Steve-O | Jackass, Sobriety and the Death Sentence (RE-RELEASE) - Talking to Death with Payne Lindsey

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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello, this is Talking to Death. I'm your host, Payne Lindsay.
If you're unfamiliar with some of.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
My other work, I've been a true crime podcaster since
around twenty sixteen. If you're into the true crime thing,
you might know Up and Vanished or Atlanta Monster. If
you're into the weirder shit paranormal, I have a show
called Radio Rental and High Strange about UFOs and really

(00:55):
I've been an unofficial investigative journalist for about seven years
and I've had the chance to go all over the place.
I've met hundreds of people from all different walks of life,
and I've always wanted to do a show where I
could just pull the curtain back a little bit and

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talk about some of these experiences and share some of
the really cool, inspiring people that I've been able to
meet throughout my career and hopefully will continue to meet
as different as we all are, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
More apparent than ever.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It seems like sometimes I've learned that there are really
more similarities between us than anything else. And even if
I don't agree with you, there's a commonality that I
think that we all have in some way, shape or
form that feels good to share and connect with. So
in this show, I'm going to simply talk with people

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that I know or I look up to, or just
responded to one of my dms because I'm a fan
of ars, and we're just gonna shoot the shit. We're
gonna talk you to death like that pun Mike is
that it's pretty good, right.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I think you miss an opportunity. Could have been talking
to pain.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, that's that's horrible. That's uh.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
See, this is Mike, by the way. He'll be here
sometimes most of the time. Actually, Mike is my best friend.
He is usually somewhere behind the scenes on anything that
I'm doing, whether it's Up and Vanished or this show,
and he'll be in the room every time that I'm
talking to a guest. So when my ADHD brain kicks

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in and I forgot everything we're doing today, He's the
guy who will say, hey, like remember like.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
This is what they said.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh yeah, so I don't seem like an asshole. But yeah,
that's Mike. He might say something, he might never say something.
Hopefully he never says anything. That was your time to
say something. But well it's for the best if I do.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, all right, but.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, this is talking to death and I'm exed. Decided
to just share some candid interviews with people that I
know and maybe we all learned something. Maybe it's just
a good time. Maybe you hate this and you're never
listening to this shit ever. Again, that's okay, because I
at least got you right here. Today's guest is someone

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who I grew up watching on TV.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
His name is Steve O.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
If you don't know who STEVEO is, there was a
very popular show on MTV back in the day called Jackass.
They since made several movies that were in theaters. It's
a huge franchise. It's a bunch of guys doing wild,
crazy shit franks that are funny, gross, absurd, you name it.

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But I grew up watching this show and I remember
when my grandpa gave me a VHS camera for Christmas
one year and the first thing I did was start
filming stuff inspired by Jackass. They had this iconic warning
in the beginning of every episode that said something like, warning,
you know, these.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Are trained professionals, don't try this at home.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
First thing we did was absolutely try this at home,
and not to their degree. But you know what could
we get away with as a sixth grader seventh grader
that we thought was funny And we played back to
our parents and they said, maybe we should have never
got paid that camera. Right, This is a guy who
always cracked me up watching his stunts, watching his movies,
a guy who's really kind of known for being wild

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and crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And I'd never met STEVEO in person until recently during
this interview, and I was really blown away by how
sincere and candid he was with us about his life,
his mental health, you know, his goals, how he got here,
how he views this, just everything that you would think
would be a deeper subject that.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
May not be in his wheelhouse.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
He proved all of us wrong on that, and I
thought he was a really genuinely good person. And I
learned a lot about just you know, what makes Steve
otick and even found some similarities in myself, not on
the wild pranks tip, but just sort of the risk
taking that he has and this sort of innate desire

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to create and keep going. It's just kind of part
of his being which I definitely could relate to. I
highly suggest that you watch the video version of this too,
if you're not already watching it on YouTube. We'll be
posting the full episodes of this show on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
The easiest way to get to it is just.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Go to Talking to Death podcast dot com and that'll
link you right to the episodes. If you want to
watch clips and more behind the scenes stuff, you can
go to the Instagram which is simply Talking to Death
and the TikTok Talking to Death podcasts, which I hate
that these are all different, but there is someone who
is just camped out on the Talking to Death TikTok account.

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The two followers are me and one of my other
show's accounts. I can't message them because we're not friends.
It's not as sexy, but you know, I'm trying to
get the user name. It's a it's a small gripe.
This is the kind of shy you don't realize happens
behind the scenes. But yeah, I'm going to talk you
to death metaphorically. I hope you don't die of boredom.

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If you do, at least finish the first episode and
then die, because I think it's worth watching to the
end because it was Steve O.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I wanted to do something a little crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
You know, crazy for me, you know, so we had
this idea on the plane flying to LA you know what,
could we do some sort of stunt or something that,
you know, maybe he'll bite on at the end of
the episode, something fun and whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
We had an idea.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'm not going to spoil it for you yet because
I don't want to ruin that part of the episode.
But if you watch to the very end, you'll see
Steve O complete a stunt for us, and I think
it's totally worth it, and there is permanent evidence of
what happened. At the end of every episode, I'll do
some post thoughts just like this right here, where I'll,
you know, either explain more about what happened, or give

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you my two cents, or just say something done before
I tell you to go follow our social media accounts
or something. But without further ado, this is episode one
of Talking to Death and our guest is Steve O.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm a true crime guy. Like all I watch on YouTube,
I mean my YouTube feed.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Is just like, all right, what's it fool with? Give
me an example, interrogation rare. Are you watched like the
killers being interrogated by the cops and the interrogation they're
pretty good? Yeah, mind game stuff going on?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, I mean basically the story of murder cases and
like with with with emphasis on the you know, the
suspect in the interrogation room like being you know, grilled
with the read technique and yeah, like I just you know,
I'm basically like true crime murder documentaries on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Why do you like that stuff?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean, I'm just like just fascinated. I think it's
the stakes of it.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's just such a yeah. Does it get much higher
than this? Right?

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah? Such I stakes.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
And every time I talk about this, I always want
to shout out the gold standard on YouTube for this
crime and crime and punishment genre. It's called j CS
with standards. The one you watch, Yeah, that is the
gold standard.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
That's the best.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
He gets all the tape to right, he gets all that,
it seems smiling ya. He showed me that one time.
He's watched all that is.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Read single video on JCS Criminal psych Coology. That's the
actual j CS Criminal Psychology.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
It's it's the best channel.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Do you know what j c S stands for?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Jim can't swim.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So random before it got popular, He's like that will work.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I mean, dude, there are channels that that just rake
in millions of views because they they call their videos
j CS inspired. Really just like a whole all genres
is called j CS inspired. That good, okay, and and
the videos are just so precious, few and far between.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
You know, I don't I just don't understand it.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
But like I'll send out like mass email or as
mass text threats.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
New j CS video all caps expl you know, I've
I've seen a tweet.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know, there's been a I mean, it's not a
channel that it makes any sense to collab with, right,
you did, because they don't do interviews, you know, like
I'm not a murderer, and.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
You know, there's this profound.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Respect and and there was some some profound appreciation expressed.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
I decided to leave that. And then there's there's after
j C has.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
There really are just uh just sort of you know,
kind of distant. You know, filling out the top ten.
I would say stay Awake is really good. Stead Awake
channel all caps, one word stay awake.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I get excited for a wake upload.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, I think. So there's one called Explore with Us
or something that one's good.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Not always like like not not batting a thousand, but
man e wu blew my mind.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
The other night they that channel.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
And here's the thing, too, is that I don't have
like the attention span for like really long YouTube videos,
like I like my murders like twenty minutes and I'm out,
you know, maybe twenty five, but like you know, if
you can't pack a murder into twenty five doing it.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Wrong, you know, then I'm out.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
But when you watch YouTube on through the TV set,
you know, like actually like then it auto plays without
any kind of a timecode.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
You don't see the thumbnail.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So you forget what how much time is passing? Right?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
And so I'm.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Watching a murder that I chose to watch deliberately, and
then it it ends I'm in bed with my girl
and the next murder comes on.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
No thumbnail, no.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Time sounds like you're watching snuff films.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, no thumbnail, no timecode, and we just started watching
this one.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
This sixteen year old girl named me Kayla was very
very solved.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
I want that Saturday annoying that you don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I want that. I want to know that that bastard.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, they what was so great about this this one?

