculous
amount of money that they've asked for. I think everything
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is done in.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I mean, I think it's also important that number they
came up with that's based on the amount of fraud
from organization, but that they're like, you know what, fuck them.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Another case about how you're always saying you have more
money than you do and how you're always saying you
have this amount of money, but just the answer some
wasn't no is kind of the big take.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I can't speak about strategy, yo, I'm sorry, because like
if you think about like you cannot get a security
clearance if you got a ton of debt, that's just
a that's just a general thing when it comes.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
To like as seems to think like that's like that
you can't actually knock that one out of the park.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Unfortunately, Like a I could answer that.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's like, hey, Chatt, you're a guest on Fox News
and you have just been told something that Joy Behar said,
what is your answer like the the response under the
opposite of a Joy bahar Andrew.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I can't speak about strategy that requires certain things. I
think we're done here that requires certain things. That's true,
very very succinct and specific. I can't speak about strategy
that requires certain things and we're in here. Yeah man,
that's like that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I mean, yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I genuinely think that those countries would sort of say
this is too like we could buy Trump for much less.
I think what's going on is an actual negotiation that like,
I think the problem is like they're like, we can
get you for what you get you for eighty miil
dog like this isn't this isn't a shade and markup.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
So I think they're trying to rally together like a
like a coalition, you know, like trying to buy the
nets or whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Get a couple consortium of owners. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, if like if like you know, twenty countries each
kick in eighty like that we're talking you know, forty
forty million.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Now we got I know that. The hard bit there
is just being like once he gets it, he's not
even like bro oh y'all shit. Yeah, I see him
easily being like yeah, I just skated on that. Sorry, Peace, It's.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It does feel like and this probably can't be true,
just given the way the world is, but it does
almost feel like his bullshit, like he's run out of
runway on his you know, just yeah fucking train track
that he was building, like as he was driving the
train of just like lies and bullshit and intimidation and
(35:17):
like just this this feels like the place where it's
like his just unshakable like inability not to want to
have as much money as possible and want to seem
like he has as much money as possible is like
kind of getting in the way of him being able
to function in the way that.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
He has up to up to this point.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well, and then there's also just too like the people
that were giving him money, I think they're just they're
also i think literally running out of money too. Yeah,
like the small dollar donors, like the people that are
sub two hundred dollars donations, and they like, he had
almost sixty three percent less money from small dollar donors
than he did in twenty nineteen, and it's just been
trending down.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Me let me throw this out there. This is this
is for all you maga heads out there. This is
this is what Joe Biden's been trying to do with
all this inflation. You know, he's trying to keep you
from being able to send money to thank you President Trump.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, I mean we'll see Willis Sheldon Adelson or someone
come from the shadows and be like, all right, bro,
here's the money. But it's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
But that's like behavior at this point because it's like
all you're doing is protecting the money you already threw
at him. Yeah he's not you're not giving him, You're
not getting anything from him. Yeah, not even enabling though too.
It's just like like it's it's ro o I listen.
I clearly all I've been taking is ro O I
up and down. That's my last show. But what is
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the value of giving him this money?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Like you're not going to get it worth billion dollars
back in some other ship or if maybe you do
and the maybe you've done some calculus and you're like,
well it's worth it for certain arm shipments depending on
what government is looking at this. But yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
We first heard that, like the Chubb guy was going
to bail him out, I was like, I mean it
kind of makes sense because he thinks he might be president,
but how like what possible way is he getting that
money back? And then it was like, oh no, that
shit fell through.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He's not going to be getting but.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Like what could what in what form could you possibly
get a four hundred and fifty four million dollar return
on your investment?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I think, honestly, the only way to be like I
don't know if I own all his properties right, own
all his properties?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And the president while he's in the president like well.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, but it's like like what like what you're gonna
like defeat America in a nuclear war? Like what like
what do you get out of this that allows you
to continue to be a wealthy person in a functioning world?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Like this is like starting to be existential in that
like listen, the reality is like even the fucking.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Like worst people on earth don't really want you know,
they're not going to be there. Even their wealth is
not going to be as fun if you know, things
really go to shit. And like, so what do you
get for half a billion dollars from Trump?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Like? Right, what could he offer you? Really? Yeah? I
mean that's why you have to be so wealthy that
a half billion is like out, bro, it's gotta be Putin,
Like it really does have to be Putin or Saudi
Arabia at this point. Like that's why this quest line
of questioning makes sense and should not have been like
flippantly raised by Fox News. Like Putin is what is
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probably the richest person in the history of the world.
He just like hides his money and like cello players
that he grew up with, but he could probably swing it.
But like that feels like it's gotta be illegal and.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Well yeah, but but even if he, yeah, what like
he would have to do it out of like personal
like friendship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't think that exists, Like there's no like or
just like such a severe switch in foreign policy that
like you can make it easier to fully just antagonize
like the rest of Western year up and then be like, oh, yeah,
do your thing, bro, We're not gonna do ship like
go get their ass. I don't know, but even then
that seems so far off.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I just don't think if you want that, there's better
ways to spend half a billion dollars, Yeah, for sure,
for sure, Like.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I think also when you look at like the
rumors around him are like people keep telling him he
might be able to win on appeal to the Supreme Court,
and you're like, he's like, yo, you're really You've got
your head in the fucking clouds right now. I mean,
I know they're down to bail you out, but like
I don't to like paying on that or being like,
well watch this. If they do see my assets, my base,
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They're gonna really come to life when they see them
take all my things away from me, and that's what
they love. That's maybe, but yeah, it's really hard to say.
But you break up, you bring up the superport.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
If I'm Vladimir Putin, you can buy the Supreme Court
for three million dollars, why would you buy the executive
temporarily for half a billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah? Right, sure, Like it's it's just like not worth it.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, that's yeah. And I maybe might be chief executive,
you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
For a chance.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
So yeah, your expected value on that is like, I
don't know, forty eight percent, right, So you need to
you need to get a full billion dollars worth out.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Of this, right, Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, As your financial advisor, Vladimir Putin, we're gonna say
just like keep your powder drive for a little bit
till he gets real desperate.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Hate giving you good financial advice here sound financial advice. Yeah,
I'm telling you better ways to spread that money out. Man.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You could buy the other two branches of government for
one hundred max. Oh yeah, easy, easy, Yeah, I think sixty.
Maybe you know it doesn't bad, it's bad, it's bad value.
Don't do it flat or do it?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break and then
we're gonna come back with some financial advice for other
international monsters.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
And we're back, and America has a bit off a
uh corpse problem. We're running out of cemetery space. There's
there's like wait lists and ship like it like a
trendy restaurant.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
My god.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, it's everywhere. It's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I think it's also funny like if people in our
minds were like, yeah, cemetery, like that's where your bodies go,
without thinking that that's a finite piece of land. That's
just like a little park. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
They usually don't have empty spots, tons of empty spots.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, because the solutions are not great, Like it's like
you can be buried in a communal grave, or there
might be someone buried upon top of you. Yeah, if
you as a way to make space or reapes, this
is the this is the fifteen minute city of death.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah. Do you want to know what to do with
all those hotels that people aren't staying in anymore?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yes? Oh boy?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
But yeah, I guess this is especially a problem in
the US, where people seem to believe that cemeteries never
run out of space. That seems to just be a
frame of mind us in general. That is not true,
which is why some bodies have to get buried on
top of existing graves. Like Miles said, some countries only
rent out graves, meaning that the term expires, the bodies
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duck up and added to a communal grave, kind of
like a timeshare for skeletons.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You got to be like, oh, oh, Gray, you know
my burial plot. It ain't a rental Oh right, yeah, eternity, eternity, okay,
exactly exactly, I see you forever, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
The other problem is that cemeteries are actually terrible for
the environment. We pump bodies full of like toxic chemicals
for their big day in the like open casket funeral
and then just like shove them into an in a
concrete in cased wooden box that gets buried in the earth.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't I have no idea what.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Could be wrong with that, but apparently the embalming chemicals
have been known to leech into groundwater.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, and that's why I was like, oh, why can't
they do it? Like it's like in Japan and like
asy it's cremation, like yeah, because like in Tokyo, there's
no room. If you go to like a graveyard in
Tokyo or like a cemetery, it's just a bunch of
stone pillars like crammed together because everything everyone is cremated.
But even then, I guess that also has issues too.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, yeah, there's a cremation also problematic for the environment.
It produces millions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year.
Many facilities lack modern filtration systems, so you're probably breathing
in a bunch of corpse right now. Corpse does I'm
fine with that, which I'm good with, Like, that's actually
what illow to happen to my body is, yeah, to
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get inhaled and then coughed out by some future you know, asthmatic.
