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February 12, 2024 39 mins

Country star Adam Doleac joins Jana and her Queendom to get real about balancing a music career with a relationship and how to stay motivated and passionate about life.

Adam is a dad-to-be, so he NEEDS some parenting advice! 

And… a round of “lice lice baby”. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, hi guys, hi girls, would you like to come
in with what you just came in with? No, No,
We're going to take a minute to process a process
and everyone's safe and fine. Okay, all right, anything, Well,
I have an update.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Okay, I don't know you're there.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I feel like I have to. I don't ever peer
pressure you, but I feel like you have to because
the amount of questions I'm getting and it's not even
me right, okay, well, like inquiring minds, I'd like to know. Okay, Well,
so I figured out why my scalp was a ching.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I want to know first of all, before you say it.
Did a lot of people guess this zero? Wow, that's
brot one DM. Did I get that one? Which is
crazy and people are invested?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? Yes, So let's roll the tape back. So I
went to started itching on December sixteenth, seventeenth is what
I could trace it back to. It was because it
was afore Allen's parents came in town for Christmas, and
then I remember when they were here, I was like, God,

(01:31):
I can't sap, scratching my head. So then I tracked
back a little more okay. Uh Like, then I went
to my dermatologist. She's like, I see nothing on your scalp.
Your scalp as completely clear, no dan driff no, nothing
like You're like, no lice nothing. I'm like, okay, don't
have that. So then she's like, it could be you know,

(01:53):
then I thought was scabies. Then we thought it was
like you thought it was a lot of things. I
thought it was a lot of things, a lot of dying.
I need to google. Connected her with Nate and the text,
and I said, for what it's worth, I need you
to not google and Nate. I need her in as
quickly as she can get in. Well, I'm pretty convinced.
I thought I had MS too, which I didn't know.

(02:14):
If you wanted to share that, I'm not going to
like completely bust you, but you did.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
She thought she had MS from the itchy scalpers all
like that.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Have so many things like it's like my eyes are blurry.
So then I started putting all the symptoms together, and
all of them sure lead me to really bad things,
which freaked me out. There's a positive to all of this.
I just want to say there's a I'm really glad
I went down this train because I didn't, I wouldn't
have realized a few of mothers. She said, I'm going

(02:45):
happening and I'll tell you which I had no idea about,
which Nate thinks it's because of the baby. But anyways, okay,
so itching, itching, itching, and then I go and to
see Nate and your extensions out. I mean, hello, you
switch shampoos, I mean everything, So trying to figure out
what it was right, so, but mainly like the scalp

(03:07):
was driving me nuts, so got on a bunch of supplements,
YadA YadA. So then I have a birthday party for
Jolie where it was her eighth birthday party, and they
it's like this little mobile fairy thing and they come
over and they do their hair, they do their makeup,
and you missed it. It was really cute. I know,
I saw it was cute. Love was sick, right, and

(03:29):
then she gave it to the baby. Oh bummer. Sleep
Lesson Nashville is the name of the game. That's the worst. Okay,
I mean she I'm talking about But anyways, so you know,
it's such a cute party. It was. The girls looked adorable,
but the very end of the party, the lady goes,

(03:51):
I have some bad news, and I was like, okay,
like what's Like, what's wrong. She's like a few of
the girls had lice, and I was like, oh, that's disgusting.
I was like that is so gross. I was like
ew who, like just kind of like a little judge.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I'm gonna pin this for a second.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
And so I was like gross, Like who, I love
your honesty because I was like, I know how you reacted,
but I needed it's gross. Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Can we go back to a few days before that?
So you were judging, okay, I judging you.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's it's gross. Life is gross.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Okay, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Like I'm not judging our child. I'm just saying like
it's gross. I mean like, it's disgusting.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
It is.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
So I'm like, oh, gross, who and so because life
is gross? And so she's like and I'm not going
to name the other kids, but she's like she said
a few kids and then like couldn't spit it out,
and I'm like who. She's like Jollie and I was like, oh,

(05:00):
I got it, okay. And so I like go upstairs, Uh,
this is like after the party or whatever, and I'm like, baby, girl,
have you know? And she's been itching but not crazy,
you know, So I said to her, you know what's
let me can I just look in your hair really fast?
And then I saw some and I was like, like
out of my skin crawling. The other mom's kid that