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Uh? It was on Explore with.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Us and every one of the interrogations was filmed just
in high res up close. They interviewed the boyfriend, who
is always the first suspect, then the ex boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
You kind of I didn't even realize.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
At one point I hit pause because I had to
go pee and I don't want to miss you know,
what's what's going on? And I realized when I hit pause,
that's when the time code shows up.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
This is an hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Long murder damn.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
And I'm like, I'm and I'm committed. I'm like I'm
I'm in.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
And and uh, I'm like, wow, I can't believe it.
And by the time that one was over. Okay, the
title of this particular video and they give away too
much on the thumbnail and uh, and the title I
would criticize that it was called uh like father sickened

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by son's confession.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Okay, well, we know what happened though.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, but there's a twist that comes in after we
learned that.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Do you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
I haven't seen that one. Oh my god, I need
to catch up. Oh no, they could have.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
And I gotta believe Explore with us is hearing my feedback.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
This was the most ex.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
This was the most explosively like mind blowing twist at
the end of this case. It just I don't think
it needed to be an hour and a half.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I think you.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Could have tightened it up. I watched the whole thing.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I just think show I guess, right, I guess.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'm not complaining about exploring this. They're just not batting
a thousand and sometimes they could.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Tighten it up. J CS. Not a frame can be criticized.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Damn, that's respect right there.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
It is. I mean, dude, it is like gold Standard
doesn't even do the trick. It's so good, it's so good,
And and he never misses. J C has never misses
miss Oh my god, it's so good.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I'd be there, you go. J C has criminal psychology.
There's not even that many videos on the channel. There's
not that many, and every single one of them. How
about the one about the m M A guy.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, but he had some weird name like the Machine
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah yeah, Okay.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
So in any case, the most surprising confounding thing about
all of these murderers when they're on trial, when they're
is that I think think one hundred percent of the time,
it is so important to the murderer to get the

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death penalty off the table.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
They want to stay alive, they want to.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Let They're like anything but the death penalty.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'd be like, I'm just going to take the death penalty.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
It sounds it sounds so backwards to me.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Ever, well, I think that that it is the ultimate
catch twenty two of the human experience.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Like I believe that the human experience is like.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
A very cruel prank on us because we have one instinct,
which is to survive at all costs, and these murderers
are proof of it.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
At all costs.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
We must survive, but we only have one guarantee, which
is we're not going to survive. So like the one
thing that matters the most to us, you know, the
avoid dying, is the is the only thing that we
can be positive that we're.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
The biggest we have usually.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Barreling towards the one thing we're most afraid of, that
is our condition in the human experience, and as we
barrel towards it, we wilt, our body deteriorates, we become
less appealing to our fellows, you know. Like I'm I'm

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like really uh kind of like sort of hyper focused
on it because I am such a gnarly attention whore.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I just always have been. I just I just always
have been.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Man Like, the my overdeveloped need for attention is staggering.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I would go so far as to say that I
am a world class attention whore.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Really, yeah, because it's like the lengths that I'm willing
to go to to become to make myself the center
of attention are like, it's pretty next level stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, I mean, where's that come from?

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I mean, I don't I uh, I don't think you
have to be Sigamund Freud to.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Point to, you know, the lack of attention from my
uh my parents.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
My dad was a.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Wildly successful corporate executive. I was six months old. My
dad was the president of Pepsi.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Cola in all of Brazil.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
I was raised by maids.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
So of my first words, I spoke in Portuguese because
my parents I was spending more time with the maids, like,
and they speak Portuguese. My my parents spoke English like Americans.
But I'm a baby talking in Portuguese because I get
no attention from my parents and my mom is like
super alcoholic, you know, like, so me added like and

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then and then there's the fact that I grew up
in five different countries.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I was just I spoke three different.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Languages by the age of three and forgot two of
them completely by the age of five. I'm a citizen
of three different countries. That's wild because I was born
in England. My mom was born in Canada, which makes
me Canadian.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Do you have access to Canada through that?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
My dad was born in America, So I've got a
British passport, a Canadian passport, and an American passport?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
How about us?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
And I grew I was born in England, like spoke
my forts words in Brazil, attended nursery school in Venezuela
kindergarten in Connecticut, like first grade through half of fourth
in Miami, second half of fourth grade through sixth grade
in London.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
England, you all around.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, never really planted for somewhere for too long.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
I did seventh grade and half of eighth grade in
Canada yea, and then the second half of eighth grade
all the way through high school in London, England.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Again, so I was always in school.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
And I mean, I don't know, like, I don't know
if any of that even like really informs why I
am the way I am. It. I'm sure factors in, right,
but suffices to say that that I've just got this crazy,
you know, attention seeking thing, and it's it's kind of
a blessing because when you get down to it, you know,

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we deal in a very capitalistic commercial world, and one
could argue, if not just prove outright, that the most
valuable commodity known to man is attention.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Really, I mean think about it. Everything's driven by advertising.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
These days more than ever, I would say, right, right.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I mean, like attention is I would I would guess
demonstrably the most valuable commodity known de mand.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
So for someone like you, if if you go a
long time without attention or something, or like, is there
a time where you start to feel weird? I mean
that makes sense, like just like that. It's like a
way just like a I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
It doesn't it totally makes sense. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
It's crazy because now everybody's an attention horror, you know,
like I would.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
I was like a kind of an outlier, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like you were the OG.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
It was the nineteen eighties, dude.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right, and we had really trying to get their attention.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I started skateboarding, you know, it's very seriously when I.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Was thirteen in nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Wow, my buddies and I started playing with video cameras
in nineteen eighty nine, you know, like because that's what
skateboarders dom h And then if we and then I'm like,
whoa hold on a second here with video camera, I
can't edit out all the times that I didn't pull
off the trick.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
You know. Yeah, after you edit, then it's like you
you landed everything.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
So like that's a big how are you editing? Back?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Then the two there's a VHS camera winding and stopping
and no.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
You you plug two VCRs together, VCR meaning video cassette
recorder and on the first one you got your output
cables coming out of the first VCR and then they're
going into the input cables. On the second VCR, you
hit play on VCR number one, you hit record on

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VCR number two, only recording where you make the trick
and you.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Keep it pause and then you and then that's how
that's how we did it.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
And and in doing that, like what you are able
to create a version of events with which you manipulate
people's perception of you. You can control how people perceive you.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
You made it look better. Yeah, and it was in
real life. You were doing it in that moment.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Right, And like, I mean to start out with an
overdeveloped concern for the opinions of others, an insatiable desire
to be the center of attention, like wow, Like and
I can control how people see what I want to
present them.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
And then on top of that, like we're all going
to be dead.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like where our instinct is to survive, but we're barreling
towards our demise.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
We're all going to be.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Dead, but the videos will still have the capacity to
play after I'm deceased, So it's that important A hundred
I was like I had have like a religious attachment
to the video camera because it represented my way of

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cheating death.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
This was gonna make me immore.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Live on forever through this material.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
And I thought I was going to be dead out
of having failed at life early because I couldn't I
couldn't graduate from school, I couldn't go to class in college,
couldn't keep a job, I got fired from everything, Like,
I couldn't see how it was going to work out
for me to support myself and survive in the world.
So I'm like, I got to hurry up and make
the fucking craziest videos ever so that I can live

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on after I'm.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Dead, Right, That's all I was in it for. Yeah,
It's all I was in it for. But but yeah,
D like you fucking live forever.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
And then you know, its Noman attention core, And and
it turns out that I didn't die young.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I actually got.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I'm surprised you drop missing like an arm or a
leg right, I.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Got the I got, I got all kinds of attention.
Turns out, and there's no amounts, it's enough. And it
also turned out very very tragically, that footage really isn't forever,
footage really isn't immortal.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
As soon as Jackass comes out, I'm dealt the crushing
blow that. In fact, footage distinctly expires.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
It has an.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Expiration date, which is the fucking moment. It's made public as.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Soon as as soon as.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah once once it's fucking showed up on TV Ye,
it's a rerun. Yeah, it's expired rerun. That's what a
rerun is.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's expired footage, stale yesterday's old news. And then and
then once, once your ship's expired, then you're only as
good as whatever your next offering is.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
So it's like, what do you got next? So you're
in your life.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Because chasing that, Yeah, when did you realize that that
there was no amount of attention that you would get?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
That solves the problem indefinitely.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Man, that's a tough question, right because, like I thought,
early on, you think that like it's more mythical and
magical than that, then you realize it's not.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's deeper than that, actually, right right.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I would point to two thousand and six, when the
second Jackass movie came out. At that time, like nobody
was saying that these guys are like too old, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
We were still.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
We were like old, we were like early thirties, right,
Maybe Notoxo is thirty five, right, you know, we were
still we were still at an age where people are
like champions in the UFC.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Right now, there's some badasses out there.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Right, and so like there wasn't like just that tinge
of it being you know, like not appropriate anymore, or
like these guys are too old and nobody was like
having interventions pulled on them.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
We were like.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
We were in our heyday of acting out sexually, of
abusing alcohol and drugs.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
But there were no interventions.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
There were There was no like, you know, we're getting
getting away with everything. Everything was just working for us,
and we were when we filmed that second Jackass movie,
like the risks were like.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Really gnarly.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
I mean from a standpoint like put a hook through
my cheeks.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
That was wild.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, Like there was there was a type.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Just let me put the hook.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I mean, dude, there's like there's a sharks going from
my foot and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Like, are you actually scared? In that moment?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, I inadvertently kicked a mako shark in my head
and then like that was like the saving grace because
it was like going to bite my foot Jesus, you know,
and we're two hours away from the shore.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Right, like this gonna be bad. Actually there was a
leg out here. There's no plan you might die.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, like like like.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
There there is a ready to die Knoxios blindfolded standing
in front of a yack man you.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Know cigarette in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, there's there's the rocket thing where the rocket malfunctions.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And like that one was like myths. I feel like yeah,
I mean I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Know, it's worse. It's like the close call when it
malfunctions or when it did what it was like, it
was all it was all bad, you know, like the
ready to.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Die factor in that movie. And we just got away
with everything. We got away with everything in our personal lives,
and we got away got away with everything in front
of the camera. Everything that we did in that movie
worked like and and once we put that movie together,
I mean every Jackass movie, as soon as it was done,

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was like sworn.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
To be the last one. There was never supposed to
be a second one. Okay, it was like not so
sware that we're never like it's done, we're going out
on top.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Never and then it was like four years later, like hey,
we're gonna get the band back.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Together, you know. And but but it was understood this
is it.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's you know, and even if it wasn't gonna be over, like,
there was no way that we were gonna top that
second one. Man, that Jackass number.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Two was the gnarliest, the nar like everything that was
just the Hey, that was the pinnacle. And I recognized
it at the time.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
That was the pinnacle, and I was like, there's no
there's no way anything's.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Gonna it's just like that was what I was like.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's all downhill from here, really, and I was I
really viewed that, and I think it's probably like this
is probably duche to compare, but I've heard Olympic athletes
say that it's understood that after training your whole life
to be an Olympian.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Like, what's substantially.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
More devastating than failing is actually winning because when they
hang that one, when they hang that metal around.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Her neck, like it's like they're it's like they're hanging
the end of you. How many.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
This is what I trained my whole life for and
now here I pulled it and then what do I
do after that?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
It's like they done it? Now? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
The Man on the Wire who did the typewroping documentary,
it's like what about what's next after that?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
You know? And I felt like that that was my moment.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I showed up to that Jack has No True premiere,
and I was just like, categorically, it's all downhill from here,
Like I like, this is it? And I remember, like
I was, I was in terrible shape with an addiction
to huffing nitrous oxide.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yes, a little old doc a long time ago. Yeah,
I mean that was what was that?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Like?

