March 8, 2024 • 29 mins
March continues with the dating stories that were supposed to stop in February, but are too good not to tell. Kelly and Chip also discuss the love triangle happening in the Cyrus family and one of Kelly’s biggest pet peeves in dating today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, good morning, Sunshine Rise and shine Chip just we
were supposed to record this morning, and ship texts me
and says, oh my god, I slept through two alarms,
And I said, how the fuck do you do? Die?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I think? I mean, I didn't realize that if your
ringers down low, that your alarm. Yeah, you don't hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
If the volume is down on your phone, Yeah, the
volumes down.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I mean that's a glitch. It should your alarm should
always work.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I mean it works, but it's just really quiet.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, I've never slept through alarm. I want to.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm gonna try that one again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I need to sleep, that's what needs to happen, right,
I have never slept through an alarm in my entire life.
Knock on wood. Now I'm going to jinx myself. That's
amazing the flight or something. Yeah, well, it's amazing. But
it's also because I'm not a very good sleeper, and
so when I know have to be up, or if
I hear the slightest change in sound in a room,
(01:05):
I wake up.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So you sleep with a noise machine, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That's why, because I need to have like consistent sounds, right, yeah,
but you on the other hand, are quite the sleeper.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I can sleep. I can sleep. I saw a lot
of logs while I'm doing it, Yeah, a lot of logs.
This is It was weird because I was going to
get up at six starting go to the gym this
morning and whoopsie oops.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, well this is going to be interesting because you're
halfway awake because you just woke up. I'm halfway awake
because I've been wrapping that show I've been working on
with Garth Brooks, and we have been like massively, like
the last week of filming is like they try to
get everything in or they've already gone into the edit
and they're doing like pick up scenes is what we call.
We said to go back and explain what was happening
(01:50):
in certain scenes, you know. And so it's just a
week of all of that because this is the last week,
and so cramming in, cramming and cramming in, and all
of the time I spent at a bar.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm like, you, Kelly kept a really fucking good secret.
I knew she. I knew that you were working with Garth,
but I had no idea what the project was.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh you didn't. I didn't even tell you no, Yeah,
I mean we had to sign an NDA, and so
I think I just got it like wired in my
brain not to talk about you know, like it was
sort of just whatever. And yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Then once I just assumed he was busy, because you know,
he's Garth, like he's.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Always Yeah, so I figured you were just.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Doing normal old ship for him. But well, I do.
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it's been really amazing, and like last night they
opened the bar for like a friend's and so okay
for any listener who doesn't know. Sorry, i'bout like everyone
knows exactly what's happening in my life all the time.
So I do hear and makeup and styling as a job.
And I started working with Garth Brooks and we've been
filming a show about the development of his bar downtown Nashville,
(02:53):
like on Broadway. Now, a lot of the artists are
starting to open their own bars, and I think people
have this assumption that the artist just puts their name
on it and you know, goes or whatever. And it's
interesting because both of my clients that have bars downtown,
which is Dirk Spentley and Garth Brooks now have been
a little more hands on in the process than I
(03:13):
think some of the artists were. Yeah, and like Garth
goes to another level. Like Garth is like picking out
the tile. He's picking up the faucet in the bathroom
on the third floor, like he is the time. He
doesn't wild. I'm like, you are the biggest He's a machine.
I mean, it is like it's been a next level
experience for me in a lot of ways. Like one,
(03:37):
just someone in that caliber of like famous, you know,
you never really know what to expect, like because once
you get to that level of success or fame or
money or whatever you want to say, like there's no
way it can't impact your lifestyle, right, Like right, Garth
Brooks can't go anywhere and just be like chill at
(03:58):
the dollar store on the street, you know what I mean.
It's like kind of like this next level kind of situation,
and it was It's been so refreshing because both he
and Trisha Yearwood, his wife, are just literally the most genuine, kind,
down to earth humans that I've been around in a
long time. Also, just like they have the most gratitude,
(04:20):
like positive attitudes to the point where you're like, are
you guys fucking real? Like how are y'all do y'all
have bad days? Like they're just so kind, and that
in and of itself has been such an amazing experience
for me. But then on the flip side, work getting
to work on this specific show with him and seeing
(04:40):
what I was just explaining, like how hands on he
is in the process, and then like how he goes
in the interview and he's explaining what's happening even he
is such a pro and so visionary and so like
business minded in this way that I've never experienced. Like
you were talking about one of our friends the other
day and you're like it's a masterclass ofmunication getting to
(05:00):
watch her deal with something. It's like that for me
with Garth, Like I'm sitting there taking notes while he
does interviews of things that he says about business, because
it's so smart, Like he is Garth Brooks for a reason.
It's not just because he like is a good entertainer
and can get up on stage like he busts his ass.
He's super smart. He's superhands on and with this specific project,
(05:23):
like I think in another life he could be an
architect or something like he builds their own houses, like
he's very like I said, visionary with that. So the
whole experience has been insane. This is the last week
of filming, though. The show goes out on Amazon Prime
March seventh. Shameless plug. If you guysn't watch, it's got
to see. Yeah, it's called Friends and Low Places. It's
(05:44):
all about the dive bar downtown and Garth and Trisha
are all up and it's been a blast. I'm sad
it's over, but I'm looking forward to sleeping. So there
you go, there you go. But we wanted to come
in this week. It was actually funny because Chip and
I are debating on all the the new topic. It's
a new month, obviously, it's March, and last month in
February we talked about dating and sex and like what
(06:06):
America was getting wrong or just kind of missing because
it was the month of love and that wrapped up
in February obviously, or so we thought. And then Chip
was like, I don't know, we got to do another
episode because so much weird shit is happening, So I
want to start a little bit with your experience, just
to pivot a little bit from our day to day
(06:27):
life into like this is maybe our spot is it
called the spotlight with the night life? I don't know what.
I don't know, you don't know what I'm trying to say.
Set my other alarm, Well, get away.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So what happened? Kelly doesn't know the story yet, so
I'm hearing it at real time, just like you guys.
So this past weekend I traveled for work and I
was in Phoenix first, and then I went to San Diego.