But I guess cremation has gone from twenty six or sorry,
twenty one percent of like you know, bodies in the
US in nineteen ninety six to now fifty six percent, which, yeah,
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I guess people are just becoming less.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
On the balance. That has to be the it has
to be the better option, right, I'm skimming the research here.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
But yeah, well I think there's there's a lot of
different angles because I can see how there is. You'll
also see studies like from people that are for traditional
burial to be like cremation is actually really bad for
the environment. Well, like this other thing is really bad
for the environment because there are a lot of stakeholders
when you think about like especially the traditional set like
this cemetery industrial complex, like yeah, forest lawns, et cetera.
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They definitely because you know, anybody who's driven on the
one thirty four past Griffith Park, like over the years,
you've seen like this one part that was like a
hillside slowly be like, no, man, we got to fucking
put graves there too. Yeah, clips that ship up like
to the fence line. And I grew up, like growing
up in La like that always used to be like
this one part you really couldn't see much of, like
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the cemetery, but now it's fully like to the like
the property borders. Yes, you know, it takes up.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Space, which is what you want your eternal rest in
place to have a good view of the highway.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah. Yeah, the lawless one thirty four that the home
of the highest rates of speeding.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
This has to be like rooted in religion somehow, like
the idea that a body specifically is so precious and important.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yes, so it was I think the right like cremation,
I think is against the rules for like Catholicism at least.
Oh so, yeah, so they speculate that the reason that
creams going up is because people are getting less serious
about like following every letter of the law.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Right, there's a cool pope. Now he'll let you bring
it to Chris that there is wild rules. I actually
did not know. I don't know jack shit about any
type of Christianity, it turns out. But yeah, wow, now,
I just I remember yet in school, like going to
like Lutheran and Catholic school, talking like I remember when
my grandfather died during like the same time the north
Ridge earthquake. I missed school and I came back and
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then I explained what a Japanese like funeral was. I'm again,
and then they cremate you and they're like, oh, yeah,
we don't. It's just a gas.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Audible gas goes up throughout the entire school.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh yeah, like that ship. You saw me do the
lebron with the talcum powder earlier. That was my grandfather.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
So the good news is more and more Americans are
considering green burials, where you skip the embalming fluid, where
biodegradable outfits or wear nothing at all, like just being
like loose, throw my dead body in the ground, loose,
bury me loose. Whose line is that?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's from Twitter? Now, I think it's just we should
credit that.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I think it was one of our former guests. Yeah really,
Oh yeah I think so, Travis. Yeah it was your doing.
That's how I thought it was you.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But he said, damn, a
coffee costs four thousand dollars, y'all can bury me loose?
Two years ago? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
But anyways, so there's that you get. They could just
throw your naked ass in the ground loose. They can
also there's a new thing, new cremation process called aquamation
or alkaline hydro license, which immerses bodies in a mixture
of water and strong alkali and liquefies everything but the bones.
(48:00):
Which so they basically like due to your body what
Heathcliff the cat does to a fish, or like they
put the fish in and then just pulls the skeleton clean, skele, Yeah,
this is what I want. But then they then they
dry your bones in an oven and reduce that to
white dust, which fine, but it feels like you're wasting
my skeleton. Like I just got it. I just gave
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you a clean skeleton, and you're not going to scare
some kids with my stock.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I will say, this alkalization is it?
Speaker 3 (48:31):
I'm pretty sure that's the ship they do to that
one guy at Breaking Bad, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, exactly. But I think that one actually dissolves the bones,
whereas this one just is like the process for getting
some bones, forgetting some clean, nice shiny bones. There's something
about this that really.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Excites just about your own skeleton, like you you're yeah,
a jack skelling, that's right.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I think ever since I heard that, I've just been
like my bones just desired.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
To be free.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
That we get out to jumped out of my body flesh.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I'm I'm all for this for the the green movement.
Of course, there is going to be some dumb bullshit.
For instance, people are like water cremation, that must mean
that they recycle your bodies into drinking water and that
we're all drinking corpse juice. Yeah, it does not, but
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you know, the existing cemetery human remains disposal industry is
obviously not gonna also something like.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
That to those people.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
I got real bad dues about standing bodies of water.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, it's all in there. Yeah. I also like, yeah,
the other pushback from the Catholic Church they called the
process unnecessarily disrespectful of the human body and if pressure
makers not to prove it, And I'm like, oh, yes,
the Catholic Church the true arbiters of what is and
isn't disrespectful. It's the human body. Yeah. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Concentrate on some of the stuff you're doing as sub
living bodies first.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Then I just think it's it's desecration, you know, That's
that's what it is. It's like we but again, we
don't have unlimited cemetery space, so some's gotta give. I mean, yeah, culturally,
I see myself going the way of the dust packet.
But yeah, then but then we can free up so
much land, that's right, you know, Yeah, yeah, I mean
(50:37):
that's it.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
So Germany is obviously a little bit ahead of us
on the macabre and death related things, and so they've
like already been converting cemeteries to just like parks, which.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I don't know. I grew up in.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I lived a lot of places, and the ones that
I like spent a lot of time like riding bikes around.
I remember like cemeteries being just some of the most
beautiful places, like in these towns or just these like
huge lush parks that are just full of dead bodies.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Lives near sort of a cemetery in Atlanta, And last
time I was there, we took a little walk and
there was a moment where I was like, what's one
of these motherfuckers are slaves?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Oh? All of them? Oh they're on that mausoleum over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
But yeah, the part I used to walk through it
as long as you don't think about anything.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I guess that's the part is I've never been able
to go into like a cemetery and be like, oh, yes,
you know what I mean. Oh really, I don't know,
Like I just every time I'm in there, I'm like,
damn shit, this is this is where everybody dead. Everybody dead
in here. Yeah, that's everywhere. Bro, I know, that's just
I think my own sort of like juvenile perception of
like a cemetery. But like zooming out, it is true,
(51:58):
Like the grass is always green, they great trees, there's
a lot of shade, and yeah, I guess I just
have to throw cemeteries up there with like golf courses.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, like golf courses first.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, yeah, let's courses golf courses first, and then we'll
get to you later cemeteries. But yeah, also, like, but
what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
I'm saying there's a little convergence right here at.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Golf bury them, bury the golfers where they stand. Yeah
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
But then what do you do? Like, do you to you?
Does it matter that there is like a place where
the quote unquote body is at rest that you can visit.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
I think there's probably like I think it's fine to
like bury people loose or like in the biodegradable clothing,
and then you can go visit, and there's probably should
be like some regulation around that.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I don't. I think that's fine.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I think it's important like sometimes to like have a
ritual or a ceremony of some sort with around death.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
I would definitely want to make room for everybody to
have their specific rituals because it's it's a tough thing
to get your mind around, for sure.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah, But I like just.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Entangling them from real estate is. I think it's so
important the fact that it has to be done like
a real estate deal. The second yeah, as you're dealing
with that ship is I don't want to like overly
follow the money here, but I think for the Catholic Church,
I kind of imagine cemeteries are a relatively large profit
(53:30):
center for the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, it requires employing a priest usually or
hiring a priest, but just like like if it's on
church grounds, I assume you got to pay some sort
of maintenance, like it's eternal rent, right, yeah, because I
just think, yeah, like because in Japan, like we have
a thing called buzadam, which is like an altar that
you kind of keep in your house that is meant
to sort of be like your little shrine for family
(53:54):
members that have passed away, and that's how you pay
your respect. I mean you can obviously rave yard or something. Yeah,
you can visit that, but it'll be like a picture
of them, and then you'll put some like their favorite
stuff in there, Like my grandfather like scotch, So you
put a bottle of scotch in there, like cigarettes that
he liked or whatever, and then you light incense and
that's kind of like how you kind of be like, yeah,
there he.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Is, alright, cool, I don't have to go to But
to me, it's so weird that like the people that
believe most in the idea of like a spirit or
an angel or whatever think that spirits can't go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I'm just like, yeah, just fucking have a representation or whatever.
Like their spirits they can fly, don't worry. Yeah, they've left,
actually left our physical plane, and that means it's everywhere. Point.
The whole basis of most of the shit is like
they're anywhere. Yeah, the Bible is not like and when
you pass away, you in that fucking box six feet under.
(54:50):
Don't even try to get out that. It's like hanging
on to the one thing that the rest of their
religious like this is the least important part.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, but we do need the most passive income possible,
so we're gonna need you to just pay us rent
while you're dead. If that's cool. Thanks, that's cool with you. Well,
andrew T, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Geist.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
I mean, I don't know, just andrew T.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
I guess, yeah, find find me on Twitter to look
at this fucking ridiculous thing. And my podcast is always
this racist We're doing stuff always. Yeah, one of the greats.