Speaker 4 (30:22):
It was?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
It was really really gnarly, Like there was even like
this crazy like countdown kind of a situation going on
with the this voices in my head and the like
spirits and the you know, it was.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
It was just a gnarly situation. And I showed up.
I showed it up in a limo to the red
carpet premiere with.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
My father, my sister, my four year old niece, she
was four at the time, doctor Drew Pinsky.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Doctor doctor and what was he doing there?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
And Ron Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I mean, just a weird night.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I like, I was just buddies with doctor Drew, like
I would guest host on Loveline sometimes.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
So doctor Drew is in the limo, n I get
out of the limo, come come onto the red carpet.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
And I just like I.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Just pulled out my wiener and and literally just stood
there pissing on the red carpet with all the flashbulbs
going off. I'm just urinating all over the red carpet.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Purpose Yeah, just like.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
I meant to wild, I meant to do it. My
four year olds just sitting there, like my four year
old niece is do it. My dad is not even irate,
He's just like beyond somewhere to be like if if
disappointed could be seething, seeing disappointing more than yeah, like

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seething and you know, and and I was like, I
think that just psychologically, I was just so mad at
that red carpet that just represented the last stop on
the glory train.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Wow, you know you felt like that in the moment. Yeah,
for sure, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
I spun out of control, man, Like I was out
of control.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
But like I just sp like I just spun out
of control so bad.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
And that was two thousand and six.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I like, you know, come March of two thousand and eight,
like the wheels are off and I'm crashed and burned
and I'm in like the psychiatric ward and the rehab
and all that. Right, So to answer your question, when
do I feel weird when there's no attention?

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Like it's.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
It's like it's a dangerous game, particularly for me, like
the spotlight the attention like as a process of like.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Being in recovery as a drug addict and an alcoholic.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Like there's a real major like spiritual component to.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
It, you know, like we got our higher power.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
We've got like you know, like our spiritual practice, you know,
like our like I acknowledge all of our wrongs and
go to make them right, you know, like clean up
our side of the street, and like in all of that,
Like what's so important is to find separation between like

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the attention warring the person like the professional like.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Does it good? Blurry?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Big time blurry, especially with podcasting, you.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Know, especially with podcasting podcasting just totally it's like right now.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
For sure, you just new guests all the time. It's like,
who are you today?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I'm only here because it's gonna get news right, right,
but but you're getting yeah right, and and like so
we're here like by definition, we're doing this for attention.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Right exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
But I'm speaking like as who I am you know,
so like this is like a hybrid there.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Is no separation.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yah.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Now it's kind of all one thing right, right, And
do you have to work to get to that point
or were you towards that where it becomes like a
soul self of that where it's like, hey, I gotta
like be more whole or something.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I mean, yeah, I just gotta figure out how to
be okay leg when it's all.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Done, you know, And is it ever done? You think?

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I mean I do, I It's not done. It's just
gonna change.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
And you know, I'm like hyper focused on like the
getting older kind of a thing, like really like where
it's like.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
The jackass stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
My identity is so kind of wrapped up in this
like adolescence, irresponsible, reckless, like it's a young miss stunts.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
You know, our jackass shit is a young dude's game, right,
and we're not young anymore, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Like attention warring is a young dude's game. And it's
so scary for me because the human condition, the human
experience is this impossible catch twenty two and nobody wants
to think about it.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh, like which part of it.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Nobody wants to acknowledge? Or in any meaningful way consider
their own mortality. Nobody wants to think about it. Not
cool to bring it up, not cool to make people
think about the fact that they're going to be.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
A popular people because it's a bummer.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
People are.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Mortality is a bummer. It's a reality. But it's a
reality that bumps us out. We don't want to think
about it.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I had an experience in uh two thousand and one.
Jackass was was just you know, a new show on MTV.
I think it was in its second season. I was
helplessly addicted to cocaine and in Cancun, Mexico for Spring break.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Break had nothing to do with MTV.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
It was there was a somewhat shady rave promoter from
Cleveland who had booked me to uh perform some silly shows,
do some personal appearance type stuff in kN Kun So
I was down there. I want to say, for like
a good couple of weeks in a row, every single

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taxi driver in kN kun as I understand it doubles
as a cocaine dealer.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Really still, I think so, I think so, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
If you ask your cab driver in Cocaine or in
king Kuon for cocaine. If they don't have it immediately
under their driver's seat, they'll just go.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
To the the nearest corner with their friend.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, there's like a like there would be like a
little cab stop and they'll get it from another guy.
But in any case, it's pretty powerful cocaine in my
experience down there. So one night I was in my
hotel room totally by myself, you know, coming into the
next day like Super Bender, super super Binge. Like every

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channel on the TV was doing live coverage of the
execution of the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVay. Okay, I
feel like it was even like in broadcast in Spanish
on some channels. But it was just like very striking
to me that this guy who blew up this federal

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building in Oklahoma City, which which had a daycare center
in it.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
I mean he like he's he.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Blew up the whole building, like all the babies in
the daycare center, the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Like hundreds of.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
People were killed in this in this act, and here
he is I'm in Mexico. Even on the Spanish speaking
stations in Mexico, like CNN, like all that events.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
It was.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
It was which is kind of weird, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
It was, and I was glued to it, like I
was absolutely fascinated. But of course I was just sitting there,
you know, high on cocaine and and uh, you know,
just but but the guy, in my view at that time,
was like the most famous guy on the planet.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
And if I were to.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
You know, I guess I don't even think I have
to guess. The guy was loving the attention. The guy
was loving the attention. I think I would categorize him
as somebody who didn't care if he's infamous, just wants.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
To be known.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Ye, he was just loving the attention. And as it
all unfolded, he got his uh, he got his last meal.
He requested to have two tubs of mint chocolate chip
ice cream.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Just that.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
I think that was it.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I think I.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Filmed that show yesterday. What do you mean They have
a show format called last Meal.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
You can get them to make you anything.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
They don't kill you, They just give your last Yeah,
your dream meal. You know you had your dream meal yesterday?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okay, So what is it then?

Speaker 4 (40:12):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I had this baked corn snack from England called pickled
onion monster Munch, which I love I had a huge lobster,
vegan grilled cheese and tomato soup, crunchy shrimp, temporal le
a pea campire with melted Reese's peanut butter cups all

(40:33):
over it.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Do they have all ingredients in the world? How do
they get all this stuff?

Speaker 4 (40:38):
They just make it happen.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
To make it happen, they did.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
They had a.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Soundclown wrapper order a steak like covered in in a
twenty four carrot gold flakes.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Because is so good.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, yeah, this guy, I think everybody. I guess it
was two pints mint chocolate chip ice cream.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Then he uh, you.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Know, it goes into the to the death chamber. It
was a lethal injection goes into the the death chamber.
And they had it was kind of like a.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I guess like a pod, and it had.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Different rooms around it in a circle and uh one
way glass so that the people in each respective room
could see into the death chamber, but.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
One way glass, so you know, it was you couldn't see.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
And one room was for members of the media to
witness it and report what they saw. Another room was
for government officials, and a third room was for you know,
family members, Yeah, loved ones and family members of the

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victims who just wanted like the vindication.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
To see it happen.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
So the guy comes into his room, I and this
is all, you know, I'm you know, once it's said.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
And done, I'm like a movie that you're setting up here,
But this is all a real dude happened.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
And I'm uh, you know, kind of relaying what I
heard reported from after it happened, like the you know,
the media and people are on the news thinger. The
guy walks into the death chamber and he he gets
to have his last words, which he declined to say himself.