And you know, as one does when they're traveling, they
get on the apps to see if there's any fresh
meat in town. And I matched with this person who like,
(07:09):
right off for.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You one, I need to go back. Are you on
bumble because it has like the travel mode or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, when you're there, it's all geo locations. Oh fair, okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did you want to tell the listeners what a screw
in case anyone wants.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm on Grinder, Scruff and tender.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Grinder and or are the gay community?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah yeah, And I can't I think I met this
one on scruff. I can't remember, but his you know,
he just kind of from the jump seemed too good
to be true, and it's always a red flag. But
then you're like wait a minute, like, maybe he is true.
So I went with it and like chatted with him
(07:50):
and I was even like posing questions to see if
I could catch him in some sort of lie.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If you had this instinct, but he was also okay.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was funny because I have a coworker named Corey.
Corey was there, and I was keeping Corey abreast of
the whole thing. He's like, I love watching this play out,
and you know, like there was a weird sort of
language barrier, but it said in his profile that he
spoke German and some other language that I'd never heard
of that I had to google. It was an African language,
(08:23):
which I was like, okay, you know a lot of
a lot of times when people were like trying to
get you to do a scam, they're from African nations.
So I was like, okay, there's a little red flag there.
But everything and I was like, are you German and
he was like I am, I'm from Munich, And everything
I asked he had like a proper answer for it
was like very well thought out. But the other red
(08:45):
flag was he said he talked about cryptocurrency, which a
couple of other people that I was chatting with brought
up reading books about cryptocurrency, and I was like, this
guy is going to try and get me to invest
like he tells. He told me that his cousin went
to Harvard and studied finance. It is really deep into
cryptocurrency and this helped him get, you know, out of
(09:09):
some personal debt that he had acquired when he tried
to be entrepreneurial right before the pandemic. But he never
asked me. He never asked me for money or anything
like that. But I would say things like, yeah, I
don't really trust the crypto market, like I'm you know,
because I was like I don't want him to take
me down that path. And I straight up said like
are you for real? Like you seem too good to
(09:31):
be true, and he's like what do you mean? And
I was like, tell me something that you would be
scared to tell anyone else. He's like, I don't understand
what that question means. I was like, be vulnerable, and
he like he did it, and so then I was
vulnerable with him about something. And then the next morning,
I like wake up to a photo from him and
he's like, good morning, Chip, and it's like like.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
A real photo or.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like a dick pic, a real photo. There was never
any like deep saw his face. Well, I mean I
tried to face. I was like, we should FaceTime, and
he's like my ex and is so really thick. My
friends make fun of me, like you know, so he
was like hesitant to FaceTime. So no, I mean he
sent there were plenty of face picks, like he was like,
here's a pick of me and my mom. Anyway, so
(10:16):
my curiosity got the best of me, and I finally
was like, I'm on a Google image search and I
found two of the photos just on random website, So
I knew it was I knew he was fake, but like,
I mean, this is like three days into chatting.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Like like he was investing.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He was investing in me, and I was investing back
in him. And like he also offered to come visit
this weekend. He was like, I'll come to I'll come
to Nashville. I've come there often for work. I always
stay at the Hutton Hotel. I love the renovations, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
What this the detail?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There were so many details that made me believe that
it might be true. Okay, but my instinct was telling
me I'm getting half fished. And it was so weird.
But I was like, if I'm not getting catfish, this
guy is so hot and kind and like he had
lived in New York and he had just moved to Mesa.
He was an architect and he was working for an
(11:09):
architecture from oh. He also had his name was there
were like weird Claude was his his his actual name,
and that's what it said on his you know, profile,
and Claude, and which is funny because my mother's name
is Claudia and we call her Claude. But he was like,
but all of my friends call me Jack. So I
(11:31):
was like, well, do you want me to call you
claud or Jack? He's goes call me Jack, which was
my grandmother's name was Elsie Jackson Bull, and all of
her friends called her Jack.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So you're like the I was like, this is all.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
These weird signs, and so I just went with it
because I was like, the worst that I'm is going
to happen to me is always time. Like I'm smart
enough to know, like when this turns to a real
catfish situation, I'm out, yeah, because I'm already expecting it to.
But he'd offered to come visit and I was I
was like, well, I'm gonna I'm not going to be
in town. I'm going to be in the Bahamians. It's like, oh,
(12:03):
I'll come stay in the Bahamas too, and I was like, well,
I'm not going to exactly be in the Bahamas on
a boat this weekend. So you know, it just was
like there were a lot of things that made it
feel really real and but you know what I don't
under So ultimately I found the pictures, I called him out.
I was like, I thought it was odd that I
found your picture from a website on twenty thirteen, and
(12:25):
he just never responded. I'd like I kept trying to
like FaceTime him and he wouldn't answer. Just because now
I kind of want to torture him. I was like,
maybe I'll set alarms for really weird times of the
night and just like blow his phone up. But I
also have no idea where he is in terms of
time zones, and he also could just be like in
a you know, I don't know how these like catfishing
(12:47):
crime syndicates work, Like there could be they could use
a program.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That he's not even a real person. So so you
think ultimately he was trying to get money from you.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, I think that's always the goal. Like he was
probably going to tell me like how he could. He
was probably going to send me like some sort of
like spreadsheet to show me how quickly he can make
money on and get me to invest in something, and
then he would just disappear. I think that's really what happens.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Remember when I got scammed not that long ago, Like
what is happening in our world?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean, it's what's wild to me is what is
like what is the end game? You know, it's it's
all money. He always be about money, but like he
invested three full days in me for not a cent
right now, and I just like, how much money can
you make doing it?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I guess if you need to work on his time management?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Seriously, he should have gotten right to it with the crypto,
right you know?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean he can't. You can't because then people are suspicious.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right right? People? I feel like people are the ones
who end up falling for it. And maybe this is
a generalization because I did. There was a story a
couple of weeks ago about some like financial guru who
got scammed because I forget it was like at and
(14:12):
T she believed that like AT and T had called her.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, it's probably like what they did to me. You
remember that there was a whole episode we did where
I got called and they were pretending to be cops
and telling me they had had my signature about the
subpoena I had for court about a fraud with my
PPP lums and I missed my court date and so
now I was in severe shit and I was freaking out,
(14:38):
drove all the way downtown to the police station to
turn myself in basically, and then they try to get
money out of me, and I was like, wait a second,
but it wasn't. It was a three hour ordeal for sure.
