August 13, 2019 • 52 mins
Maeven debuts her newest character, Peter and Beth discuss the problematic messaging of the Berenstain Bears, and the new neighbors interrupt the podcast recording.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I got to say, that's annoying. I think that's our
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new neighbor. There's a bang. Oh, it sounds like cartoon
characters like, oh, do we start? Do we start the podcast?
I guess we did. Our new neighbors are making some noise,
as opposed to our former neighbor, who was an elderly
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woman who didn't ever make noise, who just very quietly
would walk out and we'd walk by, and she'd say,
I just have to say, your children are beautiful. After
quietly listened to us screaming at each other the day before.
I have to tell you that when you in your kitchen,
I can hear you, but it's delightful. They're loud, and
the best way your house was cooing. Maybe just clean
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some of the lint out of your window. That's spring
laundry lint at my apartment. It's window opening season. Yes,
your dryer blows lint into my apartment, and it probably
has been for months and months. But I'm only saying
it now before I leave, because she was probably thinking
about the new people moving. She probably was. Yeah, she
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was just such a nice woman. We have to we
have to get her address from her grandson and send
her housewarming Presidenters and Doris, who lives next door to us.
That's how I remembered. Anyway, she's gone. She's so sweet.
This building is being taken over by children and any
all the old people are moving out and welcome, so
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we know parenting. I'm Beth Nell, I'm Peter mcderney, and
this is a late intro. Yeah, we just rolled right in.
We started to record it again. We just heard children's
voices through. Yeah, it was a TV. I don't know, no, no,
there's I cannot figure out the family structure of the
neighbors yet because one, I don't think they're there fully yet.
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Well there, I've only seen the one nice dad and
I think I saw him with a two year old,
but I've heard older kids like nine. Well I think
they might have cousins or something nearby, because there was
visitors at one point. It was really loud one day
during the day, which I don't mind. Um, I will
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never complain. I mean I never mind noise because no
one around here has ever up in the middle of
the night like we are are downst Our. Neighbors just
listen to us and they can't hear anything because of
our new bed. We're not gonna talk about that anymore.
We already have. Um, Beth, how is your weekend parenting? Um?
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Pretty good? Uh? A lot of tantrums, a lot of
extreme tantruming from Maven, which unfortunately from Maven, I just
can't get into it with her the way I could
have Brita. Like, I feel bad for her because I
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very much relate as the second child, But there's just
so much with her where I'm like, oh, you're going
to try to pull that. Good luck. Your brother did
that for a full year until we lost our minds
and realized we're not willing to put up with that anymore.
You know, Like it's just like she's just like she's
screwed in terms of like being indulged in her dramatic episodes.
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But she really made some attempts this week, some very
strong attempts. She's like, I'm three, and I will destroy you.
She's like, oh, really, so you had put you had
given her a new booster car seat because you wanted
to get rid of the old car seat, and I
had worried she's going to pull some ship like branded
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when he got the booster seat, and she hasn't well
there's a big bang. What is there's definitely something maybe
they're hanging some stuff or something that there's a whole
new element to the pod. It's exciting you live next
to someone who's awake past nine pm, like we are
our wild lives. But so anyway, maybe through a tantrum
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before school one morning this week when I was taking her,
which was like it was out of the norm for
her that I was taking her in the morning because
you usually do it, but you had to go film something.
So she didn't like that because she was like, well,
if you're here, mommy, how about we just don't go
to school and I stay home and try to cuddle
you for the next five hours. So she didn't want
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to go to school. And I was like, unlike Brian,
where I would probably have tried to reason with him more,
I was like, I know, this is a three year
old thing that where you're drinking in your heels and
I'm just not going to play this game. And I
was just like, we're wrestling your shoes on, we're walking
out the door. You're going to scream the whole time.
And she did a pulsing screech that I think all
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of our neighbors heard in every unit in every building
in our cul de Sac. Every everyone experienced that. You know,
my solution is when she does that, That's pretty much
what I did. I didn't run, but I was like,
we are moving this along. I'm not engaging with it.
So she screeched and then she got in the car
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and now she has a new booster seat, which thankfully,
thankfully she has not tried to open under the seat belt.
Yeah she's never done that, but I know she's just
moments away from this. So she was trying to put
the window down, and then she decided to try to
open the door while we were driving, and we're only
like half a block away. So I was like, you know,
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I wasn't you know, speeding along or anything. I wasn't
worried for her safety, but I was pissed and I
was like, I was like, oh, no, we're not. And
I was like I got out of the car, child
locked her door and was just like yelling at her
in front of like some man trying to go to
his service job or something. Um, and I was just like,
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I'm not doing this. And so this is where it
was like so much better as a more experienced parent
where I was just like I don't I'm not doing this,
like I am really proud. Yeah that that's not been
your jam that like nope, yeah, and you know what,
you know what this pays off for the next time. Well,
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that's what I think was happening. In my mind. I
was like, I don't like be a hardass now and
cause to try not to cause a scene in front
of people on the street. And then next thing, you know,
she does this every single day and it's a nightmare
I can never escape, you know, like, yeah, it's that thing.
It's like it's not the screaming, although if you when
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Bryn tried to open the car door while we're driving,
I stopped and I screamed at him because I was
like I want to scare you. But aside from that
that just like dispassionate, dig in your heels, forced the
shoes on, throw her over your shoulder, and run to
the car and just show her like you just you
won't win, so forget about. Then we got to daycare
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and she was crying, like she still kind of shrieking,
and she like ran and hugged me and tried to
get me not to leave, and the women at daycare,
We're like, whoa Maven? And they were like, she's not
normally like this, like as if they wanted to inform me.
And I was like, I know, like this is like
it makes me look crazy, like as if when I
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take care of her, this is just what she's like.
But I'm like, she's not. She's just not used to
me taking her to daycare. So she decided to like
flip you know, a yeah, anytime off, it's harder for you.
But I think that's like you did it perfect. Like
you show them that a few more times and then
they're still gonna they stop trying to pull that ship. Yeah, um,
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that's great. Everyone's just like, hey, maybe you're being a
little weird today. Huh she does that in bed? Yeah,
like we're ignoring you. She did. Okay, So this is
the other tantrum I have to talk about is so,
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you know how I bought her some sale clothing from
Hannah Anderson, which is a very pricey clothing place for kids,
but the clothes are really high quality, so when you
get one, it really lasts for a long time. And
so I was at the mall and I spotted to
Hannah Anderson sale, and I impulsively bought Maven a long
sleeve dress and some nit tights which are you know,
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like out of season or like last season whatever, so
they're way too warm for her to wear right now.
But you know, she sees a shiny new item of clothing,
she's going to be rying to put it on because
she loves to look nice. So well, we do not
all of this, Um you do, I do, but not
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like mabn so she so I was like I told you.
I was like, I'm hiding this from her in the
closet because she's not gonna be able to resist. It's
way too sweaty. And then on the weekend they were
doing dress up and she looked in the closet and
found it and insisted on putting it on. And I
was like, this is gonna make you too hot, but
we can try it on. And then she was like, yeah, whatever,
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I'm not hot. And then she's like sweating, and of
course she starts like raging out about something unrelated, and
then like you need to come down. Maybe we should
take off these clothes that are making you sweat and
turn into a monster person, and she's like, no, it's fine,
So it's fine. This is everything I do is exactly
how it should She's like, I look great. This is
how people are supposed to behave. And isn't that just
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women's fashion right there? Like pain is fashion and beauty.
I uh so, I was like, if you keep acting
like this, I'm going to take your clip, your tights off,
and your clothes off. So she keeps ringing out. I
take off the hot tights that are making her sweat.
She's swearing a long sleep dress. I go in the
other room to let her calm down, which our kids
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seem to need lately in their manic state. Is like,
I'm just like trying. I'm trying to give you a
cooling off period if you will just be willing to
disengage for two seconds. So I go in the other room.
She appears to be calming down, but she also has
that sort of like evil thing in her eyes and
eyes like she's and so she calms down, but then
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she walks out and she wants a snack or something,
and I noticed that the backside of the dress she
trying on is soaking wet, and I'm like, you asshole,
you peed while you were laying in our bed, So
while she was calming down from the tantrum, she peeed
on her bed onto our comfort. Not typical at all,
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and we've talked about this in the past episode with
a listener who shared an angry peeing thing from their kids,
and we were like, thank God, our kids don't do that.
So she did it. She peeed on her bed in
her dress, and then she tried to play it off
like she didn't do anything. She's like, no, no, no,
let's just go get a snack. And I was like,
you're covering a pea. So again I'm in this like
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you're my second kid thing mode where I'm just like,
I'm not reasoning with you. You're an asshole to just
peet on my bed. So I take her clothes off
against her will. She wants to keep on her pea clothes.
I throw her in the bathtub. She's super angry that
she has to get pee washed off of her, and
then I wanted there start washing her our our bedding
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and then lay back down in bed. And then of course,
by this point, she's finally calmed down from the tantrum
to the point where she wants to cuddle up with
me and be comforted for her anger and her peeing
in my bed. So and you did it. I did
your good Mama. I held her and I was like,
you idiot. The record did not say out loud, asshole
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er idiot to our daughter. No, I didn't say any
of those things, but I said it in my mind.
