March 19, 2024 • 33 mins
How Saying 'No' Can Grow Your Business
In this compelling episode of Profit with a Plan, host Marcia Riner, sits down with boundary-setting expert Sheryl Green to explore the transformative power of saying 'No'. As business owners, the quest for growth often leads us to overcommit, diluting our focus and hindering our path to success. Sheryl, with her profound insights into human psychology and her journey from people-pleaser to boundary-setting guru, unveils strategies to reclaim control over our time, priorities, and ultimately, our business's profitability.
Episode Highlights:- The Catalyst for Change (Starts at 00:02:23.270): Sheryl shares her personal journey of transformation, triggered by a moment of crisis due to overcommitment. This segment is a powerful testimony to the importance of recognizing and setting boundaries.
- Recognizing Boundary Crossings (Starts at 00:10:13.540): Dive into the subtle signs that indicate your boundaries are being crossed and how this realization can be the first step towards reclaiming your agency and improving your business and personal life.
- Practical Steps for Setting Boundaries (Starts at 00:12:25.300): Learn the actionable steps you can take to establish healthy boundaries. This advice is invaluable for anyone struggling to balance the demands of business ownership with personal well-being.
- Mastering the Art of Saying 'No' (Starts at 00:15:07.970): Sheryl offers practical advice on how to gracefully decline requests that do not align with your priorities or capacities. This skill is crucial for maintaining focus on your business goals and personal health.
Marcia and Sheryl dive deep into the psychological underpinnings of why we often find it hard to say 'No' and provide listeners with a toolkit for doing so in a manner that is both effective and respectful. By the end of this episode, you'll have a clearer understanding of how setting boundaries is not just a personal preference but a strategic business move that can lead to increased profitability and growth.
Whether you're a seasoned business owner or just starting out, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to boost their business's bottom line while also ensuring their own well-being.
Join us for an episode that not only challenges the status quo but provides the insights and tools you need to make saying 'No' a powerful strategy for your business's growth and sustainability.
Sheryl has a put together a powerful gift for you:
Learn How to Say “NO'. Saying “no” is perfectly acceptable!
She's put together a cheat sheet so you can buy yourself some time to think, and then respond with an appropriate (and kind) answer. www.youhadmeatno.com
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Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (00:03):
Hey? Have you ever had the problem of saying yes, too many times getting too many things on your calendar that you regret? And then, just like going, what am I doing doing this thing that I shouldn't be doing? Well, you need to check out our podcast on profit with a plan. I've got Cheryl Green, who's gonna teach us the power of saying, No.
(00:58):
Hey? Entrepreneurs! Are you trying to make bigger profits than your small business, if you're like most of us business owners, increasing, your profitability is always on your mind, and you're probably looking for ways to grow your revenue while growing your company. Well, you found a podcast that shares ideas to help you do just that.
I'm Marcia Reiner, known as the profit booster. And I'm a business growth strategist. I've helped tons of small business owners to establish and implement a tangible plan that guarantees increased profitability. Guide your growth and plans for your future exit, because building a highly profitable and sale ready business creates a win win scenario. That's more money now, and a windfall when it's time to let go. And I want to share strategies that I've learned with you on to day's profit with a plan podcast
(01:45):
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(02:23):
All right. I'm excited to have my guest on the show today. Cheryl green Cheryl has taken the people pleasing to Olympic levels for decades. She's put everybody else's needs above her own until she hit a metaphorical wall brick wall.
After committing to one too many responsibilities. Cheryl's discovered the importance of boundaries. Okay, she actually discovered the boundaries were even a thing, and now she works with individuals and organizations to establish healthy boundaries to improve their relationships. Communication and wellbeing.
(02:57):
Cheryl is the author of 6 books which is amazing, and she's earned her master's degree in forensic path out or psychology, but decided to against her days of being studying the criminal minds and went to work in the mental health, customer service and public relations area.
Sheryl Green (03:16):
She brings a unique experience and insights to to everybody. So Cheryl, welcome to profit with a plan. Podcast thank you. So much for having me
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (03:25):
absolutely okay, so. II loved her intro and getting to know you a little bit. And you had this like, I wanna go into criminal. You know, I wanna be an FBI kinda guy or gal and and do some really cool stuff. But
really, what was that big thing that finally got you into this space of helping people to manage their boundaries.
Sheryl Green (03:49):
Yeah. So about 4 years ago, now I'm Covid hit. We all. We all felt that, and
all of my clients disappeared overnight.
every single one of them. Just you know. II do content writing, and apparently they didn't see the need for that. In the middle of a pandemic, or at the beginning of one.
(04:11):
So I had been volunteering for years at an animal rescue, and the founder kept asking me to come work full time.
and when all my my clients disappeared, I said, Okay.
and I completely switched gears. I went and I worked full time for this animal rescue, which was always a passion project of mine.
(04:35):
And then my clients started coming back.
So I'm working full time and full time in the nonprofit world is not 40 HA week. Full time is 60 HA week, maybe 70, sometimes depending on events.
and my clients are coming back, and they're coming back, and I'm getting new clients, and I have to take them because I'm taking. I'm making so little in in the non profit world that I can't really keep a roof over my head and kibble in the dogs bowl without taking on these, you know freelance clients.
(05:10):
So I'm taking on more and more, and my parents are older and needing more of me. Can I just kind of? I hit a metaphorical wall and I almost hit a bunch of cars. I was driving down the road one day I was crying, which I've actually quain the term driving, which is crying while driving.
(05:32):
and I
I cry a lot. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying like, I'm a very sensitive human being. However, during this time, you know, I'm working these like 60 70 h weeks.
I'm not making ends meet. I'm not meeting all of the demands on my time. I'm short with absolutely everyone in my life, and I'm literally crying, maybe 22 h out of the day. Oh, my gosh! It's I mean it! It was!