(05:20):
had it too, we made an appointment to go together
and uh, I wasn't actually going to bring jas, but
I did because right before we left, I was like, baby,
let me just check your hair really fast. And I
looked and there was I saw one in there and
I was like, get in the car immediately, please please
put on this pod? Can pass? Please kindly get.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
In the car.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I would like to hear. And I was like, and go.
But I checked my hair. I was like, Alan, can
you look through my hair? He's like, I don't see anything.
So I'm like, this is just so strange. So when
I go there, I'm like, well, I'm obviously going to
get checked because I've been having crazy scalp itching. So
lo and behold I head lice. That is why my
sculf was it ching. So so did Jay, so did Jolie.

(06:05):
But here's here's the like deep dive that I'm really
happy with. Through all of this doing blood work and everything.
Because I sat down with Nate. He was like, you
are so hormonally messed up. He's like, your thyroid is awful.
He's like, which is you're gonna probably if you don't
get this, Like you'll start gaining weight because it's like
the way your thyroid is working. He's like, it's it's

(06:26):
the wrong way. He's like, so you'll start to gain weight.
Your estrogen, your testosterone obviously, like I talked about last episode,
is really low. And he goes and also he's like,
you're you have an you're allergic to soy. And I'm like,
oh my god. I was like, I had at a
mommy the other night and I remember scratching, oh wow randomly.
Now I have a soy a reaction allergy. Wow. So

(06:48):
I cannot eat soy anymore, which is also pretty common postpartum.
Really interesting, so soy and estrogen are linked. Ish, oh whoa,
and so I I also I did the food sensitivity.
I've been in the deep deep Yeah, and soy comes
up for me too, And that sucks because we love

(07:11):
like sushi, Asian anything. Yeah, we can slay sushi. Yeah,
And I don't like soy sauce. Oh, I do. But
the problem is is soy is in everything that I eat.
And also the other thing too that I'm not allowed
to eat anymore is munk fruit, which is in all
my protein bars, which is in oh it's on my
severe like I can never have it again. It's in

(07:31):
all of my protein powders.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That's so random, and which is protein.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Which causes the gut, the leaky gut, all of that stuff.
So now I've like deep dove and all that, and
then like my cortisols are like super off. And he's like,
I don't know how You're not like sleeping in a
bed right now all day. He's like, you are, just
like it's so bad. So I'm like, I'm so grateful
that I went down this to like find this out.
But the itching was the lice disgusting.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's just so crazy. So rewind too, But how does
the dermatologists find it?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, so I call her. She's like what what? She's like,
I didn't see anything. I'm like, well they were there.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Rewind of four or five days before that, you know,
obviously Emmy had been itching also. We talked about that
on here. I was like, if you figure it out. Well,
I got a call when we were working out from
the nurse. This was days before it happened to her,
and they were like, you need to come get Ramsey.
She has lice. And I was like, oh my god,
Emmy does have lice, like I've been looking, that's it.
So we go. So that's where I go back to

(08:29):
you were judging.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm not judging. I'm judging the lights.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
And it's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Is there a pr rep for life anyway?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
And no one wants to talk about it because everyone
has it, but no one else to talk about it
because it's gross. But anyway, so I took Ramsey.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Either of you dealt with this before, because I know.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Amy had to deal Emmy. I got a call from
the nurse for Emmy when she was probably in second
or third grade, and I really freaked out then, like
I literally was disgusting. But they told me neither. But
they told me then how common it is and people
just don't talk about it, you know. So so I
Ramsey get her or whatever, and then we do this
party and I'm like, dear lord, she's getting rechecked today

(09:05):
because I'm like, she was around.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Everyone and newslash. So we texted all the moms and
I was like, hey, just f yi, Joly had lice
and a few other girls headlights. You should maybe get
your dar checked. Everyone but two head lice that were
at the party.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
And it's probably Ramsey was probably one of them. But
she had already had it.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
So I would like to thank you Jesus for the
congestion they kept me home from the party. Yeah, but
they've already had it though, which is as wild. It's
like they didn't get it from the party. Well I know,
but right, wouldn't someone anyway? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh yeah, but side note to all that, and he
didn't have it, so I still haven't figured her out.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
So you should do a food sensitive sensitivity test for her. Yeah,
it's because it's it's very wild. Yeah, it does, and
it ruins like postpartum were so susceptible because our immune
is our immunity is down, our thyroids are taxed, our
adrenal glands are taxed. Oh that's what you said. He's like, you,
your adrenal glands are just like awful. So I'm on
like fifty million different supplements. But he's like, it's only