And she on the flip side, classic three year old.
She's been so loving in the other moments recently. She
said I love you to me like three thousand times.
This morning death we were walking to the car to
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go to daycare and she goes, Daddy. I looked down,
and then she puts her head down and she just goes,
I love mommy. She said it to me just so
many times in the how she goes, I love you,
I love you, I love you, and she goes, You're
the best mommy. She does. She'll just quietly whisper it
to herself and go on and on, I love you.
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Like made them dinner tonight and Mayven jumped up on
a chair and it was too far from the table.
So I got up and I I pushed the chair
and so she was closer to her bowl. And then
she's went, thank you daddy. In this one, it was
the sweetest thing I've ever heard, and too, I was like, oh, yeah,
that's Billy Madison. Yeah, thank you daddy. She does a
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lot of just like very endearing whispers. Lately She's like,
I love banana. Brandon has been doing a oh man
maybe and I'm sorry that I hurt you? Are you okay?
Can I make it feel better? And I was like,
who's this kid? I mean I had fights with him
this weekend to he was like he flipped out a
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couple of times where I was just like, hey, you
can't kick me. And then classic man, he like gets
flips out at the slightest bit of criticism and starts
just going into full tantrum because he doesn't like even
being told that people don't like to be killed. Classic man,
it is classic you. You love being kicked, You used
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to love being kicked. Don't act like you didn't say
you weren't saying kick me. I just feel like I'm
under attack here with you telling me I can't kick you.
I just I feel so attacked. Um Okay, I have
two things I need to share about food. One I
gave I gave bread a bowl of pasta. Our kids
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have been a real carbon kick Um. I was home
all day. I need to go to the grocery store,
but I was literally on a conference call, seven different
conference calls all day, but I couldn't get the grocery store.
I made some spaetti meatballs. I gave him the ball
and he goes and he goes, thanks Dady, And then
he goes, he turns around and trips and dumps the
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whole ball over out on the carpect they're they're at
this very annoying like food and drink age right now
where they think they're so good at getting drinks and
pouring drinks and carrying drinks around any which way they
want to walk. And it's just like you're bad at
pouring drinks. You shouldn't be trusted with a cartain of milk.
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You should have asked someone three ft taller than you
to handle that. Don't pour cocoanut water into a cup
on a counter that's two inches taller than you are.
And maybe if you decide to perform this feat of
strength for a person your size and balancing act, don't
try to fill the glass up to the tippity top
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when it's a glass for a person's size. Three sizes larger,
and then you take it to the living room and
put it in front of the television, take two SIPs,
and then leave it there for me to find twelve
hours later. Yeah, don't leave it sitting in the hot
sun when it's a perishable beverage. Um, we're going through
a lot of milk this week. Oh my god, the
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milk is all gone. I've been good though about shoving
them into the fridge every time I find them and
just being like, we will not waste milk. I tried.
I tried to explain waste to them this week, which
I think maybe they're starting to understand barely. I will
say I spilled the whole bowl. And I was proud
of both myself and Britt after that because the rage
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that exploded in me, because every time I hand them something,
I say, two hands, go slow, watch the bowl, and
I'm like, I'm being too nitpicky here, I'm to micromanagy
and I say, I didn't say it, and then he
skips and dumps it all out, and I went and
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as and then I literally said, Britt and I took
a deep breath, and he looked at me with big eyes,
and I said, it's Okay, let's clean it up. And
then brit really helps me clean up, not only like
they're really crap at helping the clean up, and he
did it and we cleaned up. And then my other
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food related thing is Naven was running around later playing
this character where she goes, I'm a cheese woman. Yeah,
and then Brent started going, Tina, is that you Tina
the cheese woman. I'm a cheese woman. Ah. We have
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a new character, Tina the cheese woman. Yeah. This has
become one of our rotting stock characters now, along with
what's the narwhale, Goofy under the apple who tells terrible
jokes and what's voice, I'm Goofy. Well Goofy then is
a friend. But and the apple does it with more
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like like, I told these stories, so it's my voice.
Him him trying to talk like this, but his intens
better than yours. I know you invented it, but his
interpretation is just actually brings it to a higher level.
Goo boy, I have a mustache with a more or
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long ease. He's like, so I tell stories at them
every night and they make up the details. But Goofy's
oar wall. He's magical when it except for one in
one way. Every time he says I have a mustache,
thousands of bats appear and everyone's like stop saying it,
and now I go, what did you say next? And
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Brince like, I have a mustache? So every story ends
with bats devouring the earth because goofy, then Wall keeps
saying I have a mustache. I'm just wondering if there's
a way to like alter the setup of where this
comes into our bedtime routine though, because when it comes
at the tail end of story, like reading books, where
they're very relaxed and paying attention and sort of laying down,
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and then it gets it turns into play acting, and
then when they want to do a story now when
you're doing lights out, and now they're like so amped
up right at the moment of bedtime, and they're like,
we're in character, we're talking to each other. I'm Horn
the Unicorn and they're just like chumping around in bed
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and you're Magic the Unicorn and her friend to me
last night a new character called Horn the Unicorn. I
like Sludgy the Blob and his best friends Speedy the Speedster.
So I'm just wondering if there's a well I told
you where that falls in the bedtime routine. Well, no,
I tell her I did this, And then I got
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him so amped up that I told him the story
about a little boy who was trying to write a
song for his mother. And I just told them the
most earnest, sweet story I've ever told. In the end,
he was like, I love you mom. She's like, and
I love my little boy. And they were like asleep.
M hmm. Okay, So I need to just talk more. Yeah,
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I take it over and make it sweet, you know what.
That's my advice to sell you out there in any situation.
Talk more and make it sweet. This next segment is
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called We Knows what They're Reading. It's where we talk
about what our kids are reading and what we're reading
to them. First of all, Britain can read leg He
really can sort of read. He can legit read. I
mean obviously he's mostly I mean I think he's kind
of doing what we're all doing, which is we eyeball
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the first and last letters of any word and we
sort of fill it in. You that tests or whatever.
If you I've seen this where if you write an
entire paragraph where every word has the correct first and
last letters, but every letter in between the first and
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littlest letters are in the wrong order. You can read
it as seamlessly as if it weren't out of Well,
that's what so much of our understanding of the world is,
just like filling in blanks. We have like a loose
interpretation of something, and we give ourselves a lot of
credit for knowing every deed. Oh my gosh, this it was.
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I've this came up so many times this week, this
exact idea of filling in the blanks, for better and
for worse. But yeah, there was there were words in
this note book he's never read before tonight, but he's
he's becoming a really good guess where you're like, he's
definitely getting the first letter of the word and sort
of making a good guess. Like he'll read something and
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you know it's partly rehearsed in his mind because he'll
drop like the hands or the the or something, you know,
like he's not he's read it before. He's obviously not
doing an exact reading tonight. There's some book we've never read.
Maybe you did read it, but there's a big word
buzz on it. He goes, buzz I was like, you've
never seen that word before, so he's putty piecing it together.
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So I I went to a flea market in town
on Sunday and I bought these new books for them
from this old woman who is setting up some there's
no charge. I'm just glad to be rid of them.
I wish. I feel like I really could have gotten
a better deal, but she so I got. I bought
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some books from her because I was looking at her
cards and I was like, oh, these are actually good books.
Like sometimes when you root through, like you stuff at
a flea market, you're like, well, this is all the
worst CDs you could find, and this was like she
had like classic books like you know, Berenstein Bears, Blueberries
for sale stuff where you're like, oh, this is stuff
I actually might like reorder online. So I got some
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books from her, but she she was trying to convinced
me to go to her home in New Rochelle, which
is next her to where we live, and like she
was like, I have more hardcovers and I was like,
I don't think so I'm good with these, and like
she was she was like, I'm a former educator, so
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I really do have good books. Come to my basis.
You see that my promise, I'll let you leave. She
was like she was going on at me the way
people do when they're like selling you stuff. But it
was just like she was like, I have like I
was an educator and I used to teach children to read,
and so these are not the books that were in
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the schools with the children or the daycare or like
she was like, these haven't been touched by the children.
These are the good books by hands. But she was like,
but these are good books because I know because I'm
an educator. And she was And then this other woman
came by, was walking through and started talking to me,
and she was like, you know, they have used books
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you can buy at the library in town. Why is
this woman so sexy? Well, it was just weird how
she was trying to talk me out of buying from
this other old woman has just like the kind of
old woman. She's just trying to start shi like why
are you interfering? Like who are you to try to
tell me? Like there's other places to my books? And
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I was like, webrary. Well, I was like, yeah, I've
seen the room at the library where they have used books.
