May 6, 2024 • 33 mins
Jana’s diving deep into the latest pop culture news with Josie Van Dyke from The Weekly Trash! We discuss Taylor and Travis, how to keep intimacy in your marriage, and why you shouldn’t trust the “rose colored glasses”.
Plus, Jana experiences some culture shock when she finds out about “soaking”!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, so I'm very excited for this week's podcast because
we've got an in house guest. I think I need
to know, and it's going to be in house because
I try to look like I care. You look like
you always show up so like just a little borderline
queue right, well no, no, like so cute and I'm
(00:28):
always like in the gym shorts, no makeup whatsoever. The
only reason I have makeup on today because I have
an audition that I have to do after this before
the sitter leads. So maybe I should pretend like I
have auditionally From far away the camera, you really can't
tell anyways, But you're good there because I'm I don't
You're beautiful. You're great. Let's see what I could do
(00:50):
with myself to make we have a guest. Sorry, So
Josie's here. She is the host of the Weekly trash
Pot and she's adorable. She's so young. I just are
you so young? I just did her podcast. Oh well,
that makes me feel a lot better because I gotta
tell you, is it the baby at a biblical age
(01:12):
that's done it to me? I think it's Salt Lake.
She's from Salt Lake.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh yeah, I got that Utah, the Utah, the Utah.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Look, well, you hat, you're just stunning. Oh my gosh,
can I come every week? I mean, you really are,
thank you, But I want you to really appreciate how
young and pretty you are. I will, because I don't
think I did that enough at your age. No, no,
I have three kids, so I'm really I like this.
I never looked like that, and I always look like this.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I usually look like that, but you look gorgeous, so
I actually don't look like that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But kind of my hars usually greas here. I'm excited
that Jose's here because her podcast is so much fun.
I mean to be called weekly trash. I think that's
just what is your favorite trash to talk about? Oh?
I love pop culture, but what is your favorite pop
call true topic at the moment right now?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Oh my goodness, I'm kind of like fascinated with the
Montana Boys and all of the that they're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Can I just tell you something really fast about the
Montana Boys because I'm in the bath the other day,
not in the bath, sorry, Roman is taking a bath,
and I was just looking at the Roman's taking a
little bath and his thing. He's very protected. Don't worry.
I'm watching him like you know, yeah, yah, I'm being
a good mom. But I'm also like, just it's a
moment to sit as well, absolutely while my hand is
(02:31):
still touching him, making sure that he's fine. But it's
usually where I pee pee, right next to the bathroom
and I can do it. I'm like, look at me,
I'm liberated. But I was swaping river and I put
my thumb back to it because I was on TikTok
and I see the Montana boat Boys and Alan walks
in at that exact moment. He's like, why are you
watching that? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's just they're like I felt caught like by like
there's just these Jews and they lip sync and I
don't I don't know they're trying to be cowways, but
I just think it's kind of funny. This is one
And I was like, this is Kristen Caviler is dating,
So I just want to see one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, Mark, I couldn't tell you. I just call him
the hot one because I think he's the hottest one.
She does too, obviously, Yeah, I didn't realize he was
part of that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh yeah, yes, I just knew he was a famous
kind of a pop culture I don't even know because
it's like TikTok. They just like sing. So now I've
been kind of deep diving on them. So they just
lip sync? Do they can they actually sing? Because they're
I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But they've been interviewed by like podcasters and they're hilarious.
Like Hannah Burner, do you know who that is?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
She's a comedian. She podcasted them on the street of
New York City. Go go look it up on TikTok.
It is hilarious. They are funny, like they're not trying
to be funny, they're just they're trying to be serious.
They're bumpkins, you know, they're just from the country. They
don't know anything. Like Hannah's like, oh, what's your zodiac side?
And he was like, mmm, I think like Tori or something.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Okay, okay, and clothes. So they're not really super funny. No, No,
they're just kind of dumb in the nicest way possible.
I like you a lot, really enjoy her. Yeah, they
provide entertainment. Yeah, I think I think I have to
be the political one. You can be politically, somebody's got
to be. So that's I'm I'm Switzerland and more than
(04:26):
I have got the Well, it's your show, so you
have to be it's your high.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well I think I would tell them, I'd like, you
guys are so hot and that's great because like you're
a little dumb, but I'm dumb.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So I feel like I'm not. People don't know why
I am dumb as rocks.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, you're just a what do you think classifies you
as dumb? Busy? My brain functions at the weirdest pace.
It's I don't know how I have a podcast truly,
Like when I talk, I'm like, am I making any sense?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Like something is going on in my head. But you're
so smart. Like when I was on your podcast, you
were saying how you she? I mean she does it
all by herself. She reaches out to people, she gets
the dads. I'm like that takes skill and brains, taking
that making that season for myself. Yeah, I'm like, guess
who's opening up for partnership? Christy? Who so happy to
(05:12):
see you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Nope, exactly right. I just got to fake it. With
three kids. That's a lot of what I think we
all experience. It'll probably feel smarter in my thirties.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Well didn't work out well for me, but I hope
it does for you.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
How old are your kids? Eight? The same? Okay? Yeah? Yeah? Five?
Brand new? Oh that's brand new. We love brand new.
I kind of have a brand new too, So Montana
and then Montana boys. What else in pop culture at
the moment? Oh okay, right now, I'm trying to think
what I last spoke on, because we love some pop
culture over here. I mean depending on you to keep
me up to date so that I feel like cool.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Okay, okay, okay, well now I'm just like brain fart. Okay,
here's the thing. I am obsessed to Taylor Swodon.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Travis right now. Okay, so is my daughter. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I had a trasher that's what I call my listeners,
had dinner with her what pearn Travis literally had dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I was shook. I was shook.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
She she couldn't really like take pictures or video it
because she didn't want to be that creep. That's like
I'm with Taylor Swift. But she did take a photo
but she didn't want to post it and be that
girl that was like fangirling. But she sent it to
me and I about prapped myself.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So it's legitimate. It's legit, like it actually happened. So
all the people with the.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Conspiracies like they're not in love. They're in love. Okay,
it's real. They're gonna have babies, they're gonna get married.
I'm obsessed, Cramer. But you hate it. You're looking like
you hate it. Why do you hate it? You think
it's fake.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm not saying it's fake. I just pr no, not
at all, Okay, I just have my own He reminds
me of my ex. Oh, we won't say the name. Okay, Yeah,
I know exactly who you're talking about it. It just feels
a little coney cheesy, like loving the attention that's just
(06:58):
kind of from him and just it just feels like
he just is loving the attention. Well, can we do it?
Raise your hand if you've dated a Travis, Well, yeah,
I think you have to. It's so hard. So I
think we all feel that way. But I also am
the person that watched her like run off the stage
and hug him in the very beginning a million times,
I was like the cutest thing ever, and I loved
it at first, and then it just as it went on. Honestly,
(07:23):
this super Bowl thing was kind of a rub me
kind of the wrong way. The aggression there, and then
I've just kind of heard things that I just don't
like love. But again, I just want everyone to be happy,
for sure, that is what I will default to. I
just I don't know, it's just something about him reminds
me of my ex that I just I'm going to
say something that will definitely get everyone fired on, and
(07:45):
I just know it. But it's true to what I think.