(09:58):
temporary for the eight next, like eight weeks until you
get everything back up. Yes, I had to order.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Allt it all started coming in today.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I was like fifteen to twenty supplements. But he's like,
it's only for guys. He's changing my life. Yeah, like
I have energy. I cannot wait for all of those
things to start happening. It's happened, Like it's good. He's incredible. Yeah.
So I mean it's just one of those things where
you know, I'm glad I went down the rabbit hole.
I'm glad. It was just the life for the scratching

(10:27):
and hopefully everything else can kind of fall into place.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
My favorite was the text from the other person that
you were there with, because I was like, I just
need to know if Jana has it, like she has
to have it, and then the other person was like,
she's crying, she's so happy.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I was really I was crying, Oh you're dying. I
was like, thank you so much. So it was a
funny thing because it was it was driving me mad.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And it's easily taken care of. Yes, So it's.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm just blown away that anyone else saw it before
this well, because I said I got checked and it
wasn't there, so then that's why I also, no one said.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
But I mean I have checked Ramsey like two or
three times. I was like, she does not have it.
Nurse calls, and then as soon as they say she
has lights, I look at her head. I'm like, oh
there they are like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I got to be honest, I don't even think I
know what I'm looking for.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, having said that, Ramsey didn't have it very long,
but just.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Google it and look, I could not google anyway.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I actually it's like, you know you can tell.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
But I will say, but that has been solved, mystery solved,
and I will report back on all the supplements. But
I will say when I was going through my severe
list and then things that I shouldn't have, I was like,
I don't know what to eat because I eat it's
they're all on there.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I didn't do the food one sab same and.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's my favorite to have almonds, avocado, eggs, eggs. I
have all those butt eggs I get to eat and
I don't eat meat. So I'm like, well, yeah, it's
been something. So anyways, I'm over. We're back on that.
But the scratching go get your head jacked. My dermatologist
was like, I'm gonna either if I don't see anything,
I'm going to have people go to an actual life place.

(12:07):
And I'm like, that's best.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well because of that comb. Yeah, I really think that
that's it.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I wish you guys could see Catherine's hands because it
looks like the comb is great. It's the key to
really figuring that all the time. Now on ONOBA, this
season is called life Lights Baby.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
And hey, there are plenty moms out there that are like, yeah,
I feel better because my kids had it too.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Exactly. All right, We're going to take a quick little
lice break, and then we're going to get Adam on,
who is an American country singer. He's got a song
out called Ain't She. We're going to talk about touring,
We're going to talk about soon to be dad life,
and uh, we'll get a month, but let's first take
a break.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
What's up y'all? Hi?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Adam?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Wait, this is obviously your wife in the famous music video.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well if she's in it, but that also might be
Cassie Randolph because Colton and Cassie were in that video.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh that's that, so maybe well not to I love Cassie.
I did a movie with Cassie. But now I'm just
that just registered in my brain.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Sorry, no, it's funny you say that.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I actually texted Colton probably I don't know, three months
ago and I was like, hey, man, what if we
add one scene to this video and at the end,
when you're walking out of the grocery store, you just
walk out and you see you get in the car
with Jordan or something. We just had one scene to
the video because it didn't age well at all.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Age, Well neither does my book The Good Fight. So
whatever with my ex husband, so you know his musical influences,
John Mayer, and there was a few listed.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
What do you see?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, your jobs. That's great, Adam. Than to bring that up,
HI show that is wind down. How are you welcome
to the story house, Adam. We're glad to have you, Adam.
How long? How long were you grinding in Nashville?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Still currently grinding in Nashville?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
If you tell me one year, I'm going to just
get really no, not at all.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I was.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean I've been here for about ten years now,
so everybody A common question and interviews is when was
the moment that you made it or when did you
know you made it? And my answer is always like
I'm still waiting on it.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
I don't know. I mean, it was like a constant,
you know, it got a little bit better all the time.
It's still doing it.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's just been a constant, steady getting a little bit
better every year. So there hasn't been like a just
one thing that made it. It's just been kind of
slowly grounded the whole time.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
You know what, There is something so to that, because
it's never at least when I was doing country radio
or country music, you just never felt safe. You know.
It's like why you want to you know, was obviously
top three on the charts. Got the Boy was top three,
but it's like, but then the next one would not
do great. It would be like twenties thirties, and you're