(42:39):
Rather he wrote down his last words and they were
read aloud by like, you know, some kind of government
official in the room.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
And and this was like particularly offensive to me because
the last words were not like, not only were they
not like remorseful, not only were they not.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
You know, they were just vile. You know. It was
like it was basically like.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Out yeah, he was saying, I'm the master of my
own domain, you know, like basically I'm not sorry, you know,
I do it all over again.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Was kind of the vibe of it. And just the
fact that, uh, you know that it was.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Like it was taxpayer money who paid the salary of
that government official to read those vile words, right, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
I found offensive. And then.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
After the words are read, and and and this, uh, this,
this guy like squints at each pane of one way
glass like trying to like you know, acknowledging each rooms,
like kind of squints, are trying to see through it,
and like just kind of scoffs, you know, like with

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disrespect at each one.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Everyone trying trying to do that.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I mean, and and and and I completely I'm completely reserved.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
The possibility that I have some form of revisionist memory.
This is how I remember.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
This is what I remember.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Yeah, this is what has been a long time. That's
how I remember.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
But he like acknowledged each room like with just gesture
of disrespect, and then when they actually get give the injection.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I mean, it's a series of three different injections. The
first one is.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
If not actually propofal, it's the equivalent like a general anesthesia,
you know.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
So it's like.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
It's like going into surgery without the pesky like waking
up sore part, you.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Know, right, couldn't what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Ker could not have been more of a cakewalk, you know,
the most the most humane, the most gentle, the most
like just uh, the most medicated. It's like this, this
guy had such an easy death that that that.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
It was reported he didn't even blink.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
He'd like, he's just kind of as it's just his
head went back out down. He didn't even blink. It
was just disrespect, just being vile. And then they just
saw him have this like utterly painless, comfortable, peaceful, like.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Like putting your pet down.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Present, putting your pet down.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
It like it just I feel like the world is
full of terminally ill individuals who are just in unbearable
suffering agony and not legally allowed to be euthanized. They're like,

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they're all kinds of worlds full of Them's maybe on
averse statement, but I think there's no shortage of people
who would beg beg to have such.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
An easy I'd be one if I was just in
complete shambles, I'd say just beautiful.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Right, It's just so unfair.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
They're like people who are good, people who never did
anything wrong, terminally ill and in great suffering, are not
afforded this easy, painless death that this vile individual was afforded.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
And and just the most famous guy in the world.
It's just soaking up all of the attention.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Right that we gave to him, though, right that we gave.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
To him, and just painless, like everything about it was
that all of that put aside.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Is not even like what I considered the main issue here.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
The main issue here.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Is that in order to carry out capital punishment, to
actually go through with executing a prisoner, it is required
for that to go through the process of appeals all
the way up to the Supreme Court. As I understand it,

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it has to go all the way through the Supreme
Court because they want to be so sure that they're
not executing the wrong people that they have this just
over the top appellate process to.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Appeal the conviction.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
And by the time you've gone all the way up
to the Supreme Court and exhausted the entire appeal process,
you have generated in court costs at the expense of the.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Taxpayer, endless amount of money.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Mike, not quite ten times the amount of money that
it would cost to just throw away the key and
let that person live.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Out their natural life in a jail cell.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
And I know that that it's not quite ten times
because I'm so fascinated with this subject that I actually
sought to interview a death row inmate.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh wow on my podcast. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
And they found a guy who was on death row
for like twenty years but got his sentence commuted to
life and then managed to get.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Parolled and is free.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
So wild.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
He was able to speak to the experience of being
on death row, the experience of being in general population,
and being free.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, all things I don't ever want to do, right.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, And I got all kinds of backlash for why
are you platforming this guy?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Was the backlash a belt.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I mean, it's like, the guy killed somebody, are you
giving them.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
He did? Okay, definitely kill somebody.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
He was so appropriately remorseful, you know, like even in
like in a touching way.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Oh no, way. You've got the book Ishmael. That's like
my favorite book.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Literally, what's that book? Then?

Speaker 4 (49:19):
It's it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
It's uh, it's a novel about how how utterly fucked
we are.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Oh ship, I can't wait to read it.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Yeah, I can tell I can tell you about it.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
But it's okay, Well it's yeah, take that book tonight.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It's it's epic, but but yeah, so uh, you know,
in the process of finding this, this very remorseful guy
who uh you know, I I learned it's not quite
ten times like for someone to live their natural life.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Maybe it's closer to three times. But whatever it is, uh,
you know, it's the power of a multiple. It costs
a lot more to.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Make somebody make an asshole, like give them all the
attention they want, you know, I give them a completely
painless life, just makes them feel important, celebrates them, and
costs way more money.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
And it's it's just like.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
You know, and and and I started out by saying,
I think that the debate, the typical debate around the
death penalty is uh.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Just it's it's kind.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Of miss misguided because the typical debate about the death
penalty is people saying it's not you know, like, uh,
it's kind of like an iph and eye makes the.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Whole world blind.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
It's like an iph and eye makes a whole world blind.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
You shouldn't take a life because to show that taking
a life is wrong, you know, like people think that
that the death penalty is like two too.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Much, And in my view, it's not harsh enough.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I mean, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
If someone killed one of my family members, I would
want to kill them.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Right, and I want them to die.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
I mean, but it's just like I think about I
think about the room in the viewing room.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
For the people who are the family members, loved ones
of the victims, who are there for that vindication.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
They're they're like they.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Want to see this, Yeah, they want to see this
bastard die, Like where's the vindication?

Speaker 4 (51:45):
And hearing vile words.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah that it sounds like, I mean just yeah, you
just stopped all over you guys.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
They just those loved ones and family members went there
and like they were dish respected, you know, and and
they I just don't see how they got any vindication
in watching that guy just lay rest his head against
a cushion, a cushy chair, right, and not even Blinka's eye.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Are you an eye for an eye?

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I think that that the that the suffering that people
go through in this life, the life is tough, man.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Death is easy, dude. That's my view.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I think that there's that I believe pretty pretty confidently
that actually being dead is not too tough.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
You know, it's life that's well, you're dead, you know,
it's it's it's life.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I hope it's not tough, because that would really suck.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
I mean, we're all screwed if it's yea.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
And so it's life that's challenging, and uh, you know,
I just think that vindication would be in in the
guy living and miserable life.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
That's probably that's worse than just passing away real quick,
easy out.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Also gently passing away so gently, yeah it's so nice.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yeah, gently and painlessly.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
And in all of this, you know, I just think
let's let's be more frugal with uh, with our spending
as a nation, as as as people like, let's not
throw money away on like, uh, is.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
This worth it? I don't think so. Maybe not, it's
not worth that.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Plus they do sometimes execute the wrong people.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I think that's my thing. It's like we're not good
enough at it.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
People have a good.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Enough ratio here, right, we should be one hundred percent right,
nothing else.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
And I think that it's really fucking important to think
about it, to to live your life deliberately in a
fashion that you want to have, that you want to
have lived your life in a way that you're stoked
to you lived your life when it's over, Like.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
If you died the more kind of thing, Yeah, did
you do what you wanted to do?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Fu?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Would you just get called out?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Did you did you too soon? You want to be
on your deathbed thinking fuck.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, I want did I do that? I would hate that.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
You want to die thinking fuck yeah, dude, I killed it.
You know I killed it.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
You can lead with that sort of mentality, right man.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
That has to be bleeding into some of the stunts
you've done that are so crazy, right for sure?

Speaker 4 (54:18):
I mean now, like did I do everything right? You know?
Like maybe not?

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I don't know, but like, but I'm very deliberate. I'm
very like driven for for my goals, and like you know,
like like like what I've identified as my goal is
I go after it, and I do it deliberately.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
I think that to think, like to be there and
you're dying.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Be like ah fuck man, I like I always like
to avoided thinking about this.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
And people do they have their blinders on?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Yeah, they don't work about it, right, They.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Have They have signs indicating like where's the nearest hospital.
It's like a big H on a blue square, you know,
like like hospital, you know, because that's where you go
to get better people. People are down with going to
people are down with the idea of getting better.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I would say that.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Probably a shocking percentage of the population of America does
not know the definition of the word hospice right, Like,
And there's definitely no fucking there are more people in
hospices not getting better than there are in hospitals getting.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Better, literally waiting to die.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yeah, but nobody wants to fucking think about it. There's
no signs for where the hospice is at.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Nobody even wants to know what it is. And like
when people get old, like, not only do they not
want to like take care of their elderly, they want
to just fucking shut them into nursing homes, get them
away from me because I don't want to deal with
the hassle. But even more so, old people are just

(55:59):
a fucking party foul there being.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Old, bringing your grandpa to the party. Like, I'm not that.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I think that being old is an aggressive party foul
because when you are old, you serve as a reminder
of people's mortality and they don't know more.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Than others based on how you aged.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Right, and and people don't want to think about it.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
It's like, dude, I don't want to people don't even
want to look at an old guy.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
You're thinking, like this, get to get the.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Fucking old guy away from me because he's kind of
bumming me out.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Because you know, I like not cool, bro, Get the fucking
out of my my fucking ice eye line, you know.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
And like it's such a scary thing to be an
attention wore to me, to need at my core to
be the center of attention, but to be like wilting
and and and deteriorating and just.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Turning into this like this thing of you know, the
the like this repellent.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
You know, So if you could freeze it and stop it, now,
would you do it?

Speaker 4 (57:13):
No? No, No, I mean I'm not trying to change anything.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Yeah, but but that that's my conundrum. I'm hyper sensitive
and very self conscious about how it's not fucking okay
for anybody to get.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Old, let alone Steve O. Like Steve, Like.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
The first joke in my my new special is like
I'm in a fucked up situation. I'm Steve O in
my forties, you know, Like that's funny, Like it's not
okay for fucking STEVEO to be in.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
His forties and made it this far.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Yeah, I think it right right, right right, But like
that's that's just the jam I'm in.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Yes, that's the jam I'm in. And so now what
am I gonna do about it?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Evolve?