(06:03):
It was bad, and one day I was driving down the road, and I just I saw those oncoming headlights.
And I was like, Hey, if I just kinda cross over the median like this could all be just done.
and it scared the crap out of me, obviously, and I didn't want to hurt anybody else, for sure. And I definitely I wanted to be there for my parents and for my dogs and for all the animals.
(06:29):
And II pulled over the road. And I was like, okay, something something has to give. I calmed myself down and
ended up taking a month off from the rescue to kind of reevaluate my priorities and ultimately not working with them anymore. And it took another 6 months. I had cleaned everything off my plate, like everything that was non essential, like, I was literally just focused on my clients and my parents and my mental health
(06:58):
and things started building back up again.
I started saying yes again, and a friend of mine. I'm part of the National Speakers Association. A friend of mine was the President at the time, and she said, Hey, Cheryl, I want you to be the oncoming or the incoming President. I want you to take over next year. What an honor!
(07:19):
And I was like, Okay, like, you know, I'm going through the all the fields, and I'm thinking, well, one I'm now engaged and planning a wedding.
2. My parents are even, you know, even more needing my assistance. And
(07:39):
but I've I've gotten everywhere I've gotten because of networking and because of serving, and because of giving to the community.
And wouldn't this be good for my business, and I'm I, you know I've got the angel and the double on both shoulders. But most of all, I don't wanna say no to my friend.
I don't wanna disappoint my friend. and I gave her the Yes.
(08:04):
and I instantly regretted it like
and to make a long story short, I spoke to a mentor, and he said, You know, if you can't serve in the way that the chapter deserves to be served right now, then, better, you know now, before you go through all the training and take up, you know this space
(08:25):
better, you know now than in 9 months, when it's ready for you to step up.
and I was sitting on an airplane. My kindle died, and I was like, Oh, Crap! I have to like sit with my own thoughts right now. And I realized that I needed to get some boundaries. I realized that II had none, and the challenges that I've experienced in my life. We're almost all from a lack of boundaries.
(08:51):
I was like, well, I do need to learn them, but I'm not the only one like I need to teach them, too. And I outlined my book on the plane.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (08:59):
Wow! That's awesome. See what happens when you when you're when your technology dies. Well, wow! Thank you for sharing that. I mean. What a what a what a crazy turn of events that that led! But you know there's so many of us business owners that they go through that boundary setting.
(09:23):
you know, when you're starting your business importantly. You know you're like wearing every hat, and you're doing all these things. And you figure, oh, I just gotta make one more phone call. Oh, I just have to lick one more stamp, you know, I just have to do this one more thing, and it starts to just build up on you until you're feeling like you do like you. Wanna what if I just le went into those lights right?
(09:46):
That's crazy.
So you know, we all feel it in one way, shape or form. Maybe not, as scary is, is yours or recognizable as yours. But we all do feel that. So if you could help us out a little bit, now that you're teaching this to folks if you could help us out to maybe help us recognize when a the bow the boundaries have been crossed right, and when maybe we've taken on too much.
Sheryl Green (10:13):
I think that number one symptom and the number one feeling is resentment
when you are resenting everyone and everything in your life, including your parents, your family, maybe your kids, maybe your dogs who you love more than anything in this world.
But it's like everything. Everyone stops being a loved one, and they start being a demand on your time
(10:39):
and clients that you enjoyed working with, or maybe didn't enjoy working with. You know you're you're just feeling this overwhelming. Wait. if you're really short with everybody, and that's not normally you like your your.
You're in the symptoms of burnout. You're experiencing that that discomfort that comes from just having too much on you, too much weight, too much, you know. Responsibility.
(11:13):
and II think II liked how you phrased it, because I always want to clarify that this isn't something that people do to us.
This is something we allow. of course, because once we make that distinction it goes from, I'm the helpless little victim to like.
Well, Crap, I have to look at my own behavior, but now I have the power to change it. So I like that. I like that. That's one thing we can control, right? I mean, in a in a world of so many things that we cannot control. This is something we can control.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (11:49):
And you know, there's always gonna be those things that are, you know, dumped on you that you really have to. You know there's no choice in the matter. You have to take it. But in those things, in the rest of the things that we really, truly do have control over. You can start to make those decisions.
So now that we've recognized the fact that you know we're feeling resentment and regret for for the things that we want to do and we can't do. And and that kind of stuff. How do we start to prioritize the things that should be on our plate, and the things that maybe shouldn't be on our plate.
Sheryl Green (12:25):
So the the first thing I would say, is, a a lot of boundary work is actually done like in the rear view mirror. It's kind of looking at the past
not to beat yourself up. but to say like, Oh, I don't like how that felt. or I don't like how that turned out.
(12:46):
Because a lot of times like if you're brand new to to boundary work, and you're brand new to even understanding the concept of boundaries which I think a lot of people really, truly are. You know, it's not something we're taught in school, and we learn. And and just, you know, having our in our lifestyle all the time. We're usually just specially, ladies. They're just loading it on. Yep, and if you're like brand new to this for somebody to say like, Where's your boundary you're like?
(13:14):
I don't know like, is it in the couch cushion like? What am I? What are we looking for here? But it's through that like that review mirror work. Is that you? You can figure out where those lines are.
And look, these situations. They keep coming. Maybe the maybe the place has changed. Maybe the people have changed, the details have changed, but the situation itself is going to keep coming. So when you learn like, when you look at it in the past and say, like, Oh, I wish
(13:47):
this had gone differently. Don't worry. It's coming back around. You're gonna get to see that same same situation. And now you can handle it differently.