(15:08):
like not safe, it's over, everything's over. And then it's
just you don't ever really get comfortable until you're that
one percent. I guess that that's no matter what you
put out, there is a number one, you know, and
that's that's the hard piece because it's like you can
never really get comfortable, which I think is a good thing,
but also that's the struggle and the balance with doing

(15:29):
what you love right. We would like to feel comfortable
in my house, just I mean, I think I think
everyone would love to be comfortable. But then it's like,
then what are you striving for if you when you
get comfortable? And I think that's the piece that I
always remind myself of. It's like, all right, so when
you have everything you want, you're always gonna want something
more than that.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, I think that's been the biggest thing for me
is just first of all, I mean this is I
think we had songs on the radio about the same
time because I had Famous That was twenty nineteen going
into twenty I think I know we're on Serious XM
at the same time at least I remember that.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
But yeah, I think that.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
And since then, so many people have been added and
TikTok's been added, and there's just so much, so much music,
so many faces on Instagram. It's really hard to you know,
if you try to keep up with everybody, you're kind
of in trouble. And so for me, I've just kind
of leaned in on just trying to be Adam Doleiak,
just trying to sound like Adam doliak and not chasing.
You know, I feel like everybody's trying to sound like

(16:28):
Morgan Wallin right now. I feel like everybody just kind
of chases the next thing. And I think I realized
a little while ago, like I.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Love what I do.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I'm really lucky to get to do what I do
and only that, Like I make music and play music
for a living and can make a good living and
support my family, which is really cool. And when I started,
that was the dream, right Like if I if I
just told myself I was right where I am right now,
when I started, i'd been like, sweet, that's great. So
just leaning into that, and you're right, it's always it's

(16:56):
hard to get comfy. And I agree with you, like
we would love to feel completely comfort like we were
in the one percent of Morgan Wallen or something, but
that's just hard to do.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
And so.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I think just taking it day by day and continuing
to make music that I love and do things that
I love has been the most important.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Thing for me.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
And I kind of learned all that during COVID, which
was a terrible thing but allowed me to actually slow down.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm the type
that just kind of never stops. I work, I work,
I love working, but I never really slow down. And
that let me do that and so I kind of
learned a lot about myself in that and it's helped
the last few years for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
And you have a baby on the way. Is it
your first?

Speaker 4 (17:34):
It's our first? I saw all of you have three?
Is that is that right?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah? Correct?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, so this is this is our first. She's due
early in March, and yeah, any advice you guys want
to get made.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Of time.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I actually just need her phone number directly because I'm
the wife of the artist and so that's the piece
where I need to we need to connect. I mean,
and I will say, we'll give you some good advice.
But I think once you have that baby too, how
you do your career and you're gonna I mean, it's

(18:12):
just your why becomes a totally totally different why, you know,
and the purpose that you have is is uh, I'll say,
how do I say this for me? Once I had kids,
I'm like, Okay, this is not the most important thing
anymore music or acting or it's like it's my kids,
and your purpose kind of shifts a little bit, which

(18:33):
is it's a weird it's it's a cool feeling, but
it's it's definitely different.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I feel like, obviously everybody I talked to right now,
us having a kid comes up, and so everybody kind
of gives you these little pieces of advice or these
little slogans or things to be scared of. And so
one thing I get a lot is, well, you know,
it's normally guys, and I'm like, we'll get ready to
have no time for yourself and that actually I think

(18:58):
it's I think it's intended to scare me, but it
actually kind of excites me. I mean, I feel like,
I mean, I'm thirty five, and I've done a lot
of played college baseball and then moved into the music world,
and I've kind of done a lot of me things,
right like, every my life has revolved around me for
kind of long enough, if that makes sense, And so
I'm actually a little bit excited for that flip and

(19:18):
to have a different why and a different purpose and
so and we haven't even had our child yet and
I'm already feeling that.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
So I know, I know it's coming, but I'm kind
of excited about that.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I might but it's a boy.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Sure, yeah, it's a boy.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, okay, king best piece of advice you can give
him as a new daddy.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh my gosh, that's so hard.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm like, I got a list. I think it's probably
I just had a baby life's phone number.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I'm out of the baby stage. Mine are older, so
mine has just shifted so much. You know, like if
I go back to like baby stage, it's like, you know,
sleep and you can you know, it's like all the
obvious stuff. But gosh, the best advice I think is
like getting so caught up in a single moment. Like
it's like you, Kristen, were a little stressed earlier about

