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News topic du jour:

Glucose or Insulin, Which Is the Culprit in Patients with COVID-19 and Diabetes?

"Several comorbidities have emerged as risk factors for severe COVID-19 development, including type 2 diabetes, increased body weight, hypertension, and dyslipidemia. These illnesses characterize the metabolic syndrome. Thereby, increased glucose concentrations may be responsible for the reported poor outcome. Indeed, in a large retrospective study from Wuhan, type 2 diabetes was associated with a higher death rate due to COVID-19, though the death rate was lower with better controlled blood glucose (Zhu et al., 2020). This would advocate for aggressive treatment with glucose-lowering drugs such as insulin. Contradicting this deduction, in a new correlative retrospective paper by Yu et al. (2020), the authors identified insulin treatment as a possible trigger of death rate in COVID-19 patients with diabetes (Yu et al., 2020). Thus, which is the culprit for the worth outcome in patients with COVID-19 and diabetes, hyperglycemia or insulin? Maybe both, and there are still other suspects in these multimorbid patients."

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1. Carnivore Diet – Eat until satiety? [16:44]
James says:
After almost a year of strict elimination diets amongst other therapies, I’m trying a beef-only diet to get to the bottom of some chronic health issues. I’m 3 weeks in and all my symptoms are worse than before.

I’m eating to just above my *estimated* energy expenditure (by ~400kcal), but I’ve been advised (https://www.kevinstock.io/health/fat-loss-and-the-carnivore-diet/) to eat until satiety and that my appetite will eventually regulate. Until then – as someone who’s been doing keto for 2 years, suffering with autoimmune stuff, tracking my macros and workout out consistently (as opposed to being overweight & coming from SAD) – I can expect to gain some body fat.

I struggle with ever feeling satiated after a meal. I can eat over 2lbs of meat in a meal – or even until I’m physically sick – and still be hungry. I’d love to be able to eat intuitively and until satisfied, which is why I’d consider taking the advice, yet as someone who struggled with anorexia, know it will be incredibly difficult for me.

Q. Do you think this is the way to go, or would it be better to gradually increase calories, “reverse dieting” style? If the former, how do you imagine it's working? If the later, how do you know when to stop increasing calories and on average how long should it take?

I imagine the major benefits from carnivore diets come from elimination of sensitive foods & subsequent gut relief & healing. I’m sure this helps the satiety, but if eating until satiety is simply revving up the metabolism maybe it’d be better to do so with reverse dieting, to minimise the damage.

I’d just be afraid if I didn’t follow the advice and did it in a more measured way I’d still be continuously hungry after. I’d be willing to gain body fat temporarily if it helped resolve this.

Thanks for your help Robb & Nicki – loving the podcast :D

2. Weight Loss Plateau [26:29]
Ashley says:
Hi Robb and Nicki!

A huge thank you for all your research, knowledge and opinions (especially when salty :) that you share with the world. I am currently studying natural nutrition and every time I read something in my books that sounds outdated I literally go through all your episodes to hear if you have any insights, and almost always, you do!

My question today is about weight loss plateau on Keto. I am 35 years old, mom to 4 (ages 6,4,2 and 12 months). Since about the age of 7 I was a vegetarian because I didn't like the idea of eating animals and even vegan for a few of my early adult years. Wait, you'll start liking me in a minute :) My entire diet pretty much consisted of simple carbs and low fat dairy at times. (insert Woman hitting herself in the face emoji here