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3 (55:36):
Oh my god, Okay, I'm looking for it now. I'm
scrolling back through my likes. There was a Reddit post
about a guy whose marriage fell apart because he asked
his wife of ten years for a paternity test for
their kid. Wow, and oh shit, I'm not gonna be
able to find it, but it is. It is just
you know, like red pill come up and in general,
(55:58):
just like yeah, this like this, like I was not aware.
I'm you know, I'm aging out of being on the
internet every single second. But yeah, I guess this is
like like a new like Manisphere, red Pill, Joe Roguiny
adjacent or possibly within Joe Rogan. I don't know, like
type of viewpoint is like always get a paternity test, always, dude,
(56:22):
because women women always cheat and like it's so the
post is so funny. Okay, I did find it. I'll
send a link to just like thees. Yeah, just like
a Twitter thing.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I don't know. This might require more actual research.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
But it is just a dude who is like genuinely
like does not understand why his marriage is falling apart
because he called he but you know, essentially accused his
wife of however many years of cheating on him having
a kid with no evidence. It's it's like, it's just
the vibes. I guess, yeah, it's exactly what what he deserves.
(56:57):
But yeah, man, it's fucking blockers amazing.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I always listen to go to you know, I don't
listen to Rogan for his political takes, Okay, guys, but
when it comes to my relationship, that's where I gotta
go to find out that's my wife?
Speaker 2 (57:14):
Man, who's his wife? Does he? Like? It's so misterious? Yeah, that,
Like I imagine like he just like when he's done recording,
he just punches a fucking punching bag, smokes his cigar,
and then cries in the dark or some shit.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Well yeah yeah, I mean he does go into a
flotation tank. So right, it's like kind of woke and
trippy cool. Uh. I can't wait to read that. Miles,
Where can people find you as their working media you've
been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Oh Man, find me on the Twitter, the Instagram at
Miles of Gray, Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast.
I was in Jack on mad Boosti's you can find
me on four to twenty Day Fiance tweet. I like,
this just just reminds me of what Andrew just brought
up in his Overrated Underrated. It's from Brooks oader Lake
at I underscores Eazys, he tweeted. The zone of interest
was confusing to me. People walk out a frame and
(58:01):
it's like, Okay, first of all, where did they go? Secondly,
and I guess this is sort of a related question.
Where are they? Are they somewhere? And I guess this
is a related question. Listen, I all satire, like this
is where we're at. We're we're back to we should
(58:24):
have just a little caption when the when the train
or car comes towards the screen, it's say, don't worry,
you won't be hit by a car? Right?
Speaker 1 (58:31):
Why not not real train?
Speaker 3 (58:33):
We are completely media illiterate, and that should be the
baseline assumption for anyone making anything.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
The tweet I've been enjoying Dan White at Dan White,
who's just a very consistent Twitter presence. Yeah, sharing a
conversation that he's having with a friend about watching March Madness.
He texts his friend, March Madness, baby, can't wait to
watch later, bringing chips. Also, can I use your bathroom?
Is a green room for mister basketball? And then a
(59:03):
picture of a guy in a full body basketball suit
and his friend just writes, please don't wear this suit.
He replies, it's cool. I really don't mind. That's literally
why I bought it. I just need a quote green
room to cool off and eat cliff bars between games
it gets so fucking hot in the suit. Also, need
a place to empty my piss shit bag every fifteen
(59:25):
to seventeen minutes. He goes, No, he says, I promise
I won't spill. Actually, I can't promise that, but I'll
do my best. The backstory this year is that mister
Basketball is a gambling addict who lost eighty thousand dollars
on a Draft Kings and now has to win his
March Madness pool before his wife, Missus Fernandez Basketball, finds out.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
And he has ed shit. I was literally laughing. It's compelling.
It's compelling.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
He's a compelling backstory.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
Shout out to Dan, I'm white.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
You can find me on Twitter liking stuff like that
at Jack Underscore, O Brian, you can find us on
Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily
zeitgeist dot com, where we post our episodes and our
footnote no where we link off to the information that
we talked about today's episode, as well as a song
that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Miles, what's the song you say people might enjoy. There's
a band called Royal Otis and I'm like, just based
on the vibe, I'm like, I'm fairly confident they're from
Australia because there's so many great bands coming out of
Australia right now and This track is called Foam and
it's kind of like a It's like if Kevin Parker
(01:00:43):
from Tam and Paula was like kind of fucking with
more like world rhythms. It's kind of got like that
early Vampire Weekend kind of vibe to it, where it's
like sort of got that sort of like West African
ish adjacent, you know what I mean. Doesn't feel like
straightforward rock, but it's still a dope track. It's called
Bom and it's by Roy l Otis. It's spelled r
O y E l O t I s okay. Well.
(01:01:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
For more podcasts from our heart Radio, visit the iHeart
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Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
That's gonna do it for us.
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
This morning.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
We are back on Monday with a.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Whole new episode, tell you what is trending, back over
the weekend with a rundown, a digest of all the
stuff we talked about this week, and we will talk
to you all then.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Bye bye,
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty, episode
five of der Daily's Guys Yaay.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Production of iHeart Radio? Did you just call? Did you
just go? But ah no, that was just my dean screen.
That was yeah, oh there it is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
into America shared consciousness. Come on in the water is worn, yeah,
like feverishly worn, Like the brain is has a fever.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's a lot of fever dreams. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's hard to tell the difference between the fever dreams
and the reality. It is Friday, March twenty second, called
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, sorry, I was just thinking of that line from
The Matrix And he's like, do you ever know like
you can't tell the difference between a dream and reality,
And he goes, yeah, it's called mescal. That's a line
from the Matrix before right before you follow the White
Rabbit to the Techno Club. Anyway, it's March twenty second, Jack,
get up out the collar because it's National West Virginia Day.
(00:58):
It's also National Bavarian Crapes Day, a national goof Off Day.
You're freaking goof off.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Not me, man, I'm never goofing off work, especially in
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh yeah, that's happening right now. To my bracket might
be an absolutely mess. I just like vibrations, I had
no idea who the favorite was, and my bracket shows it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, you can just look at like the number one.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I'm more in on the women's tournament, to be honest,
I know I wish I had gotten a women's bracket.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Then that's the one I'm most into. I feel like
the women's bracket's gonna get real, real exciting like men's bracket.
I just want to see the best team lose every
time for no reason.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm just like, yeah, are you always picking this? Are
you always picking the sixteen over the one? Every single time?
The twelve over the five? One of these years, one
of these years, it's going to be all I always chalk.
I always got to pick a couple of twelves over
the five, you know, to start off, don't have any
sixteen ones quite yet, but hey, you know, yeah there's twelve,
isn't hasn't Has that still happened every single year? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Like non basketball fans, this is just gibberish, But yeah,
shout out to people.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Who are enjoying the tournament.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Shout out to my dad who used to take me
out of school for the tournament. Yeah, just to chill
watch some games, watch some hoops.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It like like a school that your dad worked at
Dayton is in the tournament and the school that my
dad worked out Long Beach Date got them. I got
them with the upset just for the vibes.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah yeah, I would have to pick any anybody I
have like any relation to.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, they're taking it all the way, dating going.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So far because I'm like, I don't know, dude, I
just want Jack to kind of heard of you. Yeah yeah,
they Oh ship, Sorry what happened?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I missed a text from my wife earlier this morning
and then and it was like a timely text, and
so I turned my ringer back on. So that's what
you are hearing. Oh, and you're trying to say, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Going to keep it on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't I don't care. I'm just gonna you're gonna
hear how many texts I get. It's not gonna be many.
My name is JACKO Ryan AKA all these almonds and
all these crows out here. Somebody's getting fucked talking at
squawking at spitting at crows, hoping this plate of nuts
eaten by crows. Fuck this, I'm spitting mad, I'm hitting
at crows. Got one dodging sticks, one calling oh no
(03:16):
at his courtesy at christi Yamagucci Mane on the Discord.
I didn't hit the crows, Christy Almagucci Mane. I just
got disappointed in them. I just looked at them and
showed them my disappointment that they tore my backyard umbrella
to shit just because I missed one day of their feeding. Yeah,
(03:38):
told you, I'm not hitting not hitting crows.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm not like an ancient Mariner in some poem. I'm
not fucking not tempting the fates.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Don't do that. Don't do that anyways.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles Grass aka.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It's my friend Joe. He he got geeze or brain?
It's my friend Joe, he got geeze or brain? Beep beep?
