Wider Roots

“It takes enormous courage and enormous compassion to face reality. To say ‘I want my little contribution to make a difference. Maybe only in the lives of my colleagues, family, and community, but that's enough actually.’”

Today's episode is with author and systems thinker, Margaret Wheatley. For over four decades, she's been helping leaders show up fully in these chaotic times and find meaningful ways to serve. She’s the author of ...

“My invitation is just to let ourselves feel the pain. That we don't have to have the shame on top of it. It’s painful to know that I have contributed to the harm of another person and that I had no idea. I don't have to hold shame about it. I can grieve that.”

Check out the episode page for the transcript and the full list of the resources mentioned in this episode: https://widerroots.com/9 

In this conversation, Andréa Ranae a...

“There's no such thing as personal change outside of a social context. You actually can't separate a person from our social context. And that is just like, well, duh, how did they ever think we could do that?”

Check out the episode page for the transcript and the full list of the resources mentioned in this episode: https://widerroots.com/8 

In this conversation with Staci Haines, we dive into the intersection of personal transf...

“Uncertainty inherently means that possibility exists. Possibility for all sorts of things. For the darkest fantasies and fears that I have and for the most beautiful. And my life is a vote in the direction of a possibility, and I'm going to give myself to the one I want.”

Check out the episode page for the transcript and the full list of the resources mentioned in this episode: https://widerroots.com/7 

In this conversation wit...

“My starting point is less about agitating for change and more about empowering people to believe that they can be actors in their own lives. We fundamentally believe that everyone has a stake in climate change, that everyone can make, can affect change around it.”

Check out the episode page for the transcript and a full list of the resources mentioned in this episode: https://widerroots.com/6 

Today's episode features Charl...

“Can we actually lead with fierceness and the vulnerability of saying, I'm not here because I hate you. I'm actually here because I love you. I'm here because I love the sanctity of life and beauty, and those things are being destroyed all over our ecosystem.”

Check out the episode page for the transcript and a full list of the resources mentioned in this episode: https://widerroots.com/5

Today’s episode is with Kazu Haga, a nonviole...

“Healing doesn't look like getting back to the way things were before, the way things were before made you sick.”

Noëlle Janka is a politicized career and healing coach dedicated to supporting social change leaders. For the past decade, she has brought together her personal experience navigating chronic illness with her passion for social justice and transforming systems of oppression. Noëlle recently published her book, Rebel Heali...

“I think if people don't change by shame or blame or forcing them into things, I think they change because they have a vision of the world they want.”

In this episode, I get to talk with Dara Silverman, a white queer Jewish consultant, somatic coach, and trainer with over 20 years with organizations and movements for social, racial, economic, and gender justice. Dara was the founding director of Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ),...

“So how can we create such rich belonging, that there's room to challenge each other without fearing that we're going to be kicked out of the group?”

In this episode, we’ll be exploring that question and many other questions about justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion (JEDI) with Mazin Jamal, co-founder of Holistic Underground. We dive into how we stay grounded as facilitators when we’re supporting groups to look at race, privil...

Welcome to the podcast! This episode is going to be different than our usual format because I wanted to take some time to lay the foundation for the questions we’ll be exploring on this show. Questions like “How can our movement spaces actively create more opportunities for deep, internal transformation while we work for external change?”

I invited my dear friend Jess Serrante (a long-time coach for climate leaders) to help shed som...

In order to navigate the breakdowns we’re in, we need coaches and leaders who can help us bring out the best qualities of humanity and tap into our deepest longings for the future.

This podcast is my attempt to do “research in public” and explore the questions that have been in my heart for over a decade:

• How can coaching skills and practices support changemakers and social movements working for systemic change?
• How can social, po...