So I feel like she is more emotionally intelligent than that.
And so that's why I'm like, is he fulfilling? And
not because he's an athlete or because he plays football.
I just always drunk. Every time I've ever seen a video,
He's just always drunk. And I'm like, so I hope
that she doesn't go on that, Like it's just you
(08:07):
see her. I see her drinking more now because of
like the company you keep, right, but we've never really
seen her in the wilds.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
We're seeing that more just because she's out and about
right with her other couples, she could have been doing
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Have you listened to her recent album kind of Fell Asleep?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, okay, well as somebody who I say, I'm a
swiftie and I have listened to it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And I love her. I love her music. I rack
out all the time. But I just I didn't know
it's not like a bopper.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, but she says in one of the songs, like yah,
I know Aristotle and you know how to play ball,
Like you're dumb, I'm smart, like basically what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So she's valid.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
She's valid, and I think she's smart enough to also
know if he's a good matcher. I don't think she
would waste her time with him. I think she's so
above that. So that's where I feel like I trust.
I trust my girl Taylor and her choices. But your
thoughts are valid as well. Everyone's thoughts are valid.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We're all valid. Let's all be pulited. Correct. I say
I don't know that I trust any woman super in love.
That is also true, say that I don't trust myself
super I said I don't trust any woman super in love.
I think we rose colored glasses and we see what
we want to see, and it's it's not a bad thing. Yeah,
it's just a really sweet moment of insanity where everything
(09:22):
is is you want to see it. So what was
your rose colored moment with Preston? Then I think, well,
there's a couple. That's why it takes me a second.
I think I loved that he owned his own business
because I came from raising a husband before him, and
(09:42):
I was the breadwinner, and it was just relieving to
me that he was motivated and established. He's in music,
so that takes some grit too. It also takes a
tiny slice of narcissism. So I would say that when
the glass is popped off, that's where you see artists,
I think, have to have a little to believe in
themselves when other people don't. Yeah, I think it was
probably that. I think he was so hard in the
(10:04):
paint for me that I maybe ignored some of the
riff rash that was still lingering on the sides. You know.
But I was also in a time of transition when
I met him, like with my marriage and ending and
all the things. So but I would say, you know,
I just think that I look back and I'm like,
(10:24):
it was it's always always there. Maybe we just don't
see it for what it's worth. Speaking of dating, does
anybody want to talk about Sophia Bush? Oh? I know
(10:45):
that pop culture? I know that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I almost talked about it, but I was like, I
don't know enough to like really deep dive this, but
that's tell me. I'll tell me two. Q community does
not like her right now. I think she's a home wrecker.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh well, guys, I don't know, can you fill me in?
And probably maybe somebody else that's in their forties it
doesn't know. Well, I don't even know the soccer player's name. Oh,
Ashlyn Harris is beautiful. Oh she's beautiful, stunning. I would
go for her stunning it like a Doyle part two.
No a soccer player? Oh yeah, kind of okay, Yeah,
I mean because Abby and I mean Abby Wambach is
(11:19):
a soccer player. Yeah. So they were like, I've met
Abby once and I was just like starstruck. I loved
I loved Abby Wombach. Do you are you a soccer fan?
I mean you're married to a soccer player. So I
was like, what really? Yeah, I wasn't, but I was.
I thought she was like if I was ever, I
think attracted to a woman. It was Abby Wombach and
(11:41):
then I then I saw Ashlan Harris and I was like,
oh wow, she's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh yeah, no, I feel like I would go more
for Ashland. Yeah, I like like the tattoos and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah. So Sophia Bush wrote a article in Glamour about
coming out as queer and now she's with Ashland. But
I think where the the drama. The drama is that
technically Ashton was still married to Ali, who was also
a soccer player at the time, and I think Sophia
(12:11):
was going through her divorce at the time. Potentially that
piece I don't know, but that they were discussing but
when you know Ashen was still technically married and stuff.
So the time, they never really address it. It's kind
of like the elephant in the room. But they don't
really talk about it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And so everyone's upset because they're like, be honest, say
what really happened? Because Sophia apparently like befriended them, was
friends with both of them, and then basically stole.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Ashland and was like you're mine now.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And now they're together and Ashlyn and Abbi have two
kids together. So it's like breaking this family and it's
just like this whole thing, and wow.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I have kind of choose things to it where it's
two sides of it, where it's you don't know the
ins and outs, just like we have all the time.
There's so many things that I have not said publicly,
will always keep private, sure to protect my family or
my kids or myself whatever, you know, my friends. So
(13:09):
you just don't really know. Some things may look a
little gray. But I also think on the flip side
that too, life is a little gray. It's not very great.
It's not black or white. I think probably more of
it with you than any other friend. There's so many
things people still don't know. You can write five more
books and there's still things that are so protected for you. Yeah,
(13:30):
because you also have children. And I do think it's
hard sometimes because it's just so skewed. We can't know.
We just can't know it all. And if we I
don't think we should know it all. Maybe well, I
think there's yeah, I mean I agree with that. I
think there's certain things that could be harmful, But then
also things that not everybody has this kind of life
(13:53):
and platform that has lived in the open, and I
think if more people had cameras and mics in their
faces and had that, everybody would have a little point
where Okay, it wasn't done to perfection or it wasn't perfect,
and it's unfair too, I think for anybody to go
into comments and be hurtful when you just really don't know.
(14:14):
And that's kind of the thing where projection is one thing,
but there's always a truth and there's always gray. So
it's just I don't know. I kind of go, we're
all humans and we might make mistakes, and even their
version of reality might not be reality. Like I always
think there's three sides to every story. For here's mine
and God saw it all. But then I always go
(14:35):
back to but I just want everyone to be happy.
There's a piece of me too, Like in my twenties
and thirties, I was constantly always trying to chase who
I was and trying to figure it out through relationships.
And so I think, you know, reading the article, and
I just I hope she slows down, she's stopped running
(14:55):
and is like actually happy and like you know, and
she can breathe, Yeah she can, Yeah, Like she said
that she can breathe. So I think that's a great
thing that we should all feel one day. No, I'm
happy for her, but I don't know if I could ever.
It's interesting too because I was reading another book and
one of the main characters ended it being lesbian. And
then I'm just like, I just love my man and sausages.
(15:22):
Oh wow, Scottish especially important sausages important. Oh yes, No,
so I just agreed, but I just want to go
on record. But I think there's a thing too, though,
where you can have a connection with someone, but I've
just never experienced that person describes Abby's encounter for the
(15:43):
very first time. I mean, it's like I would say,
that's how my encounter with Preston was, and I had
never felt that way before. And that's why I was
so swept and irritated because I'm like, I don't even
like your gender, Like I don't want to. Men have
never been notoriously reliable for me. Like I'm not interested.
I'm good, it's going to be single and have a
big career. Yeah, And then I was annoyed that I
(16:04):
liked him, But it was like the world went away
and I had never felt that in my life. Wait,
have you been with a woman? No? Oh, have you
ever kissed a girl? Spring break? You did? Spring break?