I had my lawyer involved. It was like, it's so widild.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But I'm glad they even knew that you had a
PPP lom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But that's all pub acknowledge. See, I didn't know that either,
but they can even because they know like the date
you got it, the amount. Our government kind of fucked
up with that because yeah, that information being public is
not good. But yeah, so that's crazy that It's interesting
to me that you said your instincts, Like, it's funny
that we try to convince ourselves to do something different
(15:22):
than what our body is telling us. You know, we're like, ah,
but maybe I should still give it a chance, Like
your body just knows mine before your intuition, before whatever.
And somehow I do this all the time, like I
try to talk myself into believing whatever my body is
like no to.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
One hundred percent. That's why I told Corey about it,
because I was like, it's actually kind of funny that
I'm leaning into it, and I felt like it would
make me feel like less of a fool when I
finally learned that I was right by having admitted to
the fact that I thought I was getting scammed.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean, you're double scorpio, you're basically psychic, so you
need to just start trusting yourself right that scorpio energy. Wow,
Oh and your pisces. I mean, if you're not psychic,
I don't know who is.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Tap in, bitch, tap in.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, I'm I'm glad that you did not get catfished. Fully,
I'm so curious, like how do they pick whose pictures
they're going to send? You know, Like I'm this guy,
like hottest girl there.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Is I I kind of want to post the photos
and be like, I need to I.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Need to find this man, who are you actually because.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yes, because he's so handsome, and like, if he's anywhere
near the person that this person created, then I want.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
To go on a date with this guy. No Chancey's single,
you know right right? Well photos later, So we basically
have people being catfished on one hand, and then on
the other hand, he sent me this article about which
I'm sure everybody listening unless you live under a rock,
you've heard about this. But Tish Cyrus, who is Miley
(17:00):
Cyrus's mom? Just I guess this wasn't actually just this
was about six months ago, got married to an actor
from the show prison Break who had previously dated her daughter.
Not Miley, not Miley, Noah, noah, Okay. I have so
many red flags about the situation to begin with, but
it's like, it's very difficult because obviously we're not in
(17:23):
the situation. I always want to put this disclaimer on
things because just because you read stuff in a freaking
tabloid does not mean it's true. Trust me from life experience.
They will lie about anything for a story. So I
want to say we don't actually know fully what's going on. Here,
But what the articles are saying and just in the
(17:45):
press in general, is that Noah Cyrus had like a
fling she maybe wasn't like dating. Yeah, kind of friends
with benefits is what I read. But so she's cooking
up with this guy, Dominique Parcell. Is that his name? Parcel?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yep Percell?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, number one.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He's double her age, so like she's twenty four, he's fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Four, right, which I mean, I know it works for
some people. I'm not trying to be the girl that
judges that. I just always sort of have like a
little bit of a red flag situation when there's such
an age gap, because ultimately you're just in different periods
of your life, right, So it's like something always is
a little like, okay, let me figure out what's happening
here to begin with there, so he already went on
(18:27):
my radar from dating her in general, just like that's
a massive age gap. What's going on with you, buddy?
Do you not want to grow up?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So then there's that piece of it. Well then I
don't know if there was actually crossover or what, but
her Miley and Noah's mom starts dating dominant and it's
like Okay, so your daughter has already had sex with
this person and she knew about it, and then she
(18:57):
starts to date him, and then they got married.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They got married, Miley planned the wedding and didn't know
about the love triangle.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh what see I'm reading. This is where I'm saying,
you can't believe what you read in the press, because
I've read such conflicting stories that Miley knew the whole time,
but she did help to keep Noah, didn't even get
to go to her mom's wedding, and there's like now
they're not even speaking and there's all this stuff, and
I'm sure there's more to the story, and who knows
if this is even true, but it's just sort of like,
(19:27):
in what world is there a man that's worthy of
breaking up your fucking family like that? This is my
rant I guess about what's wrong with our dating society.
And what I said to you was like, this is
what's so sad is that because there's this mentality of
(19:48):
like men need to get their shit together or there's
no good men out there, women are getting so desperate
to find anyone that we're like accepting shit that is
just completely unacceptable because we don't want to be alone, right,
and it's sad. I'm like, oh my god, Tish, what
the fuck, There's no chance this guy is that great.
(20:10):
There's just no chance because he would date a daughter
and then marry a mother. Like, something is wrong with
this man right like.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Him?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know, That's how I feel. I'm like, this guy
seems like a loser, Like what is happening? But there
is this this mentality and it's like I've had to
really talk myself out of it too. But I think
that unfortunately, part of the patriarchy This is totally my opinion,
but I'm about to go on a rant. To stay
with me. Part of the patriarchy issue is that women
(20:43):
and other yeah, women have had to evolve to like
grow and like fight for our rights and find a
voice in the workplace and fight for equal rights and
all of that stuff, and men have just been able
to like coast and do them and work and whatever.
And then what's happened now is we have evolved past men,
(21:04):
is what I think. And so I think men are behind.
I don't think men suck. I don't think men are
like all fucked up or there's no good men out there.
I don't think that at all. But I do think
women as a whole have seemingly evolved a little bit
past where men have because we've had to. And so now,
like a lot of the situations I get in are
that my friends are in. It's like men are emotionally
(21:27):
like less mature or not able to like balance as
much as we are or whatever, and we can't work together.
Then women are going into their masculine energy way too much,
and we're like, well, we don't need men, you know.