But it seems kind of picked over a lot of
the time. Whatever, and she was just like and then
I swear she walked around the flea market and came
back to me and said some other thing. This is
a random woman at the flea market, just walking by
telling you not to buy the books here. Yeah, this
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is not a woman who's working at this stall. She's
just coming around to be like, you could get better
kids books other places. And then like this, she didn't
say it in those words. But then the woman who
I bought them from again was just really talking them
up and trying to get me to buy more books
from her. And it was just like, these are these
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are so intent. These are competing witches that are trying
to get you into their respective thing. And then I
bought these books for the kids, and then I realized
I'm probably very allergic to these books. And I stuck
them in the freezer for a couple of hours, and
I still think I'm pretty allergic to these books. And
I questioned whether any of this was worth my time.
But our kids are very excited about these books. Wow.
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That led up to exactly what I was going to
talk about, which was these books did you know that's
what I was going to talk about. Yeah, okay, perfect,
perfect set up. Then, so one of the books. But
as first of all, I saw Blue Blueberries for sale
and I got real emotional that book. There was a
lot of classic books in this bind that I was like,
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I would totally take this. But we already already went
out of my way to buy this book because it's
so etched in my memory of childhood, like they had
mouse Tails, and I was like, wow, like this is
a great fine but I've already bought mouse Tales because
it's a great book. I had never read it before
until you got it. Um. But so there's some barren
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Stain bears. It has always been barren Stain guys. There's
no Mandela effect, right, No, I don't think there is.
I think our childhood brains, like I just said, with brand,
we've been remembering the first and last letter of every
word and nothing more. Barrenstein. When you say barren Stain,
real fast, barren Stein bearrass, it sounds like Barnstein. There
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you go. Problem solved. The Internet. We're unwilling to accept
that our childhood brains only remember the sound and not
the actual letters. I had never looked at letters until
last year, I just I just looked at the I
just look at the image of the word. Until I
became a logo designer, never looked at a single letter.
Were Um. So we read The Barren Stain Bears and
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No Girls Allowed, and I gotta say I felt weird
about it about that book. Yeah, well, I'm not going
to read that book to them again because it just
puts the idea in their head that there should be
this weird I'm okay with throwing some of these books
out since I got them for like fifty cents of Peace.
But the one I read last night from The Barren
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See Bears that I felt was also problematic was about
them all trying to eat healthier and lose weight, and
I was like, I'm okay with them talking about healthy foods,
but the way it's constantly framed in the book is
just about poking it the Papa Bear and being like
you're too fat, and the doctor is like fat is bad,
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and there's just so much like messaging that I'm just like,
this is harmful and doesn't get to the heart of
what's actually unhealthy about eating pure sugar during the day,
Like it's just like explained to kids that the foods
that give you a stomach ache aren't good to be
eating constantly, you know what I mean? Like this, this
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is so much our childhood. This oh yeah, you know,
like no girls allowed, like so much of our childhood.
It's well intentioned and not but it actually that is
the shows like sort of in a certain periods of time.
You know, the book. The message of it is really positive.
In the end, it's like you shouldn't have these divides
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that this is not so. But there's a part in
the book it's this is where it gets like really bad.
Is there's a friend in the book where they've been
dieting for like I don't know months. The whole bear
family competes in like a five k or something. I mean,
let me finish, let me finish. So they do this race.
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They don't all win, but they're just happy that the
whole family completed and they get a trophy for being
the only family that all of them competed in this race.
After they've been dieting for months, Mom Mom Bears put
their sugary snacks into the freezer and they've been avoiding
sugar for weeks. At the end of that, Daddy Bear
or whatever his name is, says Papa Bear. He says,
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I want to reward us for doing all that, Why
don't we dig into this freezer. And the kids turned
to him and they hand him carrot sticks and they say,
this is what we've learned. And I just the messaging.
It makes me so angry because I'm like, this man
just did a race. Give him a great Papa Bears
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some ice cream, People eat sugar. We're human beings. We
need to get like there needs to be some indulgence
in our lives. I just that that can that should
not be the message at the end of the day.
It's like, no, no, no, no more joy for you.
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Papa Bear, were good bears. I don't know that I
feel as strongly as you do about this. It makes me, well, no,
it just makes me angry because I think this like
sort of purity culture we have around certain things is
like I think I experienced it more as a woman
than you do, but like it not only is unsustainable,
but it's actually harmful if you're trying to get people
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to have healthy habits, to expect them to subscribe to
this like puritanical joyless experience because it makes them more
likely to relapse into unhealthy habits. I think just that
I was just saying that thats just like zero. It's balanced.
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Everything is balanced. I will say, you ordered custard the
other night and I've been so gedy healthy, and you
know what, I feel great. I feel like a regular
Papa bear pre trying to get himself a ice cream
snack and you're like, I'm gonna get something. You want something.
I always had a panic attack. Well, I was really
(31:00):
proud of myself because I feel like I said a
firm boundary with you where you were like, can I
just have a couple of bites of years And I
was like, no, you're ordering custard or or you're not,
but you're not. I'm not fighting over this single serving
with you because you can't admit you want to eat
ice cream to oh, I'll admit I want to eat
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ice cream. No, but you. This is the thing where
it's like you make it seem like I'm responsible for
your indulgences because you can't self control, and it's like, okay,
I'm not. I'm not asking you to eat my food.
But for myself, what happened was I said, Okay, go
order it, and I jumped on the exercise bike and
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I biked until it arrived, and I burned almost as
many calories as the ice cream was and I felt
great afterwards, and I woke up the next morning skinnier
than I have been since two thousand twelve. Um, I'm
proud of myself because I did a little YouTube workout
last night of like a weight training thing, like a
(32:07):
body workout. And here in the living room. Yeah, here
in the living room, right here where we're recording now,
the yoga mat is still in the ground. I don't
know why I cleaned up this whole thing, but for
some reason, I didn't pick up the yoga mat. But
here's why I'm proud is because I hadn't worked out
in days in any shape or form, and I was like,
I need to do something. This feels like a economical
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use of my time to do strength training. And but
I also having not really worked out recently or done much,
I've just I really again, speaking of the balance we're
talking about, is I made sure not to push to
myself too hard despite what the video is telling me
to do, because the weights I have are heavier than
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they should be, and I in the past, I feel
like when I've done like squatting type stuff with weights,
i feel like it's really hurt my knees, which in
my family we have bad knees that are not designed
correctly for human behaviors. We really did our bloodline has
done a lot of good things, but not knees of
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good things, and a lot of different parts departments. So
when I was doing the workout, I could tell specifically
one knew was making like a creaking sound like it
always does, and I was just like, I know this
is hurting it, and I'm not going to do the
exercises as hard on this side. And I'm proud of
myself because at least now twenty four hours later, I'm
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not experiencing a knee injury, which sometimes I do have
like soreness. Well, I'm really proud of you for eating
the ice cream and not working too hard. Good work.
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The next segment is called Listeners Want to Know. It's
where we take questions and comments from you guys. What's
this segment called Listeners Want to Knows? You missed the
whole hook of the podcast. Nothing else matters exempletely. Sorry,
Please emails to me, tell me I'm bad, tell me
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how bad I am. I just want to acknowledge you
a few things. I got a few emails and notes,
mostly for people I know about last week's episode where
I barfed. You got a lot of emails about barfing.
Not a lot of emails, but people always going to
be like, did that really happen? I got at least
a couple of messages from people being like, whoa the
(34:41):
barf check? Bryant texted me, was that real? Was that
a bit? I said? That was real? It does seem
like bits. So much of our podcast seems like made up.
I mean, even our lives tales are just barkies of
the days. We're like, okay, we have a listener, phone
(35:03):
call voicemail. We haven't done voicemail, while, let's do one. Ready,
here we go. This is a Doug from a story
of Queen's New York. My wife and I, Vanessa, listened
to The Bods so High Beth, High Peter, and High
Wen was parenting pod. We listened to your latest episode
and you'd mentioned that there was a book that had
some problematic or troubling language regarding body parts, and my
(35:27):
wife and I have had a similar struggle with children's lists,
so before toddlers and and really young and where either
the book takes a fantastical approach to real life or
just has really horrendous writing and language. As a for instance,
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my sister in law gave us a really cute book,
objectively cute, I guess, called Janet the Planet. And I
have a massive issue with this book because it's sort
of suppose is presents a reality where there's a planet
that wants to be a planet named Janet. And so
now my three year old daughter keeps asking about the
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purple planet Janet, and I just have an extreme issue
with this, and so I kind of relate, and I
wanted to know how you guys handle gifts that are
clearly sort of against your own personal parenting philosophies. Are
just how you deal with this sort of juggling of
something that's not entirely insidious, but it isn't exactly the
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snuff with your parenting style. So we really enjoy the
pot I'll take my answer off the air, right. Cool. Wow,
that's a really interesting question. Um, how do you deal
with gifts? Well, I would say, especially with something as
small as a book. Like we're saying earlier, I think
it's really fine for books to just kind of mysteriously dishire. Yeah,
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like kids are not smart and they won't remember things,
Like they're very bad at finding things, you know what.