Did you use tongue? No? No, no, no, it was
more like three way kissy. What about you, Janna? Have
you ever been with never? Never? No. We do talk
about some stuff on wine down on the road. That
is so fun though, So everyone should come to see
(16:26):
those shows. They did have a uh huh, I love it. Yeah, No,
it's fun. But have you no? So I'm from Utah?
So are you Mormon? I always say I'm kind of Mormon?
He's your I Mormon? Isn't the one where he has
(16:47):
a bunch of wives?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, so that's polygamy, which is like old that's f LSRS.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
The fundamental isn't that Utah? That's it's in Utah. But
it's not common at all. It's also illegal, so it's
not Has it always been illegal? I'm pretty sure. Is
there a TV show? For sure? That's what I always wondered.
But this is dry.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But they're not Mormon. They have nothing to do with FLDS.
They're like a TOTALLYLDS. FLDS is the fundamentalists of the
Latter Day Saints.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh my gosh, I'm sorry and if this is so,
I just have to sidebar this really fast. This is disrespectful.
I apologize, and I'm gonna say it. Say it, go
for it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's like my favorite lead office, who cares You's going
weekly rashes.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The Book of Mormons is probably the funniest freaking play
I've ever seen my entire So I saw it your
thoughts as a Mormon.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Honestly, I didn't have any thoughts where it was like
I hated this, where I thought it was funny. I
was just kind of neutral because I hate plays, I
hate Broadway, I hate musicals.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Not my thing.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, my husband, who served a Mormon mission, was like,
this is so spot on, it's freaking hilarious.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He loved it. He loved it, and he's like the
more active members. So I was like, I wonder if
Mormons hate this because it's literally making fun of Mormons. No,
Mormons do hate it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They do, like, like, if you're an active member of
the church, you're not going.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
To see it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's like fun if you can like laugh at yourself,
you can see it. But if you take things away
too seriously, because at the end of the day, like
that is a very disrespectible play.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
There are some very disrepectives in the language.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know, people who are members of the church try
not to use profanity. I obviously use profanity. So I
always say I'm kind of Mormon, Like there are certain
things about the religion that I really appreciate and I
really love. And it's hard when I'm on a platform
because I'm not perfect, and I don't want to be
the poster child for the community because I A.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Don't know everything.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
B I'm not perfect, and see, I don't even know
if I believe in.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Half of it.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So I'm like, I don't ever want to be like, yes,
I am a member of the church, blah blah blah
blah blah, because I don't even know. And I feel like,
at twenty eight years old, you're still kind of figuring
out your faith a little. Like I know I believe
in God, that for sure, but religion is where I
have a hard time. Are you guys religious?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Are Mormons allowed to drink? No, that's it. I remember
that being one of them. No, no, no, no, that's it
because I remember there was something I was like, there's
a lot of women's like can't there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Things, and then no, you can't have tea coffee. I
mean when I say can't, you can do whatever you want.
You have free will. It's just recommended. It's called the
Word of wisdom, and it's been given to us by
prophets that you shouldn't do this for your health.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It just benefits you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And there's other certain things that they used to say,
like you can't have double piercings like that was something
where a prophet came out it was like, don't do that.
So there's just like a new prophet. It was no,
it was back in what was it. Harley's very active,
my my assistant, my video girl. But there's just random things.
They kind of change rules everywhere while.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
But yeah, no, I'm I'm a Christian, you're Christian? Christian Christian?
Yeah yeah, but I was gonna say, like Joseph an
amazing technical or dream coat, like we're making plays to
be entertaining and to have the laughability. Yeah. But I
mean I also say I'm a Christian, but I'm like
you your death sex for you good marriage. Yeah yeah,
like that's just my like, I know that's not the
thing that Jesus said. But I also think there's you know, yeah,
(20:10):
you do you want to buy a car before test
driving it? I mean, I'm gonna sit this one up.
Did you wait till marriage? Ma'am? My daughter was born?
I was married in September. My baby was born in January.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh all right, y, yeah that's a healthy PREMI yeah,
very healthy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So I'll carry the one. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that,
like I think with anything, I have always like, comedy
is my favorite. Yeah, and so like I think laughing
at anything that it makes them. I mean, I'm an
adult child have been alcoholic, So if I didn't laugh
at things like, that's a pretty sad little life for me,
you know, So like listen, is it comical? No, But
(20:49):
like I've made light of a lot, and like I
try to make it fun and relatable and that I
think plays like that are made for that. It's entertainment. Absolutely.
I think more people are looking up what it's like
to be Mormon now probably then before.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Sure, for sure it is hard though, because people who
don't know anything about it will look at this and
it already kind of puts a negative light on some
things where there is a lot of good. And I
think in every religion there's good and there's bad, right, sure,
And the Book of Mormon is so crude at times
the play that I think people have a different idea
(21:21):
of what it is and then they google it and
then they're like, oh wait, this is this actually isn't
the same thing as the play, which you have to
realize you're going to play for entertainment.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's not done. And I think in the end to
in the play, it's all about just believing in something
to have hope in your day, and that's I love
the message that it ended up telling for sure. So
I was a big fan of Big Love on Hbokay, fascinated.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, I don't think I watched it so good to me,
Oh it was. See I watched Sister Wives. I was
like a huge Sister Wives fan. I loved that show
because I couldn't fathom it. I could never share.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
My share it. No, could you even understand how I
feel like? I mean, you already have no, no, you
have without you? I did. Yeah it was any women, Yeah, yeah.
I just couldn't understand how anybody married more than one
woman would be interested in him specifically, Yeah, not my guy. Also,
how are they affording it?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Like, especially in Sister Wives, each wife has like their
own house, Like, what does he do for work?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I need him to be a really cool, better dude
for like eighteen people to be married him. Yeah, I
would love just a bunch of wives, but I don't
want to do anything with the girls. Oh yeah, I
can see that. And they can't touch my husbands. How
we have that already? Yeah, Dando, Yeah, you can't touch
my husband. But I'd love to all be in the
same little comment. I think we all need a wife. Honestly,
(22:43):
wives are the best. Yeah, I would love him and
he me. It's time to hear her side of the story.
I love the show oh so much. I was like,
please throw my name in the mix. I need to
be in on this.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
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bachelorette and then something changed.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm keeping things very very hush hush.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
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Speaker 2 (23:50):
Maybe you got any pop culture you got or a
topic that you just I had. I had something. Okay,
talk to me. I don't know how well this is
going to play out, but I have I've pinned it. No, no,
not great. Have you ever I don't know why this
is so ridiculous, but have you ever said something that like,
literally someone took the wrong way, probably and you just
(24:13):
think about it for years? Yes, Okay, you guys. I
have this embarrassing moment and every single time I wash
my face, which is a lot of times, I think
of this comment that I made to a woman that
gave me a facial once. Oh God, what you say?