Who got come for the veep that Cleo universe on
the discord. Took me a second to figure out what
(04:17):
exactly the cadence was, but when I figured it out,
it's my phrase. Yeah, anyway, thank you for that, and
thank you to missy Elliott. I couldn't figure that one out,
so great work everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Also shout out to Hannah Sultas on the Discord who
just puts the aks in and doesn't tell us what
song it's for, just like.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Figure out what do you mean it's in there?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Which was sometimes I've noticed panoramic view. We'll just put
it without the without the song.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
All right, Well look look, look you know I'm not
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's like artistry. That's like, yeah, I don't give a funk.
Some are so spot on though, you're like, already know
what this is exactly. Yeah, Like I just I respect it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Every everything so perfect that they don't need to put
it in Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in
our third seat. We're hitting for the cycle with faces
on Mount Zeitemore. Three in a row. A hilarious and
brilliant producer and TV writer you know him from the
Yo is This Racist podcast?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It is Andrew and.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't have a musical AKA because and this will
I'll reveal the onion of this later, but my AKA
is going to be Gotham's spookiest baker. This is the
only thing I've accomplished in the last two weeks. It
honestly could have been all of my items, So.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
All of your overrated, underrated search history, search history.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, piece of Internet content. I'll explain it, Okay, intrigue,
You don't understand intrigue?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Is there a culinary Batman villain? I feel like it
should be, right. I tried everything. If I have my way,
there's about to be one.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
There's about to be there's about to be a new
I guess joker sidekick.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I don't. I don't really know entirely what's happening here.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But delicious begnets.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, yeah, I guess, like Alfred is the only one
who's like flexes any kind of culinary muscle sometimes you see.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But yeah, I think I think it is because it's
so like Batman billionaire centric. They don't like, no one can.
He doesn't care who makes the food, right, he doesn't know.
He's so removed from that process. Yeah, he's never even
seen a kitchen. Yeah no, no, where does the food
come from? That's so interesting. That's such an interesting question.
(06:38):
I never even thought about.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He probably like ezy, he'd probably freak out seeing a
kitchen for the first time. Yeah, Like in that scene
in ace Ventura two when he goes in that room
with all the taxi der meat animals, He's like like,
just like what the tools of labor? No, no, wow,
super producers Victor justin.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Just both time being like condiment King, you're you're missing
condiment king'. That's exactly like what I would expect. I mean,
they have like a calendar bad guy like they they
will do.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Thank you for that, King, Yeah, thanks so much for
pulling that up.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's kind of.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
That's funny though.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
They're just like, I don't know, kids don't give a
fuck about baking. Let's just the only food thing they know,
ketch up and mustard.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's so funny that the people like the comic book
company that brought you Condiment King when they switched to
cinema decided the only creative viewpoint we could have is
what if all this was deadly serious?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Right right? That's right, play it real, play it real.
I would like to see them pull off like a
serious Condiment King sort of bit, because I mean now
that I remember I remember from the animated series, he
was goofy as hell. Didn't you have like just sport
guns with mustard and ship? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Doesn't do you have a like like It's like it's
like he looks like kind of like a mega man villain. Yeah,
if I'm recalling correctly, a catchup squirter and a mustard squirre.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, mustard gas Like, I mean, mustard mustard doesn't always
have the most pleasant connotations.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's true of World War One era. So, oh my god,
I didn't know his origin story. He was later revealed
to be stand up comedian Buddy Sandler.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But the one thing that DC consistently got right is
how many, like of the worst people on Earth are
failed stand up comedian That's truly.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, there's some wisdom here.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's just the unifying theory. The one thing that's consistent
across is like, yeah, the Joker was a failed standard
comic and conomic king. Well he got a failed stand
up comic. Listen, even I failed online comic strip. So
we buried it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Technically you could like, technically he's not a stand up,
but you could tell the Riddler a couple of.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, oh, the Riddler failed out of
u uh UCB, Like, yeah, lowest level. They were just
like this guy's just going for punchlines.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Every you could always retake the class.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The only one who failed out of that. All right,
Andrew T, it's it's truly wonderful to have you here.
We're going to get to know you a little bit
better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our
listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We're going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Trump's lawyer, who so we speculated like that Trump will
secretly take money from foreign governments to get out of
this four and fifty four million dollar hole, and then
that will like buy those governments various things later when
it's present, such as the country. I don't know, but
(09:55):
his lawyer was straight up asked the question on news
and the answer was pretty pretty stagger and killed it
with pop. We'll talk about that. I might even talk
about America's corpse problem all of that plenty more. But first,
Andrew TI, we do like to ask our guest, what
is something from your search history?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
You knew it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This is the one that was going to kick off
the whole thing. My search history, the most recent, not
most recent, the most revealing thing I searched recently was
is there such a thing as savory fondant? And that
is because and I'm just going to do this whole
story because I, again, as I said earlier, could not
be more proud of myself.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The quickest version of this is my friend, writer and
showrunner Zie Chun used to be a writer on the
television show Gotham, and I am just out of friendship
embargo because he posted all this recent yesterday on social media,
so I feel like I can tell the story. Yeah, nice,
he and this has all been on the internet.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So he basically tweeted about a failed pitch he had
at Gotham, wherein the most psychologically devastating thing that could
happen is Bruce Wayne gets baked a cake, but when
he cuts into the cake, it's a lasagna inside. So mildly,
(11:22):
I'll say, this motherfucker would fuck you way up like that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't care who you are. That would be a
real problem.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
This motherfucker has been talking about this for seven years.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I think we worked out. Literally, he brings it up
all the time. And this is this is a side note.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I realized every TV writer has a pitch that they
are so bitter that they got that got rejected, that
they will never let go. Yeah, I remembered mine. It's
about it was at Robot Chicken. It was a bit
that almost made it through the process that onto TV
but then got killed about a predator that had asthma.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Anyway, that's actually the whole joke.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So like invisible but you just hear him everywhere? Does
the wheezing have like the little like digital whistles and
stuff mixed in with this?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I was prepared to let the director work all that out.
Is that for me, my pitch is basically from the
predator's perspective. The events of every Predator movie are just
like a sort of deliferent style worst hunting trip you've
ever been on. And anyway, see it's cold, but so
(12:38):
Zi has been pitching or been talking about lasagna with
inside a birthday cake. But when you cut into lasagna
and so last week for his birthday, me and our
friend Portsac Pichette showt made him.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The Loasanya cake. And that's why I had to google
is there such thing as safe refonded and there is not?
Fond of primary ingredient is sugar Just to get it
to even be like that sort of sticky, hard surface.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, sugar, Yeah, I wonder something. I mean, I guess
the thing that would have the closest consistency is lasagna.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Everyone is everyone when I tell them this does exactly
what you just did, which is it starts the it
starts the brainstorm going.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Right, Yeah, what's the what's the replacement ingredient? Because I really,
I really listen.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
We went down there like, okay, if you mix like
ricotta with cream cheese at the right proportions, and just
like all kinds of options there was there was a
hearty debate about palmda puree with like gelatine.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh wow, you guys are We were really trying to
make this happen, mostly because.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I was like, I'll do the prank, but I'm not
gonna waste food. Yeah, because because that's so fucked up.