(20:05):
something with your child, Like that will pass. It's just
it's a moment. Look at the bigger picture. What is
the bigger picture. What's the biggest goal for your children?
That's one thing I've really just been having to learn.
But that's kind of like a bigger.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Picture than like the d dat nights won't last, Like
that will not last, Like that's over, that's not in
my life.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Like my kids go to their rims on their own
and they're in their rims. I'm like, all right, did
anyone go to sleep or like good night, you know.
I mean, it just changes so much.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Right, and as a new dad, I know, you're on
the road probably a lot, and you're going off on
tour and all those things. But the one thing that
my fiance did for me that was just I thought
was the sweetest, most incredible thing was because I had
a C section, And even so, I think he would
have still done this, but he would not let me

(20:54):
get up in the middle of the night to feed
the baby like I did a couple times, but like
he was always like, you need you need rest, you
need to you know, you're the mother, Like you need
to have sleep and you need to be you know,
be okay. And so the fact that he he did
primarily the middle of the night shifts so that I
could recover, I thought was like such a beautiful thing. So, yeah, yeah,

(21:16):
that did not happen at my house for how long?
You didn't almost in the entire time. I mean I'd
get up a couple times. But I mean, why he
was the mother Oh okay, yeah, because he's sleeping through
the night. Now yeah, well yeah, now we're sleeping through
the night. He's two months, almost three months, and now
I was sleeping through the night, but sleep train. And

(21:38):
my advice is really simple, maybe too simple. I don't
have advice because I think God gives you the people
that are meant for you specifically. So this little puzzle
piece boy that's coming, you already know instinctually how to handle,
what to do. My advice would just be to trust yourself,

(21:59):
you gut, and each other. It's not as complicated as
people love to make you feel. There's so many opinions,
and I think I used. I started to get worn out.
I was pregnant with our daughter. My husband his first
single actually like went up the charts and he was
gone gone, like right gone, and there was so much
advice coming at me, and I'm like, all I know

(22:20):
to do right now is kind of like hunker and
just hear each other's heartbeat and try to figure this out.
So I think you're already more than qualified. And I
just hope you get to enjoy it because it does.
I know everyone tells you goes fast. It's like crazy fast,
and I'm trying to freeze the third one because I
know better and it's still fast. Right, Wait, when do
you go on tour? Adam?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well, I was going to tell you guys. So we March,
we were supposed to do in March, start we're supposed
to start. We did our best to kind of schedule.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
We originally had like six shows scheduled and then a
six week break and then more shows after that. And
something that's been really heavy on me and my wife's
mind is just an actually hers is I was supposed
to be on tour for the really up until the
last week of her pregnancy kind of situation. And we actually,
right before I hopped on this call, actually I announced

(23:11):
that we are actually going to pick up the first
six shows and move them to the back of the tour,
and so the tour is actually going to start April
twenty fifth in Boston now. And that was again just
kind of being with her and us getting together and
talking with it, something that just brought her a lot
of peace knowing that I would be here, we won't
have to worry about me being in Rootstown, Ohio and
getting a call that she's going into labor.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Just that peace of mind of having that we actually
just decided to do that and move the tour.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
So just a good example of kind of making work
still still work, but keeping family first. I think and
so that's been kind of a big weight off of
both of our shoulders.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
So well, I'm buying all your songs because I just
have that, like you're putting your marriage and your wife
and all of that at peace, and just I just
love that. Now I'm work will still be a fan.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Work will still be Yeah, and like you said, you
can put it in there.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, they're getting rescheduled and they'll be better because I'll
have my little buddy with me at the shows now,
and so it'll it'll be it'll be a good time.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
But yeah, it was. It was a big deep breath
for her for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Kristen. Does that make you a little bitter like angry
and I ate bitter like little a little little angry angry, No,
no it doesn't. We we're in the duo. So my
husband's half of low Cash.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, I know your husband.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, I know he knows you, but I didn't know
if you like you know. Yeah, here, I'm just KB.
So I just kick at KB style. But we you know,
those guys have been doing this for like twenty years.
So we just there's two families, right, Like essentially I
have two husbands and I have a wife. So there's