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Gotta evolve and like more and more, I gotta like
set myself up to be okay when the attention goes wait,
that's where the separation.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Has to come in.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
And like I started touring comedy clubs in twenty ten,
and you know, it was like I didn't have any
Like I had done local comedy clubs in LA. Like
you get on stage for ten minutes, they give you,
they give you like twenty five bucks.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
You know, maybe they give you fifty bucks. I was like, oh, okay, whatever,
but I just wanted to do it.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
And when the Third Jackass Maybe came out in twenty ten,
I go on Howard Stern and I'm like, yo, Howard
jumping in the comedy club like every night, I'm loving it,
like I'm.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Gonna be fuck.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
I'm trying to get a gig tonight in New York.
And because I said that on Howard Stern, I get
a call from my lawyer. He says him I'm I'm
getting requests from comedy clubs like all over the country
and they're trying to book you. It's like, I've got
an offer for for twenty thousand dollars, all right, and

(59:02):
like what that offered?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Like stand up gig?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah, it was in a comedy club and it was
for six shows from Thursday through Sunday for.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
A week of work, right, yeah, four days.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, one show on Thursday, then two shows on Friday,
two shows on Saturday, and then one show on Sunday.
So if you like, let's say it was it was
eighteen thousand dollars, then you could divide that by six
and arrive at three.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
That's like three thousand bucks per show. It was insane.
I couldn't even believe it. Let's fuck yah, I'll do that,
you know. So I start doing the you know, I
start doing.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
This whole comedy club circuit, and like I knew that
people didn't see me as a stand up guy, and
I was fucking giving it hell and doing the best
I could. And I was doing it well enough.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
You kind of work with that in some way or
well acknowledging that or something in your sets.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I was doing well enough that it was a good
business move for comedy club to book me, right exactly
going to keep getting booked in comedy clubs, I made
it around the whole comedy club circuit and was invited
for another loop.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
And I did that for eleven years. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
And over the course of eleven years grinding in comedy clubs,
I literally got somewhere with the crafty.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I mean, yeah, just I just gave it. I gave
it hell.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
And recognizing that that I really had a bit of
an uphill battle to establish myself as a performer of
live comedy, I wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
To anything like from people's perception of you or your
perception of yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Like I knew that anybody coming to see Steve O
at a comedy club had some low ass expectations for
Steve O's stand up, and I knew that anybody who
did come to the comedy club would would be surprised
by how it was better than what they expected and
so given and I would lure them to the comedy

(01:01:15):
club with promises of I'm gonna do dumb ship too, Yeah,
lure them in with I'm gonna do fucked up ship
on stage and try to leave them impressed with the
show is actually funny. And then at the end of
the show, I would like every single time, I would
say to the crowd, I am not going anywhere or

(01:01:36):
doing anything until I take a photo with every single
one of you guys, whole audience that wants a photo,
because I felt that to make to make sure that
as many people as possible left that comedy club with
a photo, I felt pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Confident that they would post that photo with me with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Some the medium straight up yeah, grassroots market, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Give it, send everybody home with the photo, and feel
confident that when they post that photo that they're.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Gonna say it was actually good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
You know, out there in the ether, you know that
it's worth it to go see Steve to comedy club.
And and that's why I did the meet and greet
after every single show. But also every meet and greet
after every show was a glorified audition to figure out

(01:02:35):
who I was gonna act out sexually with that night.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
I was looking for, looking for some kind of groupie action,
get some chick back to the hotel hookup right, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I wanted to just like to hook up with chicks
as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
And you know what, in twenty ten, I was thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
You know, by twenty three thirteen, I'm thirty eight, I'm
getting close to forty, and I'm realizing that, like this
is just kind of pathetic, you know, like the whole
just hook up with as many chicks as you possibly
can thing is h you know, not the path to

(01:03:20):
really being like happy right with the right right eventually. Yeah,
and with the terrifying idea of becoming a walking party
foul that nobody wants to pay attention to and needing attention.
Like like what I recognized and I subscribed to the
idea that for me to be happy later in life,

(01:03:43):
I needed to stop like just being promiscuous, just hooking
up with chicks. I needed to learn how to be
in a healthy relationship. And I needed to find a
life partner with somebody who who will be with me
when I'm old and nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Wants to look at me right, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yeah, someone someone who loved me for me and helped
me weather the crazy, scary, terrifying storm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
If you might end up alone, right, and then you
were running out of options as you get older.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
And it makes sense cheap because if you if you
you know, like look at studies about happiness and like
quality of life, you know, longevity, like people who are
married who have like like solid, stable, healthy relationships, long
healthy marriages, like it's the best you can possibly shoot for, right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
So that became a big ass deal for me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Are you there now?

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
I started trying to I tried to stop hooking up
with chicks in twenty thirteen, like pretty early.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
What happened.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
I couldn't do it, man. It was like it was
like the alcoholics, I'm not gonna drink. I'm not going there.
We yeah, and it was crazy. And so you know,
I got.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Into therapy with the therapy specialized in in sex stuff.
And that guy's like, dude, you gotta you gotta go
to sex outed rehab.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Like fuck man, you know, and uh and and I do. There.
I mean, I was there with one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Guy who was in in trouble with h like some
like kind of child porn situation.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Another guy was just like blown up his marriage, like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Every everyone at some point something more than others.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Here, the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Majority of people in that world of of sexual sobriety
are for the most part, like have blown up their marriages,
their families and trying to put the pieces back together,
or they're like in serious trouble with the law.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Either way, they're fucked in some way. They got to
stop doing this, right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I was like a little bit of a unicorn in
that world, like for being there preemptively. Yeah, My story
was that I got to do the work to become
the man that the love of my life deserves.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Okay, that's that's cool, though.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Fully acknowledging that I had not met the love of
my life. And after that sex addict rehab, they recommended
a period of celibacy where you just don't even blow
a load.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
So yeah, November beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Ever and uh and that that's supposed to like help
kind of rewire like your you know, coca. They recommend
like thirty or ninety days, ok and uh And I
like kind of stuntified the whole thing. And I turned
like it was October of twenty thirteen. I was in
that sex addict rehab thing, and coming out of that,

(01:07:00):
I had like stumbled with the celibacy thing like and
then I was like, no, no, I'm in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
I did not blow a load the entire year of
twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I went I went precisely four hundred and thirty one days.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
So what does that do?

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
It makes you irritable.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
And in the beginning of twenty fourteen, I had less
than a million Facebook followers. At the end of twenty fourteen,
I had more than eight million.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Well, because you didn't blow your loads.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Yeah, I mean, dude, I was. I was grumpy, and
I was focused, and I was right I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Might some shit. I was dotted working your ass off.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
You know, I got the like I started my YouTube
channel in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
And I like, I got that like. I put a
lot of work into them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
You know, I took control of my career back from
the suits who had to give me permission to work
before that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
You know, can we talk about that, just that that
final load.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Sure, I took a photo of it on my Tommy.
It was it was, it was. It was wildly uh underwhelming.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Yeah, like at a certain point, I mean, you think
there's just gonna be a.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Golf block, a marshmallow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
That was a Bobby Lead joke that like a big
marshmallow falls out, Like, No, it wasn't a fire hose,
it wasn't anything. It's more watery then I'd remembered it.
I think that your body, it just cycles through your body.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Okay, it's just giving up on the whole idea.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Yeah, man, like that, you know that's just my deal, dude,
Like I uh, I really think that that's important. That's
like the you know, I had this whole pattern of
just like using ship, I would be like infatuated with
with the woman, like pour on the charm, really get
her to fall for me, like act out with her,

(01:09:03):
then totally lose interest and just wanted to not be
anywhere near.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Are you consciously doing that or not this pattern you
kind of realized that you were doing where you felt
like that in the moment, and then you did.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Sure not deliberate at all, just straight up so sociopath ship,
like this is just like this is like my future
is with this one, you know, like I'm refatuated and
then like one like like once I act out with them,
it's just like a light switch just flips just I'm

(01:09:35):
like over it, just get me away, and then like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
And then the whole ghost routine.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
And then it's like not lost on me that when
I'm doing that, I called it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Like I burned that person. I burned that person.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
And it's not lost on me that that not only
did I not treat that person the way I want
to be, I actually treated that person the way I
most fear being treated myself because I definitely have abandonment issues.
I definitely don't do well with rejection. And there's just

(01:10:15):
like I don't even understand it, Like how how can
I like, how can I be cooking up worst cards?

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Right, like what you would hate the most?

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Hate the most?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
And it's like, you know, I feel like there's some
built in defense mechanism where would only like let myself
like you know, subconsciously, like you know, protect myself by
only dealing with people who I knew I could burn

(01:10:44):
them before they burn me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Just like real weird here yet Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
But but every time I did that, I just felt
like the worst person because once, once, once the process
was complete, I knew that I had treated some buddy
the way that I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Most don't feel guilty about the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Shame, just shame disgusted myself. I just feel my self
esteems is just awful.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
And and then not to mention like just all the stress,
like oh my god, like what I like, you know,
like like what are my health concerns, like just like
the stress, like the it's a fucking nightmare, and even
when it wasn't a nightmare, like just the amount of time,
you know, Like, so I'm like it was a it was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
A bad situation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Anybody who thinks sex addiction is not a thing, like, dude,
sex addiction is taken down more powerful people than like
maybe even like drugs and alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
You know, So, how how did you rewire yourself to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Not be I don't know, man, I really don't know, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Like I had some some uh some misfires, you know,
like after that that underwhelming load, I had a miss
fire with one relationship, a missfire with another relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Then I was like, ah, fuck it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
And then I'd went off the rails again, okay, and
it just like the stress and the chaos of going
off the rails again for that short time was like okay,
and that's kind of maybe what I did. And then
I met my girl in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
When you met her, did you have a feeling right
away or were you just kind of at a point
where I didn't?