So I really think that's like the the place to start is just by saying like, Hmm, you know what I remember like getting that icky feeling like I have to go like, you know, shower after this situation occurred like what happens, and I found a boundary.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (14:16):
I like that. I like that because history does repeat itself. So if we can keep an eye on what it did, and kind of realize the mistakes or the times that we wish right, that were different. What if we were to be in a time machine and go backwards? Would we do it again? A lot of those answers, you know, that come up, and they're like, Oh.
(14:37):
heck! No, right. No, I'm not gonna do that again, or I wouldn't have done that again. Then that's what you're gonna take going forward and say, when that opportunity
comes around again, that's when you can kindly say no. So speaking of saying kindly, no. How does one say no to something like you mentioned your friend? You didn't want to let your friend down, you know. Oh, they did something for me. I feel like I owe them, or you know. Gosh! My hands are tied. I have to take this on. How did you say? No?
Sheryl Green (15:07):
So
the first step, knowing you can.
and to anybody watching, listening, like I officially give you permission to say No, that you you may never have been given that before, you may never have known it was an option. But first, knowing that it's okay, like you're allowed, you're allowed to say no to friends. You're allowed to say no to clients like you are allowed to say, no like this is cool.
(15:33):
It's gonna say, like, No, say, no, it's cool, like we're gonna have a mean for that. But
II would say, if you have made the decision and I use a 3 step process for this, and I call it the clash question cause I love music the clash question. Okay, I like that. I yay, or should I know
(15:58):
so, and anybody who knows the class like understands that and the rest. But you know you're going through these questions in your head like, Do I want to or do. I actually have to do something, and there are things out there that yes, you do have to do like you do have to take your your elderly parents to the doctor. If there's not someone else that can do it.
(16:23):
Do you have to take care of your children? Yes, please do like this is. This is important exactly exactly like huge, huge, hugely important. Do you have to bake 700 cupcakes for the school fair? No, you just don't like so figuring out that have to want to and then moving on to do, you actually have the resources to do this.
(16:50):
And this is what a lot of us don't take into account. We're like, well, I have to do this. Okay, great. Do you have the time? Do you have the money? Do you have the energy? Do you have the mental bandwidth
to take on whatever this is?
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (17:06):
And and first of all, that is an incredible set of questions to ask yourself for anything that you need to do. Do I have the time, money, energy, and bandwidth to take this new project on this new hire, on this new client, on, you know, those are really important questions that we wanna ask ourselves, because
(17:32):
I don't know about you. But with me I wanna do the best I can do right. And if I'm gonna do kind of a half ass job. Well, then, it's gonna make me look bad. My client or customer may not want to come back on it. And then so I love the fact that you really set those boundary questions in place first.
Sheryl Green (17:50):
and to ask yourself with every opportunity. Brilliant if you like, that you'll love the next one.
The next one is like time is finite, and I'm not getting into like there is a relativity here, and not smart enough to talk about that, but like time is finite money. Yes, you can always go make more, you know. Great to have that mindset. However, for the most part you're working within a fixed.
(18:16):
fixed amount. Your energy, your your brain power is all finite, and if you allocate to this new project opportunity helping someone, whatever it may be, you're taken away from something else. Yeah.
yeah, we're not all just sitting around like waiting for, you know, something else to like. Oh, I I'm waiting. I'm gay. You know we're we're we're taking away from something else. And if you're not willing
(18:47):
to give up whatever that is, maybe it's time sitting on the couch watching Netflix. Maybe it's taking your kid to their baseball game. Maybe it's taking on a new client. Maybe it's starting a new project or a new business, whatever it is. If you're not willing to give that up.
then your answer is no.
and if you you look at all of these together, and I'll use a what's it called? Never mind the diagram I use. If if you
(19:15):
have a no to any one of these things. you can't do it.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (19:19):
Hmm.
Sheryl Green (19:21):
so it kind of puts this like instant framework into your head of like, well, yeah, I want to, or I have to, but I can't.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (19:31):
I think there's another party in in involved here, too, because
if you have a a spouse or partner, or if you have kids, or you know your dog, your your fur baby. Right
would they allow you to take that time away? Just because you say, well, you're fine over there in that corner, honey, you just go on and do your thing. I'm a do my thing over here.
(19:55):
but they may not be. They may not be okay with that. So I think you know, we have to also ask them.
you know, are you okay with me, cutting our time together down?
Sheryl Green (20:08):
Yeah, we're spending that money or whatever it is. Yeah, that's that's safe. And my husband will appreciate that. You said that.
Well, I'm just looking in the rear view mirror right? Going. Well, you know, he didn't like that before.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (20:24):
I like it. Okay? So we've we've we've asked ourselves some questions, right? We've we've looked at the fact that time is is is finite, and some other resources may be finite as well. So what else do we need to look at in making that decision? Whether we say yes or no, and then, oh, the first question,
Sheryl Green (20:43):
is there a way to say, no?
Yeah. So first off pause
first was pause.
Just stop for 1 s. Take a breath just like you. We had some tech issues getting on this call like, and you realize, okay, let's breathe. Let's take a moment. The the problem with
(21:07):
30, 40, 50, 60 years of having unhealthy boundaries.
Is, we have. Yes, disease.
And before someone has even finished asking you their favor. You have already sorry for the graphics here. Some people think they're hilarious. Some people don't. You're already vomiting out. Yes.
(21:34):
like it is flying out of your mouth.
and they're you know they're like, could you? Yes, Aha, sure, absolutely. And I can pick your kids up from daycare, and I'll wash your car while I'm out. And we're like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got everything I can do all the things.
And I'm not saying to never help anyone again in your life.
This is not what I'm saying. I'm I still volunteer with organizations. I still help my friends. I'm still taking care of my dad like
(22:05):
we we're here to to serve. We're here to help one another.
The problem is when that is not a a mindful act
it when we don't take the time to go through those slash questions in your head to to check in with ourselves. And do we actually wanna do something. And we just.