It's just so I didn't mean it the way I
said it. Oh No, So she's talking about like, you know,
(24:34):
she gives this facial and I have pregnancy brain at
the time. We're at Little paulm Island and I'm so excited. Yes,
and she goes, well, you know, like you can't just
she was like, if you're going to ever do extractions
on your skin, like you know, you need to like
lather up and warm up and like you know, she's
like you have to massage. And she was like, you
just can't go right in. And I literally said, well,
(24:55):
we're all I mean, that's kind of how we're all wired,
Like that's how you should treat everything. Isn't that we
don't none of us want to go right in. And
I meant it like conversationally or like you would want
to warm up or habitly moment. And there I am
naked with the bump, thinking this woman is probably like
what is this woman? And every single time I wash
my face, I think about the fact that this woman
(25:15):
probably thinks I'm some dirty bird that needs to like
have a lot of foreplay or something before I go
right in. And I'm so the other day I thought,
when will I ever let go of that? Am I
gonna make right? Do I need to reach out to her? Honey?
That is like nothing? What do you even noticed? I mean,
go in your memory bank. I just feel like I
was like, I didn't mean it like that, but I
didn't even I didn't even think of it. She just
(25:37):
kind of got awkward after and then I was like, well,
that's weird. Why would she? And then later I thought
that's why she thinks I'm a pervert. Yeah, no she doesn't.
You gotta, I don't know, you gotta let go of it,
wash it off. I will go go to go wash
your face. Okay? Do you have one pun intended? I
mean all the time I say things and I go
when I say that, I say things that aren't when
(25:57):
I'm like nervous or I don't know what to say
because I do at social anxiety. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So do you have certain phrases that you use often,
like when things get awkward?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, Alan always says, I go okay, okay, okay, okay,
So now I'm like stop now, I'm how complex? Okay.
I definitely have things I say. It's kind of like
That's why I think sometimes I even get insecure on
wine down because I like have these like little one
line things where I'm like, I don't want to seem
(26:26):
like I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Rehearsed either saying it all the time too, right, like
oh put it on a T shirt?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Right? I would you should sell that merch? So what
as a mom of three, How do you keep things
alive with your husband? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right now it's looking rough. I'm I'm just so busy
right now that I almost feel bad. I was talking
about this with a friend, like when you have a
lot of things on your plate, You're like, what can
I drop? Like what's what's plastic, what's glass?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What will shatter? And what can handle it?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And I'm like, oh, our sex life can handle being
dropped right now because we're good, like we're I love.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You know, I don't ask. So they say, you know, god,
the relationship, then the kids? Yeah, no, what for sure? Right? Yeah,
because if y'all aren't intact and it's gonna the whole absolutely,
dam damn is gonna. I can't handle the intact hand motion,
the intact Yeah. No, we we chew for one. We
(27:24):
always do it once a week. Oh that's great, it's
a week always. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
But it's not like this crazy passionate like it's almost like, okay,
this is we have to do this. So we're connected,
but like I got things to do, so we have
like twenty minutes let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So that's this is interesting And I just want to
because I'm this audition that I'm auditioning for is almost
like a sex life show where she just feels in
the script, She's like, I can't even remember the last
time we actually fucked, Okay, f uck whatever. This is
escalated quickly for me. I have sweaty hands and so
(27:58):
you know, and I was reading like the sides with
Alan and then you fucked no, no.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But it was an interesting conversation because I think there
should be balance between like making love and then also
having that passionate and not just like a taking. Because
I know women we can just be like, oh, well,
just you know, check off check box. I'm a very
sexual person, so like I have very like a good
sex life. But also you know, when you have the
three kids now, it is there's times and I'm like, oh, okay,
(28:27):
we need to have sex, you know, but also you
want it to have You want to be able to
have those two different types of having sex.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Exactly, and right now my sex is just checkick lie.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I need you to that's your homework report back to us.
I will, I will, But sometimes it is homework though
to have to like you were so busy, well, because
you also like you guys, it's so enjoyable it is.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's like, once you start going, it's like, oh wait,
I just have the best sex life. I mean, I'll
tell you that's what saved us of time. Really, there's
zero other people I'd ever want to make out with
in my life.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
He is like he knows, he just knows me. It's
it doesn't even make sense. And so there's times where
I'm like, gosh, that would really suck if it wasn't
the case, because you know that's where someone women wander. Yeah,
and we're pretty diligent, Like, but I like want to
because I'm like, it's just epic all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Let's do that. I want you to do that. Okay, Wow,
the bar has been set.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Well, I think again, because you're managing so much, the kids,
You've got your podcasts. Like you also, you know, women,
it's it feels like a chore. But when it's not
made to feel that way, it's like she said great, yeah,
Like I also, I just think this is where I've
been before in a previous marriage, right, like it was
(29:46):
more checkboxy. I think there's just a level of intimacy,
Like I think it's worth Oh if I could tell
twenty eight year old me this, I would tell me this,
So I'm going to say it to you. I want
you to like be honest with him about what you love,
what you don't like, like lots of I love you,
like good eye connections sometimes sure, meet in the laundry room, right, okay,
whatever whatever is your thing. I like it to not
(30:10):
be like crazy, like we're still respectful, Like we're not
all webs and chains. That's for Like, no, ma'am, you're
not there yet. No, I'm more hopeless romantic than that. Okay,
but I do feel like there's been a different level
of intimacy over the last couple of years where we've
just been like, okay, but what do we want? Like
it's just I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I definitely think out of all my friends, I'm probably
the most sexual, and so my friends are always asking
me for advice. And I'm like, this is crazy because
I'm at a phase of my life where I'm actually
not very sexual right now, so can you actually give
me advice? Because growing up, oh, I was, I was
getting around, I was I loved I loved it. I
(30:51):
met my husband and I was like, let's do it
every day all day, like I was a horny little
girl and now I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Like I'm tired. Yeah, so you know, play season. Yeah.
But I also do think we don't get to just
be girlfriends, Like I just want to be as girlfriends sometimes,
you know, like I just want to feel like a
girl unless roommate yu less. I have this to do
and that to do, and that's like the one area
of life fe I'm like, yeah, like soak me up
and like love on me, you know, speaking of soaking,
(31:19):
do you know what soaking is in Utah? No, I'm nervous.
Wall you guys don't know what.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh my gosh, speaking of crazy Mormon culture in Utah.
Because you don't want to have sex before marriage like
most Christian religions, people do this thing called soaking.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm so nervous.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So I'm trying to explain it in a way that's appropriate,
but there's not a way. We've already said the f
So basically, they stick their genitals in your genital but
they don't move it soaks Like no, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh my god, that's still sex, what a general I said, Because.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
There's no friction, so it doesn't count as it doesn't
they soak it they soak loophole sexual.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Name, absolutely not. That's what come on. People do it
in Utah soap. They soap. I want, we'll soak it up.
I do this thing I call soaking prayer, which makes
me regret everything I've done for the last four years.
It's my bathtub. I just sit and I just like,
you know, soaking up. No more of that. Wow, Well
(32:26):
now you'll like Josie. It was amazing having you on light.
I think I might go take a bath and take
a good soak. Wow, I'm blown away. Notice that we
had a sex talk without Catherine here. Oh, Kat would
just be crawling out. She would hate it. All right, Well,
everyone make sure to listen to Weekly Trash with your girl.