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
So how did that go? And how did you guys
get close like that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Then we we dated responsibly for for a month, like we.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Was just new to her like any responsibility or pretty responsibly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
She was like kind of surprised, why like why are
we uh, you know, like why are we going on
like our fourth date, like after a whole month and
we still haven't like kissed.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
And I was like I was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I was just you're on the same page at least.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Thing I was candid about about my track record with relationships.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Being terrible, that my my past being.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Checkered, you know, and that like and I think that
in communicating that openly and honestly that that was important.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
I think just getting to know getting to know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Her, like she's a fucking good ass person and that's
like the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
And then like I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Don't know, dude, and I mean I don't want to
be complacent anything. Oh yeah, now I'm good, you know.
And now I'm like, you know, like the whole spiritual
practice thing is super important, and I just I just
really like like hold on tightly to like the selfish

(01:13:49):
gratification I get from knowing that I'm a good guy
who does the right thing even when.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Nobody's watching, you know, Like that's like that a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Just see even just your own self awareness of that, Hey,
I'm not a shitty guy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
I'm not a shitty guy. Like, like, I've put some
distance between me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
And that power through it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Yeah, I've put.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Distance between me and that fucking terrible shame. And uh
I don't burn people. Yeah, I don't burn people anymore.
And that feels really fucking good. You know, Like, uh,
I've got somebody who like like that, like now, like
it's it's almost like that twenty fourteen dynamic where like
I'm you know, I'm le just not grumpy. Really, I'm

(01:14:35):
just focused on pulling shit off. No distractions, no time sucks,
no no.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, you're you're dialed in, Yeah, and dialed in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
And on top of that, I got this great partner
helps me pull.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Shit off, and it's working together and it's not like
competing with itself.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
And you know my first comedy special, which did more
damage to my career than than good, just because I
wasn't ready. I was like five years in Okay, and
it chronicle It started out as like just gnarly.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Groupie sex like accounts.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Just the stories of it started out like just it
was the craziest stories of groupie sex, and and like
after that show was done and you just heard me
like talk about just like graphic groupie sex, like the
only chicks you know, like that they were they know what,

(01:15:31):
and and like then the act like they you know,
just got nude story, you know. And then it's like, oh,
now I've about the hilarious triple blow job story, you know,
like it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, so so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
You know, it was actually the best bid in the special.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
He's like, actually it was funny too.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Actually it's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
But as the whole like struggling with the sex stuff
came out then like that, you know, I taped that
first special in twenty fifteen and so liked all through
the twenty fourteen it's like I haven't blown a load
in like two hundred days, you know, like yeah, and
it became a story of that was kind of beautiful too,

(01:16:11):
because by the end, by the time I taped that
first special, I was even it was part of my act.
I was like, I don't want to be that guy anymore,
and I'm working on becoming the man the love of
my life deserves. That was kind of, you know, part
part of that and the second special, I was already
with my Actually I proposed to my girl on stage

(01:16:32):
the taping of my second special.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Nice. She had no idea, She had no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
I can't believe she had no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Were you confident that it was going to be a yes?
Or were you like, man, am I about to Yeah?
I was right, usually you should know, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Yeah, I knew it was going to be a yes,
And I knew that she's fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
And then like, now I'm here promoting my third one,
and it's about our relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
So you've been authentic to yourself and all the times.
So where's your headspace at now?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
In the comedy aspect of a new set from STEVEO, I.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Mean, the the first one was like, you know, like,
let's go, let's go with the crazy sex stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
That's gonna be funny, that's gonna be you know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
The second special was, now, let me take in a
journey through my criminal past and my like my drug addiction,
you know, And that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
One, uh was great too.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
And what was what was great about the second one
was that I edited in footage of the stories that
I told in the act in post production, so I
wasn't leaning on the footage on the road, but the
special benefited from the multimedia component.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
And you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Yeah, but as I came, as I came around to
put together the third show, like I didn't want to be.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Like rehashing the past anymore because like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
You know, like pulling stories out of the past is
like I'm over that, and now it's time to create
new stories.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
So you're on news stories.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Yeah, and and and I wanted to have the actually
my tour, my live shows. I wanted to have the
live shows benefit from a multimedia component as well. So
I was like, now I gotta I need new stories.
I need new footage.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Okay, so that's in your live set, like it came.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
On the road with me, and and I was I
was all like I was well established in uh with
the YouTube channel, with like you know, all of this
Facebook social media, so like.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
I was pretty frustrated.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
With like community guidelines, Oh you've got to strike Oh
that's not like that's taken down, Like, oh, I better
be careful not to show this, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
I was just like fuck that. Now I'm going to
bring footage on the road with me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
There's no there's no community guidelines where I'm in this building.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Yeah, I'm bringing I'm bringing the show to you. I'm
going like it's fuck the rules, It's fuck all of
the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Like I'm gonna I'm gonna do ship that I wouldn't
even be allowed to do for Jackass. I'm going to
fucking yeah. And so that's what the third show is.
It's called the bucket List, and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Like it is legitimately triple x.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Rated in what way I'd like when I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Coming up with what's the next show going to be? Like,
what's got to be crazier than ever? I'm like, Rob,
I've kind of done everything. But they're like, well, there
were these ideas that were so fucked up, like like
I would just say them to get a rise out
of people, right, like I'm not actually do it, not
gonna do it, like like it was I actually the
main one the idea because I have this like unbelievably

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crazy and shocking irrational fear of roller coasters.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
And I know how kidding, I know how counterintuitive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
You don't ride roller coasters fucking terrified?

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Are you been on one since I was a teenager?
But I went on one two days ago for footage,
which one Goliath at uh fucking six flags uh here, Yeah,
and in California is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
The same one as it in Atlantic don't have ALI,
So how was it?

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I mean, I hated it. I hated it and and
and I I hated.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Like why do you hate it so much?

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
I just don't like the way control.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Like the way it feels when your stomach falls out, Yeah,
it does. I hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
And for anybody who doesn't believe that I'm telling the truth,
I will point you to a video that I made
on my YouTube channel called ten Stunts I backed out of,
you know, like what was too much for Stevo.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
And it's a video of the performed.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Very well, and I showed footage from when we were
taping Wild Boys.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
They brought me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
The gag was to go to a bungee jumping operation
with a two hundred foot bridge and they built.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Me like Condor man wings so that I could jump
up and try to fly.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yeah, you know, and I was like, it's a funny,
it's a funny bit, but I'm telling you there's like
no way I'm gonna be able to jump. They're like,
come on, They're like we'll talk them into it, you know.
I'm like, I'm serious. I'm serious. You couldn't find anybody
on road rules or their moms who's more fucking shit
scared of bungee jumping and will not do it than
I am.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
I'm just telling you that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
They're like, oh, yeah, whatever, and then we get there,
I'm like, I'm not doing it, just where I'm not
fucking doing it, and they're like really, I'm like, yep,
I cannot, Yeah, I cannot do the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
It's just like it's a rational fear.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
I feel like maybe it's because I grew up like
sussing out like everything I looked at, like can I
jump up that?

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Can I jump arount?

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
Like I like, no part of it, no part of
me thinks it's okay to look off at two hundred
foot bridge and see anything.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Doing I don't care about. I don't care where you
tie to me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
I can't look at that and can't. And and ultimately
what they did, they they they said, we've got five
Costa Rican guys who are willing to throw you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
They make it much better.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
They call it the Mafia Toss perfect And I was like,
I was like, well, like I physically couldn't jump, but
like if they're gonna throw me, I don't I don't
have to do anything.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
So that was the compromise, and they threw me and
it was the worst. It was horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
So like so for the last twenty years, like clearly,
I wanted nothing to fucking do with going skydiving. Don't
want the same thing as roller coasters, same thing as
bungee jumping.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
I don't want to fucking do it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
But rather than tell anybody that I was afraid to
go skydiving, what I would say is, I mean, come on, dude,
that's not a stunt like everybody does that. It's like,
you know what for me, for it to be worth
it for me to.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Go skydiving, I would have to be butt ass.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Naked and furiously masturbating with another man strapped to my
back and time it so that when I fall out
of the airplane, I'm simultaneously ejaculating everywhere. I called the
idea of skyjacking, and this was just my built in way. Yeah,

(01:23:38):
this was my built in way of just making sure
that I never went skydiving.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
But when it was time for me to put together
that this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
New multimedia tour, I'm like, I gotta fucking I gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
All out, so like I got to push the boundaries further.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
So that's kind of like the marquee thing, and I
totally went skyjacket.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Did you do this? Did you successfully do it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Like Minute Special starts with that, like as an example
of like how fucking absurd every item on my bucket
list is. And then like we go on in this
journey through the list and I loop back to skyjacking
like at the end for the climax. Yeah, and and

(01:24:26):
like what what's so beautiful about it is that that
I couldn't have taken on these forbidden stunts without there
being implications on my relationship with my fiance. So like
my relationship with my fiance is the backdrop against which
all of this happens, you know, Like the bucket list

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goes sequentially in a descending.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
Order of my girls' support and approval. Like in the beginning,
she's all all about it, right, you know, I described.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
The first room like this is how I knew she
was the one. Everyone else is running for their lives.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
And she's fucking getting closer for a better shot, you know,
really yeah, real one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Yeah, and uh, and so that's kind of how it works,
and dude, like I'm talking descending order of approval, Like
she starts not showing up, Like when I've got like
the medical professional in disguise who stole the fucking drugs
from the hospital, who's sticking a four inch needle into

(01:25:34):
my spine and injecting a drug into my spinal cavity
to render me paralyzed while I'm in a full fucking sprint.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
Yeah, and that like is just how I go down. Yeah,
that I could. I could officially die like she did.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
She like upset about that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
I don't want to hear that, or like, Okay, I
know this is your job.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
She never tried to get me not to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
She just said in a really like genuine, like uh authentic,
heartfelt way. She was just like there there are certain
things that you can never unsee, and I'm just not
able to bring myself there to witness one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
So I did it without her.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
So I did it anyway, right and then and once
I was down, like fuck, dude, it's just so like
I had that one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
What was that? Like? So Hell's being paralyzed.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
It's called an epidural It's supposed to be like your
lower half, you know, like they give to its supposed
to be from the waist down.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
And I remember, like I didn't even know the guy
and he's talking about like you know, like, oh, yeah,
we'll do it. I'm like, I can't pass this up.
But let me reach out to doctor Drew.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Just to like doctor Drew.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Drew has been my brother for that long and uh,
you know, and I really I run them the idea
by Drew and doctor Drew.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Says, wow do I hate that?