It's like that kind of situation, right, This is like
perpetual cycle that's happening. But like the number one issue
is like that we're accepting fucking breadcrumbs as you know,
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the end all be all, and then it's just like
continuing the cycle because men never have to grow. If
if you can fuck my daughter and I'm still going
to marry you, why would he ever get his shit together? Like,
I just don't get it. I see like all my
friends and I talking about these situations, and it's like
you're literally accepting the worst behavior and then he does
(22:12):
one tiny thing that's good and we're like, oh my god,
but look at that, and then he lets you down again,
and it's just like, well, all men suck and it's like, no,
you are like not helping the situation because you're accepting
this behavior as normal and continuing in the relationship. So
what's ever going to change?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean at least he didn't try to
sell her currency, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
How do you know?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, maybe she's so in debt now that she had
to marry him. Like that's that's the like, that's the
story that's going to come out. Was like they're all
being catfished, not even really dominate purcel, right.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We're like they're just using his likeness, his pictures. Yeah,
I don't know. I just can't imagine. I'm like, he
cannot his dick cannot be that good, Okay, Like I.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Don't Yeah, I mean it's I mean obviously, it's like
I feel like, in terms of pop culture and tabloids
and stuff, like the Cyrus family is like ripe for it,
you know, Like so they're the they're the ones whose
names are really you know, in the headlines, and it's
more salacious to be like mom Mary's daughter's boyfriend, you know.
(23:20):
But like I think if I mean, obviously this isn't
a crime, but I'm going to use the word crime,
like if there's a crime being committed here, it's on
his part one hundred percent, because I'd like, I have
a really hard time believing that, Like Tish Cyrus is like,
how am I going to steal my daughter's boyfriend? Like
he was in her ear and building, you know, like
(23:42):
he probably met Tish through his relationship with Noah.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And that's fucked up.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And then I know, but look, there's also like you
could argue that if Noah is anything like her mom,
there are qualities about them both that they share and
I know, I know it's really gross, and I'm not
trying to justify it. I'm just trying to like get
in his head, like how do you do this? Like
how does this happen?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You're a sociopath? Yeah, it's like, I mean, I don't know.
Something is off. I still I think I hold Tish
to blame a little bit as well.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Tish should have known better, he should have just been
off limits, like right, g my fucking daughter, Like I
could do better than that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And I mean that's hard because we don't know the
nature of their relationship. But if they've crossed physical lines,
as a mother. It's just weird. The whole thing is
just really creepy and weird. And I guess she to me,
the reason I hold Tish like on the string is
that what you say, what.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
She holds the responsibility?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, the reason I put her there, whatever you want
to say, is because oh, how to point? Where did
it go?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, she's a mom, she should be leading by example. Yeah,
you know what I mean, But I don't have that's
the point that you were going to have.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It wasn't the point I was gonna make. It's just
sort of I just there's a million feet Oh, this
is what I was gonna say. Sorry, y'all, I mean
brain dead. But like, at what point do you think
that a man coming in is more important than your
relationship with your daughter?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It is a great point to me.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm like that I would never value any man above
my family like that. Like, that's just not And if
if there's a past, you would either need to discuss
with Noah beforehand and be like, look, and we don't
know that she didn't do that. I mean that could
have happened.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I read in one I read in one article that
Noah was actually at the wedding and she wore a
Billy Ray Cyrus T shirt to the wedding.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Which that's a rumor because I read I loved it.
We're like, no, I read that, because I read that
that was when she was at a grocery store during
the wedding weekend. Got it and it was like a
fuck you because she wanted to be photographed like that,
like she's picking her dad's side. They're apparently having falling
out with Billy Ray. Til. I don't even know what's
happening over with the Cyrus clan, but I'm sure we're
not getting the full story.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Is all totally yeah, it's I mean, honestly, it's none
of our business. But I just thought it was a
really interesting, like sort of relationship thing that popped up
and was part of pop culture, and I was like,
we should talk about this.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, it's just it's the kind of goes in line
with what we were talking about last month, which is
just because we don't grow and like learn new things,
or we don't teach how to have like relationship skills
in early life. It is put on the parents. And
if you're not getting that at home, you're just going
to make all these decisions as an adult that are
(26:35):
crazy and insane and like trying to get your needs
met in whatever way you can. But most of the time,
if we don't learn new tools as adults, we're just
choosing what we would choose as like a child or
an adolescent or you know what I mean. And so
that to me looks like what's playing out here is
like hish maybe got divorced. Is like I don't know
what her dating life has looked like. And all of
(26:56):
a sudden, here comes this guy. I'm assuming he is
very charming. I would I would go out on the
limb and guess he's probably a narcissist. That's my guess.
Is like he has this like charm, this way about him,
and she fell for it, and it's making it's you know,
like kind of fucks up your brain and you start
making decisions based on needs in the moment versus like
(27:18):
bigger picture things like oh right, I have a relationship
with a daughter who also dated this guy, Like does
it seem like she's seeing clearly you know what I mean. No, So, anyway,
that's all the things that are happening. We actually just
wanted you guys, feedback on these situations, like has anything
like this ever happened to you? Have you been catfished?
(27:39):
Has your mom dated your boyfriend? Has she married? If
there's other stories like that, I don't know what to
think about it, but yeah, or the kind of the
rant that I went on, like when are we as
women going to rally together and start setting boundaries? Like
if all of us do it, it feels like, okay,
then maybe things will change. But if one of us
(28:00):
is doing it and the other ones aren't, then it's
just like the bad behavior just continues, and I think
it's time. We just need men to step up. That's
what I say, That's what I really say.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, look, if you're Dominic Purcell, like, there
are plenty of women, There are plenty of fish in
the sea, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Why are you having to go after two cyrus people?
Who's next? You know what if Brandy Miley all of them.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He actually turns out gay and date's one of the suns.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Oh my god, him and Billy Ray end up together
after all this, that would be a twist. That's a
reality show I'd watched. Okay, we've taken a turn anyway,
if you guys could call us leave us a voicemail.
I really want to know what you guys think about this.