(24:49):
just a lot of and and quite honestly, like Caitlin
and I for a while, we're just having a lot
of babies. Like it was like she has three, I
have three, you know. And so I think for us,
we've done the best we could do. I mean, Hindsight's
twenty twenty, Adam, if we could really kick it for
an afternoon, I would share a lot of stories with you.
But I think you're just doing great. I mean I
would say what you're doing is everything that needs to

(25:12):
be done. I think this industry has a way of
scooping you up and pushing you along. I think it
has a way of making things look really shiny, and
that can sometimes leave a lot of resentment and some
hurt feelings behind. I think there's great places for therapy
like Porter's Call and the Refuge Center for counseling if
you need some deep dives into untangling some things. But
I feel like we've kind of learned and loved at

(25:33):
the same time. I think for me, I know too
much about our industry because I worked for Big Machine.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah, and so I can tell you do I sometimes I.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Know, But see I sometimes give too much grace when
I should just dig my heels in and say stay
with me. But I know what's important. Amen, And I couldn't.
I would be livid if he left. Yeah, in the hospital,
you know. Yeah. You also, oh, we had to go
wrap up the Kane Brown tour. That's a huge opportunity.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah. Yeah, And there's there's you know, the music industry
is really the whole thing is just opinions and nobody's
doing this. There's no correct answer for almost anything. So
you know, there is something to be said for they
have been grinding for a long time, and so when
they do get a song that's running up the charts
and they're getting these asks that they've always been wanting
to do, that's a different situation.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
You know, sometimes you have to go do that, but
it is I can tell that you are.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
You would love talking to my wife because she kind
of can see it all from nothing's really shiny to her, right,
it's all shiny to the hardest more so, but she
can see right through it. And she's been really great
for me in that and that's probably the reason that
I'm able to just kind of calmly move shows and
be like, you know what this is best for?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, you know what's the most important too. With that's like,
that's you know, family is the most important piece, and
without that, your career is not going to go to
the lengths that it will because of your career can
go away tomorrow anyway's career ken, but your family, it's like,
that's those are the people you need to cherish. And yeah,
it's just such a crazy lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
You know, like it's is it is not normal, and
we forget about that right like it does seem normal
to me or whoever it might be. It gets to
the point where it's just normal and outside looking in,
there's really nothing normal about it. And so she's always
a good reminder of that. And also, I'm not you know,
I didn't. I didn't get discovered on TikTok six months ago,

(27:24):
and I'm going out on a headlining arena to work
next week. You know, I've been around, I've seen the
shiny bells and whistles. I've been in and out of
bad record deals. I've kind of seen all of that.
So I do know how it works and behind the scenes,
and so that's made it a lot easier too, to
really prioritize what needs to happen. Here and so it's

(27:45):
it's been great, and like I said, I think it
was a great decision for us.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Is Ain't She? Your newest song? One of your favorite
songs to sing because it's about your lady?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
A lot of my songs are about my lady. But
I have actually not really gotten to sing it. That
came out in.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
January and we haven't been out on the road yet
to play that song, so that's kind of going to
be a new thing.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
I do love that song, though.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I feel like that is the ultimate compliment as a guy.
It's something I say all the time, ain't She? And
I'm from Mississippi, so it kind of rolls off the.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Tongue a little bit.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
But the ultimate compliment as a guy to me is
just like to be at the bar with one of
your buddies and your girlfriend's there too, and you look
across the room and you're just kind of having a
beer and you look over and you go, yeah, she's
way too good for me, ain't she. That's like the
ultimate compliment, I think, And so that's what we're all
trying to find a girl we could say that about,
and that's her for me.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
So that's kind of where I cannot wait until March,
because you are going to be it's going to be
through the roof. It'll be that at times a gazillion
once you see her move into that other season of life.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, it's already been that too a little bit, even
just being pregnant. It's been fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, I can tell you're just such an intuitive, like
intentional guy. So I think it'll be really cool for
you to sing that on stage. Well, you've got a
baby in headphones.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Oh my god, there's nothing cuter in the entire world
in a baby and nothing.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, babies all day, right, And do you plan on
bringing him on the road, him and on the road, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
For sure, we have.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
We've kind of already decided it. I mean, I guess
you have to kind of wait and meet the guy
and see how he does with it. But we've just
seen we've seen a lot of people have babies and
kind of hunk her down and not have lives afterwards,
and we've kind of committed to not doing that. We
want to just be as active as we can. We
still want to take trips, even if they're not on tour,
just just trips for us.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
That kind of thing. So we are definitely going in
with that mindset. Hopefully that'll stay the same, but that's
that's the goal.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think it will. We did that like I love
and I are. I mean, we were gone all the time,
and I think they.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Just know that.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah I had I had a crib on our bus side,
a second bus. Yeah, a little little baby crip for Jolie.
That was fun.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's definitely the goal for the next year is to
get to the second bus. The second bush made no money.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Second guys, we're also single hands in on three everybody else.
It was a fun year, but then that year I
also made zero money. My second bus is always going
to say it, but I was gonna let use it.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
All the artists always want that second bus. And I'm
coming from the management side, and I'm like, can we
look at the money of the second bus?