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
And he says just he says like, no, you're gonna
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
So just like let me tell you, like like be
really careful, like if you feel yourself becoming paralyzed above
the waist, because like sometimes the stuff can back up
and then like if that happens, like you're gonna have
like systems shut down, you know, like.

Speaker 6 (01:27:22):
Well not like your respiratory system, you might shut down,
stop reading or something that's where.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
They intubate you. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Wow, Okay, And uh and I'm like yeah, sure, you
know what, like I'm gonna do it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
You know, how do you get yourself psyched up to
do something like this? I just like, uh, is it just.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Just yeah, Like I don't like anything about it, but
I just know that, Like I gotta have the footage so.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
You hear about the product. Yeah, Like I don't fucking
the catalog of your life like one more stunt, one more.
It's building what you've done too.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Yeah, it's a bumber, Like the bar had to be raised.
I had. That's what I had to do with this show.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
And and then like what you know, so once I
go down, like all of a sudden, I can't fucking
feel my chance. I can't feel anything out to my chin,
and I'm like I genuinely feel like I can't fucking breathe.
I'm like I'm having trouble breathing. And I'm like I'm
trying so hard, like to even be able to say

(01:28:24):
I'm having trouble breathing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
It's like so much work.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Like I was more scared than I've been Like I'm
not gonna say maybe ever, but fucking in a long time,
and and like and the whole plan is for my
buddies to be conducting experiments to determine how paralyzed I am.
Like if I'm really paralyzed, I'm like, you know, like
my one guy's like.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Can you feel your legs? And my other Budy's like
can you feel this?

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
So it's like dark and it's fucked up and it's
so fucking just ridiculous that it's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
And after that bit, like I'm laying there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
And I just start sobbing, dude, real, like fucking just crying,
and like this weird doctor guy who who put the
needle in my back showed no emotion until I started crying.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
And then he's just like confused.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
He's like, like, what's going on because I'm sobbing and
I and through my tears, I say, the bar for
my stunts is so high, and that was your first
I fucking raised it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Man, You're like myself so hard.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
I'm just like, the bar is so high, we raised it,
and I'm just so tears of joy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Man, for real, I respect the hell out of that
for what it's worth, because it's like, and that's.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Not even the most shocking fucking thing in the show either.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Like you know, like I I really really I'm fucking
proud of how wildly fucked up this show.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
It's like I had this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Like delusional idea that if I partnered with the.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Director of Jackass, Jeff Tremaine, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Somehow like if if I went into Netflix and they
could say, like from the director of Jackass, shit that
was too fucked up for Jackass, like too hot for Jackass,
like Steve O, you know that like maybe they would

(01:30:27):
just somehow overlook the fact of like semen flying.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
You know, like maybe they would like somehow be okay
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
And uh So I brought Jeff over and showed him
like an early like recording of my live show with
all of the multimedia baked into it, and he says, uh, man,
I got to congratulate to Steve, You've really outdone yourself.
But this isn't going anywhere near Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
And he's like this, this is so fucked.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
Up from start to finish. I don't even see parts
of it that could go on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Like wow, And uh it's like a point of pride.
I've never heard of people passing out at Jackars.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
Yeah, they're passing out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
There's like there's like three culprits that that make people
pass out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
And I know, it's like really weird. It's not like
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
People, but like in a theater of a thousand people,
like we're gonna average like the most that ever passed
out was like.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Eleven people and a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
And then there's then there's some shows where nobody does
you know, Like so I would say we averaged at
least one person per show.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
At the taping, there were like eight people.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
There's a visceral reaction here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Whatever it's it's like, I don't know, like one in
seven hundred and fifty people or something, maybe one in
five hundred people.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
I mean, dude, it's like I never wanted that to happen.
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
I did want it to happen at the taping because
I had made such a big deal out of it,
and I.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
Was just so glad that I'm so glad that it did.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
But I knew people were gonna accuse me of like
planting because I couldn't write.

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
I could not have.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Planted this one fucking dude, second row, second seat in
from the center aisle. He tries to work his way
out and passes out as he's trying to get by
his buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
Lands on his face and slides on his fucking face
across the center aisle, like just laid laid out right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
In front of me, in front of the stage at
the taping, and I just thought, I was like, fucking, hey, dude,
they're gonna they're gonna accuse me of fucking playing. They're
gonna say, they're gonna they're gonna say.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
And I saw a fucking comment on on social.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Media a cap hired people to have hired actors to pass.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
No, I've never fucking deceived my audience period.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
If I do that, If I fucking deceived my audience once, then.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Then it's all over. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Yeah, and I'll tell I'll tell anybody anywhere, like what
was faked?

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
They were fucking precious. Fuck me, Wild Boys.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
We were totally liberal about the geography of where things happened.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
We lied a lot on Wild Boys.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Like we're in a back lot, We're not or where
were you?

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
We uh Like like when we went to Africa with
the two man zebra suit, we brought it on Safari.
We're trying to get footage with lions in a two
man zebra suit. Yeah, and like like absolute fucking lutely
nobody is. They're like they're like, no, you're not, you know,
And so we had all this great footage like on

(01:33:57):
Safari with like different zebras and other we had everything
except the closing shot. And so they had this, uh
this this company called like Hollywood Animals in California and
they had like like like whenever we're doing fucked up
ship with lions, like you know where they were actually
in California with this doesn't make.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
It safe, yes, just a little bit safer.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
I recently put a video on my YouTube channel called
ten Times We Could Have Died, completely transparent about the
fact that the lions were in California didn't stop him
from climbing up the goddamn tree.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
So line, Yeah, I asked Siegfried and Roy about that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Yeah, and uh and then like outside of that, like
the there was one thing, the butt shug in Jackass
number two totally real.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
When that like it's it's real.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
The like in the tube you can see the the
level of beer going down. But when Bam runs over
and and and jams the plunger into my butt, there
was beer port into that plunger like off camera.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Yeah, yeah, it looked a little bit like but that's
right into yours.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
I don't even know like that was like that, I
mean it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Was Bell Whistle's I'm a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Shocked that they even, you know, that did that slid,
you know, because the like the respect for integrity on
Jackass is so like high level that like I'm surprised
that they even did that. And and other than that,
the like the opening sequences, like and when we're coming

(01:35:39):
through down the bridge on uh in the opening sequence
of the first movie, and there's like the these cannons right,
like that's like cork being shot out of you know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Opening sequences.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
You get like a little bit of you know, like
we give ourselves leeway to make the opening sequence just
so like cinematic particular right right, But there's no like
deception going on in the opening sequence of this bucketless show.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Yeah, I've got is there a Jackass esque open, dude?

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
I take opening sequences seriously as fine.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
I mean they're like you guys have always killed them,
and I love seeing the cinematic version of this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
I was like, like, for me to to start this
third comedy special, like I want it to be like
a magnificent way that I get to the theater. So
I want to be on the on a roof and
a helicopter fucking drops a rope ladder. I grab the
rope ladder and I'm flying all around.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
Like through electrical cables.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
It's like dipped in the fucking you know this, And
then like I want to like let go of the
rope ladder and drop from the helicopter onto the roof
of my moving tour bus so then the tour bus
can deliver me to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
And Bill Burr's flying the helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
We uh shot.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Insert shots of Bill Bird flying a helicopter that we
cut in.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
You know, he wasn't plying the actual one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
On the day of the stunts, I had a safety
line up through my shirt like clipping me to the ladder.
I was on that fucking ladder. Oh god damn day
flying around on a helicopter if hypothetically I let go
or like I was attached to the ladder, But that
didn't help me for nothing when it's my job to
lit go with the ladder and land on the bus man.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
So that's that was sketchy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
And when I go through the electrical wire, the telephone
wire and all the sparks fucking go crazy, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Pretty rare epic.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Yeah, they did me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
They dip me in like a like a lake and
Bill Burt's like, oh, sorry, buddy, So I'm at now,
I'm now, I'm soaking wet.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
To go through the electrical wire, which is nice, is awesome,
and apparently like the like the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Phone company came in installed special telephone polls and wires
and whatever they call the transmitters there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Like the transformer transce.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Box, transformer, I think transformer box.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
And there was like a Pyro special effects guy who
set the charges for when I go through the wire.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Wow, that's only the opening sequence.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
There's zero fucking deception when it comes to audience members
passing out.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
I'm not fucking faking reactions.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
That's some fucking fake YouTuber prank shit that I would
not wish.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
There's a lot of right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Not me, dude, And there's no fucking trickery when I've
got the gen and when i'm generally anesthesia bike ride,
I believe you.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
Yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Pretty fucking obvious that that that I don't fake shit.
But but yeah, it's all in this this epic special
and and uh, it's a love story about me and
my girl and just me doing the fucking most over
the top fucked up shit. It's all of my world's
converging into one and yeah, like jackass me its stand
up and it's like cool, yeah now I've.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
Been I'm a thirteen year stand up now.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Like yeah yeah, like let yeah, I earned my stripes, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
And I want to say this to your listeners. Fuck
everybody who.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
Just with their fucking community guidelines. Oh no, we can't
go there. Fuck everybody who fucking doesn't. Who made me
fucking put this out myself on my website. I want
Netflix to know that their Puss season they fucked up.

(01:39:48):
Because I want this what I'm doing to be successful.
I guarantee your listeners that there they will not be
disappointed in the slightest. This is absolutely the highest level
of performance art. It blows away anything I've ever done
in my career. You will not be disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
And by going to stevo dot com to watch this,
like you will have a seamless experience even like I
partnered with Moment so when you did the checkout somehow
you can watch this unbelievable filth and and have express
checkout like one click PayPal, one click Apple pay perfect.
Yeah I don't even know how that's It's not like

(01:40:33):
a big investment, but it is a huge, huge, It's
not a big investment, it's a huge fuck you to
Netflix and if for this to be successful is a
big deal for me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
I'm super pumped to see it. Are you? Are you
proud of the results?