(22:26):
you know, we just puke Rs all over everybody. And so the the trick to that is literally just pause
like, just take a minute, and you don't have to be like awkward and be like.
wait a second. You don't have to do that. But one. Take a deep breath, finish hearing them out here. What it is you're getting yourself in involved in.
(22:53):
and then, if you need to, and I suggest it by yourself sometime. Say something like, Hey, you know what? I have to check my calendar.
I'll get back to you by the end of today.
or I wanna talk to my husband about this sounds like a great opportunity, but you know, always wanna check in and I'll let you know by Friday.
(23:16):
Give yourself that space, to run through those questions, to really check in, to to check with whoever you know your your sick, I call them significant, others to check with your your significant other, with your kids, with whoever it is. And have that time to really think. Do I want to do this before you commit.
(23:38):
So you're not sitting on an airplane deciding to let your friend down, you know, 3 weeks after you've already committed. so take a pause. Just just take that time. And then you! You've got 3 answers in front of you.
Yes.
sure. Happy to help. We're all really good at at that one but you've already run through everything. And you're like, Okay, I can actually do this.
(24:09):
we'll switch to no go to. No, at this point. Which is the no, I'm just not willing to help you. I'm not able to help you at this time.
no, IIII hate the phrase. No is a complete sentence, because if you don't believe that you actually have the right to like, that's just, you know, fluffiness.
(24:30):
But it is, and there's funny. I can also still hear how your people please, or comes out of you, and it's difficult for you to say no, which a lot of us have that same problem it's like, well, no. So let me tell you why. No, here's this long laundry list of why knows all you had to do was say, No, yeah, sorry. No, really isn't enough.
(24:55):
you know. If it's your best friend, and they need something from you, just saying, No.
first.
not necessary. Maybe there really is a reason that you can't or won't and you want to give that to them, because the relationship kind of warrants it.
II
from my single days a guy comes up to you in a bar and wants to buy you a drink. No, is sufficient that that is plenty. Just
(25:23):
gosh! And we're done
so you've you've got. Yes, you've got no.
And then you've got yes, and
and II like to call this the improv answer. Because if you're familiar with improv they they use yes, and to move a scene along
sometimes you do want to help. You just can't or won't help in the way that they want.
(25:49):
Hmm.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (25:50):
and it's okay at this point to put your own conditions on it. I like that.
Sheryl Green (25:56):
Yes, I would be happy to babysit your child. However, I'm not available on Tuesday. I could take them on Wednesday.
Ye yes, I'm I'm happy to lend you money, but $10,000 is a little bit much. I could give you $1,000 right now if that would help you. So you're you're kind of just shifting
(26:21):
shifting the ask.
And at this point, like you've done your job, you've given them an answer, and now they have the opportunity to say like that's awesome. Wednesday would be great. I'll just move my hair appointment, whatever it is, you know, like great. Thank you, or you know what that doesn't work for me. I appreciate you, but I'm gonna have to find someone else.
(26:42):
So it puts the like the honest back on them to like. Okay, they can't help me in the way I want or need to be helped. so I'll go find someone else, or I'll rearrange my schedule. So you know, whatever it may be
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (26:57):
right, I like that. So there's options right? And I love that you're putting conditions on it to to say yes, and it's not. Yes, but it's yes, and however I can do it this way, so it gives a little bit more of of
the way you can control your boundaries and what you're doing. Gee! I can't run the entire bake sale, or gee! I can't run this entire project, for you know, for the client. But I can take this and this in this piece off your play right and and doing that. So I think that that's I think that should be. Do done more often than just flat out. Sure you take advantage of me. Go ahead
(27:37):
kind of way. You know it brings up something for me. You know that that I always like to say. You know my yeses have conditions on them right? And and I coach my clients to the same thing.
you can say yes to this expense if it produces a client, if it increases the the lifetime value of the client, and you know when it keeps the client right? So you can say yes to this expense if it meets these criteria. So it's kind of the same thing as your no, you know. As if it doesn't meet this criteria, then I have to say no, and and it's kind of the same thing as yes. Do these? Does this improve my business?
(28:18):
Does this create, you know, more clients or longer clients, or keep a client? Does it free up time. Why? Because I'm hiring this person. Does it free up my time. So I can then go to revenue producing activities. You know, I think it's just having these questions
for those answers that that people are looking for from you, you know. And I think it's I think it's super valuable setting the boundaries on both sides could say, No, if it doesn't meet these criterias, and you can say, yes, if it meets these criteria.
Sheryl Green (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of opportunities out there. And I like to call opportunities. Time sucks in sheep's clothing
really awesome. And they're really amazing. And they're gonna move your business forward and they're gonna bring more clients. And they're gonna educate you and all the things.
And sometimes, literally, it's just a time stock. And you're like, okay. Well, now I'm out of money, time, energy, and I'm not. I haven't moved forward in the way I wanted to.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (29:25):
Yes, ma'am, that happens quite frequently, especially with all these fantastical ideas. Or if you're one of those kind of people like myself that would rather do something creative than actually, you know, they pick up the phone and do something constructive. Right? You know, those kind of things definitely can can do that. But
(29:48):
sheep's clothing. Yeah, they are just a lot of them. There's a lot of them. Hmm, alright. So this is. This has been really great. Cheryl, you've given us some really good ideas. You've given us some really good ways of kind of working through those boundaries that we have in there, and I love the fact that you started this all off with the point. That saying.
(30:09):
you have the right to do this. You have. Nobody can control your time except for you, and so you can make those moves on on your own. So where can listeners find out more about you and your methodologies and the things that you do?
Sheryl Green (30:25):
Yeah. So if you go to my website, you had me@no.com and it is because of the book you had me at. No dotcom you can find out about the book, about my speaking, and then also you can download. Sorry there's like dog fur flying through. Please excuse me. You can download. I have a how to say, no cheat sheets.