So ultimately, what we did so the barrier where we
hit upon those like any version of something savory was
going to give away the surprise via smell. So we
made a lasagna in a back of lazagia and then
(14:11):
froze them, took them out of the freezer, and then
for the sake of the prank because this is the
real world. We wrapped them in foil, covered the foil
in regular fondent, and then iced and decorated that Wow,
and it was it worked. We actually like fooled into it,
(14:32):
and I have a video he cuts into it. He
was like, oh, it's an ice cream cake. And you
could hear me just too fast going yep and ice
cream cake.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yep, ice cream cake.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's right, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
All for you.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But I also I had to I got a knife
sharpener and like got my like my knife sharp to
the sharpest it could possibly be, so it's it could
with minimum effort.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Anyway, I know that's the long version of how this
question usually goes, but I cannot stress this is the like,
this is the most flawlessly any project I've ever been
involved with full stop has ever gone like we We
gave out every possibility. I like, I had like a
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hero angle and like some candle positions to make sure
some of the blasagna lumps didn't show through.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'm so proud of this. It's on.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's on my Twitter, It's probably off my Instagram stories
by the time this comes out, but it's on. It's
on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's amazing. Writers are so weird.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I love it great, but like, just for reference, like
this bit is older than his child and he's still
and I'm not clear who he loves more.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Shit, that's so great.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
What is something you think is underrated movies?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You can understand I watched a bunch of the Oscar
movies or not understand.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
But like I think I am, I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Have moved to the point where like any debate, like
I hate, I just don't think film debate is good
anytime anything is ambiguous. I mean the let's just say
that the two sides of this coin to me are
of your very clear done two and zone of interest. Really,
(16:24):
like every type of discussion about this, I'm just like,
oh my gosh, just fucking make it. Your filmmakers put
it on the screen. I know you think, I know
you think that, like your audience is better than this
or it should be better than this, but the reality
is they're not.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, so vaguely show, don't tell. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
We've moved into a new era where people are too
stupid to like be trusted with film debate.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That's my yeah, that's my take to just like have
a scroll at the end.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, it was like, here's what we'd like you to
take away from this.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think I think.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Every movie now should be required to do like a
eighties movie montage type thing where you just see like
a two second like still or not still, like a
like a little like frame of each like a close
up of each character, and just underneath it should say
director thinks this is a good guy, director thinks this.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Was the good guy.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
He wanted you to root for this person. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I think I just think that is what Evidently the
Internet has revealed to me that that is what we
as a society require, right, and I think we should.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We should inact that, I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Like much lower stakes. But I still remember like the
end of Inception and people just arguing endlessly like no,
it definitely is a dream, like he meant it for
it to be a dream, and it's like, wait, what
did you think he was doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
With that last Did you think you didn't show whether
it fell or not? No?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, like you can kind of tell that it wobbled,
So it's definitely he's not in a dream.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Dude. It's so weird, you know what it is? I
think it's it's the advent.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Of four K like things that you can pause flawlessly,
that let people analyze pixels right this way.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's just like yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, like even the amount I've worked in just normalizsed television,
I could just tell you no one even like you know,
the freaks who write shows like Gotham has thinking like
that subtly right right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So the Lasagna ca by the way, I do like
that you came up with the exact opposite of is
it cake? Yes, yeah, the reverse of that.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
This is the reverse of is it cake.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I am fully prepared to pitch a show just about
like it's like the Bear, but it takes place in Gotham,
and it's just all the unreasonable, fucked up requests that
these people work for the Joker.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, just like below the line employees for the Jokers,
like back at back of House for but like back
of House at both Wayne Manor and then in the
Jokers like organization and like the the day is won
by like them being able to like pull various things
together or not.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
They all hang out. I think they all go to
the same about their bosses like everybody does.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Like bro I turnover. It's like between you know, fucking
IBM and Apple and Microsoft like it's yeah, they're they're
just all cycling back and forth. They're like, actually, this
guy was a real riser over in the Jokers, like
Henchman infrastructure, actually bring them in. Yeah, I'd actually be
pretty good here. He's like, yeah, he actually QC seventy
(19:57):
baby dolls that emitted nerve gas out of the bus.
But the Jokers ship, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Actually like kind of artistically done. Yeah, it was crazy,
one of the flawed ones that could have could have
ended everyone's life in the factory if it was for
his you know, sharp Ey.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It's just there's so much manufacturing that that's the that's
the real story of the real untold story of anything
that a Gotham city is this This ship takes a
lot of work, the just the engineering that goes into that,
you know, the manufacturing that goes into any dumb ship
the Joker does. Come on, yeah, come on, those are
(20:34):
the real heroes. These guys too hopped up on drugs
to figure this ship out himself.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
So is the dune to debate that, Like, people are like, no,
Paul was good guy, and that's fucked up that he's
pro like American imperialism is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That of the debate.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I just saw Dune too. I had been avoiding it,
but I did know there was a controversy.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I think it's it's like I would say American, but
the worlds like protagonist problem. Like yeah, like, oh, I
saw a YouTube that made my fucking headspin where I
guess like listen, I know I'm old and like English
is an evolving language, like I understand that pov now
(21:17):
means the opposite of pov as does literally like.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Me.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
However, I did see and part of it was because
this guy was otherwise I don't even remember the YouTube,
but otherwise so like pretentious and like prescriptive about like film,
but insisted on calling villains the antagonist sort of like
without understanding that something can be an antagonist to a
(21:43):
protagonist but not a villain specifically in like I think
it was an analysis of done one or two, but
it was this thing where I was like, oh, they
think they basically it's just a sort of codified like
protagonist is a quote unquote good guy, right, and like
they don't understand and like that's not correct, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That was good guy, that's me. Yeah, which is why why.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'll even give directors a third option. They could just
say mid underneath the character and it doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But that's how you decide Yeah, not supposed to know, Yeah, Mark,
but no, but it's yeah, fu fuck movies that you
can't understand.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I'm I'm all, I'm pure Madam Web. Ye give me.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Dump that exposition about say, your mother being in the
Brazilian wilderness right before?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Did I talk about this on this show? I guess
I must not have. Do you guys know that In
the actual theatrical cut of Madam Web, I assume it's
even better. It's cut in a way that is comedically amazing. Really,
it cuts away from the end, so it is like
it is just like sort of like camp. There's sort
(23:10):
of like a rocky horror picture version of Edging where
they like.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And it's just like it does it. They don't complete
the line, they like cut away, and I'm like, ah,
the whole theater was just freaked down. It was amazing
what we came for. Literally, Yeah, Madam Webb.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Is currently my most enjoyable cinematic experience of twenty twenty four.
I believe, although Lovelight, Love Lies Bleeding was pretty.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Good was Love Lives Bleeding good? That I just watched
Saint Maud that film, yeah movie, and that was really.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yet Love Life's Bleeding.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Is good in a way that yeah, I loved how
just disgusting it was. I'm like, yeah, fucking everything looks
like it's there's a new there's a new filmmaker in
my pantheon of And I'm taking this from someone on Twitter,
but I can't remember who, but who said Dave Eggers and
Yorgo Slanthemos are the top top two of the you know,
(24:07):
it's smelled crazy in their cinematic universe that I think
the director, Oh sorry, let's be rose Glass. Rose Glass
from a new a new entry into you know, you know,
it's crazy, a Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's it just that movie looks like a fucking stinks
Yeah not in yeah that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
That's also one of the only movies that I've ever
when I saw the preview, turned to the person I
was with and was like, that's a great fucking title.
Like I was just like, God, damn man, they like
kind of nailed the poetry of that one. They really Yeah,
all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
back and talk about something you think is over eighty
We'll be right.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Back and we're back.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
We're back, and we do like to also ask our
guest Andrew, as you very what is something you think
is overrated?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I'm realizing as I say this one I'd written it down.
I a thousand percent sure I have done this already,
but it remains true fucking taking care of yourself. I
feel like I've been like like doing like just old
man mobility, stretches in the morning, drinking drinking water a
(25:31):
lot more and the returns are marginal.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I'm not saying it bad, but the returns are.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And listen, there's true man with your animal effort, you
mean return so much.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It takes. It's a lot more like that I want
to do.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
We'll say, I'm just like, oh my god, I'm going
to follow a fucking Instagram reel of how to stretch
when you're old, right, and I like do it.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And I but here's the thing. I'm not saying it's bad.
I'm saying it's overrated. That's right, it's it's there. Are
there are some returns, but not are you still boxing? No? No?
I mean where the returns better? Boxing? Did you feel better?
From when you're training boxing. Ooh, wonderful question.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I mean, technically speaking, no, and I will say I
will say it's it's clear. It's clear that these are
part and parcel of things that happened whilst boxing are
affecting my need for mobility stretching. But no, I mean
I felt destroyed after boxing, but like not boxing and
(26:43):
stretching and drinking water, I only feel a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Interesting, as I've gotten older, like a lot of the
things that are supposed to invigorate me, like doing the
plunge or drinking enough water or like working out in
the morning now instead just make me tired. Like I've
like started to be like I don't think Donald Trump
is like right about many things, but his thing about
(27:09):
like how exercise like wastes the energy and you only
have a certain number of heart beats in your life, right, Like, Yeah,
I see where, I see how he got there, because
exercise is exhausting.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
My body is old as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, long term though,
I'm sure you'll you'll you'll appreciate it. Long term though,
because even the mobility stuff, you're not gonna turn stiff. Andrew,
you're shaking your head. No, vigorously. Here's why you don't
think there's any long term benef Every older person in
my in my life has told me, man, at the
very least, fucking stretch because it will become.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I agree with you, but I here's what I What
I mean, though, is when you don't do it, you
like have some like you know, you have some level
of regret because you see you kind of like imagine
and remember when you were more limber and you feel
yourself being old and stiff now.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But if you do stretch, you.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Still wind up pretty stiff, and all you do, you're
like you're like a little more limber. Of course, again,
I'm not saying it's useless. I'm just saying the the
ROI is not what I'd hoped.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Sure, you feel a little better, but I don't think
you feel enough better to justify it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I also think the answer is just like everybody's body
is so different, you know, like, yeah, the cold plunch
thing really seems to work for some people, and for
me it's like somebody just like fucking shook the ship out.