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
I could not be more proud of Hell yes, yeah,
I literally worked on this for well over five years.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Also, it's a culmination of all the things you've done, like, yeah,
new part of your story here, the new chapter story.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
And each one of my specials like the like the Improvement.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
I'm really glad that first one's out there just as
as a mile marker of where I was then and
how far I've come to now, you know, from from
the first to the second to the third, Like the
Improvement is is really really staggering.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Through all this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Like because you're a stevo, do people ask you to
do crazy shit sometimes just like hey, will you do this?

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
I just got on on the cameo platform purely to
donate one hundred percent of everything that I raise to
a buddy of mine with a disability who's trying to
buy a van, and.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
You know I wanted to be able to get in.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Yeah, I want him to go drive around getting his
dig sucked in a vanvan for that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Yeah, And like last night I was like, there was
like a cameo.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
I think, yo, dude, I want you to do something
really awesome like a Mangina backflip off escape and I
was I was like, you know what, buddy, no thanks man,
not on cameo.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
Yeah, it would be yeah, it probably would be. Yeah,
I don't know, like, uh, it's all good man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Well if I asked you to do something right now,
would you do it? You consider it depends on what
it is. Would you sign something for me? I love to?

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Okay, I got a special autograph that looks like a dick.
I call it a dick a graph.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
That's fine. Uh do you know how to draw it? Do? I?

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
No way, I thought that looked like some tattoo ship
over there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
It is all right, let's fucking go you do.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
I'm super down. You got the old school of fucking
salty dog coil version to use one of these things
I do, man, And I actually got licensed as a tattoo.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
It's okay. You saw that tat you had where you
were writing in the hummer with the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Yeah, that shit still cracks me up to this.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Stet should I do have to get this done in
eight minutes whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
That's Yeah, there'll be a smaller penis a right wherever
You're just nothing racist right here?

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
How about resign off?

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Will send everybody to steabo dot com to support the
bucket list special check out like the trailer if you
want to see how it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
So fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
Man, I'm pumped.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
I appreciate everybody's support. And now we're going to do
a tattoo.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Nope, yeah, it is a dicograph. It is.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
It's not a super erasive.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
You said your ore life, that is right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
It's like the one time I can get away with
a dick tattoo on my arm?

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
What asshole gave you this? So my stea bo gave
it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
It's not the most aggressive, not going.

Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
In, it's it's definitely going out. What's the story behind
the dicograph?

Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
I practiced my autograph for years before anybody ever wanted it,
and people.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
Started wanting it in year two thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:44:25):
But it was.

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
Twenty fourteen when this.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
Guy says, dude, the last time you came to this
comleague club, you fucking tattooed me. I got your signature tattooed,
and it's a fucking dick. And he shared man's arm
and I could see it, and I was like, man,
it was right there the whole fucking time. I had

(01:44:52):
no idea I was drawing a dick. Every time I
did my signature.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
You were subconsciously drawing it dick.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
I just it was just sitting right there, and for
fourteen fucking years, and then after twenty fourteen, I started
really leaning into it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
It's looking pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
Yeah, I've never done my signature that's outlined before.

Speaker 6 (01:45:24):
This isn't permanent, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
It feels very permanent.

Speaker 6 (01:45:34):
I mean that's white yacks.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
It's such a motherfucker like like, wouldn't you do anything
you got any white man like about.

Speaker 6 (01:45:46):
Time?

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
But it's pretty good. I like this. It's like a symbol. Yeah,
but it's like, no, it's actually a penis if you
look closer.

Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Steve O's wild. He lived up to the hype. The
whole tattoo idea. It originated on the plane ride to
la We were recording the interview the next day, and
last minute, Mike here actually had the idea of what
if he gave you a tattoo? That sounds cool, How
the hell do we actually pull that off if we

(01:46:35):
wanted to do that. I'm thinking, okay, well, if we're
going to do that at all, we would technically need
a tattoo guy on standby in the Airbnb that we're
recording in, just in case he says yes, right, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:50):
I honestly was not sure you could pull it off.
I was like, how we're landing, Yeah, well we were
doing the interview the next day, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
We probably landed at ten pm. The interview was at
noon the next day.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
So on the plane, I posted on Instagram like, Hey,
any tattoo artists in the LA area who want to
come to my airbnb tomorrow? I mean, thankfully actually some
people hit me back, and by a miracle, we were
able to find somebody. He was clutch, came in the clutch,
and the way we set it up was I didn't
know for sure whether Steve Hall would want to do this. Also,

(01:47:23):
it's kind of a big ask. If he's like, hey, man,
I don't feel like tattooing your arm, That's totally fine.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I get it. But if you're down.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
We're set up right here, and so STEVEA didn't know
we were going to do this at all.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Thank you for obliging. That was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
It's healed nicely and I'll show you in a second.
But I will say I have like seven eight tattoos
on my arm. This tattoo hurt, like shit, I mean
he did, Stevelle, you did an amazing job. It's amazing job.
Well away, right, yeah, there's no takebacks. This is here
to stay. But it really did genuinely hurt. I don't

(01:48:01):
know if you can see it in my face. I
was like, ooh, okay, maybe you shouldn't have done it
so big. And also my original pant was, you know,
to do it kind of smaller. I had a little
patch of skin in between two other tattoos. I was like, hey, like,
you know, maybe play it right here, and he just
grabs my arm, takes a sharpie and draws it really
kind of bigger than I thought, right there on my
upper arm. Okay, that works too, and he went right

(01:48:24):
in with it. So it's my most painful tattoo. It
looks kind of like a penis. But the cool thing
is when someone goes, yeah, what's that tattoo. I get
to say, I don't know, man, just Steve O gave
it to me, all right, kind of cool, kind of cool.
I was willing to let him draw an actual penis

(01:48:45):
on my arm. I was hoping it wasn't going to be.
But it's less folic than it could have been, so
I appreciate that it's sealed nicely. I'll show I'll show
you what it looks like now. It kind of looks
like a weird symbol. It kind of reminds me of
a like a old nineties skate brand logo. What are

(01:49:05):
those big baggy jean pants Jenks, Chinkos, Jinko's.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Yeah, I think it means gene company, right, but I
don't know. Jinko is what everybody said. Yeah, it has
been a no fear to it, no fear or dare
kind of I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
It looks like some like some symbol that represents something
maybe deeper than it does. But once you you know,
once you see the penis, you can't really unsee it.
But hey, I have no regrets. I I was willing
to sacrifice this little slot of my arm for the show, right,

(01:49:40):
for all of you, for all Yeah, for you guys. Yep,
just don't put anything efensive there. You know, I'll take
anything else. Steve O was awesome. I had a blast
talking to him. I really appreciate his time.

Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
Super cool, humble, and he was running late and he
gave you a tattoo.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
Yeah, I don't know if we cut that part out,
but when he did agree to do the tattoo, he's like,
well I got seven minutes. I'm like, all right, cool,
I'm about to get a rushed tattoo on the whim
from Steve O at his mercy.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
And he's stuck around for a lot longer than he did. No,
he was he was super cool. He has a new
special out now. It's it's hilarious, it's wild. I was
getting pumped as he was describing it in the interview.
Just do us a favor, go support his new content.
It's crazy, wild, hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
People are actually literally passing out in the stands. Not
even a gimmick, not some joke. There's some stuff in
there that might make you go, oh God, why am
I watching this?

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
But you should. It's good for you. It's makes you stronger.

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
We do have to say it's X rated most likely
and Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
It's like it's like the it's unrated, which means that
there's no rating. That is the equivalent of how inappropriate
this gets.

Speaker 5 (01:51:02):
So watch with caution, obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
I mean the fact that he's Steve O and he's
famous and no other distributor would take this tells you
how wild it really is. I want of thanks Stevo
for his time. I really appreciate that Episode two of
this show is actually out now as well. One of
my good friends, Clara McGregor, she's hilarious, She's an amazing actress.

(01:51:28):
She sat down with me and we shot the shit
for an hour and I learned so much about being
an actress, growing up with a famous dad, how other
people are handling life right. And she had some amazing
insights on navigating the entertainment world and just being true

(01:51:49):
to yourself, which I respect the hell out of. So
if you liked this and it wasn't too much for you,
we're going to do a big pivot.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Clara McGregor.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
Episode is out now and I think you'll really enjoy it.
Thanks for listening to talking to dus. You can follow
me pay Lindzy on social media. Instagram is at payin
Lindsey and just like TikTok, my TikTok is actually pain Lindsey.
It's not my desired user name. There is actually a
guy camped out on that TikTok and he has intentionally

(01:52:20):
locked it up because if you look at the email
address under like in the bio of the Pain Lindsey TikTok,
there's an email that says like social settlers at gmail
dot com and like a locked emoji, clearly saying hey,
if you want this, email me, well, I've emailed him
for two years straight no reply. If this is your game,

(01:52:42):
if this is the business that you're in, just name
the price.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
I mean, hopefully this guy is okay, all right, I mean, like,
is he is he missing? Is he did he die?
I mean that would suck, but maybe I still get
the handle. I hope he's fine. But also if you
just google the email address, you'll see tons of other
people like name brands and stuff who've posted what you'd

(01:53:11):
think would be our official account isn't because this guy's
holding on to it. I mean, at least, if you're
gonna do this, have better customer service. Seriously, email me back.
I'll pay you for the handle, but until then, actually
Pain Lindsey and everything for the show is going to

(01:53:33):
be at talkingdodeathpodcast dot com. Stay tuned next week for
a really exciting guest and go listen to episode two now.
If you had any fun at all, cheers.

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
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