They're also really good at finding things. I mean, as
long as it's not like their favorite book or their
favorite thing, I think you're fine because they don't. I
think the thing about some of this, like bad media,
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these bad TV shows and books and things that are
made for kids out of some sort of weird I
don't know what whatever, however they're made there, I don't
think kids are that engaged in them because they're not
well made, you know what I mean, Like I was
just showing them the One of the books I found
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at the flea market was like some sort of guide
to the human body that it looked vaguely familiar from
my childhood, and it was like talking about bones, but
then it would get to a page that was like
a diagram of the bones, which our our kids are
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weirdly into the naming of things like the like the
dinosaur books we have. They're kind of weirdly obsessed with,
like trying to pronounce all the actual scientific names of
the dinosaur, which is kind of cool. So it gets
to a page where it's the bones, and then the
diagram just says like armbone, lower leg bone, armbone. Yeah.
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I was like I was getting I was actually angry
as someone who literally doesn't care about bones or science.
You you get angry when sometimes when we enjoy, like
identifying animals, you're like, no, I like animals. I get
annoyed at like boring science e facts that are just
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like immaterial. You're not a big periodic table lady. Huh,
I hate. I could not care less about the periodic table.
I know it means something to people who understand it better,
but in chemistry that was my favorite. I was great
at phizzy oology because it's like I understand what that
is and what it does and how it like how
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it functions in my life. You want it to be tangible.
I do. I like tangible facts. And so to get
to this page in the book that was like just
not the real names of the bones, I was like,
why are you wasting our time? Like my kid might
be three years old, but she's going to remember what
I say to her tonight while I'm reading this book.
And these kids are going to listen. This is what
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you want to tell her about the human body. This
is your arm bone. It's called the humorous No. But
it does make me angry because, like, how old is
this book? It's not that old. It can't be older
than the eighties. It's like we're too old. We're so
old remember the eighties. Um, yeah, there's kids somewhere. Since
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they're TV next door, we have to get used to
there being a functional living room there with a TV on. No,
those are real kids that are yelling right now. Audience.
I know you can't hear this, but this is on
a Monday night, on a Monday night, at ten o three,
there's children cheering. I think it's a documentary. Absolutely, it's not.
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It's that documentary. You know, kids laughs, the documentary. Your
imagination for TV shows and media that might include children
is not as fast as my imagination for whether children
would be awake next door after ten pm. That kind
of sentence was too complicated for me to follow. Um
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gifts that I've received that, I'm like, I'm not on
board with this. We had a babysitter give us a
like reason for the season. Jesus Christmas. Anyone who gives
you a gift that is seasonal in nature, their gift
is fully eligible to be immediately written off. If you
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get like, here's the kind of thing that I get.
That's a that's a that's a bold statement. Okay, keep
going there. Okay, here's like, if you give me a
mother of two who lives in a two bedroom apartment,
seasonal decorations and like dish towels and decorative things that
I know you grabbed at the Christmas tree shop in
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Massachusetts for one on sale. I'm not obligated to keep
that in my home for the next Well, you know
that person got you that they're not expecting you to
and they don't care. They just are really hoping you
might be wrong there. I think some of them are
expecting me too, and we'll ask about it and make
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sure are you using that mobile gas station fly swatter?
I got you? It's a good one, you know what. Okay.
So here's what's interesting. So women maybe are historically over
give gifts to the point of needlessnessness, but men don't
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give gifts as much traditionally. I could think of plenty
maybe maybe on average, I think it's less like women
and gifts and being thoughtful and thinking about that. Here's
what I wanted to say. Obviously, all people are different,
talk I just want to I just want to disclaimer
that I had sort of like a relative revelatory moment
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today because I was it was one of the many
days where the media I'm bombarded with throughout the day
is very negative in its representation of men as a whole.
And then I was I saw one of my friends,
he's been having a rough time since birthday. I wanted
to get him a gift, and then I remembered like, oh,
(42:57):
maybe I could like get my friends in on this.
And we were on an improv team together, and I
reached out to my female friend and I was like
asking her about it, and like obviously she's down because
she's a nice person and a woman. And then I
was like, you know what, I'm going to reach out
to the men in our former improv group and try
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to like loop them in on us, because, as I
said to my friend, I was like, you know, there,
they probably actually do want to help. They're just ment
so it would never occur to them to do it.
So I texted them and I was like, hey, I'm
doing this thing, like if you want to venmo me
or get in on like giving him a group gift
or something, blah blah blah. So they were totally on board,
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and I was like, it was kind of a nice
moment of restoring my faith and being like they do
want to help, they do care, because I just feel
like sometimes week to week, months a month, I feel
like the women I know are doing so much to
try to keep the world around them going in the
face of a lot of really bad things happening. Um,
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you know, this exact same thing happened to me this
week where somebody, a woman was said, Hey, we should
get a gift for this person another women and emailed
a bunch of us and I was like, yeah, I'll
sign the card, I'll vendo the thing, because but you know,
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you're right, I'm not the one to spearhead that I
think because I've had a lot of moments recently with
things in the news and thanks personally where I've been.
I've literally been trying to funnel money towards things that
are important to me and like resources, and and it's
very stressful because as one person, you can never do
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as much as you want to do, and so I
guess today it was a nice reminder of like, oh,
maybe I should include these men in my efforts, even
though historically they haven't been helpful or seemed emotionally involved
in this or you know what I mean. Like, it's
just mean, I think it's good. It's it's good. I mean,
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I'll say that this is the career you've chosen, what
you're your head space is in a place where you're
looking for the hypocrisy of the patriarchy all day long.
And uh yeah, but it's like I don't have to
look for it. It's pretty apparent, right, But you are
looking for it because that's your job. No, it's not
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that it's my job. I think like anyone existing in
the world who is a sensitive person right now, regardless
of gender, Like it's hard to exist without like going
through the day and being like, Okay, that person is
getting hurt, that person is getting hurt, that person, Like
there's just like a lot of things happening to people.
Were like we're in a stage with our media and
(45:49):
social media where we have to see it all the time,
but like our government and structures have not evolved to
meet the needs that we have to encounter. So I
don't like it's I don't think I'm looking for at all.
I just think a lot of people are like, wow,
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this is hard to witness right now. Sure, so there
is something extra great about that, like, oh, you know what,
let's see you can see the best in some people,
right Like it was nice to be like it was like,
you know, people, I haven't talked to you in a while,
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and I don't have a necessarily positive or negative interpretation
of them, like I just haven't seen them in a while,
and like, I guess it was nice to be reminded
of like yeah, yeah, there's like all these great people.
I think I've been having this realization in a lot
of different ways. And last year we were like, if
I really need support, there actually are a lot of
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nice people around me. It's just the way that we
consume the world right now, with social media and honestly
just the way the world is. I think the most
negative people are getting the most attention, you know what
I mean. I mean a hundred per said there's no
this is no hot take, but I'm but I'm I
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am dramatically off of the internet these days, and it
has a profound effect on my attitude towards human beings,
where I'm like, oh, people are great because the loudest
assholes take fill your brain, and your brain fills in
the gaps with everyone else also being like this, and
(47:39):
you feel like you're overwhelmed just getting that cloud away
for a while, you realize that like conscious like I
always get worried when this conversation veers into like, oh,
the Internet is terrible territory because like the Internet is
our world now, like you know what I mean, Like,
the Internet is part of our reality, and we can't
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just set it to terrible people, the same as we
can't let our government fall into their hands or so
many other things. It's like we have to consciously think
about how we're going to make it not so terrible. Yes,
that is true, And you have to balance that with
your own personal mental health. Yeah, that's true. Can you
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can't one person cannot save the whole thing. Yeah. And
if the harder you try, the more you are, you
risk actually being so intensely informed that you're completely blind
to a bunch of really obvious ships. And the Internet
can make you very smart, and it can make you
very stupid. And if you're so locked in that things
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become oversized and you think it's the whole world and
you're ignoring most of the world. Anyway, I guess the
sort of relates back to our kids, which we are
trying not to let them be on the internet her
phones too much. They're not a lot of touch they
of Hopefully if we continue to curate their um TV
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viewing and book reading they will. We're gonna throw out
no girls allowed, learn to enjoy the right things. Well,
our kids have also been watching a lot of UM
Wild Crats, which Brent loves. That shows great and he
never stops talking about animal facts and characteristics. Now he's like,
(49:29):
you ever seen a yetti crab in real life? They're
funny looking. Well, we went, I was told just before
we go past the Yeti crab. He goes the yetti crab.
They live in the the siminal zone. And I'm like,
are you trying to say the abysmal plane. No, no, no, Dad,
it's the seminal zone. Well, I took him to see
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my friends this weekend and like, well, we could be
talking about anything literally, and he will find a way
to be like, oh, you mean like a sock eyed
salmon and he'll he'll say things and covers the stock
eyed salmon. Yeah. Well he'll say things in conversation where
he'll start pretending to be an animal and he's like,
we lay our eggs before we die, and it's it's
just like out of context. It's so specific. Hi, mommy's friend,
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we lay our eggs before we die, and like, if
you think about it, you can trace what it's from.
But you're like, what why are you saying this right now?
The barrel fish can see out straight the top of
its head. They don't even look up. They can see
at the top of their head. That's what he told
me after you were screaming at Tina the cheese woman.