Speaker 4 (30:37):
It makes.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
You guys, but nothing makes sense. We just have to
soak up the living inside of the lives we're creating exactly,
So what do you do with so Like, Okay, you're
out on the road, how do you maintain the healthy relationship?
Are you good at communicating? Like what would your what
would your wife say? Is your best quality? And your
worst quality I am.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I would say maybe a couple of years ago, communication
would have been on the worst side of qualities.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I was not.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I'm a big I'm a romantic, which an intentional and
that kind of thing that you were picking up on
a little bit, which are some of my best qualities.
But it also made me like, for the first couple
of years, I didn't like to just directly communicate things.
I would rather surprise you and pick you up, or
I would rather make plans that you know, it all
had to be kind of a little bit more grand
for me to be excited about it. And McKinnon has

(31:32):
definitely taught me communication. She is the most straightforward, honest,
loyal person I've ever met in my entire life.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
And she's been that way since our first date.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean, she was just straight out of the gate,
blunt exactly who she was, and now that I know her,
i'd get that she's always been that way, But I
was not that way. I was kind of, you know,
I was raised, always put a smile on, you know,
just kind of be I was kind of the golden
child a little bit, so I was supposed to be
good at everything, even if things are going bad, just
kind of keep the straight face going. And she has

(32:05):
kind of brought the more real, honest side of me out,
Like I enjoyed telling the truth these days. I used
to be a little on the shady side, Like there's
a lot of things that have changed about me, kind
of growing up in that way that sometimes.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
You're a baseball player, it's just part of the.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
And I was like, well, I don' want to trace
it back to Yeah, what else do I need to say?
I mean, there's some baseball players are brutal, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Brutal sometimes a podcast for another.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
There are some good ones, but there are also some
really bad ones. But that that has been kind of
the whole thing for us, I mean, figuring that out again.
Covid we had almost two years of time that we
would just have never had because I was used to
I had never dated a girl in the same city
as me until I met McKennon.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Of course, I mean a little bit because I married
one of you, So.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, I probably it probably was intentional. It was.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
It was as much as I wanted to handle a
relationship kind of and but also I was you know,
I moved from Mississippi to Nashville, and so there was that,
there was that thing. But again, two years of COVID,
I had, I'm used to being gone every Wednesday night
or Thursday morning, and I liked it that way. Right,
there was the break I needed, and so this gave

(33:30):
us time to actually dive into one another and see
what was going to happen. I feel like COVID either
broke relationships or made them better, and luckily it made
us a lot closer. And it's kind of why you
see the relationship you see today. But I had, I
was I always tell Mac, I was like I was
not ready to meet you for sure, Like I needed

(33:52):
a couple of years to get to the point. So sorry,
I wasn't there when we first said hello, but I
eventually made it.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, y'all come. It is tricky though. It's like I
watched in COVID, like the artist and artist couples fail first, right,
like the artist and artist marriages. I mean, our country
music really went through it. I was like, we really did,
because we're all so used to living separate, and like, respectfully,
we are ready for you to go on the road
just as much as you probably are ready to go
on the road. Right, so like we're all used to
doing our own thing, and then all of a sudden,