You kind of are you going to a place to plunge,
do you?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, no, no, no, we just have a pool that
is cold.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Okay, but you're not doing the ship where you're putting
like ice in like a little buck.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I'm not cry like that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, crying, oh fucking myself.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, but it's still just like I feel tired, and
I'm like, yeah, because it just like flooded me with
all this fucking I don't know whatever the blood chemicals
are that when.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Your body's like fuck, fuck, fuck, what the what the
fuck is that?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know, like stop it stop, and then my body's like, yeah,
well that sucked all.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Right, Yeah, good luck having guide. I need to recover
for forty eight hours. Yeah, exactly, I think. But yet
I think it's also revealing that maybe Andrew, you're one
of the like the rare people who doesn't have to
do much to still feel okay all the time. Who
because I am also kind of in that world too,
(29:41):
where I'm like, Noah, Brian, do a ship. I'm like,
evolutionarily speaking, they're like you had to. I was like,
is laziness an actual positive trait evolutionarily speaking? Yeah, probably?
But I'm a little both, Yeah, because I have friends
who need it and they're like, no, I'm fucked up
like I have. Yeah, and I look at them. I'm like,
you have to do something. I do feel like I
(30:02):
don't want to. I don't want the listeners and you
miles to misunderstand me. I do feel like shit. I'm
just saying. All I'm saying is the amount that I
feel like shit isn't changing time. I'm here to say
I'm one of the physically exalted few.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You can just dump garbage in your body not do
anything down.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I mean, I don't know what blood work says, but
I don't do blood. Blood work lies.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, that's right, blood work, lies bleeding.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
The follow up full circle.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
All right, speaking of Trump, let's talk about this is
just a quick interview, but I think it's worth noting
because we've mentioned before the possibility that like Trump could
take for money to help pay his mounting legal debts,
which he and his lawyers keep being like, that's impossible,
we will not be able to pay this, and it's
(31:00):
but you're supposed to be billionaire man. You're supposed to
have all these buildings that you can just sell.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Testified earlier that you had four hundred million dollars cash.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, just like around in a bathtub.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I think, yes, my wallet's in the other room though,
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna pay it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I was gonna pay it. I was in pay it today.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I was, presumably because they thought she'd have a better
answer than this. FOXO has actually questioned his lawyer about this,
like straight up, just were like, so, are you planning
on paying the four hundred and fifty four million dollars
using money from countries like Russia or Saudi Arabia, like
you know, like the woke lib media is saying.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And the response was surprising. Yeah, and I guess shouldn't
because Alena Habba. Yeah, her entire course of representing Donald
Trump has just been like a fucking Hall of fame
of like wacky legal takes and sometimes you're like, does
this person actually know the law or are they just
there to be like a hot take merchant. But anyway,
here's the question and answer a segment.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
There is there any effort on the part of your
team to secure this money through another country Saudi Arabia
or Russia? As Joy Behar seems to think, well, there's.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Rules and regulations that are public. I can't speak about
strategy that require certain things, and we have to follow
those rules, like I said, this is manifest injustice. It
is impossible. It's an impossibility. I believe they knew that.
I think that's why mid trial, frankly, they changed their
ask from two hundred and fifty million to the ridiculous
amount of money that they've asked for. I think everything
(32:40):
is done in.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I mean, I think it's also important that number they
came up with that's based on the amount of fraud
from organization, but that they're like, you know what, fuck them.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Another case about how you're always saying you have more
money than you do and how you're always saying you
have this amount of money, but just the answer some
wasn't no is kind of the big take.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I can't speak about strategy, yo, I'm sorry, because like
if you think about like you cannot get a security
clearance if you got a ton of debt, that's just
a that's just a general thing when it comes.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
To like as seems to think like that's like that
you can't actually knock that one out of the park.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Unfortunately, Like a I could answer that.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's like, hey, Chatt, you're a guest on Fox News
and you have just been told something that Joy Behar said,
what is your answer like the the response under the
opposite of a Joy bahar Andrew.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I can't speak about strategy that requires certain things. I
think we're done here that requires certain things. That's true,
very very succinct and specific. I can't speak about strategy
that requires certain things and we're in here. Yeah man,
that's like that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I mean, yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I genuinely think that those countries would sort of say
this is too like we could buy Trump for much less.
I think what's going on is an actual negotiation that like,
I think the problem is like they're like, we can
get you for what you get you for eighty miil
dog like this isn't this isn't a shade and markup.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
So I think they're trying to rally together like a
like a coalition, you know, like trying to buy the
nets or whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Get a couple consortium of owners. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, if like if like you know, twenty countries each
kick in eighty like that we're talking you know, forty
forty million.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Now we got I know that. The hard bit there
is just being like once he gets it, he's not
even like bro oh y'all shit. Yeah, I see him
easily being like yeah, I just skated on that. Sorry, Peace, It's.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It does feel like and this probably can't be true,
just given the way the world is, but it does
almost feel like his bullshit, like he's run out of
runway on his you know, just yeah fucking train track
that he was building, like as he was driving the
train of just like lies and bullshit and intimidation and
(35:17):
like just this this feels like the place where it's
like his just unshakable like inability not to want to
have as much money as possible and want to seem
like he has as much money as possible is like
kind of getting in the way of him being able
to function in the way that.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
He has up to up to this point.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well, and then there's also just too like the people
that were giving him money, I think they're just they're
also i think literally running out of money too. Yeah,
like the small dollar donors, like the people that are
sub two hundred dollars donations, and they like, he had
almost sixty three percent less money from small dollar donors
than he did in twenty nineteen, and it's just been
trending down.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Me let me throw this out there. This is this
is for all you maga heads out there. This is
this is what Joe Biden's been trying to do with
all this inflation. You know, he's trying to keep you
from being able to send money to thank you President Trump.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, I mean we'll see Willis Sheldon Adelson or someone
come from the shadows and be like, all right, bro,
here's the money. But it's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
But that's like behavior at this point because it's like
all you're doing is protecting the money you already threw
at him. Yeah he's not you're not giving him, You're
not getting anything from him. Yeah, not even enabling though too.
It's just like like it's it's ro o I listen.
I clearly all I've been taking is ro O I
up and down. That's my last show. But what is
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the value of giving him this money?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Like you're not going to get it worth billion dollars
back in some other ship or if maybe you do
and the maybe you've done some calculus and you're like,
well it's worth it for certain arm shipments depending on
what government is looking at this. But yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
We first heard that, like the Chubb guy was going
to bail him out, I was like, I mean it
kind of makes sense because he thinks he might be president,
but how like what possible way is he getting that
money back? And then it was like, oh no, that
shit fell through.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He's not going to be getting but.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Like what could what in what form could you possibly
get a four hundred and fifty four million dollar return
on your investment?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I think, honestly, the only way to be like I
don't know if I own all his properties right, own
all his properties?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And the president while he's in the president like well.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, but it's like like what like what you're gonna
like defeat America in a nuclear war? Like what like
what do you get out of this that allows you
to continue to be a wealthy person in a functioning world?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Like this is like starting to be existential in that
like listen, the reality is like even the fucking.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Like worst people on earth don't really want you know,
they're not going to be there. Even their wealth is
not going to be as fun if you know, things
really go to shit. And like, so what do you
get for half a billion dollars from Trump?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Like? Right, what could he offer you? Really? Yeah? I
mean that's why you have to be so wealthy that
a half billion is like out, bro, it's gotta be Putin,
Like it really does have to be Putin or Saudi
Arabia at this point. Like that's why this quest line
of questioning makes sense and should not have been like
flippantly raised by Fox News. Like Putin is what is
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probably the richest person in the history of the world.
He just like hides his money and like cello players
that he grew up with, but he could probably swing it.
But like that feels like it's gotta be illegal and.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Well yeah, but but even if he, yeah, what like
he would have to do it out of like personal
like friendship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't think that exists, Like there's no like or
just like such a severe switch in foreign policy that
like you can make it easier to fully just antagonize
like the rest of Western year up and then be like, oh, yeah,
do your thing, bro, We're not gonna do ship like
go get their ass. I don't know, but even then
that seems so far off.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I just don't think if you want that, there's better
ways to spend half a billion dollars, Yeah, for sure,
for sure, Like.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I think also when you look at like the
rumors around him are like people keep telling him he
might be able to win on appeal to the Supreme Court,
and you're like, he's like, yo, you're really You've got
your head in the fucking clouds right now. I mean,
I know they're down to bail you out, but like
I don't to like paying on that or being like,
well watch this. If they do see my assets, my base,
(39:35):
They're gonna really come to life when they see them
take all my things away from me, and that's what
they love. That's maybe, but yeah, it's really hard to say.