(30:51):
and a lot of people just like you asked, How do I say? No, and it's easier to have some sentence starters ready for you.
And then you can create your own from there. But I wanted to create just this super easy like
this is your go to like, I have clients that have it laminated. And it's on their office wall.
(31:15):
And they're just literally like, okay, how to how to. Okay, wait. I have this information. So II invite everyone to download that. And
yeah, II would love to to have these conversations with people. It's
it's something that was never talked about. Unfortunately, in a lot of people's chop child childhoods, childhoods. Yes, and it's time
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it's time to have these conversations. It's time we we start making our our our own priorities a priority.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (31:51):
Love it
so very, so very important, and so very valuable. I love the idea that your your clients have laminated and put it up on their wall as a as a reminder of the things that the boundaries that we should have. And as, especially in business, we're inundated with, Oh, I gotta do this or people coming in and going. Can you do this for me right?
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Instead of owning your own time and your calendar, and getting the objectives that you have to achieve, as well as the objectives that your team and the people around you have to achieve. So, having that power to be able to say no and yes
to the things or yes, and to the things that are incredibly important to move you, your own personal life as well as your business life forward. So I love that alright listeners. I hope you found a couple of ideas to put into your business that will make you be more profitable. I know that this this skill set of being able to say yes and no at the appropriate times.
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for you to be able to really thrive and take your business and your life to a new level
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and Cheryl and I would love to hear
the the the one. No, that changed your life, or maybe the one. Yes, that changed your life. Hit us up in the comments and tell us what that answer was, and and or or why you said that answer, and how it changed your life. We would love to hear your stories on that.
and we'll comment back for you. And while you're at it, please subscribe, you don't want to miss future shows, as always, you can catch profit with a plan on any of your favorite podcast players. We're looking forward to more great profitable information on next week's show. So until then, make your plans and prop them with profit with them. Thanks, Cheryl.
Sheryl Green (33:53):
thank you.
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All right. I'm excited to have my guest on the show today. Cheryl green Cheryl has taken the people pleasing to Olympic levels for decades. She's put everybody else's needs above her own until she hit a metaphorical wall brick wall.
After committing to one too many responsibilities. Cheryl's discovered the importance of boundaries. Okay, she actually discovered the boundaries were even a thing, and now she works with individuals and organizations to establish healthy boundaries to improve their relationships. Communication and wellbeing.
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Cheryl is the author of 6 books which is amazing, and she's earned her master's degree in forensic path out or psychology, but decided to against her days of being studying the criminal minds and went to work in the mental health, customer service and public relations area.
Sheryl Green (03:16):
She brings a unique experience and insights to to everybody. So Cheryl, welcome to profit with a plan. Podcast thank you. So much for having me
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (03:25):
absolutely okay, so. II loved her intro and getting to know you a little bit. And you had this like, I wanna go into criminal. You know, I wanna be an FBI kinda guy or gal and and do some really cool stuff. But
really, what was that big thing that finally got you into this space of helping people to manage their boundaries.
Sheryl Green (03:49):
Yeah. So about 4 years ago, now I'm Covid hit. We all. We all felt that, and
all of my clients disappeared overnight.
every single one of them. Just you know. II do content writing, and apparently they didn't see the need for that. In the middle of a pandemic, or at the beginning of one.
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So I had been volunteering for years at an animal rescue, and the founder kept asking me to come work full time.
and when all my my clients disappeared, I said, Okay.
and I completely switched gears. I went and I worked full time for this animal rescue, which was always a passion project of mine.
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And then my clients started coming back.
So I'm working full time and full time in the nonprofit world is not 40 HA week. Full time is 60 HA week, maybe 70, sometimes depending on events.
and my clients are coming back, and they're coming back, and I'm getting new clients, and I have to take them because I'm taking. I'm making so little in in the non profit world that I can't really keep a roof over my head and kibble in the dogs bowl without taking on these, you know freelance clients.
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So I'm taking on more and more, and my parents are older and needing more of me. Can I just kind of? I hit a metaphorical wall and I almost hit a bunch of cars. I was driving down the road one day I was crying, which I've actually quain the term driving, which is crying while driving.
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and I
I cry a lot. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying like, I'm a very sensitive human being. However, during this time, you know, I'm working these like 60 70 h weeks.
I'm not making ends meet. I'm not meeting all of the demands on my time. I'm short with absolutely everyone in my life, and I'm literally crying, maybe 22 h out of the day. Oh, my gosh! It's I mean it! It was!
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It was bad, and one day I was driving down the road, and I just I saw those oncoming headlights.
And I was like, Hey, if I just kinda cross over the median like this could all be just done.
and it scared the crap out of me, obviously, and I didn't want to hurt anybody else, for sure. And I definitely I wanted to be there for my parents and for my dogs and for all the animals.
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And II pulled over the road. And I was like, okay, something something has to give. I calmed myself down and
ended up taking a month off from the rescue to kind of reevaluate my priorities and ultimately not working with them anymore. And it took another 6 months. I had cleaned everything off my plate, like everything that was non essential, like, I was literally just focused on my clients and my parents and my mental health
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and things started building back up again.
I started saying yes again, and a friend of mine. I'm part of the National Speakers Association. A friend of mine was the President at the time, and she said, Hey, Cheryl, I want you to be the oncoming or the incoming President. I want you to take over next year. What an honor!
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And I was like, Okay, like, you know, I'm going through the all the fields, and I'm thinking, well, one I'm now engaged and planning a wedding.
2. My parents are even, you know, even more needing my assistance. And
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but I've I've gotten everywhere I've gotten because of networking and because of serving, and because of giving to the community.
And wouldn't this be good for my business, and I'm I, you know I've got the angel and the double on both shoulders. But most of all, I don't wanna say no to my friend.