(32:49):
Josie and we love y'all, love ya, bye bye,
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, so I'm very excited for this week's podcast because
we've got an in house guest. I think I need
to know, and it's going to be in house because
I try to look like I care. You look like
you always show up so like just a little borderline
queue right, well no, no, like so cute and I'm
(00:28):
always like in the gym shorts, no makeup whatsoever. The
only reason I have makeup on today because I have
an audition that I have to do after this before
the sitter leads. So maybe I should pretend like I
have auditionally From far away the camera, you really can't
tell anyways, But you're good there because I'm I don't
You're beautiful. You're great. Let's see what I could do
(00:50):
with myself to make we have a guest. Sorry, So
Josie's here. She is the host of the Weekly trash
Pot and she's adorable. She's so young. I just are
you so young? I just did her podcast. Oh well,
that makes me feel a lot better because I gotta
tell you, is it the baby at a biblical age
(01:12):
that's done it to me? I think it's Salt Lake.
She's from Salt Lake.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh yeah, I got that Utah, the Utah, the Utah.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Look, well, you hat, you're just stunning. Oh my gosh,
can I come every week? I mean, you really are,
thank you, But I want you to really appreciate how
young and pretty you are. I will, because I don't
think I did that enough at your age. No, no,
I have three kids, so I'm really I like this.
I never looked like that, and I always look like this.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I usually look like that, but you look gorgeous, so
I actually don't look like that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But kind of my hars usually greas here. I'm excited
that Jose's here because her podcast is so much fun.
I mean to be called weekly trash. I think that's
just what is your favorite trash to talk about? Oh?
I love pop culture, but what is your favorite pop
call true topic at the moment right now?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Oh my goodness, I'm kind of like fascinated with the
Montana Boys and all of the that they're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Can I just tell you something really fast about the
Montana Boys because I'm in the bath the other day,
not in the bath, sorry, Roman is taking a bath,
and I was just looking at the Roman's taking a
little bath and his thing. He's very protected. Don't worry.
I'm watching him like you know, yeah, yah, I'm being
a good mom. But I'm also like, just it's a
moment to sit as well, absolutely while my hand is
(02:31):
still touching him, making sure that he's fine. But it's
usually where I pee pee, right next to the bathroom
and I can do it. I'm like, look at me,
I'm liberated. But I was swaping river and I put
my thumb back to it because I was on TikTok
and I see the Montana boat Boys and Alan walks
in at that exact moment. He's like, why are you
watching that? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's just they're like I felt caught like by like
there's just these Jews and they lip sync and I
don't I don't know they're trying to be cowways, but
I just think it's kind of funny. This is one
And I was like, this is Kristen Caviler is dating,
So I just want to see one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, Mark, I couldn't tell you. I just call him
the hot one because I think he's the hottest one.
She does too, obviously, Yeah, I didn't realize he was
part of that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh yeah, yes, I just knew he was a famous
kind of a pop culture I don't even know because
it's like TikTok. They just like sing. So now I've
been kind of deep diving on them. So they just
lip sync? Do they can they actually sing? Because they're
I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But they've been interviewed by like podcasters and they're hilarious.
Like Hannah Burner, do you know who that is?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
She's a comedian. She podcasted them on the street of
New York City. Go go look it up on TikTok.
It is hilarious. They are funny, like they're not trying
to be funny, they're just they're trying to be serious.
They're bumpkins, you know, they're just from the country. They
don't know anything. Like Hannah's like, oh, what's your zodiac side?
And he was like, mmm, I think like Tori or something.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Okay, okay, and clothes. So they're not really super funny. No, No,
they're just kind of dumb in the nicest way possible.
I like you a lot, really enjoy her. Yeah, they
provide entertainment. Yeah, I think I think I have to
be the political one. You can be politically, somebody's got
to be. So that's I'm I'm Switzerland and more than
(04:26):
I have got the Well, it's your show, so you
have to be it's your high.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well I think I would tell them, I'd like, you
guys are so hot and that's great because like you're
a little dumb, but I'm dumb.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So I feel like I'm not. People don't know why
I am dumb as rocks.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, you're just a what do you think classifies you
as dumb? Busy? My brain functions at the weirdest pace.
It's I don't know how I have a podcast truly,
Like when I talk, I'm like, am I making any sense?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Like something is going on in my head. But you're
so smart. Like when I was on your podcast, you
were saying how you she? I mean she does it
all by herself. She reaches out to people, she gets
the dads. I'm like that takes skill and brains, taking
that making that season for myself. Yeah, I'm like, guess
who's opening up for partnership? Christy? Who so happy to
(05:12):
see you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Nope, exactly right. I just got to fake it. With
three kids. That's a lot of what I think we
all experience. It'll probably feel smarter in my thirties.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Well didn't work out well for me, but I hope
it does for you.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
How old are your kids? Eight? The same? Okay? Yeah? Yeah? Five?
Brand new? Oh that's brand new. We love brand new.
I kind of have a brand new too, So Montana
and then Montana boys. What else in pop culture at
the moment? Oh okay, right now, I'm trying to think
what I last spoke on, because we love some pop
culture over here. I mean depending on you to keep
me up to date so that I feel like cool.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Okay, okay, okay, well now I'm just like brain fart. Okay,
here's the thing. I am obsessed to Taylor Swodon.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Travis right now. Okay, so is my daughter. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I had a trasher that's what I call my listeners,
had dinner with her what pearn Travis literally had dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I was shook. I was shook.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
She she couldn't really like take pictures or video it
because she didn't want to be that creep. That's like
I'm with Taylor Swift. But she did take a photo
but she didn't want to post it and be that
girl that was like fangirling. But she sent it to
me and I about prapped myself.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So it's legitimate. It's legit, like it actually happened. So
all the people with the.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Conspiracies like they're not in love. They're in love. Okay,
it's real. They're gonna have babies, they're gonna get married.
I'm obsessed, Cramer. But you hate it. You're looking like
you hate it. Why do you hate it? You think
it's fake.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm not saying it's fake. I just pr no, not
at all, Okay, I just have my own He reminds
me of my ex. Oh, we won't say the name. Okay, Yeah,
I know exactly who you're talking about it. It just feels
a little coney cheesy, like loving the attention that's just
(06:58):
kind of from him and just it just feels like
he just is loving the attention. Well, can we do it?
Raise your hand if you've dated a Travis, Well, yeah,
I think you have to. It's so hard. So I
think we all feel that way. But I also am
the person that watched her like run off the stage
and hug him in the very beginning a million times,
I was like the cutest thing ever, and I loved
it at first, and then it just as it went on. Honestly,
(07:23):
this super Bowl thing was kind of a rub me
kind of the wrong way. The aggression there, and then
I've just kind of heard things that I just don't
like love. But again, I just want everyone to be happy,
for sure, that is what I will default to. I
just I don't know, it's just something about him reminds
me of my ex that I just I'm going to
say something that will definitely get everyone fired on, and
(07:45):
I just know it. But it's true to what I think.