But you break up, you bring up the superport.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
If I'm Vladimir Putin, you can buy the Supreme Court
for three million dollars, why would you buy the executive
temporarily for half a billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah? Right, sure, Like it's it's just like not worth it.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, that's yeah. And I maybe might be chief executive,
you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
For a chance.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
So yeah, your expected value on that is like, I
don't know, forty eight percent, right, So you need to
you need to get a full billion dollars worth out.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Of this, right, Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, As your financial advisor, Vladimir Putin, we're gonna say
just like keep your powder drive for a little bit
till he gets real desperate.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Hate giving you good financial advice here sound financial advice. Yeah,
I'm telling you better ways to spread that money out. Man.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You could buy the other two branches of government for
one hundred max. Oh yeah, easy, easy, Yeah, I think sixty.
Maybe you know it doesn't bad, it's bad, it's bad value.
Don't do it flat or do it?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break and then
we're gonna come back with some financial advice for other
international monsters.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
And we're back, and America has a bit off a
uh corpse problem. We're running out of cemetery space. There's
there's like wait lists and ship like it like a
trendy restaurant.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
My god.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, it's everywhere. It's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I think it's also funny like if people in our
minds were like, yeah, cemetery, like that's where your bodies go,
without thinking that that's a finite piece of land. That's
just like a little park. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
They usually don't have empty spots, tons of empty spots.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, because the solutions are not great, Like it's like
you can be buried in a communal grave, or there
might be someone buried upon top of you. Yeah, if
you as a way to make space or reapes, this
is the this is the fifteen minute city of death.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah. Do you want to know what to do with
all those hotels that people aren't staying in anymore?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yes? Oh boy?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
But yeah, I guess this is especially a problem in
the US, where people seem to believe that cemeteries never
run out of space. That seems to just be a
frame of mind us in general. That is not true,
which is why some bodies have to get buried on
top of existing graves. Like Miles said, some countries only
rent out graves, meaning that the term expires, the bodies
(42:35):
duck up and added to a communal grave, kind of
like a timeshare for skeletons.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You got to be like, oh, oh, Gray, you know
my burial plot. It ain't a rental Oh right, yeah, eternity, eternity, okay,
exactly exactly, I see you forever, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
The other problem is that cemeteries are actually terrible for
the environment. We pump bodies full of like toxic chemicals
for their big day in the like open casket funeral
and then just like shove them into an in a
concrete in cased wooden box that gets buried in the earth.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't I have no idea what.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Could be wrong with that, but apparently the embalming chemicals
have been known to leech into groundwater.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, and that's why I was like, oh, why can't
they do it? Like it's like in Japan and like
asy it's cremation, like yeah, because like in Tokyo, there's
no room. If you go to like a graveyard in
Tokyo or like a cemetery, it's just a bunch of
stone pillars like crammed together because everything everyone is cremated.
But even then, I guess that also has issues too.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, yeah, there's a cremation also problematic for the environment.
It produces millions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year.
Many facilities lack modern filtration systems, so you're probably breathing
in a bunch of corpse right now. Corpse does I'm
fine with that, which I'm good with, Like, that's actually
what illow to happen to my body is, yeah, to
(44:09):
get inhaled and then coughed out by some future you know, asthmatic.
But I guess cremation has gone from twenty six or sorry,
twenty one percent of like you know, bodies in the
US in nineteen ninety six to now fifty six percent, which, yeah,
(44:30):
I guess people are just becoming less.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
On the balance. That has to be the it has
to be the better option, right, I'm skimming the research here.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
But yeah, well I think there's there's a lot of
different angles because I can see how there is. You'll
also see studies like from people that are for traditional
burial to be like cremation is actually really bad for
the environment. Well, like this other thing is really bad
for the environment because there are a lot of stakeholders
when you think about like especially the traditional set like
this cemetery industrial complex, like yeah, forest lawns, et cetera.
(44:58):
They definitely because you know, anybody who's driven on the
one thirty four past Griffith Park, like over the years,
you've seen like this one part that was like a
hillside slowly be like, no, man, we got to fucking
put graves there too. Yeah, clips that ship up like
to the fence line. And I grew up, like growing
up in La like that always used to be like
this one part you really couldn't see much of, like
(45:19):
the cemetery, but now it's fully like to the like
the property borders. Yes, you know, it takes up.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Space, which is what you want your eternal rest in
place to have a good view of the highway.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah. Yeah, the lawless one thirty four that the home
of the highest rates of speeding.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
This has to be like rooted in religion somehow, like
the idea that a body specifically is so precious and important.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yes, so it was I think the right like cremation,
I think is against the rules for like Catholicism at least.
Oh so, yeah, so they speculate that the reason that
creams going up is because people are getting less serious
about like following every letter of the law.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Right, there's a cool pope. Now he'll let you bring
it to Chris that there is wild rules. I actually
did not know. I don't know jack shit about any
type of Christianity, it turns out. But yeah, wow, now,
I just I remember yet in school, like going to
like Lutheran and Catholic school, talking like I remember when
my grandfather died during like the same time the north
Ridge earthquake. I missed school and I came back and
(46:30):
then I explained what a Japanese like funeral was. I'm again,
and then they cremate you and they're like, oh, yeah,
we don't. It's just a gas.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Audible gas goes up throughout the entire school.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh yeah, like that ship. You saw me do the
lebron with the talcum powder earlier. That was my grandfather.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
So the good news is more and more Americans are
considering green burials, where you skip the embalming fluid, where
biodegradable outfits or wear nothing at all, like just being
like loose, throw my dead body in the ground, loose,
bury me loose. Whose line is that?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's from Twitter? Now, I think it's just we should
credit that.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I think it was one of our former guests. Yeah really,
Oh yeah I think so, Travis. Yeah it was your doing.
That's how I thought it was you.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But he said, damn, a
coffee costs four thousand dollars, y'all can bury me loose?
Two years ago? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
But anyways, so there's that you get. They could just
throw your naked ass in the ground loose. They can
also there's a new thing, new cremation process called aquamation
or alkaline hydro license, which immerses bodies in a mixture
of water and strong alkali and liquefies everything but the bones.
(48:00):
Which so they basically like due to your body what
Heathcliff the cat does to a fish, or like they
put the fish in and then just pulls the skeleton clean, skele, Yeah,
this is what I want. But then they then they
dry your bones in an oven and reduce that to
white dust, which fine, but it feels like you're wasting
my skeleton. Like I just got it. I just gave
(48:23):
you a clean skeleton, and you're not going to scare
some kids with my stock.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I will say, this alkalization is it?
Speaker 3 (48:31):
I'm pretty sure that's the ship they do to that
one guy at Breaking Bad, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, exactly. But I think that one actually dissolves the bones,
whereas this one just is like the process for getting
some bones, forgetting some clean, nice shiny bones. There's something
about this that really.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Excites just about your own skeleton, like you you're yeah,
a jack skelling, that's right.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I think ever since I heard that, I've just been
like my bones just desired.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
To be free.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
That we get out to jumped out of my body flesh.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I'm I'm all for this for the the green movement.
Of course, there is going to be some dumb bullshit.
For instance, people are like water cremation, that must mean
that they recycle your bodies into drinking water and that
we're all drinking corpse juice. Yeah, it does not, but
(49:32):
you know, the existing cemetery human remains disposal industry is
obviously not gonna also something like.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
That to those people.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
I got real bad dues about standing bodies of water.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, it's all in there. Yeah. I also like, yeah,
the other pushback from the Catholic Church they called the
process unnecessarily disrespectful of the human body and if pressure
makers not to prove it, And I'm like, oh, yes,
the Catholic Church the true arbiters of what is and
isn't disrespectful. It's the human body. Yeah. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Concentrate on some of the stuff you're doing as sub
living bodies first.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Then I just think it's it's desecration, you know, That's
that's what it is. It's like we but again, we
don't have unlimited cemetery space, so some's gotta give. I mean, yeah, culturally,
I see myself going the way of the dust packet.
But yeah, then but then we can free up so
much land, that's right, you know, Yeah, yeah, I mean
(50:37):
that's it.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
So Germany is obviously a little bit ahead of us
on the macabre and death related things, and so they've
like already been converting cemeteries to just like parks, which.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I don't know. I grew up in.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
I lived a lot of places, and the ones that
I like spent a lot of time like riding bikes around.