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I got to say, that's annoying. I think that's our
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new neighbor. There's a bang. Oh, it sounds like cartoon
characters like, oh, do we start? Do we start the podcast?
I guess we did. Our new neighbors are making some noise,
as opposed to our former neighbor, who was an elderly
(00:44):
woman who didn't ever make noise, who just very quietly
would walk out and we'd walk by, and she'd say,
I just have to say, your children are beautiful. After
quietly listened to us screaming at each other the day before.
I have to tell you that when you in your kitchen,
I can hear you, but it's delightful. They're loud, and
the best way your house was cooing. Maybe just clean
(01:07):
some of the lint out of your window. That's spring
laundry lint at my apartment. It's window opening season. Yes,
your dryer blows lint into my apartment, and it probably
has been for months and months. But I'm only saying
it now before I leave, because she was probably thinking
about the new people moving. She probably was. Yeah, she
(01:30):
was just such a nice woman. We have to we
have to get her address from her grandson and send
her housewarming Presidenters and Doris, who lives next door to us.
That's how I remembered. Anyway, she's gone. She's so sweet.
This building is being taken over by children and any
all the old people are moving out and welcome, so
(01:52):
we know parenting. I'm Beth Nell, I'm Peter mcderney, and
this is a late intro. Yeah, we just rolled right in.
We started to record it again. We just heard children's
voices through. Yeah, it was a TV. I don't know, no, no,
there's I cannot figure out the family structure of the
neighbors yet because one, I don't think they're there fully yet.
(02:13):
Well there, I've only seen the one nice dad and
I think I saw him with a two year old,
but I've heard older kids like nine. Well I think
they might have cousins or something nearby, because there was
visitors at one point. It was really loud one day
during the day, which I don't mind. Um, I will
(02:33):
never complain. I mean I never mind noise because no
one around here has ever up in the middle of
the night like we are are downst Our. Neighbors just
listen to us and they can't hear anything because of
our new bed. We're not gonna talk about that anymore.
We already have. Um, Beth, how is your weekend parenting? Um?
(02:58):
Pretty good? Uh? A lot of tantrums, a lot of
extreme tantruming from Maven, which unfortunately from Maven, I just
can't get into it with her the way I could
have Brita. Like, I feel bad for her because I
(03:20):
very much relate as the second child, But there's just
so much with her where I'm like, oh, you're going
to try to pull that. Good luck. Your brother did
that for a full year until we lost our minds
and realized we're not willing to put up with that anymore.
You know, Like it's just like she's just like she's
screwed in terms of like being indulged in her dramatic episodes.
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But she really made some attempts this week, some very
strong attempts. She's like, I'm three, and I will destroy you.
She's like, oh, really, so you had put you had
given her a new booster car seat because you wanted
to get rid of the old car seat, and I
had worried she's going to pull some ship like branded
(04:04):
when he got the booster seat, and she hasn't well
there's a big bang. What is there's definitely something maybe
they're hanging some stuff or something that there's a whole
new element to the pod. It's exciting you live next
to someone who's awake past nine pm, like we are
our wild lives. But so anyway, maybe through a tantrum
(04:27):
before school one morning this week when I was taking her,
which was like it was out of the norm for
her that I was taking her in the morning because
you usually do it, but you had to go film something.
So she didn't like that because she was like, well,
if you're here, mommy, how about we just don't go
to school and I stay home and try to cuddle
you for the next five hours. So she didn't want
(04:49):
to go to school. And I was like, unlike Brian,
where I would probably have tried to reason with him more,
I was like, I know, this is a three year
old thing that where you're drinking in your heels and
I'm just not going to play this game. And I
was just like, we're wrestling your shoes on, we're walking
out the door. You're going to scream the whole time.
And she did a pulsing screech that I think all
(05:10):
of our neighbors heard in every unit in every building
in our cul de Sac. Every everyone experienced that. You know,
my solution is when she does that, That's pretty much
what I did. I didn't run, but I was like,
we are moving this along. I'm not engaging with it.
So she screeched and then she got in the car
(05:30):
and now she has a new booster seat, which thankfully,
thankfully she has not tried to open under the seat belt.
Yeah she's never done that, but I know she's just
moments away from this. So she was trying to put
the window down, and then she decided to try to
open the door while we were driving, and we're only
like half a block away. So I was like, you know,
(05:51):
I wasn't you know, speeding along or anything. I wasn't
worried for her safety, but I was pissed and I
was like, I was like, oh, no, we're not. And
I was like I got out of the car, child
locked her door and was just like yelling at her
in front of like some man trying to go to
his service job or something. Um, and I was just like,
(06:13):
I'm not doing this. And so this is where it
was like so much better as a more experienced parent
where I was just like I don't I'm not doing this,
like I am really proud. Yeah that that's not been
your jam that like nope, yeah, and you know what,
you know what this pays off for the next time. Well,
(06:36):
that's what I think was happening. In my mind. I
was like, I don't like be a hardass now and
cause to try not to cause a scene in front
of people on the street. And then next thing, you know,
she does this every single day and it's a nightmare
I can never escape, you know, like, yeah, it's that thing.
It's like it's not the screaming, although if you when
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Bryn tried to open the car door while we're driving,
I stopped and I screamed at him because I was
like I want to scare you. But aside from that
that just like dispassionate, dig in your heels, forced the
shoes on, throw her over your shoulder, and run to
the car and just show her like you just you
won't win, so forget about. Then we got to daycare
(07:20):
and she was crying, like she still kind of shrieking,
and she like ran and hugged me and tried to
get me not to leave, and the women at daycare,
We're like, whoa Maven? And they were like, she's not
normally like this, like as if they wanted to inform me.
And I was like, I know, like this is like
it makes me look crazy, like as if when I
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take care of her, this is just what she's like.
But I'm like, she's not. She's just not used to
me taking her to daycare. So she decided to like
flip you know, a yeah, anytime off, it's harder for you.
But I think that's like you did it perfect. Like
you show them that a few more times and then
they're still gonna they stop trying to pull that ship. Yeah, um,
(08:05):
that's great. Everyone's just like, hey, maybe you're being a
little weird today. Huh she does that in bed? Yeah,
like we're ignoring you. She did. Okay, So this is
the other tantrum I have to talk about is so,
(08:26):
you know how I bought her some sale clothing from
Hannah Anderson, which is a very pricey clothing place for kids,
but the clothes are really high quality, so when you
get one, it really lasts for a long time. And
so I was at the mall and I spotted to
Hannah Anderson sale, and I impulsively bought Maven a long
sleeve dress and some nit tights which are you know,
(08:49):
like out of season or like last season whatever, so
they're way too warm for her to wear right now.
But you know, she sees a shiny new item of clothing,
she's going to be rying to put it on because
she loves to look nice. So well, we do not
all of this, Um you do, I do, but not
(09:10):
like mabn so she so I was like I told you.
I was like, I'm hiding this from her in the
closet because she's not gonna be able to resist. It's
way too sweaty. And then on the weekend they were
doing dress up and she looked in the closet and
found it and insisted on putting it on. And I
was like, this is gonna make you too hot, but
we can try it on. And then she was like, yeah, whatever,
(09:32):
I'm not hot. And then she's like sweating, and of
course she starts like raging out about something unrelated, and
then like you need to come down. Maybe we should
take off these clothes that are making you sweat and
turn into a monster person, and she's like, no, it's fine,
So it's fine. This is everything I do is exactly
how it should She's like, I look great. This is
how people are supposed to behave. And isn't that just
(09:55):
women's fashion right there? Like pain is fashion and beauty.
I uh so, I was like, if you keep acting
like this, I'm going to take your clip, your tights off,
and your clothes off. So she keeps ringing out. I
take off the hot tights that are making her sweat.
She's swearing a long sleep dress. I go in the
other room to let her calm down, which our kids
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seem to need lately in their manic state. Is like,
I'm just like trying. I'm trying to give you a
cooling off period if you will just be willing to
disengage for two seconds. So I go in the other room.
She appears to be calming down, but she also has
that sort of like evil thing in her eyes and
eyes like she's and so she calms down, but then
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she walks out and she wants a snack or something,
and I noticed that the backside of the dress she
trying on is soaking wet, and I'm like, you asshole,
you peed while you were laying in our bed, So
while she was calming down from the tantrum, she peeed
on her bed onto our comfort. Not typical at all,
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and we've talked about this in the past episode with
a listener who shared an angry peeing thing from their kids,
and we were like, thank God, our kids don't do that.
So she did it. She peeed on her bed in
her dress, and then she tried to play it off
like she didn't do anything. She's like, no, no, no,
let's just go get a snack. And I was like,
you're covering a pea. So again I'm in this like
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you're my second kid thing mode where I'm just like,
I'm not reasoning with you. You're an asshole to just
peet on my bed. So I take her clothes off
against her will. She wants to keep on her pea clothes.
I throw her in the bathtub. She's super angry that
she has to get pee washed off of her, and
then I wanted there start washing her our our bedding
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and then lay back down in bed. And then of course,
by this point, she's finally calmed down from the tantrum
to the point where she wants to cuddle up with
me and be comforted for her anger and her peeing
in my bed. So and you did it. I did
your good Mama. I held her and I was like,
you idiot. The record did not say out loud, asshole
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er idiot to our daughter. No, I didn't say any
of those things, but I said it in my mind.