So I feel like she is more emotionally intelligent than that.
And so that's why I'm like, is he fulfilling? And
not because he's an athlete or because he plays football.
I just always drunk. Every time I've ever seen a video,
He's just always drunk. And I'm like, so I hope
that she doesn't go on that, Like it's just you
(08:07):
see her. I see her drinking more now because of
like the company you keep, right, but we've never really
seen her in the wilds.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
We're seeing that more just because she's out and about
right with her other couples, she could have been doing
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Have you listened to her recent album kind of Fell Asleep?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, okay, well as somebody who I say, I'm a
swiftie and I have listened to it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And I love her. I love her music. I rack
out all the time. But I just I didn't know
it's not like a bopper.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, but she says in one of the songs, like yah,
I know Aristotle and you know how to play ball,
Like you're dumb, I'm smart, like basically what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So she's valid.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
She's valid, and I think she's smart enough to also
know if he's a good matcher. I don't think she
would waste her time with him. I think she's so
above that. So that's where I feel like I trust.
I trust my girl Taylor and her choices. But your
thoughts are valid as well. Everyone's thoughts are valid.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We're all valid. Let's all be pulited. Correct. I say
I don't know that I trust any woman super in love.
That is also true, say that I don't trust myself
super I said I don't trust any woman super in love.
I think we rose colored glasses and we see what
we want to see, and it's it's not a bad thing. Yeah,
it's just a really sweet moment of insanity where everything
(09:22):
is is you want to see it. So what was
your rose colored moment with Preston? Then I think, well,
there's a couple. That's why it takes me a second.
I think I loved that he owned his own business
because I came from raising a husband before him, and
(09:42):
I was the breadwinner, and it was just relieving to
me that he was motivated and established. He's in music,
so that takes some grit too. It also takes a
tiny slice of narcissism. So I would say that when
the glass is popped off, that's where you see artists,
I think, have to have a little to believe in
themselves when other people don't. Yeah, I think it was
probably that. I think he was so hard in the
(10:04):
paint for me that I maybe ignored some of the
riff rash that was still lingering on the sides. You know.
But I was also in a time of transition when
I met him, like with my marriage and ending and
all the things. So but I would say, you know,
I just think that I look back and I'm like,
(10:24):
it was it's always always there. Maybe we just don't
see it for what it's worth. Speaking of dating, does
anybody want to talk about Sophia Bush? Oh? I know
(10:45):
that pop culture? I know that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I almost talked about it, but I was like, I
don't know enough to like really deep dive this, but
that's tell me. I'll tell me two. Q community does
not like her right now. I think she's a home wrecker.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh well, guys, I don't know, can you fill me in?
And probably maybe somebody else that's in their forties it
doesn't know. Well, I don't even know the soccer player's name. Oh,
Ashlyn Harris is beautiful. Oh she's beautiful, stunning. I would
go for her stunning it like a Doyle part two.
No a soccer player? Oh yeah, kind of okay, Yeah,
I mean because Abby and I mean Abby Wambach is
(11:19):
a soccer player. Yeah. So they were like, I've met
Abby once and I was just like starstruck. I loved
I loved Abby Wombach. Do you are you a soccer fan?
I mean you're married to a soccer player. So I
was like, what really? Yeah, I wasn't, but I was.
I thought she was like if I was ever, I
think attracted to a woman. It was Abby Wombach and
(11:41):
then I then I saw Ashlan Harris and I was like,
oh wow, she's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh yeah, no, I feel like I would go more
for Ashland. Yeah, I like like the tattoos and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah. So Sophia Bush wrote a article in Glamour about
coming out as queer and now she's with Ashland. But
I think where the the drama. The drama is that
technically Ashton was still married to Ali, who was also
a soccer player at the time, and I think Sophia
(12:11):
was going through her divorce at the time. Potentially that
piece I don't know, but that they were discussing but
when you know Ashen was still technically married and stuff.
So the time, they never really address it. It's kind
of like the elephant in the room. But they don't
really talk about it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And so everyone's upset because they're like, be honest, say
what really happened? Because Sophia apparently like befriended them, was
friends with both of them, and then basically stole.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Ashland and was like you're mine now.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And now they're together and Ashlyn and Abbi have two
kids together. So it's like breaking this family and it's
just like this whole thing, and wow.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I have kind of choose things to it where it's
two sides of it, where it's you don't know the
ins and outs, just like we have all the time.
There's so many things that I have not said publicly,
will always keep private, sure to protect my family or
my kids or myself whatever, you know, my friends. So
(13:09):
you just don't really know. Some things may look a
little gray. But I also think on the flip side
that too, life is a little gray. It's not very great.
It's not black or white. I think probably more of
it with you than any other friend. There's so many
things people still don't know. You can write five more
books and there's still things that are so protected for you. Yeah,
(13:30):
because you also have children. And I do think it's
hard sometimes because it's just so skewed. We can't know.
We just can't know it all. And if we I
don't think we should know it all. Maybe well, I
think there's yeah, I mean I agree with that. I
think there's certain things that could be harmful, But then
also things that not everybody has this kind of life
(13:53):
and platform that has lived in the open, and I
think if more people had cameras and mics in their
faces and had that, everybody would have a little point
where Okay, it wasn't done to perfection or it wasn't perfect,
and it's unfair too, I think for anybody to go
into comments and be hurtful when you just really don't know.
(14:14):
And that's kind of the thing where projection is one thing,
but there's always a truth and there's always gray. So
it's just I don't know. I kind of go, we're
all humans and we might make mistakes, and even their
version of reality might not be reality. Like I always
think there's three sides to every story. For here's mine
and God saw it all. But then I always go
(14:35):
back to but I just want everyone to be happy.
There's a piece of me too, Like in my twenties
and thirties, I was constantly always trying to chase who
I was and trying to figure it out through relationships.
And so I think, you know, reading the article, and
I just I hope she slows down, she's stopped running
(14:55):
and is like actually happy and like you know, and
she can breathe, Yeah she can, Yeah, Like she said
that she can breathe. So I think that's a great
thing that we should all feel one day. No, I'm
happy for her, but I don't know if I could ever.
It's interesting too because I was reading another book and
one of the main characters ended it being lesbian. And
then I'm just like, I just love my man and sausages.
(15:22):
Oh wow, Scottish especially important sausages important. Oh yes, No,
so I just agreed, but I just want to go
on record. But I think there's a thing too, though,
where you can have a connection with someone, but I've
just never experienced that person describes Abby's encounter for the
(15:43):
very first time. I mean, it's like I would say,
that's how my encounter with Preston was, and I had
never felt that way before. And that's why I was
so swept and irritated because I'm like, I don't even
like your gender, Like I don't want to. Men have
never been notoriously reliable for me. Like I'm not interested.
I'm good, it's going to be single and have a
big career. Yeah, And then I was annoyed that I
(16:04):
liked him, But it was like the world went away
and I had never felt that in my life. Wait,
have you been with a woman? No? Oh, have you
ever kissed a girl? Spring break? You did? Spring break?