I don't wanna disappoint my friend. and I gave her the Yes.
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and I instantly regretted it like
and to make a long story short, I spoke to a mentor, and he said, You know, if you can't serve in the way that the chapter deserves to be served right now, then, better, you know now, before you go through all the training and take up, you know this space
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better, you know now than in 9 months, when it's ready for you to step up.
and I was sitting on an airplane. My kindle died, and I was like, Oh, Crap! I have to like sit with my own thoughts right now. And I realized that I needed to get some boundaries. I realized that II had none, and the challenges that I've experienced in my life. We're almost all from a lack of boundaries.
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I was like, well, I do need to learn them, but I'm not the only one like I need to teach them, too. And I outlined my book on the plane.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (08:59):
Wow! That's awesome. See what happens when you when you're when your technology dies. Well, wow! Thank you for sharing that. I mean. What a what a what a crazy turn of events that that led! But you know there's so many of us business owners that they go through that boundary setting.
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you know, when you're starting your business importantly. You know you're like wearing every hat, and you're doing all these things. And you figure, oh, I just gotta make one more phone call. Oh, I just have to lick one more stamp, you know, I just have to do this one more thing, and it starts to just build up on you until you're feeling like you do like you. Wanna what if I just le went into those lights right?
(09:46):
That's crazy.
So you know, we all feel it in one way, shape or form. Maybe not, as scary is, is yours or recognizable as yours. But we all do feel that. So if you could help us out a little bit, now that you're teaching this to folks if you could help us out to maybe help us recognize when a the bow the boundaries have been crossed right, and when maybe we've taken on too much.
Sheryl Green (10:13):
I think that number one symptom and the number one feeling is resentment
when you are resenting everyone and everything in your life, including your parents, your family, maybe your kids, maybe your dogs who you love more than anything in this world.
But it's like everything. Everyone stops being a loved one, and they start being a demand on your time
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and clients that you enjoyed working with, or maybe didn't enjoy working with. You know you're you're just feeling this overwhelming. Wait. if you're really short with everybody, and that's not normally you like your your.
You're in the symptoms of burnout. You're experiencing that that discomfort that comes from just having too much on you, too much weight, too much, you know. Responsibility.
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and II think II liked how you phrased it, because I always want to clarify that this isn't something that people do to us.
This is something we allow. of course, because once we make that distinction it goes from, I'm the helpless little victim to like.
Well, Crap, I have to look at my own behavior, but now I have the power to change it. So I like that. I like that. That's one thing we can control, right? I mean, in a in a world of so many things that we cannot control. This is something we can control.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (11:49):
And you know, there's always gonna be those things that are, you know, dumped on you that you really have to. You know there's no choice in the matter. You have to take it. But in those things, in the rest of the things that we really, truly do have control over. You can start to make those decisions.
So now that we've recognized the fact that you know we're feeling resentment and regret for for the things that we want to do and we can't do. And and that kind of stuff. How do we start to prioritize the things that should be on our plate, and the things that maybe shouldn't be on our plate.
Sheryl Green (12:25):
So the the first thing I would say, is, a a lot of boundary work is actually done like in the rear view mirror. It's kind of looking at the past
not to beat yourself up. but to say like, Oh, I don't like how that felt. or I don't like how that turned out.
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Because a lot of times like if you're brand new to to boundary work, and you're brand new to even understanding the concept of boundaries which I think a lot of people really, truly are. You know, it's not something we're taught in school, and we learn. And and just, you know, having our in our lifestyle all the time. We're usually just specially, ladies. They're just loading it on. Yep, and if you're like brand new to this for somebody to say like, Where's your boundary you're like?
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I don't know like, is it in the couch cushion like? What am I? What are we looking for here? But it's through that like that review mirror work. Is that you? You can figure out where those lines are.
And look, these situations. They keep coming. Maybe the maybe the place has changed. Maybe the people have changed, the details have changed, but the situation itself is going to keep coming. So when you learn like, when you look at it in the past and say, like, Oh, I wish
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this had gone differently. Don't worry. It's coming back around. You're gonna get to see that same same situation. And now you can handle it differently.
So I really think that's like the the place to start is just by saying like, Hmm, you know what I remember like getting that icky feeling like I have to go like, you know, shower after this situation occurred like what happens, and I found a boundary.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (14:16):
I like that. I like that because history does repeat itself. So if we can keep an eye on what it did, and kind of realize the mistakes or the times that we wish right, that were different. What if we were to be in a time machine and go backwards? Would we do it again? A lot of those answers, you know, that come up, and they're like, Oh.
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heck! No, right. No, I'm not gonna do that again, or I wouldn't have done that again. Then that's what you're gonna take going forward and say, when that opportunity
comes around again, that's when you can kindly say no. So speaking of saying kindly, no. How does one say no to something like you mentioned your friend? You didn't want to let your friend down, you know. Oh, they did something for me. I feel like I owe them, or you know. Gosh! My hands are tied. I have to take this on. How did you say? No?
Sheryl Green (15:07):
So
the first step, knowing you can.
and to anybody watching, listening, like I officially give you permission to say No, that you you may never have been given that before, you may never have known it was an option. But first, knowing that it's okay, like you're allowed, you're allowed to say no to friends. You're allowed to say no to clients like you are allowed to say, no like this is cool.
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It's gonna say, like, No, say, no, it's cool, like we're gonna have a mean for that. But
II would say, if you have made the decision and I use a 3 step process for this, and I call it the clash question cause I love music the clash question. Okay, I like that. I yay, or should I know
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so, and anybody who knows the class like understands that and the rest. But you know you're going through these questions in your head like, Do I want to or do. I actually have to do something, and there are things out there that yes, you do have to do like you do have to take your your elderly parents to the doctor. If there's not someone else that can do it.