And she on the flip side, classic three year old.
She's been so loving in the other moments recently. She
said I love you to me like three thousand times.
This morning death we were walking to the car to
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go to daycare and she goes, Daddy. I looked down,
and then she puts her head down and she just goes,
I love mommy. She said it to me just so
many times in the how she goes, I love you,
I love you, I love you, and she goes, You're
the best mommy. She does. She'll just quietly whisper it
to herself and go on and on, I love you.
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Like made them dinner tonight and Mayven jumped up on
a chair and it was too far from the table.
So I got up and I I pushed the chair
and so she was closer to her bowl. And then
she's went, thank you daddy. In this one, it was
the sweetest thing I've ever heard, and too, I was like, oh, yeah,
that's Billy Madison. Yeah, thank you daddy. She does a
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lot of just like very endearing whispers. Lately She's like,
I love banana. Brandon has been doing a oh man
maybe and I'm sorry that I hurt you? Are you okay?
Can I make it feel better? And I was like,
who's this kid? I mean I had fights with him
this weekend to he was like he flipped out a
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couple of times where I was just like, hey, you
can't kick me. And then classic man, he like gets
flips out at the slightest bit of criticism and starts
just going into full tantrum because he doesn't like even
being told that people don't like to be killed. Classic man,
it is classic you. You love being kicked, You used
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to love being kicked. Don't act like you didn't say
you weren't saying kick me. I just feel like I'm
under attack here with you telling me I can't kick you.
I just I feel so attacked. Um Okay, I have
two things I need to share about food. One I
gave I gave bread a bowl of pasta. Our kids
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have been a real carbon kick Um. I was home
all day. I need to go to the grocery store,
but I was literally on a conference call, seven different
conference calls all day, but I couldn't get the grocery store.
I made some spaetti meatballs. I gave him the ball
and he goes and he goes, thanks Dady, And then
he goes, he turns around and trips and dumps the
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whole ball over out on the carpect they're they're at
this very annoying like food and drink age right now
where they think they're so good at getting drinks and
pouring drinks and carrying drinks around any which way they
want to walk. And it's just like you're bad at
pouring drinks. You shouldn't be trusted with a cartain of milk.
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You should have asked someone three ft taller than you
to handle that. Don't pour cocoanut water into a cup
on a counter that's two inches taller than you are.
And maybe if you decide to perform this feat of
strength for a person your size and balancing act, don't
try to fill the glass up to the tippity top
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when it's a glass for a person's size. Three sizes larger,
and then you take it to the living room and
put it in front of the television, take two SIPs,
and then leave it there for me to find twelve
hours later. Yeah, don't leave it sitting in the hot
sun when it's a perishable beverage. Um, we're going through
a lot of milk this week. Oh my god, the
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milk is all gone. I've been good though about shoving
them into the fridge every time I find them and
just being like, we will not waste milk. I tried.
I tried to explain waste to them this week, which
I think maybe they're starting to understand barely. I will
say I spilled the whole bowl. And I was proud
of both myself and Britt after that because the rage
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that exploded in me, because every time I hand them something,
I say, two hands, go slow, watch the bowl, and
I'm like, I'm being too nitpicky here, I'm to micromanagy
and I say, I didn't say it, and then he
skips and dumps it all out, and I went and
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as and then I literally said, Britt and I took
a deep breath, and he looked at me with big eyes,
and I said, it's Okay, let's clean it up. And
then brit really helps me clean up, not only like
they're really crap at helping the clean up, and he
did it and we cleaned up. And then my other
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food related thing is Naven was running around later playing
this character where she goes, I'm a cheese woman. Yeah,
and then Brent started going, Tina, is that you Tina
the cheese woman. I'm a cheese woman. Ah. We have
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a new character, Tina the cheese woman. Yeah. This has
become one of our rotting stock characters now, along with
what's the narwhale, Goofy under the apple who tells terrible
jokes and what's voice, I'm Goofy. Well Goofy then is
a friend. But and the apple does it with more
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like like, I told these stories, so it's my voice.
Him him trying to talk like this, but his intens
better than yours. I know you invented it, but his
interpretation is just actually brings it to a higher level.
Goo boy, I have a mustache with a more or
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long ease. He's like, so I tell stories at them
every night and they make up the details. But Goofy's
oar wall. He's magical when it except for one in
one way. Every time he says I have a mustache,
thousands of bats appear and everyone's like stop saying it,
and now I go, what did you say next? And
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Brince like, I have a mustache? So every story ends
with bats devouring the earth because goofy, then Wall keeps
saying I have a mustache. I'm just wondering if there's
a way to like alter the setup of where this
comes into our bedtime routine though, because when it comes
at the tail end of story, like reading books, where
they're very relaxed and paying attention and sort of laying down,
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and then it gets it turns into play acting, and
then when they want to do a story now when
you're doing lights out, and now they're like so amped
up right at the moment of bedtime, and they're like,
we're in character, we're talking to each other. I'm Horn
the Unicorn and they're just like chumping around in bed
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and you're Magic the Unicorn and her friend to me
last night a new character called Horn the Unicorn. I
like Sludgy the Blob and his best friends Speedy the Speedster.
So I'm just wondering if there's a well I told
you where that falls in the bedtime routine. Well, no,
I tell her I did this, And then I got
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him so amped up that I told him the story
about a little boy who was trying to write a
song for his mother. And I just told them the
most earnest, sweet story I've ever told. In the end,
he was like, I love you mom. She's like, and
I love my little boy. And they were like asleep.
M hmm. Okay, So I need to just talk more. Yeah,
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I take it over and make it sweet, you know what.
That's my advice to sell you out there in any situation.
Talk more and make it sweet. This next segment is
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called We Knows what They're Reading. It's where we talk
about what our kids are reading and what we're reading
to them. First of all, Britain can read leg He
really can sort of read. He can legit read. I
mean obviously he's mostly I mean I think he's kind
of doing what we're all doing, which is we eyeball
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the first and last letters of any word and we
sort of fill it in. You that tests or whatever.
If you I've seen this where if you write an
entire paragraph where every word has the correct first and
last letters, but every letter in between the first and
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littlest letters are in the wrong order. You can read
it as seamlessly as if it weren't out of Well,
that's what so much of our understanding of the world is,
just like filling in blanks. We have like a loose
interpretation of something, and we give ourselves a lot of
credit for knowing every deed. Oh my gosh, this it was.
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I've this came up so many times this week, this
exact idea of filling in the blanks, for better and
for worse. But yeah, there was there were words in
this note book he's never read before tonight, but he's
he's becoming a really good guess where you're like, he's
definitely getting the first letter of the word and sort
of making a good guess. Like he'll read something and
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you know it's partly rehearsed in his mind because he'll
drop like the hands or the the or something, you know,
like he's not he's read it before. He's obviously not
doing an exact reading tonight. There's some book we've never read.
Maybe you did read it, but there's a big word
buzz on it. He goes, buzz I was like, you've
never seen that word before, so he's putty piecing it together.
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So I I went to a flea market in town
on Sunday and I bought these new books for them
from this old woman who is setting up some there's
no charge. I'm just glad to be rid of them.
I wish. I feel like I really could have gotten
a better deal, but she so I got. I bought
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some books from her because I was looking at her
cards and I was like, oh, these are actually good books.
Like sometimes when you root through, like you stuff at
a flea market, you're like, well, this is all the
worst CDs you could find, and this was like she
had like classic books like you know, Berenstein Bears, Blueberries
for sale stuff where you're like, oh, this is stuff
I actually might like reorder online. So I got some
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books from her, but she she was trying to convinced
me to go to her home in New Rochelle, which
is next her to where we live, and like she
was like, I have more hardcovers and I was like,
I don't think so I'm good with these, and like
she was she was like, I'm a former educator, so
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I really do have good books. Come to my basis.
You see that my promise, I'll let you leave. She
was like she was going on at me the way
people do when they're like selling you stuff. But it
was just like she was like, I have like I
was an educator and I used to teach children to read,
and so these are not the books that were in
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the schools with the children or the daycare or like
she was like, these haven't been touched by the children.
These are the good books by hands. But she was like,
but these are good books because I know because I'm
an educator. And she was And then this other woman
came by, was walking through and started talking to me,
and she was like, you know, they have used books
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you can buy at the library in town. Why is
this woman so sexy? Well, it was just weird how
she was trying to talk me out of buying from
this other old woman has just like the kind of
old woman. She's just trying to start shi like why
are you interfering? Like who are you to try to
tell me? Like there's other places to my books? And
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I was like, webrary. Well, I was like, yeah, I've
seen the room at the library where they have used books.