I remember like cemeteries being just some of the most
beautiful places, like in these towns or just these like
huge lush parks that are just full of dead bodies.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Lives near sort of a cemetery in Atlanta, And last
time I was there, we took a little walk and
there was a moment where I was like, what's one
of these motherfuckers are slaves?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Oh? All of them? Oh they're on that mausoleum over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
But yeah, the part I used to walk through it
as long as you don't think about anything.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I guess that's the part is I've never been able
to go into like a cemetery and be like, oh, yes,
you know what I mean. Oh really, I don't know,
Like I just every time I'm in there, I'm like,
damn shit, this is this is where everybody dead. Everybody dead
in here. Yeah, that's everywhere. Bro, I know, that's just
I think my own sort of like juvenile perception of
like a cemetery. But like zooming out, it is true,
(51:58):
Like the grass is always green, they great trees, there's
a lot of shade, and yeah, I guess I just
have to throw cemeteries up there with like golf courses.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, like golf courses first.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, yeah, let's courses golf courses first, and then we'll
get to you later cemeteries. But yeah, also, like, but
what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
I'm saying there's a little convergence right here at.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Golf bury them, bury the golfers where they stand. Yeah
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
But then what do you do? Like, do you to you?
Does it matter that there is like a place where
the quote unquote body is at rest that you can visit.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
I think there's probably like I think it's fine to
like bury people loose or like in the biodegradable clothing,
and then you can go visit, and there's probably should
be like some regulation around that.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I don't. I think that's fine.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I think it's important like sometimes to like have a
ritual or a ceremony of some sort with around death.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
I would definitely want to make room for everybody to
have their specific rituals because it's it's a tough thing
to get your mind around, for sure.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah, But I like just.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Entangling them from real estate is. I think it's so
important the fact that it has to be done like
a real estate deal. The second yeah, as you're dealing
with that ship is I don't want to like overly
follow the money here, but I think for the Catholic Church,
I kind of imagine cemeteries are a relatively large profit
(53:30):
center for the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, it requires employing a priest usually or
hiring a priest, but just like like if it's on
church grounds, I assume you got to pay some sort
of maintenance, like it's eternal rent, right, yeah, because I
just think, yeah, like because in Japan, like we have
a thing called buzadam, which is like an altar that
you kind of keep in your house that is meant
to sort of be like your little shrine for family
(53:54):
members that have passed away, and that's how you pay
your respect. I mean you can obviously rave yard or something. Yeah,
you can visit that, but it'll be like a picture
of them, and then you'll put some like their favorite
stuff in there, Like my grandfather like scotch, So you
put a bottle of scotch in there, like cigarettes that
he liked or whatever, and then you light incense and
that's kind of like how you kind of be like, yeah,
there he.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Is, alright, cool, I don't have to go to But
to me, it's so weird that like the people that
believe most in the idea of like a spirit or
an angel or whatever think that spirits can't go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I'm just like, yeah, just fucking have a representation or whatever.
Like their spirits they can fly, don't worry. Yeah, they've left,
actually left our physical plane, and that means it's everywhere. Point.
The whole basis of most of the shit is like
they're anywhere. Yeah, the Bible is not like and when
you pass away, you in that fucking box six feet under.
(54:50):
Don't even try to get out that. It's like hanging
on to the one thing that the rest of their
religious like this is the least important part.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, but we do need the most passive income possible,
so we're gonna need you to just pay us rent
while you're dead. If that's cool. Thanks, that's cool with you. Well,
andrew T, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Geist.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
I mean, I don't know, just andrew T.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
I guess, yeah, find find me on Twitter to look
at this fucking ridiculous thing. And my podcast is always
this racist We're doing stuff always. Yeah, one of the greats.
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3 (55:36):
Oh my god, Okay, I'm looking for it now. I'm
scrolling back through my likes. There was a Reddit post
about a guy whose marriage fell apart because he asked
his wife of ten years for a paternity test for
their kid. Wow, and oh shit, I'm not gonna be
able to find it, but it is. It is just
you know, like red pill come up and in general,
(55:58):
just like yeah, this like this, like I was not aware.
I'm you know, I'm aging out of being on the
internet every single second. But yeah, I guess this is
like like a new like Manisphere, red Pill, Joe Roguiny
adjacent or possibly within Joe Rogan. I don't know, like
type of viewpoint is like always get a paternity test, always, dude,
(56:22):
because women women always cheat and like it's so the
post is so funny. Okay, I did find it. I'll
send a link to just like thees. Yeah, just like
a Twitter thing.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I don't know. This might require more actual research.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
But it is just a dude who is like genuinely
like does not understand why his marriage is falling apart
because he called he but you know, essentially accused his
wife of however many years of cheating on him having
a kid with no evidence. It's it's like, it's just
the vibes. I guess, yeah, it's exactly what what he deserves.
(56:57):
But yeah, man, it's fucking blockers amazing.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I always listen to go to you know, I don't
listen to Rogan for his political takes, Okay, guys, but
when it comes to my relationship, that's where I gotta
go to find out that's my wife?
Speaker 2 (57:14):
Man, who's his wife? Does he? Like? It's so misterious? Yeah, that,
Like I imagine like he just like when he's done recording,
he just punches a fucking punching bag, smokes his cigar,
and then cries in the dark or some shit.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Well yeah yeah, I mean he does go into a
flotation tank. So right, it's like kind of woke and
trippy cool. Uh. I can't wait to read that. Miles,
Where can people find you as their working media you've
been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Oh Man, find me on the Twitter, the Instagram at
Miles of Gray, Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast.
I was in Jack on mad Boosti's you can find
me on four to twenty Day Fiance tweet. I like,
this just just reminds me of what Andrew just brought
up in his Overrated Underrated. It's from Brooks oader Lake
at I underscores Eazys, he tweeted. The zone of interest
was confusing to me. People walk out a frame and
(58:01):
it's like, Okay, first of all, where did they go? Secondly,
and I guess this is sort of a related question.
Where are they? Are they somewhere? And I guess this
is a related question. Listen, I all satire, like this
is where we're at. We're we're back to we should
(58:24):
have just a little caption when the when the train
or car comes towards the screen, it's say, don't worry,
you won't be hit by a car? Right?
Speaker 1 (58:31):
Why not not real train?
Speaker 3 (58:33):
We are completely media illiterate, and that should be the
baseline assumption for anyone making anything.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
The tweet I've been enjoying Dan White at Dan White,
who's just a very consistent Twitter presence. Yeah, sharing a
conversation that he's having with a friend about watching March Madness.
He texts his friend, March Madness, baby, can't wait to
watch later, bringing chips. Also, can I use your bathroom?
Is a green room for mister basketball? And then a
(59:03):
picture of a guy in a full body basketball suit
and his friend just writes, please don't wear this suit.
He replies, it's cool. I really don't mind. That's literally
why I bought it. I just need a quote green
room to cool off and eat cliff bars between games
it gets so fucking hot in the suit. Also, need
a place to empty my piss shit bag every fifteen
(59:25):
to seventeen minutes. He goes, No, he says, I promise
I won't spill. Actually, I can't promise that, but I'll
do my best. The backstory this year is that mister
Basketball is a gambling addict who lost eighty thousand dollars
on a Draft Kings and now has to win his
March Madness pool before his wife, Missus Fernandez Basketball, finds out.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
And he has ed shit. I was literally laughing. It's compelling.
It's compelling.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
He's a compelling backstory.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
Shout out to Dan, I'm white.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
You can find me on Twitter liking stuff like that
at Jack Underscore, O Brian, you can find us on
Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily
zeitgeist dot com, where we post our episodes and our
footnote no where we link off to the information that
we talked about today's episode, as well as a song
that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Miles, what's the song you say people might enjoy. There's
a band called Royal Otis and I'm like, just based
on the vibe, I'm like, I'm fairly confident they're from
Australia because there's so many great bands coming out of
Australia right now and This track is called Foam and
it's kind of like a It's like if Kevin Parker
(01:00:43):
from Tam and Paula was like kind of fucking with
more like world rhythms. It's kind of got like that
early Vampire Weekend kind of vibe to it, where it's
like sort of got that sort of like West African
ish adjacent, you know what I mean. Doesn't feel like
straightforward rock, but it's still a dope track. It's called
Bom and it's by Roy l Otis. It's spelled r
O y E l O t I s okay. Well.
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Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
That's gonna do it for us.
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
This morning.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
We are back on Monday with a.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Whole new episode, tell you what is trending, back over
the weekend with a rundown, a digest of all the
stuff we talked about this week, and we will talk
to you all then.
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