I'm going to put the link to our voicemail in
the description of this podcast. Also, you can find it
on my Instagram and the link in bio. My instagram
(28:54):
is at Velvet's Edge. You can also find it on
chips Instagram, which.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Is chip doorshe H R P D O R S C.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
H and a's You guys go into the weekend and
you're living on the edge. I hope you always remember to.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Act casual, wake up to your alarms.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Bye bye,
Well, good morning, Sunshine Rise and shine Chip just we
were supposed to record this morning, and ship texts me
and says, oh my god, I slept through two alarms,
And I said, how the fuck do you do? Die?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I think? I mean, I didn't realize that if your
ringers down low, that your alarm. Yeah, you don't hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
If the volume is down on your phone, Yeah, the
volumes down.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I mean that's a glitch. It should your alarm should
always work.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I mean it works, but it's just really quiet.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, I've never slept through alarm. I want to.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm gonna try that one again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I need to sleep, that's what needs to happen, right,
I have never slept through an alarm in my entire life.
Knock on wood. Now I'm going to jinx myself. That's
amazing the flight or something. Yeah, well, it's amazing. But
it's also because I'm not a very good sleeper, and
so when I know have to be up, or if
I hear the slightest change in sound in a room,
(01:05):
I wake up.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So you sleep with a noise machine, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That's why, because I need to have like consistent sounds, right, yeah,
but you on the other hand, are quite the sleeper.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I can sleep. I can sleep. I saw a lot
of logs while I'm doing it, Yeah, a lot of logs.
This is It was weird because I was going to
get up at six starting go to the gym this
morning and whoopsie oops.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, well this is going to be interesting because you're
halfway awake because you just woke up. I'm halfway awake
because I've been wrapping that show I've been working on
with Garth Brooks, and we have been like massively, like
the last week of filming is like they try to
get everything in or they've already gone into the edit
and they're doing like pick up scenes is what we call.
We said to go back and explain what was happening
(01:50):
in certain scenes, you know. And so it's just a
week of all of that because this is the last week,
and so cramming in, cramming and cramming in, and all
of the time I spent at a bar.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm like, you, Kelly kept a really fucking good secret.
I knew she. I knew that you were working with Garth,
but I had no idea what the project was.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh you didn't. I didn't even tell you no, Yeah,
I mean we had to sign an NDA, and so
I think I just got it like wired in my
brain not to talk about you know, like it was
sort of just whatever. And yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Then once I just assumed he was busy, because you know,
he's Garth, like he's.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Always Yeah, so I figured you were just.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Doing normal old ship for him. But well, I do.
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it's been really amazing, and like last night they
opened the bar for like a friend's and so okay
for any listener who doesn't know. Sorry, i'bout like everyone
knows exactly what's happening in my life all the time.
So I do hear and makeup and styling as a job.
And I started working with Garth Brooks and we've been
filming a show about the development of his bar downtown Nashville,
(02:53):
like on Broadway. Now, a lot of the artists are
starting to open their own bars, and I think people
have this assumption that the artist just puts their name
on it and you know, goes or whatever. And it's
interesting because both of my clients that have bars downtown,
which is Dirk Spentley and Garth Brooks now have been
a little more hands on in the process than I
(03:13):
think some of the artists were. Yeah, and like Garth
goes to another level. Like Garth is like picking out
the tile. He's picking up the faucet in the bathroom
on the third floor, like he is the time. He
doesn't wild. I'm like, you are the biggest He's a machine.
I mean, it is like it's been a next level
experience for me in a lot of ways. Like one,
(03:37):
just someone in that caliber of like famous, you know,
you never really know what to expect, like because once
you get to that level of success or fame or
money or whatever you want to say, like there's no
way it can't impact your lifestyle, right, Like right, Garth
Brooks can't go anywhere and just be like chill at
(03:58):
the dollar store on the street, you know what I mean.
It's like kind of like this next level kind of situation,
and it was It's been so refreshing because both he
and Trisha Yearwood, his wife, are just literally the most genuine, kind,
down to earth humans that I've been around in a
long time. Also, just like they have the most gratitude,
(04:20):
like positive attitudes to the point where you're like, are
you guys fucking real? Like how are y'all do y'all
have bad days? Like they're just so kind, and that
in and of itself has been such an amazing experience
for me. But then on the flip side, work getting
to work on this specific show with him and seeing
(04:40):
what I was just explaining, like how hands on he
is in the process, and then like how he goes
in the interview and he's explaining what's happening even he
is such a pro and so visionary and so like
business minded in this way that I've never experienced. Like
you were talking about one of our friends the other
day and you're like it's a masterclass ofmunication getting to
(05:00):
watch her deal with something. It's like that for me
with Garth, Like I'm sitting there taking notes while he
does interviews of things that he says about business, because
it's so smart, Like he is Garth Brooks for a reason.
It's not just because he like is a good entertainer
and can get up on stage like he busts his ass.
He's super smart. He's superhands on and with this specific project,
(05:23):
like I think in another life he could be an
architect or something like he builds their own houses, like
he's very like I said, visionary with that. So the
whole experience has been insane. This is the last week
of filming, though. The show goes out on Amazon Prime
March seventh. Shameless plug. If you guysn't watch, it's got
to see. Yeah, it's called Friends and Low Places. It's
(05:44):
all about the dive bar downtown and Garth and Trisha
are all up and it's been a blast. I'm sad
it's over, but I'm looking forward to sleeping. So there
you go, there you go. But we wanted to come
in this week. It was actually funny because Chip and
I are debating on all the the new topic. It's
a new month, obviously, it's March, and last month in
February we talked about dating and sex and like what
(06:06):
America was getting wrong or just kind of missing because
it was the month of love and that wrapped up
in February obviously, or so we thought. And then Chip
was like, I don't know, we got to do another
episode because so much weird shit is happening, So I
want to start a little bit with your experience, just
to pivot a little bit from our day to day
(06:27):
life into like this is maybe our spot is it
called the spotlight with the night life? I don't know what.
I don't know, you don't know what I'm trying to say.
Set my other alarm, Well, get away.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So what happened? Kelly doesn't know the story yet, so
I'm hearing it at real time, just like you guys.
So this past weekend I traveled for work and I
was in Phoenix first, and then I went to San Diego.