But it seems kind of picked over a lot of
the time. Whatever, and she was just like and then
I swear she walked around the flea market and came
back to me and said some other thing. This is
a random woman at the flea market, just walking by
telling you not to buy the books here. Yeah, this
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is not a woman who's working at this stall. She's
just coming around to be like, you could get better
kids books other places. And then like this, she didn't
say it in those words. But then the woman who
I bought them from again was just really talking them
up and trying to get me to buy more books
from her. And it was just like, these are these
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are so intent. These are competing witches that are trying
to get you into their respective thing. And then I
bought these books for the kids, and then I realized
I'm probably very allergic to these books. And I stuck
them in the freezer for a couple of hours, and
I still think I'm pretty allergic to these books. And
I questioned whether any of this was worth my time.
But our kids are very excited about these books. Wow.
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That led up to exactly what I was going to
talk about, which was these books did you know that's
what I was going to talk about. Yeah, okay, perfect,
perfect set up. Then, so one of the books. But
as first of all, I saw Blue Blueberries for sale
and I got real emotional that book. There was a
lot of classic books in this bind that I was like,
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I would totally take this. But we already already went
out of my way to buy this book because it's
so etched in my memory of childhood, like they had
mouse Tails, and I was like, wow, like this is
a great fine but I've already bought mouse Tales because
it's a great book. I had never read it before
until you got it. Um. But so there's some barren
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Stain bears. It has always been barren Stain guys. There's
no Mandela effect, right, No, I don't think there is.
I think our childhood brains, like I just said, with brand,
we've been remembering the first and last letter of every
word and nothing more. Barrenstein. When you say barren Stain,
real fast, barren Stein bearrass, it sounds like Barnstein. There
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you go. Problem solved. The Internet. We're unwilling to accept
that our childhood brains only remember the sound and not
the actual letters. I had never looked at letters until
last year, I just I just looked at the I
just look at the image of the word. Until I
became a logo designer, never looked at a single letter.
Were Um. So we read The Barren Stain Bears and
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No Girls Allowed, and I gotta say I felt weird
about it about that book. Yeah, well, I'm not going
to read that book to them again because it just
puts the idea in their head that there should be
this weird I'm okay with throwing some of these books
out since I got them for like fifty cents of Peace.
But the one I read last night from The Barren
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See Bears that I felt was also problematic was about
them all trying to eat healthier and lose weight, and
I was like, I'm okay with them talking about healthy foods,
but the way it's constantly framed in the book is
just about poking it the Papa Bear and being like
you're too fat, and the doctor is like fat is bad,
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and there's just so much like messaging that I'm just like,
this is harmful and doesn't get to the heart of
what's actually unhealthy about eating pure sugar during the day,
Like it's just like explained to kids that the foods
that give you a stomach ache aren't good to be
eating constantly, you know what I mean? Like this, this
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is so much our childhood. This oh yeah, you know,
like no girls allowed, like so much of our childhood.
It's well intentioned and not but it actually that is
the shows like sort of in a certain periods of time.
You know, the book. The message of it is really positive.
In the end, it's like you shouldn't have these divides
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that this is not so. But there's a part in
the book it's this is where it gets like really bad.
Is there's a friend in the book where they've been
dieting for like I don't know months. The whole bear
family competes in like a five k or something. I mean,
let me finish, let me finish. So they do this race.
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They don't all win, but they're just happy that the
whole family completed and they get a trophy for being
the only family that all of them competed in this race.
After they've been dieting for months, Mom Mom Bears put
their sugary snacks into the freezer and they've been avoiding
sugar for weeks. At the end of that, Daddy Bear
or whatever his name is, says Papa Bear. He says,
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I want to reward us for doing all that, Why
don't we dig into this freezer. And the kids turned
to him and they hand him carrot sticks and they say,
this is what we've learned. And I just the messaging.
It makes me so angry because I'm like, this man
just did a race. Give him a great Papa Bears
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some ice cream, People eat sugar. We're human beings. We
need to get like there needs to be some indulgence
in our lives. I just that that can that should
not be the message at the end of the day.
It's like, no, no, no, no more joy for you.
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Papa Bear, were good bears. I don't know that I
feel as strongly as you do about this. It makes me, well, no,
it just makes me angry because I think this like
sort of purity culture we have around certain things is
like I think I experienced it more as a woman
than you do, but like it not only is unsustainable,
but it's actually harmful if you're trying to get people
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to have healthy habits, to expect them to subscribe to
this like puritanical joyless experience because it makes them more
likely to relapse into unhealthy habits. I think just that
I was just saying that thats just like zero. It's balanced.
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Everything is balanced. I will say, you ordered custard the
other night and I've been so gedy healthy, and you
know what, I feel great. I feel like a regular
Papa bear pre trying to get himself a ice cream
snack and you're like, I'm gonna get something. You want something.
I always had a panic attack. Well, I was really
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proud of myself because I feel like I said a
firm boundary with you where you were like, can I
just have a couple of bites of years And I
was like, no, you're ordering custard or or you're not,
but you're not. I'm not fighting over this single serving
with you because you can't admit you want to eat
ice cream to oh, I'll admit I want to eat
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ice cream. No, but you. This is the thing where
it's like you make it seem like I'm responsible for
your indulgences because you can't self control, and it's like, okay,
I'm not. I'm not asking you to eat my food.
But for myself, what happened was I said, Okay, go
order it, and I jumped on the exercise bike and
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I biked until it arrived, and I burned almost as
many calories as the ice cream was and I felt
great afterwards, and I woke up the next morning skinnier
than I have been since two thousand twelve. Um, I'm
proud of myself because I did a little YouTube workout
last night of like a weight training thing, like a
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body workout. And here in the living room. Yeah, here
in the living room, right here where we're recording now,
the yoga mat is still in the ground. I don't
know why I cleaned up this whole thing, but for
some reason, I didn't pick up the yoga mat. But
here's why I'm proud is because I hadn't worked out
in days in any shape or form, and I was like,
I need to do something. This feels like a economical
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use of my time to do strength training. And but
I also having not really worked out recently or done much,
I've just I really again, speaking of the balance we're
talking about, is I made sure not to push to
myself too hard despite what the video is telling me
to do, because the weights I have are heavier than
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they should be, and I in the past, I feel
like when I've done like squatting type stuff with weights,
i feel like it's really hurt my knees, which in
my family we have bad knees that are not designed
correctly for human behaviors. We really did our bloodline has
done a lot of good things, but not knees of
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good things, and a lot of different parts departments. So
when I was doing the workout, I could tell specifically
one knew was making like a creaking sound like it
always does, and I was just like, I know this
is hurting it, and I'm not going to do the
exercises as hard on this side. And I'm proud of
myself because at least now twenty four hours later, I'm
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not experiencing a knee injury, which sometimes I do have
like soreness. Well, I'm really proud of you for eating
the ice cream and not working too hard. Good work.
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The next segment is called Listeners Want to Know. It's
where we take questions and comments from you guys. What's
this segment called Listeners Want to Knows? You missed the
whole hook of the podcast. Nothing else matters exempletely. Sorry,
Please emails to me, tell me I'm bad, tell me
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how bad I am. I just want to acknowledge you
a few things. I got a few emails and notes,
mostly for people I know about last week's episode where
I barfed. You got a lot of emails about barfing.
Not a lot of emails, but people always going to
be like, did that really happen? I got at least
a couple of messages from people being like, whoa the
(34:41):
barf check? Bryant texted me, was that real? Was that
a bit? I said? That was real? It does seem
like bits. So much of our podcast seems like made up.
I mean, even our lives tales are just barkies of
the days. We're like, okay, we have a listener, phone
(35:03):
call voicemail. We haven't done voicemail, while, let's do one. Ready,
here we go. This is a Doug from a story
of Queen's New York. My wife and I, Vanessa, listened
to The Bods so High Beth, High Peter, and High
Wen was parenting pod. We listened to your latest episode
and you'd mentioned that there was a book that had
some problematic or troubling language regarding body parts, and my
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wife and I have had a similar struggle with children's lists,
so before toddlers and and really young and where either
the book takes a fantastical approach to real life or
just has really horrendous writing and language. As a for instance,
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my sister in law gave us a really cute book,
objectively cute, I guess, called Janet the Planet. And I
have a massive issue with this book because it's sort
of suppose is presents a reality where there's a planet
that wants to be a planet named Janet. And so
now my three year old daughter keeps asking about the
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purple planet Janet, and I just have an extreme issue
with this, and so I kind of relate, and I
wanted to know how you guys handle gifts that are
clearly sort of against your own personal parenting philosophies. Are
just how you deal with this sort of juggling of
something that's not entirely insidious, but it isn't exactly the
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snuff with your parenting style. So we really enjoy the
pot I'll take my answer off the air, right. Cool. Wow,
that's a really interesting question. Um, how do you deal
with gifts? Well, I would say, especially with something as
small as a book. Like we're saying earlier, I think
it's really fine for books to just kind of mysteriously dishire. Yeah,
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like kids are not smart and they won't remember things,
Like they're very bad at finding things, you know what.