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Do you have to take care of your children? Yes, please do like this is. This is important exactly exactly like huge, huge, hugely important. Do you have to bake 700 cupcakes for the school fair? No, you just don't like so figuring out that have to want to and then moving on to do, you actually have the resources to do this.
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And this is what a lot of us don't take into account. We're like, well, I have to do this. Okay, great. Do you have the time? Do you have the money? Do you have the energy? Do you have the mental bandwidth
to take on whatever this is?
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (17:06):
And and first of all, that is an incredible set of questions to ask yourself for anything that you need to do. Do I have the time, money, energy, and bandwidth to take this new project on this new hire, on this new client, on, you know, those are really important questions that we wanna ask ourselves, because
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I don't know about you. But with me I wanna do the best I can do right. And if I'm gonna do kind of a half ass job. Well, then, it's gonna make me look bad. My client or customer may not want to come back on it. And then so I love the fact that you really set those boundary questions in place first.
Sheryl Green (17:50):
and to ask yourself with every opportunity. Brilliant if you like, that you'll love the next one.
The next one is like time is finite, and I'm not getting into like there is a relativity here, and not smart enough to talk about that, but like time is finite money. Yes, you can always go make more, you know. Great to have that mindset. However, for the most part you're working within a fixed.
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fixed amount. Your energy, your your brain power is all finite, and if you allocate to this new project opportunity helping someone, whatever it may be, you're taken away from something else. Yeah.
yeah, we're not all just sitting around like waiting for, you know, something else to like. Oh, I I'm waiting. I'm gay. You know we're we're we're taking away from something else. And if you're not willing
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to give up whatever that is, maybe it's time sitting on the couch watching Netflix. Maybe it's taking your kid to their baseball game. Maybe it's taking on a new client. Maybe it's starting a new project or a new business, whatever it is. If you're not willing to give that up.
then your answer is no.
and if you you look at all of these together, and I'll use a what's it called? Never mind the diagram I use. If if you
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have a no to any one of these things. you can't do it.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (19:19):
Hmm.
Sheryl Green (19:21):
so it kind of puts this like instant framework into your head of like, well, yeah, I want to, or I have to, but I can't.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (19:31):
I think there's another party in in involved here, too, because
if you have a a spouse or partner, or if you have kids, or you know your dog, your your fur baby. Right
would they allow you to take that time away? Just because you say, well, you're fine over there in that corner, honey, you just go on and do your thing. I'm a do my thing over here.
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but they may not be. They may not be okay with that. So I think you know, we have to also ask them.
you know, are you okay with me, cutting our time together down?
Sheryl Green (20:08):
Yeah, we're spending that money or whatever it is. Yeah, that's that's safe. And my husband will appreciate that. You said that.
Well, I'm just looking in the rear view mirror right? Going. Well, you know, he didn't like that before.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (20:24):
I like it. Okay? So we've we've we've asked ourselves some questions, right? We've we've looked at the fact that time is is is finite, and some other resources may be finite as well. So what else do we need to look at in making that decision? Whether we say yes or no, and then, oh, the first question,
Sheryl Green (20:43):
is there a way to say, no?
Yeah. So first off pause
first was pause.
Just stop for 1 s. Take a breath just like you. We had some tech issues getting on this call like, and you realize, okay, let's breathe. Let's take a moment. The the problem with
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30, 40, 50, 60 years of having unhealthy boundaries.
Is, we have. Yes, disease.
And before someone has even finished asking you their favor. You have already sorry for the graphics here. Some people think they're hilarious. Some people don't. You're already vomiting out. Yes.
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like it is flying out of your mouth.
and they're you know they're like, could you? Yes, Aha, sure, absolutely. And I can pick your kids up from daycare, and I'll wash your car while I'm out. And we're like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got everything I can do all the things.
And I'm not saying to never help anyone again in your life.
This is not what I'm saying. I'm I still volunteer with organizations. I still help my friends. I'm still taking care of my dad like
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we we're here to to serve. We're here to help one another.
The problem is when that is not a a mindful act
it when we don't take the time to go through those slash questions in your head to to check in with ourselves. And do we actually wanna do something. And we just.
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you know, we just puke Rs all over everybody. And so the the trick to that is literally just pause
like, just take a minute, and you don't have to be like awkward and be like.
wait a second. You don't have to do that. But one. Take a deep breath, finish hearing them out here. What it is you're getting yourself in involved in.
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and then, if you need to, and I suggest it by yourself sometime. Say something like, Hey, you know what? I have to check my calendar.
I'll get back to you by the end of today.
or I wanna talk to my husband about this sounds like a great opportunity, but you know, always wanna check in and I'll let you know by Friday.
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Give yourself that space, to run through those questions, to really check in, to to check with whoever you know your your sick, I call them significant, others to check with your your significant other, with your kids, with whoever it is. And have that time to really think. Do I want to do this before you commit.
(23:38):
So you're not sitting on an airplane deciding to let your friend down, you know, 3 weeks after you've already committed. so take a pause. Just just take that time. And then you! You've got 3 answers in front of you.
Yes.
sure. Happy to help. We're all really good at at that one but you've already run through everything. And you're like, Okay, I can actually do this.
(24:09):
we'll switch to no go to. No, at this point. Which is the no, I'm just not willing to help you. I'm not able to help you at this time.
no, IIII hate the phrase. No is a complete sentence, because if you don't believe that you actually have the right to like, that's just, you know, fluffiness.
(24:30):
But it is, and there's funny. I can also still hear how your people please, or comes out of you, and it's difficult for you to say no, which a lot of us have that same problem it's like, well, no. So let me tell you why. No, here's this long laundry list of why knows all you had to do was say, No, yeah, sorry. No, really isn't enough.
(24:55):
you know. If it's your best friend, and they need something from you, just saying, No.
first.
not necessary. Maybe there really is a reason that you can't or won't and you want to give that to them, because the relationship kind of warrants it.