And you know, as one does when they're traveling, they
get on the apps to see if there's any fresh
meat in town. And I matched with this person who like,
(07:09):
right off for.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You one, I need to go back. Are you on
bumble because it has like the travel mode or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, when you're there, it's all geo locations. Oh fair, okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did you want to tell the listeners what a screw
in case anyone wants.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm on Grinder, Scruff and tender.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Grinder and or are the gay community?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah yeah, And I can't I think I met this
one on scruff. I can't remember, but his you know,
he just kind of from the jump seemed too good
to be true, and it's always a red flag. But
then you're like wait a minute, like, maybe he is true.
So I went with it and like chatted with him
(07:50):
and I was even like posing questions to see if
I could catch him in some sort of lie.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If you had this instinct, but he was also okay.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was funny because I have a coworker named Corey.
Corey was there, and I was keeping Corey abreast of
the whole thing. He's like, I love watching this play out,
and you know, like there was a weird sort of
language barrier, but it said in his profile that he
spoke German and some other language that I'd never heard
of that I had to google. It was an African language,
(08:23):
which I was like, okay, you know a lot of
a lot of times when people were like trying to
get you to do a scam, they're from African nations.
So I was like, okay, there's a little red flag there.
But everything and I was like, are you German and
he was like I am, I'm from Munich, And everything
I asked he had like a proper answer for it
was like very well thought out. But the other red
(08:45):
flag was he said he talked about cryptocurrency, which a
couple of other people that I was chatting with brought
up reading books about cryptocurrency, and I was like, this
guy is going to try and get me to invest
like he tells. He told me that his cousin went
to Harvard and studied finance. It is really deep into
cryptocurrency and this helped him get, you know, out of
(09:09):
some personal debt that he had acquired when he tried
to be entrepreneurial right before the pandemic. But he never
asked me. He never asked me for money or anything
like that. But I would say things like, yeah, I
don't really trust the crypto market, like I'm you know,
because I was like I don't want him to take
me down that path. And I straight up said like
are you for real? Like you seem too good to
(09:31):
be true, and he's like what do you mean? And
I was like, tell me something that you would be
scared to tell anyone else. He's like, I don't understand
what that question means. I was like, be vulnerable, and
he like he did it, and so then I was
vulnerable with him about something. And then the next morning,
I like wake up to a photo from him and
he's like, good morning, Chip, and it's like like.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
A real photo or.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like a dick pic, a real photo. There was never
any like deep saw his face. Well, I mean I
tried to face. I was like, we should FaceTime, and
he's like my ex and is so really thick. My
friends make fun of me, like you know, so he
was like hesitant to FaceTime. So no, I mean he
sent there were plenty of face picks, like he was like,
here's a pick of me and my mom. Anyway, so
(10:16):
my curiosity got the best of me, and I finally
was like, I'm on a Google image search and I
found two of the photos just on random website, So
I knew it was I knew he was fake, but like,
I mean, this is like three days into chatting.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Like like he was investing.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He was investing in me, and I was investing back
in him. And like he also offered to come visit
this weekend. He was like, I'll come to I'll come
to Nashville. I've come there often for work. I always
stay at the Hutton Hotel. I love the renovations, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
What this the detail?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There were so many details that made me believe that
it might be true. Okay, but my instinct was telling
me I'm getting half fished. And it was so weird.
But I was like, if I'm not getting catfish, this
guy is so hot and kind and like he had
lived in New York and he had just moved to Mesa.
He was an architect and he was working for an
(11:09):
architecture from oh. He also had his name was there
were like weird Claude was his his his actual name,
and that's what it said on his you know, profile,
and Claude, and which is funny because my mother's name
is Claudia and we call her Claude. But he was like,
but all of my friends call me Jack. So I
(11:31):
was like, well, do you want me to call you
claud or Jack? He's goes call me Jack, which was
my grandmother's name was Elsie Jackson Bull, and all of
her friends called her Jack.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So you're like the I was like, this is all.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
These weird signs, and so I just went with it
because I was like, the worst that I'm is going
to happen to me is always time. Like I'm smart
enough to know, like when this turns to a real
catfish situation, I'm out, yeah, because I'm already expecting it to.
But he'd offered to come visit and I was I
was like, well, I'm gonna I'm not going to be
in town. I'm going to be in the Bahamians. It's like, oh,
(12:03):
I'll come stay in the Bahamas too, and I was like, well,
I'm not going to exactly be in the Bahamas on
a boat this weekend. So you know, it just was
like there were a lot of things that made it
feel really real and but you know what I don't
under So ultimately I found the pictures, I called him out.
I was like, I thought it was odd that I
found your picture from a website on twenty thirteen, and
(12:25):
he just never responded. I'd like I kept trying to
like FaceTime him and he wouldn't answer. Just because now
I kind of want to torture him. I was like,
maybe I'll set alarms for really weird times of the
night and just like blow his phone up. But I
also have no idea where he is in terms of
time zones, and he also could just be like in
a you know, I don't know how these like catfishing
(12:47):
crime syndicates work, Like there could be they could use
a program.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That he's not even a real person. So so you
think ultimately he was trying to get money from you.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, I think that's always the goal. Like he was
probably going to tell me like how he could. He
was probably going to send me like some sort of
like spreadsheet to show me how quickly he can make
money on and get me to invest in something, and
then he would just disappear. I think that's really what happens.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Remember when I got scammed not that long ago, Like
what is happening in our world?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean, it's what's wild to me is what is
like what is the end game? You know, it's it's
all money. He always be about money, but like he
invested three full days in me for not a cent
right now, and I just like, how much money can
you make doing it?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I guess if you need to work on his time management?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Seriously, he should have gotten right to it with the crypto,
right you know?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean he can't. You can't because then people are suspicious.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right right? People? I feel like people are the ones
who end up falling for it. And maybe this is
a generalization because I did. There was a story a
couple of weeks ago about some like financial guru who
got scammed because I forget it was like at and
(14:12):
T she believed that like AT and T had called her.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, it's probably like what they did to me. You
remember that there was a whole episode we did where
I got called and they were pretending to be cops
and telling me they had had my signature about the
subpoena I had for court about a fraud with my
PPP lums and I missed my court date and so
now I was in severe shit and I was freaking out,
(14:38):
drove all the way downtown to the police station to
turn myself in basically, and then they try to get
money out of me, and I was like, wait a second,
but it wasn't. It was a three hour ordeal for sure.