Did you use tongue? No? No, no, no, it was
more like three way kissy. What about you, Janna? Have
you ever been with never? Never? No. We do talk
about some stuff on wine down on the road. That
is so fun though, So everyone should come to see
(16:26):
those shows. They did have a uh huh, I love it. Yeah, No,
it's fun. But have you no? So I'm from Utah?
So are you Mormon? I always say I'm kind of Mormon?
He's your I Mormon? Isn't the one where he has
(16:47):
a bunch of wives?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, so that's polygamy, which is like old that's f LSRS.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
The fundamental isn't that Utah? That's it's in Utah. But
it's not common at all. It's also illegal, so it's
not Has it always been illegal? I'm pretty sure. Is
there a TV show? For sure? That's what I always wondered.
But this is dry.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But they're not Mormon. They have nothing to do with FLDS.
They're like a TOTALLYLDS. FLDS is the fundamentalists of the
Latter Day Saints.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh my gosh, I'm sorry and if this is so,
I just have to sidebar this really fast. This is disrespectful.
I apologize, and I'm gonna say it. Say it, go
for it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's like my favorite lead office, who cares You's going
weekly rashes.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The Book of Mormons is probably the funniest freaking play
I've ever seen my entire So I saw it your
thoughts as a Mormon.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Honestly, I didn't have any thoughts where it was like
I hated this, where I thought it was funny. I
was just kind of neutral because I hate plays, I
hate Broadway, I hate musicals.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Not my thing.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, my husband, who served a Mormon mission, was like,
this is so spot on, it's freaking hilarious.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He loved it. He loved it, and he's like the
more active members. So I was like, I wonder if
Mormons hate this because it's literally making fun of Mormons. No,
Mormons do hate it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
They do, like, like, if you're an active member of
the church, you're not going.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
To see it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's like fun if you can like laugh at yourself,
you can see it. But if you take things away
too seriously, because at the end of the day, like
that is a very disrespectible play.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
There are some very disrepectives in the language.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know, people who are members of the church try
not to use profanity. I obviously use profanity. So I
always say I'm kind of Mormon, Like there are certain
things about the religion that I really appreciate and I
really love. And it's hard when I'm on a platform
because I'm not perfect, and I don't want to be
the poster child for the community because I A.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Don't know everything.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
B I'm not perfect, and see, I don't even know
if I believe in.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Half of it.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So I'm like, I don't ever want to be like, yes,
I am a member of the church, blah blah blah
blah blah, because I don't even know. And I feel like,
at twenty eight years old, you're still kind of figuring
out your faith a little. Like I know I believe
in God, that for sure, but religion is where I
have a hard time. Are you guys religious?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Are Mormons allowed to drink? No, that's it. I remember
that being one of them. No, no, no, no, that's it
because I remember there was something I was like, there's
a lot of women's like can't there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Things, and then no, you can't have tea coffee. I
mean when I say can't, you can do whatever you want.
You have free will. It's just recommended. It's called the
Word of wisdom, and it's been given to us by
prophets that you shouldn't do this for your health.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It just benefits you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And there's other certain things that they used to say,
like you can't have double piercings like that was something
where a prophet came out it was like, don't do that.
So there's just like a new prophet. It was no,
it was back in what was it. Harley's very active,
my my assistant, my video girl. But there's just random things.
They kind of change rules everywhere while.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
But yeah, no, I'm I'm a Christian, you're Christian? Christian Christian?
Yeah yeah, but I was gonna say, like Joseph an
amazing technical or dream coat, like we're making plays to
be entertaining and to have the laughability. Yeah. But I
mean I also say I'm a Christian, but I'm like
you your death sex for you good marriage. Yeah yeah,
like that's just my like, I know that's not the
thing that Jesus said. But I also think there's you know, yeah,
(20:10):
you do you want to buy a car before test
driving it? I mean, I'm gonna sit this one up.
Did you wait till marriage? Ma'am? My daughter was born?
I was married in September. My baby was born in January.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh all right, y, yeah that's a healthy PREMI yeah,
very healthy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So I'll carry the one. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that,
like I think with anything, I have always like, comedy
is my favorite. Yeah, and so like I think laughing
at anything that it makes them. I mean, I'm an
adult child have been alcoholic, So if I didn't laugh
at things like, that's a pretty sad little life for me,
you know, So like listen, is it comical? No, But
(20:49):
like I've made light of a lot, and like I
try to make it fun and relatable and that I
think plays like that are made for that. It's entertainment. Absolutely.
I think more people are looking up what it's like
to be Mormon now probably then before.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Sure, for sure it is hard though, because people who
don't know anything about it will look at this and
it already kind of puts a negative light on some
things where there is a lot of good. And I
think in every religion there's good and there's bad, right, sure,
And the Book of Mormon is so crude at times
the play that I think people have a different idea
(21:21):
of what it is and then they google it and
then they're like, oh wait, this is this actually isn't
the same thing as the play, which you have to
realize you're going to play for entertainment.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's not done. And I think in the end to
in the play, it's all about just believing in something
to have hope in your day, and that's I love
the message that it ended up telling for sure. So
I was a big fan of Big Love on Hbokay, fascinated.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, I don't think I watched it so good to me,
Oh it was. See I watched Sister Wives. I was
like a huge Sister Wives fan. I loved that show
because I couldn't fathom it. I could never share.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
My share it. No, could you even understand how I
feel like? I mean, you already have no, no, you
have without you? I did. Yeah it was any women, Yeah, yeah.
I just couldn't understand how anybody married more than one
woman would be interested in him specifically, Yeah, not my guy. Also,
how are they affording it?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Like, especially in Sister Wives, each wife has like their
own house, Like, what does he do for work?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I need him to be a really cool, better dude
for like eighteen people to be married him. Yeah, I
would love just a bunch of wives, but I don't
want to do anything with the girls. Oh yeah, I
can see that. And they can't touch my husbands. How
we have that already? Yeah, Dando, Yeah, you can't touch
my husband. But I'd love to all be in the
same little comment. I think we all need a wife. Honestly,
(22:43):
wives are the best. Yeah, I would love him and
he me. It's time to hear her side of the story.
I love the show oh so much. I was like,
please throw my name in the mix. I need to
be in on this.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
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Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm keeping things very very hush hush.
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Speaker 2 (23:50):
Maybe you got any pop culture you got or a
topic that you just I had. I had something. Okay,
talk to me. I don't know how well this is
going to play out, but I have I've pinned it. No, no,
not great. Have you ever I don't know why this
is so ridiculous, but have you ever said something that like,
literally someone took the wrong way, probably and you just
(24:13):
think about it for years? Yes, Okay, you guys. I
have this embarrassing moment and every single time I wash
my face, which is a lot of times, I think
of this comment that I made to a woman that
gave me a facial once. Oh God, what you say?