They're also really good at finding things. I mean, as
long as it's not like their favorite book or their
favorite thing, I think you're fine because they don't. I
think the thing about some of this, like bad media,
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these bad TV shows and books and things that are
made for kids out of some sort of weird I
don't know what whatever, however they're made there, I don't
think kids are that engaged in them because they're not
well made, you know what I mean, Like I was
just showing them the One of the books I found
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at the flea market was like some sort of guide
to the human body that it looked vaguely familiar from
my childhood, and it was like talking about bones, but
then it would get to a page that was like
a diagram of the bones, which our our kids are
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weirdly into the naming of things like the like the
dinosaur books we have. They're kind of weirdly obsessed with,
like trying to pronounce all the actual scientific names of
the dinosaur, which is kind of cool. So it gets
to a page where it's the bones, and then the
diagram just says like armbone, lower leg bone, armbone. Yeah.
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I was like I was getting I was actually angry
as someone who literally doesn't care about bones or science.
You you get angry when sometimes when we enjoy, like
identifying animals, you're like, no, I like animals. I get
annoyed at like boring science e facts that are just
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like immaterial. You're not a big periodic table lady. Huh,
I hate. I could not care less about the periodic table.
I know it means something to people who understand it better,
but in chemistry that was my favorite. I was great
at phizzy oology because it's like I understand what that
is and what it does and how it like how
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it functions in my life. You want it to be tangible.
I do. I like tangible facts. And so to get
to this page in the book that was like just
not the real names of the bones, I was like,
why are you wasting our time? Like my kid might
be three years old, but she's going to remember what
I say to her tonight while I'm reading this book.
And these kids are going to listen. This is what
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you want to tell her about the human body. This
is your arm bone. It's called the humorous No. But
it does make me angry because, like, how old is
this book? It's not that old. It can't be older
than the eighties. It's like we're too old. We're so
old remember the eighties. Um, yeah, there's kids somewhere. Since
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they're TV next door, we have to get used to
there being a functional living room there with a TV on. No,
those are real kids that are yelling right now. Audience.
I know you can't hear this, but this is on
a Monday night, on a Monday night, at ten o three,
there's children cheering. I think it's a documentary. Absolutely, it's not.
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It's that documentary. You know, kids laughs, the documentary. Your
imagination for TV shows and media that might include children
is not as fast as my imagination for whether children
would be awake next door after ten pm. That kind
of sentence was too complicated for me to follow. Um
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gifts that I've received that, I'm like, I'm not on
board with this. We had a babysitter give us a
like reason for the season. Jesus Christmas. Anyone who gives
you a gift that is seasonal in nature, their gift
is fully eligible to be immediately written off. If you
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get like, here's the kind of thing that I get.
That's a that's a that's a bold statement. Okay, keep
going there. Okay, here's like, if you give me a
mother of two who lives in a two bedroom apartment,
seasonal decorations and like dish towels and decorative things that
I know you grabbed at the Christmas tree shop in
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Massachusetts for one on sale. I'm not obligated to keep
that in my home for the next Well, you know
that person got you that they're not expecting you to
and they don't care. They just are really hoping you
might be wrong there. I think some of them are
expecting me too, and we'll ask about it and make
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sure are you using that mobile gas station fly swatter?
I got you? It's a good one, you know what. Okay.
So here's what's interesting. So women maybe are historically over
give gifts to the point of needlessnessness, but men don't
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give gifts as much traditionally. I could think of plenty
maybe maybe on average, I think it's less like women
and gifts and being thoughtful and thinking about that. Here's
what I wanted to say. Obviously, all people are different,
talk I just want to I just want to disclaimer
that I had sort of like a relative revelatory moment
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today because I was it was one of the many
days where the media I'm bombarded with throughout the day
is very negative in its representation of men as a whole.
And then I was I saw one of my friends,
he's been having a rough time since birthday. I wanted
to get him a gift, and then I remembered like, oh,
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maybe I could like get my friends in on this.
And we were on an improv team together, and I
reached out to my female friend and I was like
asking her about it, and like obviously she's down because
she's a nice person and a woman. And then I
was like, you know what, I'm going to reach out
to the men in our former improv group and try
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to like loop them in on us, because, as I
said to my friend, I was like, you know, there,
they probably actually do want to help. They're just ment
so it would never occur to them to do it.
So I texted them and I was like, hey, I'm
doing this thing, like if you want to venmo me
or get in on like giving him a group gift
or something, blah blah blah. So they were totally on board,
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and I was like, it was kind of a nice
moment of restoring my faith and being like they do
want to help, they do care, because I just feel
like sometimes week to week, months a month, I feel
like the women I know are doing so much to
try to keep the world around them going in the
face of a lot of really bad things happening. Um,
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you know, this exact same thing happened to me this
week where somebody, a woman was said, Hey, we should
get a gift for this person another women and emailed
a bunch of us and I was like, yeah, I'll
sign the card, I'll vendo the thing, because but you know,
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you're right, I'm not the one to spearhead that I
think because I've had a lot of moments recently with
things in the news and thanks personally where I've been.
I've literally been trying to funnel money towards things that
are important to me and like resources, and and it's
very stressful because as one person, you can never do
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as much as you want to do, and so I
guess today it was a nice reminder of like, oh,
maybe I should include these men in my efforts, even
though historically they haven't been helpful or seemed emotionally involved
in this or you know what I mean. Like, it's
just mean, I think it's good. It's it's good. I mean,
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I'll say that this is the career you've chosen, what
you're your head space is in a place where you're
looking for the hypocrisy of the patriarchy all day long.
And uh yeah, but it's like I don't have to
look for it. It's pretty apparent, right, But you are
looking for it because that's your job. No, it's not
(45:28):
that it's my job. I think like anyone existing in
the world who is a sensitive person right now, regardless
of gender, Like it's hard to exist without like going
through the day and being like, Okay, that person is
getting hurt, that person is getting hurt, that person, Like
there's just like a lot of things happening to people.
Were like we're in a stage with our media and
(45:49):
social media where we have to see it all the time,
but like our government and structures have not evolved to
meet the needs that we have to encounter. So I
don't like it's I don't think I'm looking for at all.
I just think a lot of people are like, wow,
(46:10):
this is hard to witness right now. Sure, so there
is something extra great about that, like, oh, you know what,
let's see you can see the best in some people,
right Like it was nice to be like it was like,
you know, people, I haven't talked to you in a while,
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and I don't have a necessarily positive or negative interpretation
of them, like I just haven't seen them in a while,
and like, I guess it was nice to be reminded
of like yeah, yeah, there's like all these great people.
I think I've been having this realization in a lot
of different ways. And last year we were like, if
I really need support, there actually are a lot of
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nice people around me. It's just the way that we
consume the world right now, with social media and honestly
just the way the world is. I think the most
negative people are getting the most attention, you know what
I mean. I mean a hundred per said there's no
this is no hot take, but I'm but I'm I
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am dramatically off of the internet these days, and it
has a profound effect on my attitude towards human beings,
where I'm like, oh, people are great because the loudest
assholes take fill your brain, and your brain fills in
the gaps with everyone else also being like this, and
(47:39):
you feel like you're overwhelmed just getting that cloud away
for a while, you realize that like conscious like I
always get worried when this conversation veers into like, oh,
the Internet is terrible territory because like the Internet is
our world now, like you know what I mean, Like,
the Internet is part of our reality, and we can't
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just set it to terrible people, the same as we
can't let our government fall into their hands or so
many other things. It's like we have to consciously think
about how we're going to make it not so terrible. Yes,
that is true, And you have to balance that with
your own personal mental health. Yeah, that's true. Can you
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can't one person cannot save the whole thing. Yeah. And
if the harder you try, the more you are, you
risk actually being so intensely informed that you're completely blind
to a bunch of really obvious ships. And the Internet
can make you very smart, and it can make you
very stupid. And if you're so locked in that things
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become oversized and you think it's the whole world and
you're ignoring most of the world. Anyway, I guess the
sort of relates back to our kids, which we are
trying not to let them be on the internet her
phones too much. They're not a lot of touch they
of Hopefully if we continue to curate their um TV
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viewing and book reading they will. We're gonna throw out
no girls allowed, learn to enjoy the right things. Well,
our kids have also been watching a lot of UM
Wild Crats, which Brent loves. That shows great and he
never stops talking about animal facts and characteristics. Now he's like,
(49:29):
you ever seen a yetti crab in real life? They're
funny looking. Well, we went, I was told just before
we go past the Yeti crab. He goes the yetti crab.
They live in the the siminal zone. And I'm like,
are you trying to say the abysmal plane. No, no, no, Dad,
it's the seminal zone. Well, I took him to see
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my friends this weekend and like, well, we could be
talking about anything literally, and he will find a way
to be like, oh, you mean like a sock eyed
salmon and he'll he'll say things and covers the stock
eyed salmon. Yeah. Well he'll say things in conversation where
he'll start pretending to be an animal and he's like,
we lay our eggs before we die, and it's it's
just like out of context. It's so specific. Hi, mommy's friend,
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we lay our eggs before we die, and like, if
you think about it, you can trace what it's from.
But you're like, what why are you saying this right now?
The barrel fish can see out straight the top of
its head. They don't even look up. They can see
at the top of their head. That's what he told
me after you were screaming at Tina the cheese woman.
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