II
from my single days a guy comes up to you in a bar and wants to buy you a drink. No, is sufficient that that is plenty. Just
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gosh! And we're done
so you've you've got. Yes, you've got no.
And then you've got yes, and
and II like to call this the improv answer. Because if you're familiar with improv they they use yes, and to move a scene along
sometimes you do want to help. You just can't or won't help in the way that they want.
(25:49):
Hmm.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (25:50):
and it's okay at this point to put your own conditions on it. I like that.
Sheryl Green (25:56):
Yes, I would be happy to babysit your child. However, I'm not available on Tuesday. I could take them on Wednesday.
Ye yes, I'm I'm happy to lend you money, but $10,000 is a little bit much. I could give you $1,000 right now if that would help you. So you're you're kind of just shifting
(26:21):
shifting the ask.
And at this point, like you've done your job, you've given them an answer, and now they have the opportunity to say like that's awesome. Wednesday would be great. I'll just move my hair appointment, whatever it is, you know, like great. Thank you, or you know what that doesn't work for me. I appreciate you, but I'm gonna have to find someone else.
(26:42):
So it puts the like the honest back on them to like. Okay, they can't help me in the way I want or need to be helped. so I'll go find someone else, or I'll rearrange my schedule. So you know, whatever it may be
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (26:57):
right, I like that. So there's options right? And I love that you're putting conditions on it to to say yes, and it's not. Yes, but it's yes, and however I can do it this way, so it gives a little bit more of of
the way you can control your boundaries and what you're doing. Gee! I can't run the entire bake sale, or gee! I can't run this entire project, for you know, for the client. But I can take this and this in this piece off your play right and and doing that. So I think that that's I think that should be. Do done more often than just flat out. Sure you take advantage of me. Go ahead
(27:37):
kind of way. You know it brings up something for me. You know that that I always like to say. You know my yeses have conditions on them right? And and I coach my clients to the same thing.
you can say yes to this expense if it produces a client, if it increases the the lifetime value of the client, and you know when it keeps the client right? So you can say yes to this expense if it meets these criteria. So it's kind of the same thing as your no, you know. As if it doesn't meet this criteria, then I have to say no, and and it's kind of the same thing as yes. Do these? Does this improve my business?
(28:18):
Does this create, you know, more clients or longer clients, or keep a client? Does it free up time. Why? Because I'm hiring this person. Does it free up my time. So I can then go to revenue producing activities. You know, I think it's just having these questions
for those answers that that people are looking for from you, you know. And I think it's I think it's super valuable setting the boundaries on both sides could say, No, if it doesn't meet these criterias, and you can say, yes, if it meets these criteria.
Sheryl Green (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of opportunities out there. And I like to call opportunities. Time sucks in sheep's clothing
really awesome. And they're really amazing. And they're gonna move your business forward and they're gonna bring more clients. And they're gonna educate you and all the things.
And sometimes, literally, it's just a time stock. And you're like, okay. Well, now I'm out of money, time, energy, and I'm not. I haven't moved forward in the way I wanted to.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (29:25):
Yes, ma'am, that happens quite frequently, especially with all these fantastical ideas. Or if you're one of those kind of people like myself that would rather do something creative than actually, you know, they pick up the phone and do something constructive. Right? You know, those kind of things definitely can can do that. But
(29:48):
sheep's clothing. Yeah, they are just a lot of them. There's a lot of them. Hmm, alright. So this is. This has been really great. Cheryl, you've given us some really good ideas. You've given us some really good ways of kind of working through those boundaries that we have in there, and I love the fact that you started this all off with the point. That saying.
(30:09):
you have the right to do this. You have. Nobody can control your time except for you, and so you can make those moves on on your own. So where can listeners find out more about you and your methodologies and the things that you do?
Sheryl Green (30:25):
Yeah. So if you go to my website, you had me@no.com and it is because of the book you had me at. No dotcom you can find out about the book, about my speaking, and then also you can download. Sorry there's like dog fur flying through. Please excuse me. You can download. I have a how to say, no cheat sheets.
(30:51):
and a lot of people just like you asked, How do I say? No, and it's easier to have some sentence starters ready for you.
And then you can create your own from there. But I wanted to create just this super easy like
this is your go to like, I have clients that have it laminated. And it's on their office wall.
(31:15):
And they're just literally like, okay, how to how to. Okay, wait. I have this information. So II invite everyone to download that. And
yeah, II would love to to have these conversations with people. It's
it's something that was never talked about. Unfortunately, in a lot of people's chop child childhoods, childhoods. Yes, and it's time
(31:42):
it's time to have these conversations. It's time we we start making our our our own priorities a priority.
Marcia Riner | Profit Booster™️ (31:51):
Love it
so very, so very important, and so very valuable. I love the idea that your your clients have laminated and put it up on their wall as a as a reminder of the things that the boundaries that we should have. And as, especially in business, we're inundated with, Oh, I gotta do this or people coming in and going. Can you do this for me right?
(32:13):
Instead of owning your own time and your calendar, and getting the objectives that you have to achieve, as well as the objectives that your team and the people around you have to achieve. So, having that power to be able to say no and yes
to the things or yes, and to the things that are incredibly important to move you, your own personal life as well as your business life forward. So I love that alright listeners. I hope you found a couple of ideas to put into your business that will make you be more profitable. I know that this this skill set of being able to say yes and no at the appropriate times.
(32:49):
for you to be able to really thrive and take your business and your life to a new level
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and Cheryl and I would love to hear
the the the one. No, that changed your life, or maybe the one. Yes, that changed your life. Hit us up in the comments and tell us what that answer was, and and or or why you said that answer, and how it changed your life. We would love to hear your stories on that.
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Sheryl Green (33:53):
thank you.
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