(34:21):
I remember by June of that year looking at Preston
like do you need to get up on the counter
and sing and shake your money maker? And I can
just be down here in a crop top, like there's
validation that you get every day out there that you're
not getting here because you know the dice.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
To me, it's so hard, the validation thing. Yeah, I
have to I call it re entry when I get
back home from the weekend. I actually started when the
bus pulled back into the lot. I would I would
take like ten minutes and just recenter my brain to like, Okay,
for the last four days, you've been in a world

(34:58):
where the whole entire thing around you, everybody out there
either plays for you or works for you, or you
know whatever. The fans are screaming at you, and they've
been they're there for you, and you're about to walk
into the house. And there were there were weekends where
I would walk back home and be like, well, why
aren't you excited to see me?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Like what's going on?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I had to like seriously after recenter, like no, no, no,
you she's probably wondering why you're not excited to see her, Like,
this is flipped. This is re entry back into normal life.
That was a hard thing, and you don't even you
don't even really realize it for a while. And I
think the music being an artist will turn you into
a complete if you like. It's set up to turn

(35:39):
you into an asshole if you let it. I think,
so being aware of it is really nice. So I'm
that's what I always re Entry is kind of my
thing when I get back home.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, I give an unofficial twenty four hours for him
to come back, and I don't tell it's not guaranteed
because I don't want to have to give it because
then I'll get resentful, right right, But I'm trying to like,
I'm like, here's your quin waw, here's some water, here's
a bathroom with a flushing toilet. You know, people think
your life is glamorous, but sometimes it's tricky out there.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, sometimes we haven't showered since we left, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, and then you want us to be excited to
see you. I want you to know you said that,
stanky Adam, oh Adam, Well, thank you for coming on
and just being authentic. Thank you for putting out amazing songs.
You're going out on the road in April, right.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Is now night one?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yes, Boston, get ready and everyone download his news. We'll
download all of the songs, but download his newest song,
Ain't She because it's a good one. I'm your sweetheart.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Oh, thank you guys. It's great to talk with you guys.
And we are doing we're rescheduling it now, but we
are going to do a Nashville show.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
So whenever that ends up, be.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I'll let you guys. I'll let you guys know, and
we'll have you guys out. I'd love for you to coments.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Okay, where is it going to be at Brooklyn Bowl? Amazing?

Speaker 4 (36:53):
So fun?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Lovin yeah, love love love, Okay, awesome, Well, good luck
with everything. Enjoy every minut it of it. I mean
I miss already the little and that was a few
months ago.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
So yeah, I told Mac, I was like, are you
going to miss having this little baby inside your belly?
Like it feels like, you know, sometimes you feel your phone.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I miss the kicks.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, you feel like your phone like a phone in
your pocket that's not actually there. It's probably something like.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
That, you know, But wed range.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Thank you guys for the advice. I will I'll get
you guys max numbers so you guys can talk. That'll
be that'll be more efficient.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
She'll love it already. Thanks, Adam, have a great day,
all right. Well, And he just a doll like he
just like another she is. He's a sweetheart. He's so precious,
you guys. It is just it's crazy. I'm looking him
up right now. And oh the socials having babies in

(37:47):
the road and all of it. I just need to
see all put in the little face to the name.
Look at her. Let me see her, McKinnon, McKinnon, dole.
What a cute look, so cute little baby belly. I love.
I do miss the baby because the baby. We have
the baby's name on there, just baby dolea Okay, I
like it. I'm gonna heard it. Yeah, dad, that's my girl.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Speaking of real fast. Did you ever hear from anyone
or figure out this girl on the plane?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, no, we didn't put the teaser. They didn't put
the teasers up. So I just asked for a teaser.
So now I'm gonna now I'm gonna post about it. Okay. Yeah,
So she's not a listener. No, all right with the candlestick.
I know, same namesis some things, Yes, my love people

(38:38):
that you talked to on planes. I talked with Sarah
Gretzky this morning. What do you mean, oh, on the
plane or you talk to you miss her on the
plane because she was your non miss connection and it
was funny were we both got asked to do a podcast.
I know she did a podcast that I got asked
to do a mom's podcast. It's awesome, and so I
was like, hey, I was just checking in to see

(38:58):
and she she was just so funny, and I said,
I just feel like you're a good judge of character.
I mean, you did pick Janna, and so it was cute.
We were like, had a little moment. We need to
get her on again. So she's so funny, get her on.
But yes, okay, all things. Love you guys, I love you. Okay,
bye bye bye
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