It's just so I didn't mean it the way I
said it. Oh No, So she's talking about like, you know,
(24:34):
she gives this facial and I have pregnancy brain at
the time. We're at Little paulm Island and I'm so excited. Yes,
and she goes, well, you know, like you can't just
she was like, if you're going to ever do extractions
on your skin, like you know, you need to like
lather up and warm up and like you know, she's
like you have to massage. And she was like, you
just can't go right in. And I literally said, well,
(24:55):
we're all I mean, that's kind of how we're all wired,
Like that's how you should treat everything. Isn't that we
don't none of us want to go right in. And
I meant it like conversationally or like you would want
to warm up or habitly moment. And there I am
naked with the bump, thinking this woman is probably like
what is this woman? And every single time I wash
my face, I think about the fact that this woman
(25:15):
probably thinks I'm some dirty bird that needs to like
have a lot of foreplay or something before I go
right in. And I'm so the other day I thought,
when will I ever let go of that? Am I
gonna make right? Do I need to reach out to her? Honey?
That is like nothing? What do you even noticed? I mean,
go in your memory bank. I just feel like I
was like, I didn't mean it like that, but I
didn't even I didn't even think of it. She just
(25:37):
kind of got awkward after and then I was like, well,
that's weird. Why would she? And then later I thought
that's why she thinks I'm a pervert. Yeah, no she doesn't.
You gotta, I don't know, you gotta let go of it,
wash it off. I will go go to go wash
your face. Okay? Do you have one pun intended? I
mean all the time I say things and I go
when I say that, I say things that aren't when
(25:57):
I'm like nervous or I don't know what to say
because I do at social anxiety. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So do you have certain phrases that you use often,
like when things get awkward?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, Alan always says, I go okay, okay, okay, okay,
So now I'm like stop now, I'm how complex? Okay.
I definitely have things I say. It's kind of like
That's why I think sometimes I even get insecure on
wine down because I like have these like little one
line things where I'm like, I don't want to seem
(26:26):
like I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Rehearsed either saying it all the time too, right, like
oh put it on a T shirt?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Right? I would you should sell that merch? So what
as a mom of three, How do you keep things
alive with your husband? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right now it's looking rough. I'm I'm just so busy
right now that I almost feel bad. I was talking
about this with a friend, like when you have a
lot of things on your plate, You're like, what can
I drop? Like what's what's plastic, what's glass?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What will shatter? And what can handle it?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And I'm like, oh, our sex life can handle being
dropped right now because we're good, like we're I love.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You know, I don't ask. So they say, you know, god,
the relationship, then the kids? Yeah, no, what for sure? Right? Yeah,
because if y'all aren't intact and it's gonna the whole absolutely,
dam damn is gonna. I can't handle the intact hand motion,
the intact Yeah. No, we we chew for one. We
(27:24):
always do it once a week. Oh that's great, it's
a week always. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
But it's not like this crazy passionate like it's almost like, okay,
this is we have to do this. So we're connected,
but like I got things to do, so we have
like twenty minutes let's go.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So that's this is interesting And I just want to
because I'm this audition that I'm auditioning for is almost
like a sex life show where she just feels in
the script, She's like, I can't even remember the last
time we actually fucked, Okay, f uck whatever. This is
escalated quickly for me. I have sweaty hands and so
(27:58):
you know, and I was reading like the sides with
Alan and then you fucked no, no.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But it was an interesting conversation because I think there
should be balance between like making love and then also
having that passionate and not just like a taking. Because
I know women we can just be like, oh, well,
just you know, check off check box. I'm a very
sexual person, so like I have very like a good
sex life. But also you know, when you have the
three kids now, it is there's times and I'm like, oh, okay,
(28:27):
we need to have sex, you know, but also you
want it to have You want to be able to
have those two different types of having sex.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Exactly, and right now my sex is just checkick lie.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I need you to that's your homework report back to us.
I will, I will, But sometimes it is homework though
to have to like you were so busy, well, because
you also like you guys, it's so enjoyable it is.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's like, once you start going, it's like, oh wait,
I just have the best sex life. I mean, I'll
tell you that's what saved us of time. Really, there's
zero other people I'd ever want to make out with
in my life.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
He is like he knows, he just knows me. It's
it doesn't even make sense. And so there's times where
I'm like, gosh, that would really suck if it wasn't
the case, because you know that's where someone women wander. Yeah,
and we're pretty diligent, Like, but I like want to
because I'm like, it's just epic all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Let's do that. I want you to do that. Okay, Wow,
the bar has been set.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Well, I think again, because you're managing so much, the kids,
You've got your podcasts. Like you also, you know, women,
it's it feels like a chore. But when it's not
made to feel that way, it's like she said great, yeah,
Like I also, I just think this is where I've
been before in a previous marriage, right, like it was
(29:46):
more checkboxy. I think there's just a level of intimacy,
Like I think it's worth Oh if I could tell
twenty eight year old me this, I would tell me this,
So I'm going to say it to you. I want
you to like be honest with him about what you love,
what you don't like, like lots of I love you,
like good eye connections sometimes sure, meet in the laundry room, right, okay,
whatever whatever is your thing. I like it to not
(30:10):
be like crazy, like we're still respectful, Like we're not
all webs and chains. That's for Like, no, ma'am, you're
not there yet. No, I'm more hopeless romantic than that. Okay,
but I do feel like there's been a different level
of intimacy over the last couple of years where we've
just been like, okay, but what do we want? Like
it's just I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I definitely think out of all my friends, I'm probably
the most sexual, and so my friends are always asking
me for advice. And I'm like, this is crazy because
I'm at a phase of my life where I'm actually
not very sexual right now, so can you actually give
me advice? Because growing up, oh, I was, I was
getting around, I was I loved I loved it. I
(30:51):
met my husband and I was like, let's do it
every day all day, like I was a horny little
girl and now I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Like I'm tired. Yeah, so you know, play season. Yeah.
But I also do think we don't get to just
be girlfriends, Like I just want to be as girlfriends sometimes,
you know, like I just want to feel like a
girl unless roommate yu less. I have this to do
and that to do, and that's like the one area
of life fe I'm like, yeah, like soak me up
and like love on me, you know, speaking of soaking,
(31:19):
do you know what soaking is in Utah? No, I'm nervous.
Wall you guys don't know what.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh my gosh, speaking of crazy Mormon culture in Utah.
Because you don't want to have sex before marriage like
most Christian religions, people do this thing called soaking.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm so nervous.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So I'm trying to explain it in a way that's appropriate,
but there's not a way. We've already said the f
So basically, they stick their genitals in your genital but
they don't move it soaks Like no, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh my god, that's still sex, what a general I said, Because.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
There's no friction, so it doesn't count as it doesn't
they soak it they soak loophole sexual.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Name, absolutely not. That's what come on. People do it
in Utah soap. They soap. I want, we'll soak it up.
I do this thing I call soaking prayer, which makes
me regret everything I've done for the last four years.
It's my bathtub. I just sit and I just like,
you know, soaking up. No more of that. Wow, Well
(32:26):
now you'll like Josie. It was amazing having you on light.
I think I might go take a bath and take
a good soak. Wow, I'm blown away. Notice that we
had a sex talk without Catherine here. Oh, Kat would
just be crawling out. She would hate it. All right, Well,
everyone make sure to listen to Weekly Trash with your girl.
(32:49):
Josie and we love y'all, love ya, bye bye,
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