I had my lawyer involved. It was like, it's so widild.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But I'm glad they even knew that you had a
PPP lom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But that's all pub acknowledge. See, I didn't know that either,
but they can even because they know like the date
you got it, the amount. Our government kind of fucked
up with that because yeah, that information being public is
not good. But yeah, so that's crazy that It's interesting
to me that you said your instincts, Like, it's funny
that we try to convince ourselves to do something different
(15:22):
than what our body is telling us. You know, we're like, ah,
but maybe I should still give it a chance, Like
your body just knows mine before your intuition, before whatever.
And somehow I do this all the time, like I
try to talk myself into believing whatever my body is
like no to.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
One hundred percent. That's why I told Corey about it,
because I was like, it's actually kind of funny that
I'm leaning into it, and I felt like it would
make me feel like less of a fool when I
finally learned that I was right by having admitted to
the fact that I thought I was getting scammed.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean, you're double scorpio, you're basically psychic, so you
need to just start trusting yourself right that scorpio energy. Wow,
Oh and your pisces. I mean, if you're not psychic,
I don't know who is.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Tap in, bitch, tap in.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, I'm I'm glad that you did not get catfished. Fully,
I'm so curious, like how do they pick whose pictures
they're going to send? You know, Like I'm this guy,
like hottest girl there.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Is I I kind of want to post the photos
and be like, I need to I.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Need to find this man, who are you actually because.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yes, because he's so handsome, and like, if he's anywhere
near the person that this person created, then I want.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
To go on a date with this guy. No Chancey's single,
you know right right? Well photos later, So we basically
have people being catfished on one hand, and then on
the other hand, he sent me this article about which
I'm sure everybody listening unless you live under a rock,
you've heard about this. But Tish Cyrus, who is Miley
(17:00):
Cyrus's mom? Just I guess this wasn't actually just this
was about six months ago, got married to an actor
from the show prison Break who had previously dated her daughter.
Not Miley, not Miley, Noah, noah, Okay. I have so
many red flags about the situation to begin with, but
it's like, it's very difficult because obviously we're not in
(17:23):
the situation. I always want to put this disclaimer on
things because just because you read stuff in a freaking
tabloid does not mean it's true. Trust me from life experience.
They will lie about anything for a story. So I
want to say we don't actually know fully what's going on. Here,
But what the articles are saying and just in the
(17:45):
press in general, is that Noah Cyrus had like a
fling she maybe wasn't like dating. Yeah, kind of friends
with benefits is what I read. But so she's cooking
up with this guy, Dominique Parcell. Is that his name? Parcel?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yep Percell?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, number one.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He's double her age, so like she's twenty four, he's fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Four, right, which I mean, I know it works for
some people. I'm not trying to be the girl that
judges that. I just always sort of have like a
little bit of a red flag situation when there's such
an age gap, because ultimately you're just in different periods
of your life, right, So it's like something always is
a little like, okay, let me figure out what's happening
here to begin with there, so he already went on
(18:27):
my radar from dating her in general, just like that's
a massive age gap. What's going on with you, buddy?
Do you not want to grow up?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So then there's that piece of it. Well then I
don't know if there was actually crossover or what, but
her Miley and Noah's mom starts dating dominant and it's
like Okay, so your daughter has already had sex with
this person and she knew about it, and then she
(18:57):
starts to date him, and then they got married.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They got married, Miley planned the wedding and didn't know
about the love triangle.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh what see I'm reading. This is where I'm saying,
you can't believe what you read in the press, because
I've read such conflicting stories that Miley knew the whole time,
but she did help to keep Noah, didn't even get
to go to her mom's wedding, and there's like now
they're not even speaking and there's all this stuff, and
I'm sure there's more to the story, and who knows
if this is even true, but it's just sort of like,
(19:27):
in what world is there a man that's worthy of
breaking up your fucking family like that? This is my
rant I guess about what's wrong with our dating society.
And what I said to you was like, this is
what's so sad is that because there's this mentality of
(19:48):
like men need to get their shit together or there's
no good men out there, women are getting so desperate
to find anyone that we're like accepting shit that is
just completely unacceptable because we don't want to be alone, right,
and it's sad. I'm like, oh my god, Tish, what
the fuck, There's no chance this guy is that great.
(20:10):
There's just no chance because he would date a daughter
and then marry a mother. Like, something is wrong with
this man right like.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Him?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know, That's how I feel. I'm like, this guy
seems like a loser, Like what is happening? But there
is this this mentality and it's like I've had to
really talk myself out of it too. But I think
that unfortunately, part of the patriarchy This is totally my opinion,
but I'm about to go on a rant. To stay
with me. Part of the patriarchy issue is that women
(20:43):
and other yeah, women have had to evolve to like
grow and like fight for our rights and find a
voice in the workplace and fight for equal rights and
all of that stuff, and men have just been able
to like coast and do them and work and whatever.
And then what's happened now is we have evolved past men,
(21:04):
is what I think. And so I think men are behind.
I don't think men suck. I don't think men are
like all fucked up or there's no good men out there.
I don't think that at all. But I do think
women as a whole have seemingly evolved a little bit
past where men have because we've had to. And so now,
like a lot of the situations I get in are
that my friends are in. It's like men are emotionally
(21:27):
like less mature or not able to like balance as
much as we are or whatever, and we can't work together.
Then women are going into their masculine energy way too much,
and we're like, well, we don't need men, you know.
It's like that kind of situation, right, This is like
perpetual cycle that's happening. But like the number one issue
is like that we're accepting fucking breadcrumbs as you know,
(21:49):
the end all be all, and then it's just like
continuing the cycle because men never have to grow. If
if you can fuck my daughter and I'm still going
to marry you, why would he ever get his shit together? Like,
I just don't get it. I see like all my
friends and I talking about these situations, and it's like
you're literally accepting the worst behavior and then he does
(22:12):
one tiny thing that's good and we're like, oh my god,
but look at that, and then he lets you down again,
and it's just like, well, all men suck and it's like, no,
you are like not helping the situation because you're accepting
this behavior as normal and continuing in the relationship. So
what's ever going to change?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean at least he didn't try to
sell her currency, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
How do you know?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, maybe she's so in debt now that she had
to marry him. Like that's that's the like, that's the
story that's going to come out. Was like they're all
being catfished, not even really dominate purcel, right.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We're like they're just using his likeness, his pictures. Yeah,
I don't know. I just can't imagine. I'm like, he
cannot his dick cannot be that good, Okay, Like I.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Don't Yeah, I mean it's I mean obviously, it's like
I feel like, in terms of pop culture and tabloids
and stuff, like the Cyrus family is like ripe for it,
you know, Like so they're the they're the ones whose
names are really you know, in the headlines, and it's
more salacious to be like mom Mary's daughter's boyfriend, you know.
(23:20):
But like I think if I mean, obviously this isn't
a crime, but I'm going to use the word crime,
like if there's a crime being committed here, it's on
his part one hundred percent, because I'd like, I have
a really hard time believing that, Like Tish Cyrus is like,
how am I going to steal my daughter's boyfriend? Like
he was in her ear and building, you know, like
(23:42):
he probably met Tish through his relationship with Noah.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And that's fucked up.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And then I know, but look, there's also like you
could argue that if Noah is anything like her mom,
there are qualities about them both that they share and
I know, I know it's really gross, and I'm not
trying to justify it. I'm just trying to like get
in his head, like how do you do this? Like
how does this happen?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You're a sociopath? Yeah, it's like, I mean, I don't know.
Something is off. I still I think I hold Tish
to blame a little bit as well.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Tish should have known better, he should have just been
off limits, like right, g my fucking daughter, Like I
could do better than that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And I mean that's hard because we don't know the
nature of their relationship. But if they've crossed physical lines,
as a mother. It's just weird. The whole thing is
just really creepy and weird. And I guess she to me,
the reason I hold Tish like on the string is
that what you say, what.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
She holds the responsibility?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, the reason I put her there, whatever you want
to say, is because oh, how to point? Where did
it go?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, she's a mom, she should be leading by example. Yeah,
you know what I mean, But I don't have that's
the point that you were going to have.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It wasn't the point I was gonna make. It's just
sort of I just there's a million feet Oh, this
is what I was gonna say. Sorry, y'all, I mean
brain dead. But like, at what point do you think
that a man coming in is more important than your
relationship with your daughter?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It is a great point to me.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm like that I would never value any man above
my family like that. Like, that's just not And if
if there's a past, you would either need to discuss
with Noah beforehand and be like, look, and we don't
know that she didn't do that. I mean that could
have happened.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I read in one I read in one article that
Noah was actually at the wedding and she wore a
Billy Ray Cyrus T shirt to the wedding.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Which that's a rumor because I read I loved it.
We're like, no, I read that, because I read that
that was when she was at a grocery store during
the wedding weekend. Got it and it was like a
fuck you because she wanted to be photographed like that,
like she's picking her dad's side. They're apparently having falling
out with Billy Ray. Til. I don't even know what's
happening over with the Cyrus clan, but I'm sure we're
not getting the full story.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Is all totally yeah, it's I mean, honestly, it's none
of our business. But I just thought it was a
really interesting, like sort of relationship thing that popped up
and was part of pop culture, and I was like,
we should talk about this.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, it's just it's the kind of goes in line
with what we were talking about last month, which is
just because we don't grow and like learn new things,
or we don't teach how to have like relationship skills
in early life. It is put on the parents. And
if you're not getting that at home, you're just going
to make all these decisions as an adult that are
(26:35):
crazy and insane and like trying to get your needs
met in whatever way you can. But most of the time,
if we don't learn new tools as adults, we're just
choosing what we would choose as like a child or
an adolescent or you know what I mean. And so
that to me looks like what's playing out here is
like hish maybe got divorced. Is like I don't know
what her dating life has looked like. And all of
(26:56):
a sudden, here comes this guy. I'm assuming he is
very charming. I would I would go out on the
limb and guess he's probably a narcissist. That's my guess.
Is like he has this like charm, this way about him,
and she fell for it, and it's making it's you know,
like kind of fucks up your brain and you start
making decisions based on needs in the moment versus like
(27:18):
bigger picture things like oh right, I have a relationship
with a daughter who also dated this guy, Like does
it seem like she's seeing clearly you know what I mean. No, So, anyway,
that's all the things that are happening. We actually just
wanted you guys, feedback on these situations, like has anything
like this ever happened to you? Have you been catfished?
(27:39):
Has your mom dated your boyfriend? Has she married? If
there's other stories like that, I don't know what to
think about it, but yeah, or the kind of the
rant that I went on, like when are we as
women going to rally together and start setting boundaries? Like
if all of us do it, it feels like, okay,
then maybe things will change. But if one of us
(28:00):
is doing it and the other ones aren't, then it's
just like the bad behavior just continues, and I think
it's time. We just need men to step up. That's
what I say, That's what I really say.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, look, if you're Dominic Purcell, like, there
are plenty of women, There are plenty of fish in
the sea, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Why are you having to go after two cyrus people?
Who's next? You know what if Brandy Miley all of them.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He actually turns out gay and date's one of the suns.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Oh my god, him and Billy Ray end up together
after all this, that would be a twist. That's a
reality show I'd watched. Okay, we've taken a turn anyway,
if you guys could call us leave us a voicemail.
I really want to know what you guys think about this.
I'm going to put the link to our voicemail in
the description of this podcast. Also, you can find it
on my Instagram and the link in bio. My instagram
(28:54):
is at Velvet's Edge. You can also find it on
chips Instagram, which.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Is chip doorshe H R P D O R S C.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
H and a's You guys go into the weekend and
you're living on the edge. I hope you always remember to.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Act casual, wake up to your alarms.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Bye bye,
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